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Wouter Wessels
April 7th 05, 04:18 PM
Hi,
For years I have been frustrated that there was no way to read the
Volkslogger GPS logger with my Mac ...
So, being a Mac programmer, I wrote the software myself.
http://www.GeoPS.nl
It is now in Public Beta, so everybody can download it for free and try
it.
In the next couple of weeks it will be released ... for free:
No trial version
No fee
No Nothin'
Well ... maybe I will make a "Donate lotsa money because I like the
program so much" button on the site ;-)
I hope many people will use it, make great flights with their
Volkslogger and download the flights on their Mac ;-)
Cheers,
Wouter Wessels
--
bumper
April 7th 05, 05:04 PM
Wouter,
I don't use a MAC . . . or a Volkslogger, but I think what you have done is
just great! So in case nobody else says thanks - - THANKS!
bumper
"Wouter Wessels" > wrote in message
...
> Hi,
>
> For years I have been frustrated that there was no way to read the
> Volkslogger GPS logger with my Mac ...
>
> So, being a Mac programmer, I wrote the software myself.
>
> http://www.GeoPS.nl
>
> It is now in Public Beta, so everybody can download it for free and try
> it.
> In the next couple of weeks it will be released ... for free:
> No trial version
> No fee
> No Nothin'
> Well ... maybe I will make a "Donate lotsa money because I like the
> program so much" button on the site ;-)
>
> I hope many people will use it, make great flights with their
> Volkslogger and download the flights on their Mac ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Wouter Wessels
>
>
> --
>
Wouter Wessels
April 7th 05, 07:17 PM
Hi Bumper,
Thanks for saying THANKS!
Although you might be the only one responding in the news group, since I
posted there have been some hits on the website. Two people even
downloaded the application ...
While until now I had an average of 4 hits per day, there have been over
10 hits since I posted my message 3 hours ago! Which is great!
So ... plenty of response ... don't worry ;-)
Thanks for your your attention,
Wouter
In article >, "bumper" >
wrote:
> Wouter,
>
> I don't use a MAC . . . or a Volkslogger, but I think what you have done is
> just great! So in case nobody else says thanks - - THANKS!
>
> bumper
> "Wouter Wessels" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi,
> >
> > For years I have been frustrated that there was no way to read the
> > Volkslogger GPS logger with my Mac ...
> >
> > So, being a Mac programmer, I wrote the software myself.
> >
> > http://www.GeoPS.nl
> >
> > It is now in Public Beta, so everybody can download it for free and try
> > it.
> > In the next couple of weeks it will be released ... for free:
> > No trial version
> > No fee
> > No Nothin'
> > Well ... maybe I will make a "Donate lotsa money because I like the
> > program so much" button on the site ;-)
> >
> > I hope many people will use it, make great flights with their
> > Volkslogger and download the flights on their Mac ;-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Wouter Wessels
> >
> >
> > --
> >
--
Bob Greenblatt
April 7th 05, 07:28 PM
On 4/7/05 11:18 AM, in article
, "Wouter Wessels"
> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For years I have been frustrated that there was no way to read the
> Volkslogger GPS logger with my Mac ...
>
> So, being a Mac programmer, I wrote the software myself.
>
> http://www.GeoPS.nl
>
> It is now in Public Beta, so everybody can download it for free and try
> it.
> In the next couple of weeks it will be released ... for free:
> No trial version
> No fee
> No Nothin'
> Well ... maybe I will make a "Donate lotsa money because I like the
> program so much" button on the site ;-)
>
> I hope many people will use it, make great flights with their
> Volkslogger and download the flights on their Mac ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Wouter Wessels
>
Thanks. I'll try it.
--
Bob
bobgreenblattATmsnDOTcom <--fix this before responding
Shawn
April 8th 05, 01:02 AM
Wouter Wessels wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For years I have been frustrated that there was no way to read the
> Volkslogger GPS logger with my Mac ...
>
> So, being a Mac programmer, I wrote the software myself.
