Re: What have we learned from all this?

[Neal Alders]

I have been treated with dexamethasone on 5 occasions for asthma and bronchitis related illness when I was much younger. Was never given supplementary O2 or on a ventilator when being treated with this drug.

This drug is cheap and very commonly used for many issues. Sorry that doesn't fit your narrative.

[Neal Alders]

President Trump had many public events and rallies. All for over 6 months without contracting the virus. All without the masks that are SUPPOSED TO WORK. If Masks work, why cant we have rallies etc?

Also, I find it odd that many are accusing him of hosting a super spreader event, when he probably contracted it before or during the debate prep.

When he was surrounded by Democrats.

But the media didn't label the riots and "peaceful protests" turned arsonists, super spreader events.

But I digress...

[andy l]

On Tuesday, 13 October 2020 at 03:16:45 UTC+1, wrote:
> I have been treated with dexamethasone on 5 occasions for asthma and bronchitis related illness when I was much younger. Was never given supplementary O2 or on a ventilator when being treated with this drug.
>
> This drug is cheap and very commonly used for many issues. Sorry that doesn't fit your narrative.

It's not my narrative, as I'm not a doctor.

The links I gave are about research and conclusions and recommendations from all around the world, including about usage of dexamethasone with Covid, which clearly the same thing as asthma.

Some of these treatments are about suppressing the body's immune system overreacting at the wrong time, so they might not be quite as useful if deployed at other times, such as before it does so.

But of course that's just boring detail for people who want a simplistic solution in a minute or two, and can't be arsed to read a bit further.

[andy l]

On Tuesday, 13 October 2020 at 03:20:50 UTC+1, wrote:
> President Trump had many public events and rallies. All for over 6 months without contracting the virus. All without the masks that are SUPPOSED TO WORK. If Masks work, why cant we have rallies etc?
>
> Also, I find it odd that many are accusing him of hosting a super spreader event, when he probably contracted it before or during the debate prep.
>
> When he was surrounded by Democrats.
>
> But the media didn't label the riots and "peaceful protests" turned arsonists, super spreader events.
>
> But I digress...

Apparently you do.

Several reports a week or so ago have 34 or more people from the White House or among senior Republicans with the virus.

Not many Democrats in either group

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On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 3:13:00 PM UTC-4, andy l wrote:
> On Tuesday, 13 October 2020 at 03:20:50 UTC+1, wrote:
> > President Trump had many public events and rallies. All for over 6 months without contracting the virus. All without the masks that are SUPPOSED TO WORK. If Masks work, why cant we have rallies etc?
> >
> > Also, I find it odd that many are accusing him of hosting a super spreader event, when he probably contracted it before or during the debate prep.
> >
> > When he was surrounded by Democrats.
> >
> > But the media didn't label the riots and "peaceful protests" turned arsonists, super spreader events.
> >
> > But I digress...
> Apparently you do.
>
> Several reports a week or so ago have 34 or more people from the White House or among senior Republicans with the virus.
>
> Not many Democrats in either group

Well, I guess I have heard it all, as Andy stated, COVID does not attack Democrats. So, does COVID attack Libertarians ? I will go out on a limb and suggest that Republicans fly gliders better than Democrats.

[Tango Eight]

>So, does COVID attack Libertarians ?

Can confirm.
T8

[andy l]

On Tuesday, 13 October 2020 at 21:43:07 UTC+1, wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 3:13:00 PM UTC-4, andy l wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 13 October 2020 at 03:20:50 UTC+1, wrote:
> > > President Trump had many public events and rallies. All for over 6 months without contracting the virus. All without the masks that are SUPPOSED TO WORK. If Masks work, why cant we have rallies etc?
> > >
> > > Also, I find it odd that many are accusing him of hosting a super spreader event, when he probably contracted it before or during the debate prep.
> > >
> > > When he was surrounded by Democrats.
> > >
> > > But the media didn't label the riots and "peaceful protests" turned arsonists, super spreader events.
> > >
> > > But I digress...
> > Apparently you do.
> >
> > Several reports a week or so ago have 34 or more people from the White House or among senior Republicans with the virus.
> >
> > Not many Democrats in either group
> Well, I guess I have heard it all, as Andy stated, COVID does not attack Democrats. So, does COVID attack Libertarians ? I will go out on a limb and suggest that Republicans fly gliders better than Democrats.

We've heard plenty, but it seems there's more for people to invent

I said nothing of the sort.

I was replying to what seemed a rather paranoid suggestion that Democrats might have surrounded and deliberately infected Trump.

Even if they had, they wouldn't also have been inside the White House infecting the housekeeping staff, the press liaison staff, the security staff

[Peter F[_2_]]

I'll go out on a limb and suggest that Europeans fly gliders better than
Americans

:-)

At 20:43 13 October 2020, wrote:
>
>I will go out on a limb and
>suggest that Republicans fly gliders better than Democrats.
>

[Dan Marotta]

I wouldn't doubt that statement.Â* Given your airspace restrictions,
regulations, etc., I would think you have to work harder than we do in
our wide open spaces with fewer regulations.Â* Hard work brings skill.

On 10/14/2020 4:06 AM, Peter F wrote:
> I'll go out on a limb and suggest that Europeans fly gliders better than
> Americans
>
> :-)
>
> At 20:43 13 October 2020, wrote:
>> I will go out on a limb and
>> suggest that Republicans fly gliders better than Democrats.
>>

--
Dan, 5J

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> I'll go out on a limb and suggest that Europeans fly gliders better than
> Americans

Well, I will certainly suggest that the Europeans (especially Italians) cook better than we do. Except for Barbecue.

