Bad Aviation Films

[Dan Marotta]

Since we've had favorites, how about bad ones?

Someone mentioned Top Gun.Â* I thought that was horrible.Â* Yeah, there
was eye candy for both of the only two real genders, and there were a
bunch of great shots of aircraft, but the story line was total crap.

So for one of my favorite bad aviation films, I nominate:Â* Jet Pilot
with John Wayne, Janet Leigh, and believe it or not, Mamie Van Doren.

Dan, 5J

[Scott Williams[_2_]]

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 10:37:01 AM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Since we've had favorites, how about bad ones?
>
> Someone mentioned Top Gun.Â* I thought that was horrible.Â* Yeah, there
> was eye candy for both of the only two real genders, and there were a
> bunch of great shots of aircraft, but the story line was total crap.
>
> So for one of my favorite bad aviation films, I nominate:Â* Jet Pilot
> with John Wayne, Janet Leigh, and believe it or not, Mamie Van Doren.
>
> Dan, 5J

Chuck Yeager reported in his bio that he flew some of the stunts in 'Jet Pilot'
He seemed disgruntled that he flew for his military pay only. No Hollywood paycheck.
The Airforce supported the production I understand.

Back on track, how about 1940's Goofey's glider cartoon.

[Dan Marotta]

Nope, that one has to go with the greatest of aviation films.Â* Lots of
really good information and the catapult launch reminded me of an
incident at Moriarty a few years back...

On 4/19/2020 10:15 AM, Scott Williams wrote:
> On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 10:37:01 AM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> Since we've had favorites, how about bad ones?
>>
>> Someone mentioned Top Gun.Â* I thought that was horrible.Â* Yeah, there
>> was eye candy for both of the only two real genders, and there were a
>> bunch of great shots of aircraft, but the story line was total crap.
>>
>> So for one of my favorite bad aviation films, I nominate:Â* Jet Pilot
>> with John Wayne, Janet Leigh, and believe it or not, Mamie Van Doren.
>>
>> Dan, 5J
> Chuck Yeager reported in his bio that he flew some of the stunts in 'Jet Pilot'
> He seemed disgruntled that he flew for his military pay only. No Hollywood paycheck.
> The Airforce supported the production I understand.
>
> Back on track, how about 1940's Goofey's glider cartoon.

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Dan, 5J

[Tim Newport-Peace[_6_]]

At 16:15 19 April 2020, Scott Williams wrote:

>
>Back on track, how about 1940's Goofey's glider cartoon.
>
Or before that Laurance Wright's 1938 cartoon:

www.newportpeace.co.uk/temp/Cloudcuckoo.mpg

Laurance was a member at Dunstable pre-war.

[Paul Agnew]

Not an aviation film per se, but Cliffhanger has one of the longest and silliest airplane crash sequences. It goes on and on, and when it finally stops with wings and engines a mile behind them the villianess reaches up to turn off the power to the overhead panel. Silly, but it looked good on camera.

We had a couple of old, nearly worthless, straight-pipe Lockheed JetStars and were contacted about possibly flying the aerial sequences and then using the fuselage for the crash sequence. The owner must have wanted too much to scrap the JetStar and the deal was never done.


Paul A.

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My vote goes to "Les Chevaliers du Ciel" ("Sky Fighters" in the English version), a 2005 film by Gérard Pirès. Very good airplane scenes, filmed by the French Air Force without special effects (they put a special camera container under a Mirage 2000 for the filming), but a really crappy story.

The picture was based on a comics series, "Tanguy et Laverdure", more or less the French equivalent of "Steve Canyon". But for reasons unknown, the principal characters were changed, and their replacements were very dull, the actors below average. "Tanguy et Laverdure" without Tanguy nor Laverdure....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_Fighters

[Paul Agnew]

Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow - Zero stars...

Paul A.

[Nick Kennedy[_3_]]

Dan
You may not care for Top Gun but the public sure liked it.
It was nominated for a ton of awards.
The Navy was overwhelmed with recruits after this film came out.
Sure the storyline is quirky, buts its Hollywood right?
It was made for 15 mil and gross receipts were north of 356+ mil.
Producers Jerry Bruckheimer and Don Simpson both own homes here in Telluride and I've become friends with both.
Those 2, as a team, had several blockbuster hits and are quite generous individuals. Don's taken me heliskiing several times, along with many others.
There both very cool down to earth gents.
Nick
T

[Dan Marotta]

All good points, Nick, but that still doesn't make it a "good" movie.Â*
Since this is all opinion, I gave mine.Â* And that's why I started the
"Bad Aviation Films" thread.

