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Miloch
December 24th 19, 06:07 PM
more at
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7824243/Russias-secret-120m-Su-57-stealth-fighter-crashes-just-days-enter-service.html

The Sukhoi Su-57 fighter crashed in a ball of flames and was 'fully destroyed'

It crashed in remote Siberian woodland after the pilot escaped in an ejector
seat

Russia's air force has ordered 76 of the £120m planes to be delivered by 2028

A state-of-the-art Russian fighter jet has crashed on a training mission just
days before the first of the aircraft was due to be delivered to Putin's air
force.

The Sukhoi Su-57 stealth fighter crashed in a ball of flames in the far east of
Russia and was 'fully destroyed', officials said.

It crashed in remote Siberian woodland after the pilot flew it away from a city
and bailed out to safety with his ejector seat.

Russia's air force has ordered 76 of the $155 million (£120million) planes,
which are intended to rival America's F-22 Raptor stealth fighters - to which
they are similar.

The Su-57 is also similar to the Chinese J-20 jet, which is alleged to have been
built using stolen US plans obtained by Chinese hackers.

The stricken aircraft was a test plane not one of those due to be passed to the
air force, according to news agency RIA Novosti.

Residents of Dzyomgi village, some seven miles north of Komsomolsk-on-Amur,
heard a 'strong roar', believed to be the moment the warplane got into trouble.

The plane had taken off from a military airfield close to a village.

Investigators are examining whether the was a 'technical malfunction' or pilot
error, say reports. One source said there had been a failure of the hi-tech
plane's 'control system'.

'A special commission will investigate the causes of the crash,' said a
spokesman for United Aircraft Corporation which owns the plant.

'The emergency escape system functioned as required, the pilot ejected, he is
alive,' said the spokesman.

Ten of the jets have already been built at Sukhoi's plant in Komsomolsk-on-Amur
for pre-production tests and combat evaluation.

Some of them have been flown in combat during Russia's military campaign in
Syria, and the remainder are due to be delivered by 2028.

The unnamed pilot radioed he was in trouble and took the plane away from
Komsomolsk-on-Amur and surrounding suburbs and villages, say reports.

One report said he was 'not injured' but others said he had been taken to
hospital.

The single-seat, twin-engine multirole aircraft is equipped with advanced
avionics and a variety of high-precision weaponry.

According to TASS, the fifth-generation Su-57 fighter is designed to destroy all
types of air, ground and naval targets.

The aircraft has a supersonic cruising speed, carries armament inside its
fuselage, features stealth coating and the latest onboard equipment.

It is reputed to have high manoeuvrability but most data on the warplane remains
top secret.



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Mitchell Holman[_9_]
December 24th 19, 06:24 PM
Miloch > wrote in
:

> more at
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7824243/Russias-secret-120m-Su
> -57-stealth-fighter-crashes-just-days-enter-service.html
>
> The Sukhoi Su-57 fighter crashed in a ball of flames and was 'fully
> destroyed'
>
> It crashed in remote Siberian woodland after the pilot escaped in an
> ejector seat
>
> Russia's air force has ordered 76 of the £120m planes to be delivered
> by 2028
>
> A state-of-the-art Russian fighter jet has crashed on a training
> mission just days before the first of the aircraft was due to be
> delivered to Putin's air force.
>
> The Sukhoi Su-57 stealth fighter crashed in a ball of flames in the
> far east of Russia and was 'fully destroyed', officials said.
>
> It crashed in remote Siberian woodland after the pilot flew it away
> from a city and bailed out to safety with his ejector seat.
>
> Russia's air force has ordered 76 of the $155 million (£120million)
> planes, which are intended to rival America's F-22 Raptor stealth
> fighters - to which they are similar.
>
> The Su-57 is also similar to the Chinese J-20 jet, which is alleged to
> have been built using stolen US plans obtained by Chinese hackers.
>
> The stricken aircraft was a test plane not one of those due to be
> passed to the air force, according to news agency RIA Novosti.
>
> Residents of Dzyomgi village, some seven miles north of
> Komsomolsk-on-Amur, heard a 'strong roar', believed to be the moment
> the warplane got into trouble.
>
> The plane had taken off from a military airfield close to a village.
>
> Investigators are examining whether the was a 'technical malfunction'
> or pilot error, say reports. One source said there had been a failure
> of the hi-tech plane's 'control system'.
>
> 'A special commission will investigate the causes of the crash,' said
> a spokesman for United Aircraft Corporation which owns the plant.
>
> 'The emergency escape system functioned as required, the pilot
> ejected, he is alive,' said the spokesman.
>
> Ten of the jets have already been built at Sukhoi's plant in
> Komsomolsk-on-Amur for pre-production tests and combat evaluation.
>
> Some of them have been flown in combat during Russia's military
> campaign in Syria, and the remainder are due to be delivered by 2028.
>
> The unnamed pilot radioed he was in trouble and took the plane away
> from Komsomolsk-on-Amur and surrounding suburbs and villages, say
> reports.
>
> One report said he was 'not injured' but others said he had been taken
> to hospital.
>
> The single-seat, twin-engine multirole aircraft is equipped with
> advanced avionics and a variety of high-precision weaponry.
>
> According to TASS, the fifth-generation Su-57 fighter is designed to
> destroy all types of air, ground and naval targets.
>
> The aircraft has a supersonic cruising speed, carries armament inside
> its fuselage, features stealth coating and the latest onboard
> equipment.
>
> It is reputed to have high manoeuvrability but most data on the
> warplane remains top secret.
>


