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June 8th 20, 08:48 PM
William C Holbrook passed away peacefully last night at the age of 98. He was a long time family friend, professional pilot and holder of many soaring records. Also a member of the SSA hall of fame.
He and my father, Ed Byars, had a long friendship and contributed much to the art of soaring with their Soaring Symposiums.

Michael Opitz
June 8th 20, 09:03 PM
At 19:48 08 June 2020, wrote:
>William C Holbrook passed away peacefully last night at the age of 98.
He
>was a long time family friend, professional pilot and holder of many
>soaring records. Also a member of the SSA hall of fame.
>He and my father, Ed Byars, had a long friendship and contributed
much to
>the art of soaring with their Soaring Symposiums.
>
>
>

Condolences to his family and friends. He was a nice guy, and did a
lot for U.S. competitive soaring in his day.

RO

Daryl Kabatoff
June 8th 20, 09:26 PM
On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 2:15:04 PM UTC-6, Michael Opitz wrote:
> At 19:48 08 June 2020, wrote:
> >William C Holbrook passed away peacefully last night at the age of 98.
> He
> >was a long time family friend, professional pilot and holder of many
> >soaring records. Also a member of the SSA hall of fame.
> >He and my father, Ed Byars, had a long friendship and contributed
> much to
> >the art of soaring with their Soaring Symposiums.
> >
> >
> >
> Condolences to his family and friends. He was a nice guy, and did a
> lot for U.S. competitive soaring in his day.
>
> RO

How will you honor him? Will you give him an Egyptian obelisk (a representation of a penis) for a tombstone? Will you turn evergreen tree branches into a wreath and bow down and place this symbol of fertility at the base of his Egyptian penis (another symbol of fertility)?!!! You honor the dead American soldiers with pagan wreaths, why not this aviator?

Jonathan St. Cloud
June 8th 20, 09:49 PM
On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 12:49:00 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> William C Holbrook passed away peacefully last night at the age of 98. He was a long time family friend, professional pilot and holder of many soaring records. Also a member of the SSA hall of fame.
> He and my father, Ed Byars, had a long friendship and contributed much to the art of soaring with their Soaring Symposiums.

A long well lived life. Good finish Mr. Holbrook

John Foster
June 8th 20, 09:51 PM
On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 2:26:16 PM UTC-6, Daryl Kabatoff wrote:
> On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 2:15:04 PM UTC-6, Michael Opitz wrote:
> > At 19:48 08 June 2020, wrote:
> > >William C Holbrook passed away peacefully last night at the age of 98.
> > He
> > >was a long time family friend, professional pilot and holder of many
> > >soaring records. Also a member of the SSA hall of fame.
> > >He and my father, Ed Byars, had a long friendship and contributed
> > much to
> > >the art of soaring with their Soaring Symposiums.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Condolences to his family and friends. He was a nice guy, and did a
> > lot for U.S. competitive soaring in his day.
> >
> > RO
>
> How will you honor him? Will you give him an Egyptian obelisk (a representation of a penis) for a tombstone? Will you turn evergreen tree branches into a wreath and bow down and place this symbol of fertility at the base of his Egyptian penis (another symbol of fertility)?!!! You honor the dead American soldiers with pagan wreaths, why not this aviator?

WOW, Daryl! Have you no sense of decency or appropriateness? Go away.

Jonathan St. Cloud
June 8th 20, 09:56 PM
On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 1:26:16 PM UTC-7, Daryl Kabatoff wrote:
> On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 2:15:04 PM UTC-6, Michael Opitz wrote:
> > At 19:48 08 June 2020, wrote:
> > >William C Holbrook passed away peacefully last night at the age of 98.
> > He
> > >was a long time family friend, professional pilot and holder of many
> > >soaring records. Also a member of the SSA hall of fame.
> > >He and my father, Ed Byars, had a long friendship and contributed
> > much to
> > >the art of soaring with their Soaring Symposiums.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Condolences to his family and friends. He was a nice guy, and did a
> > lot for U.S. competitive soaring in his day.
> >
> > RO
>
> How will you honor him? Will you give him an Egyptian obelisk (a representation of a penis) for a tombstone? Will you turn evergreen tree branches into a wreath and bow down and place this symbol of fertility at the base of his Egyptian penis (another symbol of fertility)?!!! You honor the dead American soldiers with pagan wreaths, why not this aviator?