And I get really annoyed when the promo says "Starring somebody" or
"Directed by somebody else".Â* Just because they did something really
great before does not mean the next one will be, too.

Having been a military pilot and had the training "shoved up my ass a
nickle at a time", I just prefer more realistic movies.Â* And, like my
Dad used to say, "Just because Bubba jumped off a bridge doesn't mean
you have to".

Dan M.Â* Still enjoying the banter.

On 4/19/2020 1:33 PM, Nick Kennedy wrote:
> Dan
> You may not care for Top Gun but the public sure liked it.
> It was nominated for a ton of awards.
> The Navy was overwhelmed with recruits after this film came out.
> Sure the storyline is quirky, buts its Hollywood right?
> It was made for 15 mil and gross receipts were north of 356+ mil.
> Producers Jerry Bruckheimer and Don Simpson both own homes here in Telluride and I've become friends with both.
> Those 2, as a team, had several blockbuster hits and are quite generous individuals. Don's taken me heliskiing several times, along with many others.
> There both very cool down to earth gents.
> Nick
> T
>

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I thought the Sky Captain film was pretty neat, though not aeronautically credible.

[Bob Youngblood]

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 11:37:01 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Since we've had favorites, how about bad ones?
>
> Someone mentioned Top Gun.Â* I thought that was horrible.Â* Yeah, there
> was eye candy for both of the only two real genders, and there were a
> bunch of great shots of aircraft, but the story line was total crap.
>
> So for one of my favorite bad aviation films, I nominate:Â* Jet Pilot
> with John Wayne, Janet Leigh, and believe it or not, Mamie Van Doren.
>
> Dan, 5J

Do any of these films include Jane Fonda, they should. Bob

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I remember a John Wayne movie in which a fight develops between the Captain and CoPilot in flight. The FAA used to use it as an example of 'failure of Crew Resource Management'.

[Paul Agnew]

Classic - The High and the Mighty - John Wayne and Robert Stack.

https://youtu.be/ds76VOSkm5g

[Martin Gregorie[_6_]]

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 15:20:29 -0700, Paul Agnew wrote:

> Classic - The High and the Mighty - John Wayne and Robert Stack.
>
> https://youtu.be/ds76VOSkm5g

That is an excellent book. Read it again recently - still good.


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[Martin Gregorie[_6_]]

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 22:30:30 +0000, Martin Gregorie wrote:

Off on a slight tangent one flying book at really like to see filmed is
Ken Deighton's "Bomber". Its a rivetting read and made a *great* radio
play a few years back. The book tells the fictional story of a WW2 raid
on Germany that went wrong, starting on the morning before the raid and
ending as the bombers landed, with a final follow-up of what happened to
the main surviving characters after the War. The raid is covered from
both sides throughout .

Radio 4 broadcast it as several segments, each section broadcast at about
the time of day when it would have happened.

On this side of the pond "Bomber" is regarded as one of the best WW2
flying books to be written.

I'd certainly put it alongside "Winged Victory" by VW Yeates - thats one
of the few WW1 flying novels that RAF aircrew would read, probably
because Yeates was a Camel pilot on the Western Front, so had lived what
he wrote about. However, you guys might prefer "Goodbye Mickey Mouse" to
"Bomber", of only because its a story about a bomber escort squadron
flying P-51s. I bet it would film well, too.


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Everything from Deighton is outstanding

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I enjoyed the book "Goodbye, Mickey Mouse". Filming it sounds expensive.

I've been re-reading Ernest K. Gann recently. Great stuff.