[Dan Marotta]

Well, now that we're picking on individual countries...

If it was heaven:
The Brits would be the police,
The French would be the cooks,
The Germans would be the mechanics,
The Italians would be the lovers, and
The Swiss would be the organizers.

If it was hell:
The Brits would be the cooks,
The French would be the mechanics,
The Germans would be the police,
The Italians would be the organizers, and
The Swiss would be the lovers.

BTW, I'm of Italian (Sicilian) descent.Â* My father immigrated from Sant
Agata, Sicily.

:-D

On 10/14/2020 9:04 AM, wrote:
>> I'll go out on a limb and suggest that Europeans fly gliders better than
>> Americans
> Well, I will certainly suggest that the Europeans (especially Italians) cook better than we do. Except for Barbecue.

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Dan, 5J

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On Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 11:04:48 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> > I'll go out on a limb and suggest that Europeans fly gliders better than
> > Americans
> Well, I will certainly suggest that the Europeans (especially Italians) cook better than we do. Except for Barbecue.
I guess that you never have visited the deep south and had some good fried chicken with mashed potatoes and gravy, and yes the BBQ is delicious.

[Martin Gregorie[_6_]]

On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 11:55:44 -0700, wrote:

> On Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 11:04:48 AM UTC-4,
> wrote:
>> > I'll go out on a limb and suggest that Europeans fly gliders better
>> > than Americans
>> Well, I will certainly suggest that the Europeans (especially Italians)
>> cook better than we do. Except for Barbecue.
> I guess that you never have visited the deep south and had some good
> fried chicken with mashed potatoes and gravy, and yes the BBQ is
> delicious.

Takes a lot to beat a Viennese Tafelspitz.


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Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org

[Dan Marotta]

Boiled meat.Â* Haven't you guys learned how to use a flame?

Try the filet mignon at the Texas Rose steakhouse in Borger, TX. You
won't eat boiled meat ever again.

On 10/14/2020 1:44 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote:
> Viennese Tafelspitz

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Dan, 5J

[Gregg Ballou[_2_]]

On Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 7:23:08 PM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Boiled meat. Haven't you guys learned how to use a flame?
Hey now batsoup is so much more than boiled meat.

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Ozzy swears that raw bat is the best!

Almost worth the rabies shots.

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> I guess that you never have visited the deep south and had some good fried chicken with mashed potatoes and gravy, and yes the BBQ is delicious.

As much as I appreciate good fried chicken, mashed potatoes and gravy, in reality, on a cooking index with northern Italian cuisine rated like a JS-3, it's pretty much comparable to the PW-5.

Not to say it's BAD, just not in the same league.

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On Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 11:00:35 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> > I guess that you never have visited the deep south and had some good fried chicken with mashed potatoes and gravy, and yes the BBQ is delicious.
> As much as I appreciate good fried chicken, mashed potatoes and gravy, in reality, on a cooking index with northern Italian cuisine rated like a JS-3, it's pretty much comparable to the PW-5.
>
> Not to say it's BAD, just not in the same league.
Your last name must in in a vowel. Now that great Northern Italian is that the same as Vienna Sausage in the can?

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> Your last name must in in a vowel. Now that great Northern Italian is that the same as Vienna Sausage in the can?

Uhh..no.

But as you are an obvious connoisseur of Southern cooking, I can understand why you are confused.

Hint: Collard greens, fried catfish and grits are not "delicacies" in Italy.

BTW, my last name does end in a vowel, but I have no Italian heritage. I just like the cooking.

[[email protected]]

On Thursday, October 15, 2020 at 9:55:57 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> > Your last name must in in a vowel. Now that great Northern Italian is that the same as Vienna Sausage in the can?
> Uhh..no.
>
> But as you are an obvious connoisseur of Southern cooking, I can understand why you are confused.
>
> Hint: Collard greens, fried catfish and grits are not "delicacies" in Italy.
>
> BTW, my last name does end in a vowel, but I have no Italian heritage. I just like the cooking.

Mark, I appreciate your humor, and your knowledge of great southern dinner dishes like fried catfish and grits. I grew up in Rome, not that beautiful Italian city, but the Rome located in the Northern port city along the Coosa River. The fried okra was a delicious dish served often with other soul foods of the south. I may well have been he first glider pilot to fly in Rome, made a trip there every summer to fly my Std. Cirrus off Richard Russell airport. Bob

[Mike N.]

On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 10:16:45 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> I have been treated with dexamethasone on 5 occasions for asthma and bronchitis related illness when I was much younger. Was never given supplementary O2 or on a ventilator when being treated with this drug.
>
> This drug is cheap and very commonly used for many issues. Sorry that doesn't fit your narrative.
Ohhh.... don't say that it might actually conflict with a medical organizations absolute authority on all things medical.
i.e. if you think you not it all, well, good luck with that...
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

[Dan Marotta]

Hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa...Â* Absolute authority...

On 10/16/2020 11:15 AM, Mike N. wrote:
> absolute authority on all things medical

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Dan, 5J

[Mike Carris[_2_]]

On Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 8:41:14 PM UTC-6, wrote:
> Ozzy swears that raw bat is the best!
>
> Almost worth the rabies shots.
AKA "Chicken Of The Cave".