Is there any particular reason you have decided to embarrass yourself by insulting Mr. Holbrock and his family? Or are you feral and just don't know any better?

Daryl Kabatoff
June 8th 20, 10:12 PM
On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 2:56:21 PM UTC-6, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
> On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 1:26:16 PM UTC-7, Daryl Kabatoff wrote:
> > On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 2:15:04 PM UTC-6, Michael Opitz wrote:
> > > At 19:48 08 June 2020, wrote:
> > > >William C Holbrook passed away peacefully last night at the age of 98.
> > > He
> > > >was a long time family friend, professional pilot and holder of many
> > > >soaring records. Also a member of the SSA hall of fame.
> > > >He and my father, Ed Byars, had a long friendship and contributed
> > > much to
> > > >the art of soaring with their Soaring Symposiums.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Condolences to his family and friends. He was a nice guy, and did a
> > > lot for U.S. competitive soaring in his day.
> > >
> > > RO
> >
> > How will you honor him? Will you give him an Egyptian obelisk (a representation of a penis) for a tombstone? Will you turn evergreen tree branches into a wreath and bow down and place this symbol of fertility at the base of his Egyptian penis (another symbol of fertility)?!!! You honor the dead American soldiers with pagan wreaths, why not this aviator?
>
> Is there any particular reason you have decided to embarrass yourself by insulting Mr. Holbrock and his family? Or are you feral and just don't know any better?

Mr. Holbrock was a war veteran. Americans honor their war dead by decorating their grave stones with pagan fertility wreaths. It doesn't matter that the soldiers never gave their lives defending Catholic fertility rites, God-damned Catholics use the dead veterans as tools to teach others to abide by pagan fertility rites. Just like how the Catholic parents use images of their own children to teach others to abide by the Catholic fertility rites, they turn their homes into blinkin' temples of fertility and then post photos of their children posing next to the pagan idols on Facebook or other social media. Mr. Holbrock was a member of the Presbyterian Church, the church is a Catholic church as it adopts the Catholic fertility rites. They stick Egyptian penises on the roofs of their filthy churches, they turn trees into blinkin' idols and place these blinkin'idols prominantly next to their pulpits. Americans love their Catholic fertility rites so much, that they elected and re-elected a homosexual Indonesian Islamist to the presidency of the USA when they say him pose with the Catholic fertility tree idols. Different aspects of Mr. Holbrock's winter festival are in direct opposition to God's First Three Commandments, the man was a Catholic who cared little about God's Laws and God's Word.

Craig Funston[_3_]
June 8th 20, 10:16 PM
On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 1:56:21 PM UTC-7, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
> On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 1:26:16 PM UTC-7, Daryl Kabatoff wrote:
> > On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 2:15:04 PM UTC-6, Michael Opitz wrote:
> > > At 19:48 08 June 2020, wrote:
> > > >William C Holbrook passed away peacefully last night at the age of 98.
> > > He
> > > >was a long time family friend, professional pilot and holder of many
> > > >soaring records. Also a member of the SSA hall of fame.
> > > >He and my father, Ed Byars, had a long friendship and contributed
> > > much to
> > > >the art of soaring with their Soaring Symposiums.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Condolences to his family and friends. He was a nice guy, and did a
> > > lot for U.S. competitive soaring in his day.
> > >
> > > RO
> >
> > How will you honor him? Will you give him an Egyptian obelisk (a representation of a penis) for a tombstone? Will you turn evergreen tree branches into a wreath and bow down and place this symbol of fertility at the base of his Egyptian penis (another symbol of fertility)?!!! You honor the dead American soldiers with pagan wreaths, why not this aviator?
>
> Is there any particular reason you have decided to embarrass yourself by insulting Mr. Holbrock and his family? Or are you feral and just don't know any better?