Chip Bearden
JB

[John DeRosa OHM Ω http://aviation.derosaweb.net]

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 10:37:01 AM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Since we've had favorites, how about bad ones?
>
> Someone mentioned Top Gun.Â* I thought that was horrible.Â* Yeah, there
> was eye candy for both of the only two real genders, and there were a
> bunch of great shots of aircraft, but the story line was total crap.
>
>
> Dan, 5J

Top Gun - The opening sequence on the carrier is great. After that it gets silly like when Maverick goes inverted with the MIG separated by, what, 2 feet? Maybe the rudders happen to mesh REALLY well.

Technically the part that seems false is during the combat at Miramar where the swing wings on the F-14's keep going in and out and back in again in rapid succession one shot after another. Is that possible.

[Jonathan St. Cloud]

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 8:37:01 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Since we've had favorites, how about bad ones?
>
> Someone mentioned Top Gun.Â* I thought that was horrible.Â* Yeah, there
> was eye candy for both of the only two real genders, and there were a
> bunch of great shots of aircraft, but the story line was total crap.
>
> So for one of my favorite bad aviation films, I nominate:Â* Jet Pilot
> with John Wayne, Janet Leigh, and believe it or not, Mamie Van Doren.
>
> Dan, 5J

Pearl Harbor. Just terrible movie. Believe it or not even a terrible plot!

[Dan Marotta]

I believe the F-14's wings position automatically for the flight
conditions.Â* I have no idea how quickly that happens.

On 4/19/2020 6:13 PM, John DeRosa OHM Ω http://aviation.derosaweb.net wrote:
> On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 10:37:01 AM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> Since we've had favorites, how about bad ones?
>>
>> Someone mentioned Top Gun.Â* I thought that was horrible.Â* Yeah, there
>> was eye candy for both of the only two real genders, and there were a
>> bunch of great shots of aircraft, but the story line was total crap.
>>
>>
>> Dan, 5J
> Top Gun - The opening sequence on the carrier is great. After that it gets silly like when Maverick goes inverted with the MIG separated by, what, 2 feet? Maybe the rudders happen to mesh REALLY well.
>
> Technically the part that seems false is during the combat at Miramar where the swing wings on the F-14's keep going in and out and back in again in rapid succession one shot after another. Is that possible.

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[Steve Leonard[_2_]]

So, in which thread does "Airplane!" belong? :-)

Steve Leonard
Do you like Gladiator movies?

[Stephen Szikora]

All new aviation movies are bad because they have moved away from filming real aircraft to computer generated crap.

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> So, in which thread does "Airplane!" belong? :-)

Both, of course! Note that the categories are "Favorite" and "Bad." Not "Good" and "Bad."

[Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot)]

1982, Clint Eastwood, Firefox.....poor airplanes but very close to he book which I read.

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On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 11:37:01 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Since we've had favorites, how about bad ones?
>
> Someone mentioned Top Gun.Â* I thought that was horrible.Â* Yeah, there
> was eye candy for both of the only two real genders, and there were a
> bunch of great shots of aircraft, but the story line was total crap.
>
> So for one of my favorite bad aviation films, I nominate:Â* Jet Pilot
> with John Wayne, Janet Leigh, and believe it or not, Mamie Van Doren.
>
> Dan, 5J

Family Flight starring Rod Taylor (1972). Their Navion’s prop gets bent during a forced landing in Baja. They bang it straight with a rock. Goes downhill from there.

[Kevin Neave[_2_]]

Pretty sure there was something along the lines of this on TV during the
school holidays (Mid-Late 70s UK)


At 18:53 19 April 2020, wrote:
>My vote goes to "Les Chevaliers du Ciel" ("Sky Fighters" in the English
>ver=
>sion), a 2005 film by G=C3=A9rard Pir=C3=A8s. Very good airplane scenes,
>
>The picture was based on a comics series, "Tanguy et Laverdure", more or
less the French equivalent of "Steve Canyon". But for reasons unknown, the
principal characters were changed, and their replacements were very dull,
the actors below average. "Tanguy et Laverdure" without Tanguy nor
Laverdure..=
>..=20
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_Fighters
>
>

[kinsell]

Con Air with Nicolas Cage had one of the cheesiest crash scenes ever.
They took a junker C-123K transport plane, put it on rails, and slammed
it into the Sands Hotel in Vegas for the grand finale. That was before
the hotel was imploded in real life.

