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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4bFq5QAt8Y
On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 1:21:51 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4bFq5QAt8Y
set up for mid field landing , last flight of the day
I think that was my 5th or 6th training flight..
Carl
Joel Flamenbaum[_2_]
June 1st 20, 07:15 PM
On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 10:21:51 AM UTC-7, wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4bFq5QAt8Y
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On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 1:21:51 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4bFq5QAt8Y
shoot..ok I'll see what I can do..
On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 1:21:51 PM UTC-4, wrote:
try this one
https://youtu.be/M4bFq5QAt8Y
There, think I fixed it.
Mid field landing
Carl
Stephen Szikora
June 2nd 20, 01:20 AM
Someone tell the pilot to bank more in the circuit. Watch the yaw string. The pilot is using the rudder to turn ... something that can result in an unrecoverable spin.
On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 8:20:03 PM UTC-4, Stephen Szikora wrote:
> Someone tell the pilot to bank more in the circuit. Watch the yaw string. The pilot is using the rudder to turn ... something that can result in an unrecoverable spin.
Thanks Stephen, My CFI made that exact point. I struggled with to much rudder, he would say either "Increase the bank or get off the pedal." it is a challenge to co-ordinate the two at first. I have about 17 flights now but COVID has put a stop to it here for now.
Carl
On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 7:40:16 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 8:20:03 PM UTC-4, Stephen Szikora wrote:
> > Someone tell the pilot to bank more in the circuit. Watch the yaw string. The pilot is using the rudder to turn ... something that can result in an unrecoverable spin.
>
> Thanks Stephen, My CFI made that exact point. I struggled with to much rudder, he would say either "Increase the bank or get off the pedal." it is a challenge to co-ordinate the two at first. I have about 17 flights now but COVID has put a stop to it here for now.
> Carl
> My CFI made that exact point. I struggled with to much rudder, he would say either "Increase the bank or get off the pedal." it is a challenge to co-ordinate the two at first.
The camera mount point makes it interesting to see what you are looking at. You might tilt it down just a bit so you can see the airspeed and control operations as well.
The yaw string was also offset on the roll out on the runway. Guess you were getting your crosswind training early.
Practicing turn coordination near something hard is gutsy. How's the airspeed and turn coordination at altitude?
Thanks for sharing. Hope you get back in the air. One of the schools around here put in a plexiglass shield between the front and back. Seems like a reasonable way forward.
kirk.stant
June 2nd 20, 05:29 PM
On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 6:40:16 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> Thanks Stephen, My CFI made that exact point. I struggled with to much rudder, he would say either "Increase the bank or get off the pedal." it is a challenge to co-ordinate the two at first. I have about 17 flights now but COVID has put a stop to it here for now.
> Carl
Hi Carl,
The 2-32 is a wonderful glider (best Schweizer IMO) but is really unforgiving if you stall in a skid! I'm sure your CFI has covered this, but it's really illuminating to take a high tow and practice stalls with a bit of rudder in - then be ready for spin recovery practice. Best to experience this at altitude, then fly fast, steep patterns down low.
Cheers and fly safe,
Kirk
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My turns and speed at altitude are getting a lot better, but are not consistent enough yet.I have done every
Landing so far with my CFI monitoring.
Need more stick time. Working on sim (x-plane ASK 21)at home. I'm mostly in an ASK 21 for my training
Paul Agnew
June 2nd 20, 09:02 PM
You should try the Condor2 sim if you're using Xplane to practice basic coordination. It's worth the purchase price and, inf used properly, can reinforce what your instructor is teaching better than any other sim software available.
Good luck!
Paul A.
Seems your CFI is letting you practice doing it wrong which in this glider is a very bad idea. By flight 17 you should only be flying precisely coordinated all the time. I’d suggest working on that exclusively (if necessary with another CFI) until you’ve got it down. It will make all your other flying easier and safer
Thanks, my CFI is not letting me do this in the pattern anymore I feel his inputs on the controls if I start to get loose,and his verbal direction.The 2-32..that was a while ago. For some reason I find the ASK easier to fly cordinated. Need more stick time.
Scott Manley[_3_]
June 4th 20, 09:07 PM
Making streamlined (centered yaw string), constant airspeed, constant bank angle turns in a glider is not easy. It requires you understand what to do, when to do it, and why you're doing what you're doing. Then it takes "lots" of practice. Simulation-based filght training provides the time and opportunity needed to accumulate the level of experience required. Condor is the best glider flight simulation available and is easily the best $60 you will ever spend with respect to your glider flight training.
I highly recommend you buy it from Cumulus-Soaring, Inc.
I am available at no cost to help you get started with Condor.
Contact me: smanley at wisc dot edu
On Thursday, June 4, 2020 at 4:07:35 PM UTC-4, Scott Manley wrote:
> Making streamlined (centered yaw string), constant airspeed, constant bank angle turns in a glider is not easy. It requires you understand what to do, when to do it, and why you're doing what you're doing. Then it takes "lots" of practice. Simulation-based filght training provides the time and opportunity needed to accumulate the level of experience required. Condor is the best glider flight simulation available and is easily the best $60 you will ever spend with respect to your glider flight training.
>
> I highly recommend you buy it from Cumulus-Soaring, Inc.
>
> I am available at no cost to help you get started with Condor.
>
> Contact me: smanley at wisc dot edu
alright, Cumulus..is'nt that Paul Remde? I'll do that. thankyou
kinsell
June 4th 20, 09:45 PM
On 6/3/20 10:05 AM, wrote:
> Thanks, my CFI is not letting me do this in the pattern anymore I feel his inputs on the controls if I start to get loose,and his verbal direction.The 2-32..that was a while ago. For some reason I find the ASK easier to fly cordinated. Need more stick time.
>
Wasn't bad for a fifth flight in a glider, but I hope your instructor
has guided you to making stabilized approaches on final. You never got
lined up with the runway, and did a skidding turn at the last second
before touchdown. Did you cut short the pattern on purpose to land at
midfield? Don't compromise safety for convenience.
Yes, he surprised me by asking for an early base leg for a mid field landing.
I turned final before getting properly aligned. He told me to get lined up with centerline immediately to which I replied getting there. I didn't make any abrupt movements and maintained speed. She was heading right where I wanted her to be.
My instructed was quiet as we touched down, then said good job. Then we discussed coordinated turns.
kinsell
June 4th 20, 10:26 PM
On 6/4/20 3:06 PM, wrote:
> Yes, he surprised me by asking for an early base leg for a mid field landing.
> I turned final before getting properly aligned. He told me to get lined up with centerline immediately to which I replied getting there. I didn't make any abrupt movements and maintained speed. She was heading right where I wanted her to be.
> My instructed was quiet as we touched down, then said good job. Then we discussed coordinated turns.
>
A 2-32 can be a cruel mistress, she can turn on you when you least
expect it. Down that low, you shouldn't be doing any turns, coordinated
or otherwise. If you're lined up properly, you're not trying to turn
and flair at the same time.
Anyway, congratulations on making it this far and hopefully we can all
be getting more stick time shortly.
Dav
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