>
> http://www.GeoPS.nl
>
> It is now in Public Beta, so everybody can download it for free and try
> it.
> In the next couple of weeks it will be released ... for free:
> No trial version
> No fee
> No Nothin'
> Well ... maybe I will make a "Donate lotsa money because I like the
> program so much" button on the site ;-)
>
> I hope many people will use it, make great flights with their
> Volkslogger and download the flights on their Mac ;-)
Cool! I'm thinking of getting a Volkslogger, and my fourth Mac. :-)
Thanks,
Shawn
Robert Ehrlich
April 8th 05, 05:45 PM
Wouter Wessels wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For years I have been frustrated that there was no way to read the
> Volkslogger GPS logger with my Mac ...
>
> So, being a Mac programmer, I wrote the software myself.
>
> http://www.GeoPS.nl
>
> It is now in Public Beta, so everybody can download it for free and try
> it.
> In the next couple of weeks it will be released ... for free:
> No trial version
> No fee
> No Nothin'
> Well ... maybe I will make a "Donate lotsa money because I like the
> program so much" button on the site ;-)
>
> I hope many people will use it, make great flights with their
> Volkslogger and download the flights on their Mac ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Wouter Wessels
>
>
This means that you got the information about the downloading protocol
used by the Volkslogger. As a retired programmer, I would like to write
some downloading program for Unix systems, I did that for my Garmin 12,
as Garmin made their protocol public, but I have no info for the
Volkslogger. Where did you get that ?
Wouter Wessels
April 8th 05, 07:32 PM
In article >,
Robert Ehrlich > wrote:
> Wouter Wessels wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > For years I have been frustrated that there was no way to read the
> > Volkslogger GPS logger with my Mac ...
> >
> > So, being a Mac programmer, I wrote the software myself.
> >
> > http://www.GeoPS.nl
> >
> > It is now in Public Beta, so everybody can download it for free and try
> > it.
> > In the next couple of weeks it will be released ... for free:
> > No trial version
> > No fee
> > No Nothin'
> > Well ... maybe I will make a "Donate lotsa money because I like the
> > program so much" button on the site ;-)
> >
> > I hope many people will use it, make great flights with their
> > Volkslogger and download the flights on their Mac ;-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Wouter Wessels
> >
> >
>
> This means that you got the information about the downloading protocol
> used by the Volkslogger. As a retired programmer, I would like to write
> some downloading program for Unix systems, I did that for my Garmin 12,
> as Garmin made their protocol public, but I have no info for the
> Volkslogger. Where did you get that ?
Yeah, you'd wanna know wouldn't you ... ;-)
Before I started the GeoPS project, I did some searching and found a
project: kflog: http://www.kflog.de/
That project is an Open Source project that does contain Volkslogger
support. I found that the basic Volkslogger functions worked for me, but
this Volkslogger code is not very good. I have had some serious trouble
getting it to work on a Mac, but now it does.
I'd suggest you take a look at that kflog project. It looks like a very
solid application that has features that seem very useful, like Maps,
Terrain Elevation and Airspace support.
I even tried to port this app to Mac, because Mac OS X is a Unix too,
but I did not succeed (yet).
Wouter
--
Wouter Wessels
April 8th 05, 07:44 PM
In article >,
Shawn <sdotcurry@bresnananotherdotnet> wrote:
> Wouter Wessels wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > For years I have been frustrated that there was no way to read the
> > Volkslogger GPS logger with my Mac ...
> >
> > So, being a Mac programmer, I wrote the software myself.
> >
> > http://www.GeoPS.nl
> >
> > It is now in Public Beta, so everybody can download it for free and try
> > it.
> > In the next couple of weeks it will be released ... for free:
> > No trial version
> > No fee
> > No Nothin'
> > Well ... maybe I will make a "Donate lotsa money because I like the
> > program so much" button on the site ;-)
> >
> > I hope many people will use it, make great flights with their
> > Volkslogger and download the flights on their Mac ;-)
>
> Cool! I'm thinking of getting a Volkslogger, and my fourth Mac. :-)
Hey, that is good news!