Don't feed the troll

Craig Funston[_3_]
June 8th 20, 10:25 PM
On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 12:49:00 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> William C Holbrook passed away peacefully last night at the age of 98. He was a long time family friend, professional pilot and holder of many soaring records. Also a member of the SSA hall of fame.
> He and my father, Ed Byars, had a long friendship and contributed much to the art of soaring with their Soaring Symposiums.

Condolences and best wishes to Mr. Holbrook's family and friends. I just came across my signed copy of "Soaring Cross Country" and marveled at how the sport has progressed. Ed and Bill were leaders in making that happen. Respects to all.
Craig
JN

Joel Flamenbaum[_2_]
June 8th 20, 10:40 PM
On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 1:26:16 PM UTC-7, Daryl Kabatoff wrote:
> On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 2:15:04 PM UTC-6, Michael Opitz wrote:
> > At 19:48 08 June 2020, wrote:
> > >William C Holbrook passed away peacefully last night at the age of 98.
> > He
> > >was a long time family friend, professional pilot and holder of many
> > >soaring records. Also a member of the SSA hall of fame.
> > >He and my father, Ed Byars, had a long friendship and contributed
> > much to
> > >the art of soaring with their Soaring Symposiums.
> > >
> > >Who will remember you when you depart?? Answer: Nobody

> > >
> > Condolences to his family and friends. He was a nice guy, and did a
> > lot for U.S. competitive soaring in his day.
> >
> > RO
>
> How will you honor him? Will you give him an Egyptian obelisk (a representation of a penis) for a tombstone? Will you turn evergreen tree branches into a wreath and bow down and place this symbol of fertility at the base of his Egyptian penis (another symbol of fertility)?!!! You honor the dead American soldiers with pagan wreaths, why not this aviator?

Joel Flamenbaum[_2_]
June 8th 20, 10:44 PM
On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 12:49:00 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> William C Holbrook passed away peacefully last night at the age of 98. He was a long time family friend, professional pilot and holder of many soaring records. Also a member of the SSA hall of fame.
> He and my father, Ed Byars, had a long friendship and contributed much to the art of soaring with their Soaring Symposiums.

Condolences to the entire Holbrook family - He did a lot to advance the sport of soaring

2G
June 8th 20, 10:51 PM
On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 2:12:26 PM UTC-7, Daryl Kabatoff wrote:
> On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 2:56:21 PM UTC-6, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
> > On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 1:26:16 PM UTC-7, Daryl Kabatoff wrote:
> > > On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 2:15:04 PM UTC-6, Michael Opitz wrote:
> > > > At 19:48 08 June 2020, wrote:
> > > > >William C Holbrook passed away peacefully last night at the age of 98.
> > > > He
> > > > >was a long time family friend, professional pilot and holder of many
> > > > >soaring records. Also a member of the SSA hall of fame.
> > > > >He and my father, Ed Byars, had a long friendship and contributed
> > > > much to
> > > > >the art of soaring with their Soaring Symposiums.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Condolences to his family and friends. He was a nice guy, and did a
> > > > lot for U.S. competitive soaring in his day.
> > > >
> > > > RO
> > >
> > > How will you honor him? Will you give him an Egyptian obelisk (a representation of a penis) for a tombstone? Will you turn evergreen tree branches into a wreath and bow down and place this symbol of fertility at the base of his Egyptian penis (another symbol of fertility)?!!! You honor the dead American soldiers with pagan wreaths, why not this aviator?
> >
> > Is there any particular reason you have decided to embarrass yourself by insulting Mr. Holbrock and his family? Or are you feral and just don't know any better?
>
> Mr. Holbrock was a war veteran. Americans honor their war dead by decorating their grave stones with pagan fertility wreaths. It doesn't matter that the soldiers never gave their lives defending Catholic fertility rites, God-damned Catholics use the dead veterans as tools to teach others to abide by pagan fertility rites. Just like how the Catholic parents use images of their own children to teach others to abide by the Catholic fertility rites, they turn their homes into blinkin' temples of fertility and then post photos of their children posing next to the pagan idols on Facebook or other social media. Mr. Holbrock was a member of the Presbyterian Church, the church is a Catholic church as it adopts the Catholic fertility rites. They stick Egyptian penises on the roofs of their filthy churches, they turn trees into blinkin' idols and place these blinkin'idols prominantly next to their pulpits. Americans love their Catholic fertility rites so much, that they elected and re-elected a homosexual Indonesian Islamist to the presidency of the USA when they say him pose with the Catholic fertility tree idols. Different aspects of Mr. Holbrock's winter festival are in direct opposition to God's First Three Commandments, the man was a Catholic who cared little about God's Laws and God's Word.