They actually used three different planes in the filming, one was
outfitted with a diesel engine from a bus along with its automatic
transmission, driving the nose wheel. It was used to film taxiing
scenes , now open to visitors at the Wendover UT airport, which was a
monster air base used for training nuclear bomber crews in WW II.

A third plane was privately owned, airworthy, which crashed in Denali
National Park after the filming. With Hollywood magic, it looked huge
on the inside, with two decks, and cells for prisoner transport.

-Dave

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> Family Flight starring Rod Taylor (1972). Their Navion’s prop gets bent during a forced landing in Baja. They bang it straight with a rock. Goes downhill from there.

This plot was recycled into a 6 Million Dollar Man episode called "Pilot Error". Equally bad. Steve Auston unbends the prop with his bionic arm.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0702072/

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> Family Flight starring Rod Taylor (1972). Their Navion’s prop gets bent during a forced landing in Baja. They bang it straight with a rock. Goes downhill from there.

That plot and footage were recycled into a 6 Million Dollar Man episode called "Pilot Error". It was no better than the original. Only in this episode, Steve Austin unbent the propeller with his bionic arm. Then, once airborne, he sent Morse code to the ground controllers via the ident button on the transponder.

[kinsell]

Like fine wine, it's a movie that improves with time.

https://www.indiewire.com/2013/06/jerry-bruckheimer-and-the-con-air-effect-127727/



On 4/22/20 8:44 AM, kinsell wrote:
> Con Air with Nicolas Cage had one of the cheesiest crash scenes ever.
> They took a junker C-123K transport plane, put it on rails, and slammed
> it into the Sands Hotel in Vegas for the grand finale. That was before
> the hotel was imploded in real life.
>
> They actually used three different planes in the filming, one was
> outfitted with a diesel engine from a bus along with its automatic
> transmission, driving the nose wheel.Â* It was used to film taxiing
> scenes , now open to visitors at the Wendover UT airport, which was a
> monster air base used for training nuclear bomber crews in WW II.
>
> A third plane was privately owned, airworthy, which crashed in Denali
> National Park after the filming.Â* With Hollywood magic, it looked huge
> on the inside, with two decks, and cells for prisoner transport.
>
> -Dave

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> Family Flight starring Rod Taylor (1972). Their Navion’s prop gets bent during a forced landing in Baja. They bang it straight with a rock. Goes downhill from there.

Actually there is some pretty fine air-air footage of the Navion and 2 Navy F-4 Phantoms. Also the footage of the Navion ditching in the drink is pretty good too. Beyond that, it is crap.

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Yes, there were two TV series (one in the sixties, one in the eighties, if memory serves) based on the original comics. One of the sixties' episodes is famous because they filmed the "touch-roll-touch" of a F-104G Starfighter of the Belgian Air Force: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyBDEG9dg-Q

Unfortunately, Sus Jacobs, one of the two Belgian pilots who performed these stunts on a semi-regular basis (the other was "Bill" Ongena) was killed in a subsequent demonstration...


Le mercredi 22 avril 2020 09:30:05 UTC+2, Kevin Neave a écritÂ*:
> Pretty sure there was something along the lines of this on TV during the
> school holidays (Mid-Late 70s UK)
>
>
> At 18:53 19 April 2020, stephanevdv wrote:
> >My vote goes to "Les Chevaliers du Ciel" ("Sky Fighters" in the English
> >ver=
> >sion), a 2005 film by G=C3=A9rard Pir=C3=A8s. Very good airplane scenes,
> >
> >The picture was based on a comics series, "Tanguy et Laverdure", more or
> less the French equivalent of "Steve Canyon". But for reasons unknown, the
> principal characters were changed, and their replacements were very dull,
> the actors below average. "Tanguy et Laverdure" without Tanguy nor
> Laverdure..=
> >..=20
> >
> >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_Fighters
> >
> >

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Fire Birds. Nicholas Cage does Top Gun with helicopters.

[Tango Eight]

The Starfighters (with MST3000 commentary)

highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5cEpoHLFOk

T8

[John DeRosa OHM Ω http://aviation.derosaweb.net]

I stumbled upon this rather odd movie and I have no idea why YouTube thought I would like it.

