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Slick
April 30th 05, 05:02 PM
If I took the tires off of a 10-speed bicycle would it fit into the beck
seat of a 172?



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RST Engineering
April 30th 05, 06:12 PM
Depends ENTIRELY on the construction of the bicycle. Now if you took the
back seat OUT ...

Jim



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Slick
April 30th 05, 06:59 PM
Definitely not able to take the back seat out. I'm just looking at my basic
10 speed to try and maybe put the forks over the back seat into the baggage
or maybe even loosen the handle bars if needed.
"RST Engineering" > wrote in message
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> Depends ENTIRELY on the construction of the bicycle. Now if you took the
> back seat OUT ...
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John T
May 1st 05, 12:17 AM
You may have to do something about the handlebars and pedals, the way
they stick out.

John

Jay Beckman
May 1st 05, 12:57 AM
"Slick" > wrote in message ...
> If I took the tires off of a 10-speed bicycle would it fit into the beck
> seat of a 172?
>

Can't recall if it was Plane & Pilot or Private Pilot but,

I saw a blurb (with photo) about a bike rack for C172s that mouned ABOVE the
cockpit just like on a car with straps that tied it down to the door frames.

They claimed it had a minimal effect on W&B.

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ

May 1st 05, 01:02 AM
I have an old 10-speed with take-apart fittings on it, that lets you
separate the frame
into two halves. It is (IIRC) late '70s vintage. In that condition it
will fit in the back seat of
a cessna (wheels in place), but pretty well fills up the space. I doubt
that you'd get two
of them in there. I haven't seen anything like that advertised in a
long time. However,
there are numerous types of folding bikes available (check eBay).

If you do carry a bike in an airplane, take care to protect the
upholstery from the oil
and grime on the chain and sprockets. An oversize garbage bag will
serve this purpose.

David Johnson

Charles O'Rourke
May 1st 05, 02:17 AM
> Can't recall if it was Plane & Pilot or Private Pilot but,
>
> I saw a blurb (with photo) about a bike rack for C172s that mouned
ABOVE the
> cockpit just like on a car with straps that tied it down to the door
frames.
>
> They claimed it had a minimal effect on W&B.

I remember seeing that in Private Pilot too. I wonder what kind of
cruise speed loss it causes?

It also seems like it'd be pretty difficult to get a bicycle on top of
a C172, let alone attached securely (and you'd sure want it to be
secure!).

Charles.
-N8385U

Matt Whiting
May 1st 05, 03:24 AM
Jay Beckman wrote:
> "Slick" > wrote in message ...
>
>>If I took the tires off of a 10-speed bicycle would it fit into the beck
>>seat of a 172?
>>
>
>
> Can't recall if it was Plane & Pilot or Private Pilot but,
>
> I saw a blurb (with photo) about a bike rack for C172s that mouned ABOVE the
> cockpit just like on a car with straps that tied it down to the door frames.
>
> They claimed it had a minimal effect on W&B.

This is really funny. Go back and check the date on the issue. I was
wondering if anyone would miss the point on that.


Matt

nrp
May 1st 05, 03:53 AM
We took two 10 speed bikes to Bryce Canyon in a 172H. We had to take
the back seat out, and removed both front and back wheels to make it
all fit.

Surely the idea of a rack on top of a Cessna is a joke??????? Think of
the consequences if something came loose, much less the change in
handling characteristics.................

Morgans
May 1st 05, 04:02 AM
"John T" > wrote in message
...
> You may have to do something about the handlebars and pedals, the way
> they stick out.

My bet is yes, if you turn the handlebars 90 degrees. The pedals unscrew
pretty easily, too. Just remember that one of them is left hand thread.
I'm too tired to try to figure out which one, tonight. <g>
--
Jim in NC

Jay Beckman
May 1st 05, 04:03 AM
"Matt Whiting" > wrote in message
...
> Jay Beckman wrote:
>> "Slick" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>If I took the tires off of a 10-speed bicycle would it fit into the beck
>>>seat of a 172?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Can't recall if it was Plane & Pilot or Private Pilot but,
>>
>> I saw a blurb (with photo) about a bike rack for C172s that mouned ABOVE
>> the cockpit just like on a car with straps that tied it down to the door
>> frames.
>>
>> They claimed it had a minimal effect on W&B.
>
> This is really funny. Go back and check the date on the issue. I was
> wondering if anyone would miss the point on that.
>
>
> Matt

Matt,

Hehe, it just might have been the April issue...