Why don't you go crash another funeral?

Daryl Kabatoff
June 9th 20, 01:27 AM
On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 3:16:38 PM UTC-6, Craig Funston wrote:
> On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 1:56:21 PM UTC-7, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
> > On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 1:26:16 PM UTC-7, Daryl Kabatoff wrote:
> > > On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 2:15:04 PM UTC-6, Michael Opitz wrote:
> > > > At 19:48 08 June 2020, wrote:
> > > > >William C Holbrook passed away peacefully last night at the age of 98.
> > > > He
> > > > >was a long time family friend, professional pilot and holder of many
> > > > >soaring records. Also a member of the SSA hall of fame.
> > > > >He and my father, Ed Byars, had a long friendship and contributed
> > > > much to
> > > > >the art of soaring with their Soaring Symposiums.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Condolences to his family and friends. He was a nice guy, and did a
> > > > lot for U.S. competitive soaring in his day.
> > > >
> > > > RO
> > >
> > > How will you honor him? Will you give him an Egyptian obelisk (a representation of a penis) for a tombstone? Will you turn evergreen tree branches into a wreath and bow down and place this symbol of fertility at the base of his Egyptian penis (another symbol of fertility)?!!! You honor the dead American soldiers with pagan wreaths, why not this aviator?
> >
> > Is there any particular reason you have decided to embarrass yourself by insulting Mr. Holbrock and his family? Or are you feral and just don't know any better?
>
> Don't feed the troll
Perhaps just try mocking me, but do so without violating one of God's Commandments.

heinz weissenbuehler
June 9th 20, 01:49 AM
Byars and Holbrook ;

These were the "Guys " as we grew up in Soaring !

They contributed!!!! To our Sport more than most

June 9th 20, 01:53 AM
On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 4:51:13 PM UTC-4, John Foster wrote:
> On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 2:26:16 PM UTC-6, Daryl Kabatoff wrote:
> > On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 2:15:04 PM UTC-6, Michael Opitz wrote:
> > > At 19:48 08 June 2020, wrote:
> > > >William C Holbrook passed away peacefully last night at the age of 98.
> > > He
> > > >was a long time family friend, professional pilot and holder of many
> > > >soaring records. Also a member of the SSA hall of fame.
> > > >He and my father, Ed Byars, had a long friendship and contributed
> > > much to
> > > >the art of soaring with their Soaring Symposiums.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Condolences to his family and friends. He was a nice guy, and did a
> > > lot for U.S. competitive soaring in his day.
> > >
> > > RO
> >
> > How will you honor him? Will you give him an Egyptian obelisk (a representation of a penis) for a tombstone? Will you turn evergreen tree branches into a wreath and bow down and place this symbol of fertility at the base of his Egyptian penis (another symbol of fertility)?!!! You honor the dead American soldiers with pagan wreaths, why not this aviator?
>
> WOW, Daryl! Have you no sense of decency or appropriateness? Go away.

Don't feed the trolls, ignore them. If only Google Groups would give us a way to block certain senders. Sigh.

June 9th 20, 02:16 AM
On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 3:49:00 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> William C Holbrook passed away peacefully last night at the age of 98. He was a long time family friend, professional pilot and holder of many soaring records. Also a member of the SSA hall of fame.
> He and my father, Ed Byars, had a long friendship and contributed much to the art of soaring with their Soaring Symposiums.

