Now the g*damned birds need transponders in the ADIZ

[R.L.]

http://reuters.myway.com/article/20050427/2005-04-27T230347Z_01_N27658879_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-BUSH-AIRSPACE-DC.html

Bush Taken to Bunker After Radar Blip

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Apr 27, 7:03 PM (ET)



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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush was hustled from the Oval Office and
into an underground shelter on Wednesday after a blip on a radar screen was
initially mistaken for an aircraft entering the restricted airspace around
the White House, officials said.

The Secret Service determined minutes later that it was a false alarm. A
flock of birds or a reflection could have caused the blip. Officials said
the investigation was ongoing.

Vice President Dick Cheney also was moved to a secure location as Secret
Service agents, some with shotguns drawn, cleared the area in front of the
presidential mansion.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the president was in the
underground bunker for a "very short amount of time." He said he believed it
was the first time Bush had been taken to the shelter since the Sept. 11,
2001, attacks.

"There were some precautionary measures that were taken. It was quickly
learned that it was a false alarm and that all was clear in a very short
amount of time," McClellan said. "Everything is fine."

Officials blamed the incident on a blip that appeared on a radar screen.
Helicopters sent up to investigate quickly verified that there was no errant
aircraft.

"Out of an abundance of caution, appropriate security measures were taken,"
said Brian Roehrkasse, a Homeland Security Department spokesman.

On heightened alert after the Sept. 11 airplane attacks on the World Trade
Center and the Pentagon, the White House has had several similar false
alarms.

In a November 2003 scare, two Air Force F-16 fighters were scrambled to
secure the airspace over the White House after a blip on radar, possibly
caused by birds rather than a plane, sent scores of White House staff and
tourists fleeing the executive mansion.

[Dave S]

Avweb's Don Brown talked in one of his columns (Maiden And Me... I
believe it was) about how the ATC computers every once in a while just
sprout ghosts and clones.. wouldn't it be interesting if this was
actually the case?

Dave

R.L. wrote:
> http://reuters.myway.com/article/20050427/2005-04-27T230347Z_01_N27658879_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-BUSH-AIRSPACE-DC.html
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> Bush Taken to Bunker After Radar Blip
>
> Email this Story
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> Apr 27, 7:03 PM (ET)
>
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> A uniformed SecretService officer toting a shotgun stands guard inside the
> northwest gate of the...
> Full Image
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> WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush was hustled from the Oval Office and
> into an underground shelter on Wednesday after a blip on a radar screen was
> initially mistaken for an aircraft entering the restricted airspace around
> the White House, officials said.
>
> The Secret Service determined minutes later that it was a false alarm. A
> flock of birds or a reflection could have caused the blip. Officials said
> the investigation was ongoing.
>
> Vice President Dick Cheney also was moved to a secure location as Secret
> Service agents, some with shotguns drawn, cleared the area in front of the
> presidential mansion.
>
> White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the president was in the
> underground bunker for a "very short amount of time." He said he believed it
> was the first time Bush had been taken to the shelter since the Sept. 11,
> 2001, attacks.
>
> "There were some precautionary measures that were taken. It was quickly
> learned that it was a false alarm and that all was clear in a very short
> amount of time," McClellan said. "Everything is fine."
>
> Officials blamed the incident on a blip that appeared on a radar screen.
> Helicopters sent up to investigate quickly verified that there was no errant
> aircraft.
>
> "Out of an abundance of caution, appropriate security measures were taken,"
> said Brian Roehrkasse, a Homeland Security Department spokesman.
>
> On heightened alert after the Sept. 11 airplane attacks on the World Trade
> Center and the Pentagon, the White House has had several similar false
> alarms.
>
> In a November 2003 scare, two Air Force F-16 fighters were scrambled to
> secure the airspace over the White House after a blip on radar, possibly
> caused by birds rather than a plane, sent scores of White House staff and
> tourists fleeing the executive mansion.
>
>

[Ron Natalie]

Dave S wrote:
> Avweb's Don Brown talked in one of his columns (Maiden And Me... I
> believe it was) about how the ATC computers every once in a while just
> sprout ghosts and clones.. wouldn't it be interesting if this was
> actually the case?
>
Not ATC's computers involved here.

[Paul kgyy]

Reminds me of the famous italian fighter pilot, "Chicken Cacciatore".
No offense is intended toward NG members of Roman origin.