What kinda Mac are you looking for? Desktop or Laptop?
Both my Macs are getting of age, so I am saving money to get the first
G5 Powerbook I see ;-) probably somewhere in 2006 ;-(
Keep an eye on http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/ to see which Mac is due
for an update soon ...
Regards,
Wouter
--
Shawn
April 8th 05, 08:55 PM
Wouter Wessels wrote:
> In article >,
> Shawn <sdotcurry@bresnananotherdotnet> wrote:
>
>
>>Wouter Wessels wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>For years I have been frustrated that there was no way to read the
>>>Volkslogger GPS logger with my Mac ...
>>>
>>>So, being a Mac programmer, I wrote the software myself.
>>>
>>>http://www.GeoPS.nl
>>>
>>>It is now in Public Beta, so everybody can download it for free and try
>>>it.
>>>In the next couple of weeks it will be released ... for free:
>>>No trial version
>>>No fee
>>>No Nothin'
>>>Well ... maybe I will make a "Donate lotsa money because I like the
>>>program so much" button on the site ;-)
>>>
>>>I hope many people will use it, make great flights with their
>>>Volkslogger and download the flights on their Mac ;-)
>>
>>Cool! I'm thinking of getting a Volkslogger, and my fourth Mac. :-)
>
>
> Hey, that is good news!
> What kinda Mac are you looking for? Desktop or Laptop?
Probably a new iMac. I lust for a full-on G5 (OK, maybe lust is a
strong word), but my current 400 MHz G3 iMac does most of what I need,
it's just a bit slow. Depending on the next G5 model features though, I
might be swayed...
>
> Both my Macs are getting of age, so I am saving money to get the first
> G5 Powerbook I see ;-) probably somewhere in 2006 ;-(
>
> Keep an eye on http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/ to see which Mac is due
> for an update soon ...
I've seen the current crop of rumors, so I've been waiting.
Shawn
Robert Ehrlich
April 10th 05, 09:52 AM
Wouter Wessels wrote:
> Yeah, you'd wanna know wouldn't you ... ;-)
>
> Before I started the GeoPS project, I did some searching and found a
> project: kflog: http://www.kflog.de/
>
> That project is an Open Source project that does contain Volkslogger
> support. I found that the basic Volkslogger functions worked for me, but
> this Volkslogger code is not very good. I have had some serious trouble
> getting it to work on a Mac, but now it does.
>
> I'd suggest you take a look at that kflog project. It looks like a very
> solid application that has features that seem very useful, like Maps,
> Terrain Elevation and Airspace support.
> I even tried to port this app to Mac, because Mac OS X is a Unix too,
> but I did not succeed (yet).
>
Thanks for this answer. I was aware of kflog, but never used it since
up to a recent date I didn't have a sufficient recent computer for
running KDE. Anyway my ambition is much lower than a software like
kflog. I want just to have a program downloading the logger to an
IGC file, without graphical interface (much to complicate to program
for me) and possibly verifying that the turnpoints were correctly
rounded and computing the average speed per leg and general if
there is a declared task. This is what I did for my Garmin 12 using
the current route as a declared task.
Wouter Wessels
April 10th 05, 05:50 PM
In article >,
Robert Ehrlich > wrote:
> Wouter Wessels wrote:
> > Yeah, you'd wanna know wouldn't you ... ;-)
> >
> > Before I started the GeoPS project, I did some searching and found a
> > project: kflog: http://www.kflog.de/
> >
> > That project is an Open Source project that does contain Volkslogger
> > support. I found that the basic Volkslogger functions worked for me, but
> > this Volkslogger code is not very good. I have had some serious trouble
> > getting it to work on a Mac, but now it does.
> >
> > I'd suggest you take a look at that kflog project. It looks like a very
> > solid application that has features that seem very useful, like Maps,
> > Terrain Elevation and Airspace support.
> > I even tried to port this app to Mac, because Mac OS X is a Unix too,
> > but I did not succeed (yet).