But, it struck me as legitimate because it was in the front of the mag where
they highlight new equipment, avionics, training dvds, etc. and was not a
stand-alone article.

I found passing references to it in a couple of the rec.bicycle.* grouips
via Google too.

But, it might have been an April Fool's gag too.

Jay B

Morgans
May 1st 05, 04:07 AM
"Jay Beckman" > wrote

> Can't recall if it was Plane & Pilot or Private Pilot but,
>
> I saw a blurb (with photo) about a bike rack for C172s that mouned ABOVE
the
> cockpit just like on a car with straps that tied it down to the door
frames.
>
> They claimed it had a minimal effect on W&B.

Since it is on the outside of the plane, it would take a STC, or field
approval, or something, wouldn't it?
--
Jim in NC

Jase Vanover
May 1st 05, 04:34 AM
Look at some of the other "new equipment" profiled on the same page... I'm
pretty sure it is an AFJ ;-)

Not that it couldn't be done I suppose, but think of the drag!


"Jay Beckman" > wrote in message
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> "Matt Whiting" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Jay Beckman wrote:
>>> "Slick" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>>If I took the tires off of a 10-speed bicycle would it fit into the beck
>>>>seat of a 172?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Can't recall if it was Plane & Pilot or Private Pilot but,
>>>
>>> I saw a blurb (with photo) about a bike rack for C172s that mouned ABOVE
>>> the cockpit just like on a car with straps that tied it down to the door
>>> frames.
>>>
>>> They claimed it had a minimal effect on W&B.
>>
>> This is really funny. Go back and check the date on the issue. I was
>> wondering if anyone would miss the point on that.
>>
>>
>> Matt
>
> Matt,
>
> Hehe, it just might have been the April issue...
>
> But, it struck me as legitimate because it was in the front of the mag
> where they highlight new equipment, avionics, training dvds, etc. and was
> not a stand-alone article.
>
> I found passing references to it in a couple of the rec.bicycle.* grouips
> via Google too.
>
> But, it might have been an April Fool's gag too.
>
> Jay B
>

Slick
May 1st 05, 06:10 AM
If you take the tires off you can stack them in the luggage I think, or
buckle them into the passenger seat.
"Gene Kearns" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:12:58 -0700, "RST Engineering"
> > wrote:
>
>
> >"Slick" > wrote in message
...
> >> If I took the tires off of a 10-speed bicycle would it fit into the
beck
> >> seat of a 172?
>
> Oh... absolutely! But what the hell good would it be at the
> destination without tires???



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H.P.
May 1st 05, 12:12 PM
"RST Engineering" > wrote in message
...
> Depends ENTIRELY on the construction of the bicycle. Now if you took the
> back seat OUT ...

Then his CG moves forward and he's nose-heavy and outside the limits
envelope.

Peter Duniho
May 1st 05, 05:52 PM
"H.P." > wrote in message
...
> Then his CG moves forward and he's nose-heavy and outside the limits
> envelope.

Granted, it depends on a few unknown factors. But I think it's unlikely
that the average bicycle replacing the rear seats in the average 172 would
result in the CG being too far forward.

With a 172 that already has a somewhat-forward CG and an especially light
bike, certainly the possibility exists. But it's a pretty remote
possibility, IMHO.

Pete

john smith
May 1st 05, 09:35 PM
nrp wrote:
> We took two 10 speed bikes to Bryce Canyon in a 172H. We had to take
> the back seat out, and removed both front and back wheels to make it
> all fit.
>
> Surely the idea of a rack on top of a Cessna is a joke??????? Think of
> the consequences if something came loose, much less the change in
> handling characteristics.................