I remain mystified by what fighters are
supposed to do in this century. Attacking
and defending bombers is out, ground attack
is done by missles fired from drones, ship
attack is done by missles from other ships,
dogfighting is done by missles fired from
20 miles away. What is the payoff for
super manuvourability?

Miloch
December 24th 19, 06:52 PM
In article >, Mitchell Holman
says...
>
>Miloch > wrote in
:
>
>> more at
>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7824243/Russias-secret-120m-Su
>> -57-stealth-fighter-crashes-just-days-enter-service.html
>>
>> The Sukhoi Su-57 fighter crashed in a ball of flames and was 'fully
>> destroyed'
>>
>> It crashed in remote Siberian woodland after the pilot escaped in an
>> ejector seat
>>
>> Russia's air force has ordered 76 of the £120m planes to be delivered
>> by 2028
>>
>> A state-of-the-art Russian fighter jet has crashed on a training
>> mission just days before the first of the aircraft was due to be
>> delivered to Putin's air force.
>>
>> The Sukhoi Su-57 stealth fighter crashed in a ball of flames in the
>> far east of Russia and was 'fully destroyed', officials said.
>>
>> It crashed in remote Siberian woodland after the pilot flew it away
>> from a city and bailed out to safety with his ejector seat.
>>
>> Russia's air force has ordered 76 of the $155 million (£120million)
>> planes, which are intended to rival America's F-22 Raptor stealth
>> fighters - to which they are similar.
>>
>> The Su-57 is also similar to the Chinese J-20 jet, which is alleged to
>> have been built using stolen US plans obtained by Chinese hackers.
>>
>> The stricken aircraft was a test plane not one of those due to be
>> passed to the air force, according to news agency RIA Novosti.
>>
>> Residents of Dzyomgi village, some seven miles north of
>> Komsomolsk-on-Amur, heard a 'strong roar', believed to be the moment
>> the warplane got into trouble.
>>
>> The plane had taken off from a military airfield close to a village.
>>
>> Investigators are examining whether the was a 'technical malfunction'
>> or pilot error, say reports. One source said there had been a failure
>> of the hi-tech plane's 'control system'.
>>
>> 'A special commission will investigate the causes of the crash,' said
>> a spokesman for United Aircraft Corporation which owns the plant.
>>
>> 'The emergency escape system functioned as required, the pilot
>> ejected, he is alive,' said the spokesman.
>>
>> Ten of the jets have already been built at Sukhoi's plant in
>> Komsomolsk-on-Amur for pre-production tests and combat evaluation.
>>
>> Some of them have been flown in combat during Russia's military
>> campaign in Syria, and the remainder are due to be delivered by 2028.
>>
>> The unnamed pilot radioed he was in trouble and took the plane away
>> from Komsomolsk-on-Amur and surrounding suburbs and villages, say
>> reports.
>>
>> One report said he was 'not injured' but others said he had been taken
>> to hospital.
>>
>> The single-seat, twin-engine multirole aircraft is equipped with
>> advanced avionics and a variety of high-precision weaponry.
>>
>> According to TASS, the fifth-generation Su-57 fighter is designed to
>> destroy all types of air, ground and naval targets.
>>
>> The aircraft has a supersonic cruising speed, carries armament inside
>> its fuselage, features stealth coating and the latest onboard
>> equipment.
>>
>> It is reputed to have high manoeuvrability but most data on the
>> warplane remains top secret.
>>
>
>
> I remain mystified by what fighters are
>supposed to do in this century. Attacking
>and defending bombers is out, ground attack
>is done by missles fired from drones, ship
>attack is done by missles from other ships,
>dogfighting is done by missles fired from
>20 miles away. What is the payoff for
>super manuvourability?
>

Eisenhower warned of the 'military industrial complex'...members of congress are
desperate for federal dollars and will vote for any weapon than has even the
slightest chance of military use as long as the money is spent in their
state/district...and just try to get a weapon system cancelled!!