[Matt Barrow]

"Paul kgyy" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Reminds me of the famous italian fighter pilot, "Chicken Cacciatore".
> No offense is intended toward NG members of Roman origin.
>

Yeah, but what have the Roman's ever done for us?

[Newps]

Dave S wrote:

> Avweb's Don Brown talked in one of his columns (Maiden And Me... I
> believe it was) about how the ATC computers every once in a while just
> sprout ghosts and clones.. wouldn't it be interesting if this was
> actually the case?

Yep we do. We get false targets all the time. Thousands a day. You
just learn to ignore them.

[Jose]

> "Out of an abundance of caution, appropriate security measures were taken,"
> said Brian Roehrkasse, a Homeland Security Department spokesman.

"Out of an abundance of caution, once again
=inappropriate= security measures were taken,"

Jose
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[Dave S]

Ron Natalie wrote:
> Dave S wrote:
>
>> Avweb's Don Brown talked in one of his columns (Maiden And Me... I
>> believe it was) about how the ATC computers every once in a while just
>> sprout ghosts and clones.. wouldn't it be interesting if this was
>> actually the case?
>>
> Not ATC's computers involved here.

Where do you think the Secret Service is getting its data feed from,
with regards to "identified aircraft" and wether its a squawking a code
or not? I don't know for a fact, but my money is on a data link from
Washington/baltimore Approach (or whatever they call themselves)

Dave

[David Dyer-Bennet]

"Matt Barrow" > writes:

> "Paul kgyy" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>> Reminds me of the famous italian fighter pilot, "Chicken Cacciatore".
>> No offense is intended toward NG members of Roman origin.
>>
>
> Yeah, but what have the Roman's ever done for us?

Well, other than the aqueducts. And the roads, of course.
--
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[Peter R.]

Matt Barrow > wrote:

> Yeah, but what have the Roman's ever done for us?

They gave us numerals.

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[Chris]

"Peter R." > wrote in message
...
> Matt Barrow > wrote:
>
>> Yeah, but what have the Roman's ever done for us?

you would be surprised - they invented concrete for a start.

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"Chris" > wrote in message
...
>
> you would be surprised - they invented concrete for a start.

Fred Flintstone invented concrete.

[Montblack]

("Steven P. McNicoll" wrote)
>> you would be surprised - they invented concrete for a start.
>
> Fred Flintstone invented concrete.


Nope. Sheetrock.

"Theres a town I know where the hipsters go they call it Bedrock
Twitch! Twitch!
And when you get an itch to do the Twitch in Bedrock
it's a twitchin' town so I'll see you down in Bedrock
Twitch! Twitch!"


You were hoping for the Rock 3, by Rockmaninoff?


Montblack

[Ron Natalie]

Dave S wrote:
>
>
> Ron Natalie wrote:
>
>> Dave S wrote:
>>
>>> Avweb's Don Brown talked in one of his columns (Maiden And Me... I
>>> believe it was) about how the ATC computers every once in a while
>>> just sprout ghosts and clones.. wouldn't it be interesting if this
>>> was actually the case?
>>>
>> Not ATC's computers involved here.
>
>
> Where do you think the Secret Service is getting its data feed from,
> with regards to "identified aircraft" and wether its a squawking a code
> or not? I don't know for a fact, but my money is on a data link from
> Washington/baltimore Approach (or whatever they call themselves)
>
Not exclusively...they have radar that can see down closer to the ground
(when it's flying) than ATC radar. I was told it was stuff they were
using for drug interdiction previously.

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
>
> Nope. Sheetrock.
>

Oh, no, it was Fred alright. It's just that old man Slate named it for his
daughter Concretia so Fred's contribution was virtually lost to history.

Or was it lost to prehistory?

[Ron Natalie]

Montblack wrote:
> ("Steven P. McNicoll" wrote)
>
>>> you would be surprised - they invented concrete for a start.
>>
>>
>> Fred Flintstone invented concrete.
>
>
>
> Nope. Sheetrock.
>
> "Theres a town I know where the hipsters go they call it Bedrock
> Twitch! Twitch!
> And when you get an itch to do the Twitch in Bedrock
> it's a twitchin' town so I'll see you down in Bedrock
> Twitch! Twitch!"
>
>
We're gonna twitch around the clock tonight in Bedrock. Twitch Twitch
and Rock is gonna Roll with all his might in Bedrock.
It's a swinging town, come on I'll see you down in Bedrock.