> >
>
> Thanks for this answer. I was aware of kflog, but never used it since
> up to a recent date I didn't have a sufficient recent computer for
> running KDE. Anyway my ambition is much lower than a software like
> kflog. I want just to have a program downloading the logger to an
> IGC file, without graphical interface (much to complicate to program
> for me) and possibly verifying that the turnpoints were correctly
> rounded and computing the average speed per leg and general if
> there is a declared task. This is what I did for my Garmin 12 using
> the current route as a declared task.
What I meant to say is that that project contains code that talks to the
Volkslogger.
Wouter
--
fw.unt
April 11th 05, 07:20 AM
Hi
I also own Macs. I tryed the kflog and remastered a KNOPPIX for KFLOG
use.
I also tryed to compile the kflog on OS X 10.3.8 with fink. The only
problem I have is to update the configs for libtool 1.5x. It is
written for an old 1.3 version and OS X claims to have problems with
older version than 1.5.
Maybe you have an idea how to do that?
I have all object files compiled - it only needs to link.
The KFLOG is a 'poor-mans-STREPLA or SEEYOU' and really great. It also
has the cumulus for Linux on the IPAQ.
Cheers FW.
Wouter Wessels > wrote in message news:<wwesselsspam-
>...
> Yeah, you'd wanna know wouldn't you ... ;-)
>
> Before I started the GeoPS project, I did some searching and found a
> project: kflog: http://www.kflog.de/
>
> That project is an Open Source project that does contain Volkslogger
> support. I found that the basic Volkslogger functions worked for me, but
> this Volkslogger code is not very good. I have had some serious trouble
> getting it to work on a Mac, but now it does.
>
> I'd suggest you take a look at that kflog project. It looks like a very
> solid application that has features that seem very useful, like Maps,
> Terrain Elevation and Airspace support.
> I even tried to port this app to Mac, because Mac OS X is a Unix too,
> but I did not succeed (yet).
>
> Wouter
Wouter Wessels
April 13th 05, 10:01 PM
In article >,
(fw.unt) wrote:
> Hi
Hi FW!
> I also own Macs. I tryed the kflog and remastered a KNOPPIX for KFLOG
> use.
> I also tryed to compile the kflog on OS X 10.3.8 with fink. The only
> problem I have is to update the configs for libtool 1.5x. It is
> written for an old 1.3 version and OS X claims to have problems with
> older version than 1.5.
> Maybe you have an idea how to do that?
> I have all object files compiled - it only needs to link.
No, but I now somebody who tried it and got as far as compiling it,
using Fink and he even could run it, but when he tried to connect to a
logger kflog did not recognize the shared objects that the logger
implementations were in ...
Please mail me if you want me to get you in touch with him ... (please
do not analyse that sentence!)
He asked me for help too but I told him that I tried too ... and failed
long before I reached where he (or you) have gotten.
> The KFLOG is a 'poor-mans-STREPLA or SEEYOU' and really great. It also
> has the cumulus for Linux on the IPAQ.
From the screen shots on the kflog page, I think it looks good.
But as you are the 3rd person that cannot get it to run on Mac, I guess
it must be a bit awkward ... to say the least. So I am not sad I did not
continue. Maybe I will try again ... but if I see how many libraries you
have to download before it starts to even configure the make environment
.... I get cold shivers down my spine :-(
By the way ... I do not like SeeYou.
It does 'most of the things that yyou want', but does em poorly ... but
then again ... it runs on Windows, so actually it fits right in ;-)
Cheers,
Wouter
>
> Cheers FW.
>
> Wouter Wessels > wrote in message news:<wwesselsspam-
> >...
> > Yeah, you'd wanna know wouldn't you ... ;-)
> >
> > Before I started the GeoPS project, I did some searching and found a
> > project: kflog: http://www.kflog.de/
> >
> > That project is an Open Source project that does contain Volkslogger
> > support. I found that the basic Volkslogger functions worked for me, but
> > this Volkslogger code is not very good. I have had some serious trouble
> > getting it to work on a Mac, but now it does.