A fine gentleman, a great pilot, and a real contributor to our sport.
The story of his O&R world record is very much worth reading.
I am lucky to have known him.
Good Finish Whiskey Hotel.
UH

2G
June 9th 20, 02:51 AM
On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 5:27:02 PM UTC-7, Daryl Kabatoff wrote:
> On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 3:16:38 PM UTC-6, Craig Funston wrote:
> > On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 1:56:21 PM UTC-7, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
> > > On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 1:26:16 PM UTC-7, Daryl Kabatoff wrote:
> > > > On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 2:15:04 PM UTC-6, Michael Opitz wrote:
> > > > > At 19:48 08 June 2020, wrote:
> > > > > >William C Holbrook passed away peacefully last night at the age of 98.
> > > > > He
> > > > > >was a long time family friend, professional pilot and holder of many
> > > > > >soaring records. Also a member of the SSA hall of fame.
> > > > > >He and my father, Ed Byars, had a long friendship and contributed
> > > > > much to
> > > > > >the art of soaring with their Soaring Symposiums.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > Condolences to his family and friends. He was a nice guy, and did a
> > > > > lot for U.S. competitive soaring in his day.
> > > > >
> > > > > RO
> > > >
> > > > How will you honor him? Will you give him an Egyptian obelisk (a representation of a penis) for a tombstone? Will you turn evergreen tree branches into a wreath and bow down and place this symbol of fertility at the base of his Egyptian penis (another symbol of fertility)?!!! You honor the dead American soldiers with pagan wreaths, why not this aviator?
> > >
> > > Is there any particular reason you have decided to embarrass yourself by insulting Mr. Holbrock and his family? Or are you feral and just don't know any better?
> >
> > Don't feed the troll
> Perhaps just try mocking me, but do so without violating one of God's Commandments.

Like the one that says "Thou Shalt Not Be An Asshole?"

BobW
June 9th 20, 03:54 AM
On 6/8/2020 1:48 PM, wrote:
> William C Holbrook passed away peacefully last night at the age of 98. He
> was a long time family friend, professional pilot and holder of many
> soaring records. Also a member of the SSA hall of fame. He and my father,
> Ed Byars, had a long friendship and contributed much to the art of soaring
> with their Soaring Symposiums.

RIP Bill. Sincere condolences to his family and friends.

Bill's autograph is in my first logbook; he gave me my flight test. As a fresh
college graduate less than a year into my first post-college job and knowing
only a very few people outside work (all soaring club members, natch!), Bill
was one of those club members who from my perspective obviously could walk on
water: chief pilot for Kelly-Springfield Tire Company, an examiner (as I'd
learned only a few days before; who knew?!?), world O&R record holder (from
the Cumberland, MD, glider-end of the airfield, I saw him heading back north
on his record flight - BIG thrill!), and (to my relief) "just an average
person" when it came to his examiner duties. Before flight test day, we'd had
no reason or opportunity to personally interact. Feeling prepared - if
somewhat wound-up - I must have performed Bill's commanded maneuvers
satisfactorily, because when he asked if I was prepared to show him a spin
entry (2-33), I replied I was, but it wouldn't be much of one because my
instructor and I had never been able to get it to imitate a halfway decent
wing drop. He replied, "Would you like me to try? I weigh less than
(instructor) Tom."

"Sure!" (If necessary, proof I wasn't a complete idiot back then, hyuk hyuk.)

Bill had no better luck than Tom and I, despite trying all the usual
entry-technique suspects, in both directions. He tried all the way down to
pattern altitude...and didn't even bother to try and snooker me into "an
awkward location" for the entry. I think he was disappointed he hadn't "been
able to make it do better." I landed where he told me to...and to my surprise,
that was it! No second tow.

Bill's handwriting fills 3 lines of the "Remarks" portion in my logbook,
quoted verbatim below, schoolboy-imperfect capitalization and punctuation and
all...

Private Glider Flight test Completed and temporary Certificate issued. 8/4/73
William C Holbrook 21EA2

Godspeed, Bill.

Bob W.

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Andy Blackburn[_3_]
June 9th 20, 06:46 AM
Condolences to all Bill's family and friends. He was a true ornament to the sport.

For those who remain stuck in the phallic stage of psychosexual development, the rest of us don't much care what Bill's tombstone looks like.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phallic_stage

Andy Blackburn
9B

June 9th 20, 01:32 PM
My sincere condolences to his entire family
I always enjoyed the information in the Soaring Symposiums

Jim Garrison
AE

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