You have never seen what some of the folks from Alaska have strapped to
airplanes, have you?

William W. Plummer
May 1st 05, 10:25 PM
john smith wrote:

> nrp wrote:
>
>> We took two 10 speed bikes to Bryce Canyon in a 172H. We had to take
>> the back seat out, and removed both front and back wheels to make it
>> all fit.
>>
>> Surely the idea of a rack on top of a Cessna is a joke??????? Think of
>> the consequences if something came loose, much less the change in
>> handling characteristics.................
>
>
> You have never seen what some of the folks from Alaska have strapped to
> airplanes, have you?

Something like a moose?

W P Dixon
May 2nd 05, 12:16 AM
Come Now, get the STC for the Class 2 trailer hitch and just put them on a
trailer with a bike rack. At least then you can take the trailer off the
plane easier when not using it! ;)

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech


"William W. Plummer" > wrote in message
...
> john smith wrote:
>
>> nrp wrote:
>>
>>> We took two 10 speed bikes to Bryce Canyon in a 172H. We had to take
>>> the back seat out, and removed both front and back wheels to make it
>>> all fit.
>>>
>>> Surely the idea of a rack on top of a Cessna is a joke??????? Think of
>>> the consequences if something came loose, much less the change in
>>> handling characteristics.................
>>
>>
>> You have never seen what some of the folks from Alaska have strapped to
>> airplanes, have you?
>
> Something like a moose?

Scott Migaldi
May 2nd 05, 04:14 PM
Wasn't that in the April 1 issue???

think about it a little more and then look at the add for the dog that
can tow your airplane.

What was it P.T. Barnum said????

Charles O'Rourke wrote:
>>Can't recall if it was Plane & Pilot or Private Pilot but,
>>
>>I saw a blurb (with photo) about a bike rack for C172s that mouned
>
> ABOVE the
>
>>cockpit just like on a car with straps that tied it down to the door
>
> frames.
>
>>They claimed it had a minimal effect on W&B.
>
>
> I remember seeing that in Private Pilot too. I wonder what kind of
> cruise speed loss it causes?
>
> It also seems like it'd be pretty difficult to get a bicycle on top of
> a C172, let alone attached securely (and you'd sure want it to be
> secure!).
>
> Charles.
> -N8385U
>


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John Galban
May 2nd 05, 05:31 PM
William W. Plummer wrote:
> john smith wrote:
>
> >
> > You have never seen what some of the folks from Alaska have
strapped to
> > airplanes, have you?
>
> Something like a moose?

Never saw a moose, but on a couple of occasions I saw a canoe
strapped to the bottom of a C-180/185. I suppose if you had the useful
load, you could cut up the moose and put the parts inside the canoe
before strapping it on :-)

John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

Peter R.
May 2nd 05, 05:46 PM
H.P wrote:

> Then his CG moves forward and he's nose-heavy and outside the limits
> envelope.

Doubtful. What does a seat weigh? 15 lbs? One time I carried a 280
lb man in the front passenger seat of a C172SP. Despite having almost
a total of 500 lbs in the front seat station, the aircraft was still
within the envelope (less than full fuel, of course).

--
Peter

Peter R.
May 2nd 05, 05:50 PM
Slick wrote:

> If I took the tires off of a 10-speed bicycle would it fit into the
beck
> seat of a 172?

If you cannot get your current bike into the aircraft, you might want
to consider looking at a Dahon folding bicycle. I just picked up one
off eBay two weeks ago with the intention of loading it into my Bonanza
so that I can ride while away from home.

These bikes are spec'ed out pretty nicely for the price and built well.
The only downside is that they are so popular now, getting your hands
on a current year model is difficult at this point in the season.
That's why I chose last year's model on eBay.

http://www.dahon.com/folding-bicycles-us-models.htm

--
Peter

George Patterson
May 3rd 05, 04:12 AM
Scott Migaldi wrote:
>
> What was it P.T. Barnum said????

"This way to the egress."

George Patterson
There's plenty of room for all of God's creatures. Right next to the
mashed potatoes.

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