> >
> > I'd suggest you take a look at that kflog project. It looks like a very
> > solid application that has features that seem very useful, like Maps,
> > Terrain Elevation and Airspace support.
> > I even tried to port this app to Mac, because Mac OS X is a Unix too,
> > but I did not succeed (yet).
> >
> > Wouter
--
fw.unt
April 14th 05, 07:34 AM
Hi Wouter
>
> No, but I now somebody who tried it and got as far as compiling it,
> using Fink and he even could run it, but when he tried to connect to a
> logger kflog did not recognize the shared objects that the logger
> implementations were in ...
> Please mail me if you want me to get you in touch with him ... (please
> do not analyse that sentence!)
>
I would apriciate it to get the binary or connection to the guy. I
don't use it for transfer only for analysing. No problem for me. Maybe
that is the mentioned problem with libtool. It fit all these kflog
specific objects together. Does he use a serial2usb adpter to connect
to volkslogger? I own one from Aten an it works very good with my
IBook G3/600. I read also about connection problems with other
software.
>
> From the screen shots on the kflog page, I think it looks good.
> But as you are the 3rd person that cannot get it to run on Mac, I guess
> it must be a bit awkward ... to say the least. So I am not sad I did not
> continue. Maybe I will try again ... but if I see how many libraries you
> have to download before it starts to even configure the make environment
> ... I get cold shivers down my spine :-(
With fink it is not that hard to get all these libs - all is
downloadable with the fink comander. Two or three lib were to old and
I compiled them new to fink directory.
> By the way ... I do not like SeeYou.
> It does 'most of the things that yyou want', but does em poorly ... but
> then again ... it runs on Windows, so actually it fits right in ;-)
>
Do you know Flighttrack for the MAC (just ggole). It's from a french
pilot and really cool, but not the same stile like kflog or the
windooz softs.
Cheers FW.
Wouter Wessels
April 14th 05, 10:05 PM
Hi FW,
> Hi Wouter
> >
> > No, but I now somebody who tried it and got as far as compiling it,
> > using Fink and he even could run it, but when he tried to connect to a
> > logger kflog did not recognize the shared objects that the logger
> > implementations were in ...
> > Please mail me if you want me to get you in touch with him ... (please
> > do not analyse that sentence!)
> >
> I would apriciate it to get the binary or connection to the guy. I
> don't use it for transfer only for analysing. No problem for me. Maybe
> that is the mentioned problem with libtool. It fit all these kflog
> specific objects together. Does he use a serial2usb adpter to connect
> to volkslogger? I own one from Aten an it works very good with my
> IBook G3/600. I read also about connection problems with other
> software.
I will mail him your mail address (if the mail address in your posts is
correct) and ask him to contact you ...
> > From the screen shots on the kflog page, I think it looks good.
> > But as you are the 3rd person that cannot get it to run on Mac, I guess
> > it must be a bit awkward ... to say the least. So I am not sad I did not
> > continue. Maybe I will try again ... but if I see how many libraries you
> > have to download before it starts to even configure the make environment
> > ... I get cold shivers down my spine :-(
>
> With fink it is not that hard to get all these libs - all is
> downloadable with the fink comander. Two or three lib were to old and
> I compiled them new to fink directory.
I might try that once, but first I would like to fly a bit after one
winter of programming GeoPS for 20 hours a week ... and having a job ...
and some glider maintenance ...
> > By the way ... I do not like SeeYou.
> > It does 'most of the things that yyou want', but does em poorly ... but
> > then again ... it runs on Windows, so actually it fits right in ;-)
> >
>
> Do you know Flighttrack for the MAC (just ggole). It's from a french
> pilot and really cool, but not the same stile like kflog or the
> windooz softs.
Yes, I know FlightTrack, I do like it too. I have emailed with the
developer. Nice guy.
Every programmer/designer/company has his own style ... which is good
and bad ;-)
Wouter
>
> Cheers FW.
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