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Miloch
January 9th 20, 03:50 PM
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Mitchell Holman[_9_]
January 9th 20, 06:38 PM
Miloch > wrote in
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That much "glass" would worry me. I know
they pack all kinds of info but when they
go out I want some normal gauges to fall
back on.

Miloch
January 9th 20, 07:12 PM
In article >, Mitchell Holman
says...
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>Miloch > wrote in
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> That much "glass" would worry me. I know
>they pack all kinds of info but when they
>go out I want some normal gauges to fall
>back on.
>
>

Young pilots nowadays prolly think about gauges as so old fashioned that they
can't imagine having to fly using them.

Took my first flying lessons while still in college in the 60s flying a Cessna
150. Came back from the VietNam War flying UH-1s to Ft Campbell that had a
10,000 foot runway but only four wheezing OH-13s left over from the Korean War
and no assigned fix-wing aircraft!



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Mitchell Holman[_9_]
January 10th 20, 01:47 PM
Miloch > wrote in
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> In article >, Mitchell
> Holman says...
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>>Miloch > wrote in
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>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> That much "glass" would worry me. I know
>>they pack all kinds of info but when they
>>go out I want some normal gauges to fall
>>back on.
>>
>>
>
> Young pilots nowadays prolly think about gauges as so old fashioned
> that they can't imagine having to fly using them.
>
> Took my first flying lessons while still in college in the 60s flying
> a Cessna 150. Came back from the VietNam War flying UH-1s to Ft
> Campbell that had a 10,000 foot runway but only four wheezing OH-13s
> left over from the Korean War and no assigned fix-wing aircraft!


I remember reading of an airliner over Canada
that lost all cockpit power, and the pilots fininshed
the flight navigating only with the wet compass.

Miloch
January 10th 20, 03:01 PM
In article >, Mitchell Holman
says...
>
>Miloch > wrote in
:
>
>> In article >, Mitchell
>> Holman says...
>>>
>>>Miloch > wrote in
:
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That much "glass" would worry me. I know
>>>they pack all kinds of info but when they
>>>go out I want some normal gauges to fall
>>>back on.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Young pilots nowadays prolly think about gauges as so old fashioned
>> that they can't imagine having to fly using them.
>>
>> Took my first flying lessons while still in college in the 60s flying
>> a Cessna 150. Came back from the VietNam War flying UH-1s to Ft
>> Campbell that had a 10,000 foot runway but only four wheezing OH-13s
>> left over from the Korean War and no assigned fix-wing aircraft!
>
>
> I remember reading of an airliner over Canada
>that lost all cockpit power, and the pilots fininshed
>the flight navigating only with the wet compass.


Part of flight school was instrument flying with the worse part being "partial
panel"...it consists of not only flying wearing a hood to keep you from looking
outside the cockpit but a cardboard panel the instructor put on the instrument
panel that blocked out attitude indicator and heading indicator:

https://www.studyflight.com/instrument-flying-partial-panel/

For whatever reason I kept that little piece of cardboard and after 50 years
still occasionally look at it and remember how much I hated partial panel
flying!!


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Mitchell Holman[_9_]
January 10th 20, 07:09 PM
Miloch > wrote in
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> In article >, Mitchell
> Holman says...
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>>Miloch > wrote in
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>>
>>> In article >, Mitchell
>>> Holman says...
>>>>
>>>>Miloch > wrote in
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>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That much "glass" would worry me. I know
>>>>they pack all kinds of info but when they
>>>>go out I want some normal gauges to fall
>>>>back on.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Young pilots nowadays prolly think about gauges as so old fashioned
>>> that they can't imagine having to fly using them.
>>>
>>> Took my first flying lessons while still in college in the 60s
>>> flying a Cessna 150. Came back from the VietNam War flying UH-1s to
>>> Ft Campbell that had a 10,000 foot runway but only four wheezing
>>> OH-13s left over from the Korean War and no assigned fix-wing
>>> aircraft!
>>
>>
>> I remember reading of an airliner over Canada
>>that lost all cockpit power, and the pilots fininshed
>>the flight navigating only with the wet compass.
>
>
> Part of flight school was instrument flying with the worse part being
> "partial panel"...it consists of not only flying wearing a hood to
> keep you from looking outside the cockpit but a cardboard panel the
> instructor put on the instrument panel that blocked out attitude
> indicator and heading indicator:
>
> https://www.studyflight.com/instrument-flying-partial-panel/
>
> For whatever reason I kept that little piece of cardboard and after 50
> years still occasionally look at it and remember how much I hated
> partial panel flying!!


My instructor kept a pocketful of these
insidious discs about the size of drink coaster
that he would randomly slap onto a gauge.
"Opps, you just lost your altimeter." "Dang,
there went your turn and bank as well" "And
look, it's just now getting dark, too".

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