It seems to be a cross between the Right Stuff, the genre of Steam Punk and hokey comedy of Airplane! with special effects at about "Thunderbirds" quality - all from the famous (cough, wheeze) British movie making colossus of "ANGLO AMAGAMATED". Catchy name, huh?

The title of this academy award ain't-never-gonna-win epic is "Iron Maiden".. No it has nothing to do with the rock group nor a torture device. You just can't make this stuff up.

But it does have an airplane theme running through it and a few shots of a jet military-like airplane (right after the credits) that looks real but I have no clue what it is. The ship is seen landing at 9:09.

WAIT A MINUTE, the Skipper from "Gilligan's Island" (played by Allan Hale) is in it! Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

Enjoy...maybe...

https://youtu.be/Rf8XQPKgbq4

[Scott Williams[_2_]]

On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 9:40:28 PM UTC-5, John DeRosa OHM Ω http://aviation.derosaweb.net wrote:
> I stumbled upon this rather odd movie and I have no idea why YouTube thought I would like it.
>
> It seems to be a cross between the Right Stuff, the genre of Steam Punk and hokey comedy of Airplane! with special effects at about "Thunderbirds" quality - all from the famous (cough, wheeze) British movie making colossus of "ANGLO AMAGAMATED". Catchy name, huh?
>
> The title of this academy award ain't-never-gonna-win epic is "Iron Maiden". No it has nothing to do with the rock group nor a torture device. You just can't make this stuff up.
>
> But it does have an airplane theme running through it and a few shots of a jet military-like airplane (right after the credits) that looks real but I have no clue what it is. The ship is seen landing at 9:09.
>
> WAIT A MINUTE, the Skipper from "Gilligan's Island" (played by Allan Hale) is in it! Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
>
> Enjoy...maybe...
>
> https://youtu.be/Rf8XQPKgbq4

I think the aircraft is a handley page valiant

[Scott Williams[_2_]]

On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 10:28:52 PM UTC-5, Scott Williams wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 9:40:28 PM UTC-5, John DeRosa OHM Ω http://aviation.derosaweb.net wrote:
> > I stumbled upon this rather odd movie and I have no idea why YouTube thought I would like it.
> >
> > It seems to be a cross between the Right Stuff, the genre of Steam Punk and hokey comedy of Airplane! with special effects at about "Thunderbirds" quality - all from the famous (cough, wheeze) British movie making colossus of "ANGLO AMAGAMATED". Catchy name, huh?
> >
> > The title of this academy award ain't-never-gonna-win epic is "Iron Maiden". No it has nothing to do with the rock group nor a torture device. You just can't make this stuff up.
> >
> > But it does have an airplane theme running through it and a few shots of a jet military-like airplane (right after the credits) that looks real but I have no clue what it is. The ship is seen landing at 9:09.
> >
> > WAIT A MINUTE, the Skipper from "Gilligan's Island" (played by Allan Hale) is in it! Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
> >
> > Enjoy...maybe...
> >
> > https://youtu.be/Rf8XQPKgbq4
>
> I think the aircraft is a handley page valiant
or victor?

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On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 10:40:28 PM UTC-4, John DeRosa OHM Ω http://aviation.derosaweb.net wrote:
> I stumbled upon this rather odd movie and I have no idea why YouTube thought I would like it.
>
> It seems to be a cross between the Right Stuff, the genre of Steam Punk and hokey comedy of Airplane! with special effects at about "Thunderbirds" quality - all from the famous (cough, wheeze) British movie making colossus of "ANGLO AMAGAMATED". Catchy name, huh?
>
> The title of this academy award ain't-never-gonna-win epic is "Iron Maiden". No it has nothing to do with the rock group nor a torture device. You just can't make this stuff up.
>
> But it does have an airplane theme running through it and a few shots of a jet military-like airplane (right after the credits) that looks real but I have no clue what it is. The ship is seen landing at 9:09.
>
> WAIT A MINUTE, the Skipper from "Gilligan's Island" (played by Allan Hale) is in it! Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
>
> Enjoy...maybe...
>
> https://youtu.be/Rf8XQPKgbq4

[Ventus_a]

;1018522']On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 9:40:28 PM UTC-5, John DeRosa OHM Ω http://aviation.derosaweb.net wrote:
I stumbled upon this rather odd movie and I have no idea why YouTube thought I would like it.