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Miloch
December 25th 19, 05:20 AM
In article >, Miloch says...
>
>more at
>https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7824243/Russias-secret-120m-Su-57-stealth-fighter-crashes-just-days-enter-service.html
>
>The Sukhoi Su-57 fighter crashed in a ball of flames and was 'fully destroyed'
>
>It crashed in remote Siberian woodland after the pilot escaped in an ejector
>seat
>
>Russia's air force has ordered 76 of the £120m planes to be delivered by 2028
>
>A state-of-the-art Russian fighter jet has crashed on a training mission just
>days before the first of the aircraft was due to be delivered to Putin's air
>force.
>
>The Sukhoi Su-57 stealth fighter crashed in a ball of flames in the far east of
>Russia and was 'fully destroyed', officials said.
>
>It crashed in remote Siberian woodland after the pilot flew it away from a city
>and bailed out to safety with his ejector seat.
>
>Russia's air force has ordered 76 of the $155 million (£120million) planes,
>which are intended to rival America's F-22 Raptor stealth fighters - to which
>they are similar.
>
>The Su-57 is also similar to the Chinese J-20 jet, which is alleged to have been
>built using stolen US plans obtained by Chinese hackers.
>
>The stricken aircraft was a test plane not one of those due to be passed to the
>air force, according to news agency RIA Novosti.
>
>Residents of Dzyomgi village, some seven miles north of Komsomolsk-on-Amur,
>heard a 'strong roar', believed to be the moment the warplane got into trouble.
>
>The plane had taken off from a military airfield close to a village.
>
>Investigators are examining whether the was a 'technical malfunction' or pilot
>error, say reports. One source said there had been a failure of the hi-tech
>plane's 'control system'.
>
>'A special commission will investigate the causes of the crash,' said a
>spokesman for United Aircraft Corporation which owns the plant.
>
>'The emergency escape system functioned as required, the pilot ejected, he is
>alive,' said the spokesman.
>
>Ten of the jets have already been built at Sukhoi's plant in Komsomolsk-on-Amur
>for pre-production tests and combat evaluation.
>
>Some of them have been flown in combat during Russia's military campaign in
>Syria, and the remainder are due to be delivered by 2028.
>
>The unnamed pilot radioed he was in trouble and took the plane away from
>Komsomolsk-on-Amur and surrounding suburbs and villages, say reports.
>
>One report said he was 'not injured' but others said he had been taken to
>hospital.
>
>The single-seat, twin-engine multirole aircraft is equipped with advanced
>avionics and a variety of high-precision weaponry.
>
>According to TASS, the fifth-generation Su-57 fighter is designed to destroy all
>types of air, ground and naval targets.
>
>The aircraft has a supersonic cruising speed, carries armament inside its
>fuselage, features stealth coating and the latest onboard equipment.
>
>It is reputed to have high manoeuvrability but most data on the warplane remains
>top secret.
>


Update: 2:38 AM PST—

TASS reports that a flight control system failure caused the crash, with one
source stating it had to do with the aircraft's tail control surfaces. Interfax
reports the aircraft was the first production Su-57 ever and it was supposed to
be delivered to the Russian Air Force by year's end. If this is the case, it
would be a significant blow to the program on a number of levels.

We will update this article with more information as it comes available.

Update: 6:40 AM PST—

TV Zvezda, an official outlet of the Russian Ministry of Defense, says that
Su-57 exploded when it hit the ground and was totally destroyed. Multiple
outlets are also now reporting that aircraft was indeed the first serial
production example.

State-run media outlet RIA Novosti has reported that the mishap occurred during
an engine test, but it remains unclear if engine trouble was the actual cause of
the accident. Some Russian media reports have pointed to a potential failure in
the Su-57's engine control system, but TASS continues to report that its sources
say the issue was in the flight control system.




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