It seems to be a cross between the Right Stuff, the genre of Steam Punk and hokey comedy of Airplane! with special effects at about "Thunderbirds" quality - all from the famous (cough, wheeze) British movie making colossus of "ANGLO AMAGAMATED". Catchy name, huh?

The title of this academy award ain't-never-gonna-win epic is "Iron Maiden". No it has nothing to do with the rock group nor a torture device. You just can't make this stuff up.

But it does have an airplane theme running through it and a few shots of a jet military-like airplane (right after the credits) that looks real but I have no clue what it is. The ship is seen landing at 9:09.

WAIT A MINUTE, the Skipper from "Gilligan's Island" (played by Allan Hale) is in it! Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

Enjoy...maybe...

https://youtu.be/Rf8XQPKgbq4

I think the aircraft is a handley page valiant


Handley Page Victor. The T tail is the giveaway

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handley_Page_Victor

[Dan Marotta]

I started this tread and forgot to mention one of the all-time greats in
bad aviation films:Â* "Iron Eagle".Â* After "An Officer and a Gentleman",
Louis Gossett, Jr. must have fallen on really bad times to take that role...

On 4/28/2020 10:45 PM, wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 10:40:28 PM UTC-4, John DeRosa OHM Ω http://aviation.derosaweb.net wrote:
>> I stumbled upon this rather odd movie and I have no idea why YouTube thought I would like it.
>>
>> It seems to be a cross between the Right Stuff, the genre of Steam Punk and hokey comedy of Airplane! with special effects at about "Thunderbirds" quality - all from the famous (cough, wheeze) British movie making colossus of "ANGLO AMAGAMATED". Catchy name, huh?
>>
>> The title of this academy award ain't-never-gonna-win epic is "Iron Maiden". No it has nothing to do with the rock group nor a torture device. You just can't make this stuff up.
>>
>> But it does have an airplane theme running through it and a few shots of a jet military-like airplane (right after the credits) that looks real but I have no clue what it is. The ship is seen landing at 9:09.
>>
>> WAIT A MINUTE, the Skipper from "Gilligan's Island" (played by Allan Hale) is in it! Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
>>
>> Enjoy...maybe...
>>
>> https://youtu.be/Rf8XQPKgbq4

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On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 1:37:01 AM UTC+10, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Since we've had favorites, how about bad ones?
>
> Someone mentioned Top Gun.Â* I thought that was horrible.Â* Yeah, there
> was eye candy for both of the only two real genders, and there were a
> bunch of great shots of aircraft, but the story line was total crap.
>
> So for one of my favorite bad aviation films, I nominate:Â* Jet Pilot
> with John Wayne, Janet Leigh, and believe it or not, Mamie Van Doren.
>
> Dan, 5J

Top Gun was a favourite film to show if there was a rainy day at an aerobatic competition in Australia. Many of us pilots knew the dialogue by heart and would chime in on the lines. The favourite line was "He's in a flat spin and heading out to sea!" We all know that when you are in a flat spin, there's only one way you are heading - and that's DOWN!
John

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The favourite line was "He's in a flat spin and heading out to sea!" We all know that when you are in a flat spin, there's only one way you are heading - and that's DOWN!

I think the Director was thinking of all those Frisbees he heaved into the surf as a teenage beach bum. Thought it would make a good movie scene, but substitute an F-14. In Hollywood, anything is possible.

[Martin Gregorie[_6_]]

On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 16:36:01 -0700, markmocho53 wrote:

> The favourite line was "He's in a flat spin and heading out to sea!" We
> all know that when you are in a flat spin, there's only one way you are
> heading - and that's DOWN!
>
> I think the Director was thinking of all those Frisbees he heaved into
> the surf as a teenage beach bum. Thought it would make a good movie
> scene, but substitute an F-14. In Hollywood, anything is possible.

I'm a little surprised that "Hot Shots" and the "Airplane" series haven't
been mentioned, or don't spoofs count?

BTW, I thought "The Right Stuff" (the movie - the book is great) was
pretty much a spoof too - especially the scene where Ole Chuck, on a
horse, ambles round the X-1, which is sitting in the desert with nobody
else around, with flames coming out its rear end. Such a likely scene.


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