View Full Version : High Blood Pressure -- Part II
Jay Honeck
May 4th 05, 12:05 AM
As some of you know, six weeks ago I was diagnosed with high blood
pressure, and was prescribed medication. Although the medicine the doc
gave me WAS on the FAA's list of "approved" drugs, the mere act of
taking such a drug would set into motion all sorts of things regarding
obtaining future medicals that I simply didn't want to face.
Nevertheless, there I was, standing in my bathrobe, holding that stupid
pill in one hand, a glass of water in the other, feeling old and flabby
and powerless. Yet, just as I was about to swallow the damned thing, I
realized one simple fact with absolute clarity:
I liked flying more than I liked eating.
So, with that I put the pill back in the bottle, and resolved on the
spot to change my diet and (to some extent) my lifestyle. I was going
to lose 15 pounds, and see if the old BP would follow.
At 197 pounds, on a 6-foot frame, I was not obese. I have done weight
training with my 14-year-old son for almost two years now, every day --
so there's a fair amount of muscle on this 46-year-old frame. However,
in college I was in even better shape -- and weighed just 175 pounds.
So, I knew there was at least 15 pounds of "extra" Jay on board at all
times.
The first thing I needed to do was to make sure that -- whatever diet I
chose -- I was never hungry. This meant that I needed a high-bulk, low
calorie diet. Since I find the high-fat/high protein/all meat diets to
be counterintuitive, I opted to create a diet made primarily of fruit.
Why fruit? Well, it's no-salt, low calorie, full of vitamins, high in
bulk -- and tasty as hell! I decided I would eat two "fruit meals" per
day, and would allow myself one "normal" meal -- which I initially
designated as being lunch.
Unfortunately, I soon found that society plans too many events around
"dinners" -- and I simply couldn't whip out a banana at a restaurant --
so within a few days my "normal" meal had evolved into dinner.
Thus, for breakfast, lunch, and mid-afternoon snack, I created a diet
made entirely of Golden Delicious apples, Bartlet pears, and bananas.
For dinner, I could eat anything I wanted.
Within a few days, the pounds began to shed. Happily, I was never
hungry, since I was constantly stuffing my face with jumbo apples. And
I could always look forward to a good burger, washed down with a
microbrewed beer, at the end of the day. It was the perfect diet!
Better yet, by eliminating my normal breakfast and lunch, I also
eliminated the lion's share of my salt intake. I also started running
with my son, every other day, in addition to weight training. As much
as I hate running, I soon found that carrying less weight makes running
easier -- so I don't hate it as much anymore.
So how's all this working? I just got back from the doctor, and here
is the tale of the tape:
March 22 May 3
Weight 197 185
BP 155/85 135/82
The nurses were astounded that I could lose 12 pounds in just six
weeks, and (thanks to multivitamins, the fruit, and running) be
perfectly healthy. The good doctor was amazed at a 20 point drop in
blood pressure in such a short time -- especially since it had been
rising for at least the last four years.
So, I think I've discovered the perfect diet. I'm stuffed all the
time, I'm losing weight without being hungry, my nightly indigestion
(always followed by Tums or Rolaids) is completely GONE -- and, wow, am
I regular as hell!
:-)
At this rate I should be 175 by OSH, and -- best of all -- I think this
is a diet I can stick with for the rest of my life. I highly recommend
it!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
Dave S
May 4th 05, 12:37 AM
Congrats Jay! Good for you for taking the necessary steps. Diet and
exercise wont cure ALL blood pressure problems, but its a great first
step for most people.
Dave
Jay Honeck wrote:
> As some of you know, six weeks ago I was diagnosed with high blood
> pressure, and was prescribed medication. Although the medicine the doc
> gave me WAS on the FAA's list of "approved" drugs, the mere act of
> taking such a drug would set into motion all sorts of things regarding
> obtaining future medicals that I simply didn't want to face.
>
> Nevertheless, there I was, standing in my bathrobe, holding that stupid
> pill in one hand, a glass of water in the other, feeling old and flabby
> and powerless. Yet, just as I was about to swallow the damned thing, I
> realized one simple fact with absolute clarity:
>
> I liked flying more than I liked eating.
>
> So, with that I put the pill back in the bottle, and resolved on the
> spot to change my diet and (to some extent) my lifestyle. I was going
> to lose 15 pounds, and see if the old BP would follow.
>
> At 197 pounds, on a 6-foot frame, I was not obese. I have done weight
> training with my 14-year-old son for almost two years now, every day --
> so there's a fair amount of muscle on this 46-year-old frame. However,
> in college I was in even better shape -- and weighed just 175 pounds.
> So, I knew there was at least 15 pounds of "extra" Jay on board at all
> times.
>
> The first thing I needed to do was to make sure that -- whatever diet I
> chose -- I was never hungry. This meant that I needed a high-bulk, low
> calorie diet. Since I find the high-fat/high protein/all meat diets to
> be counterintuitive, I opted to create a diet made primarily of fruit.
>
> Why fruit? Well, it's no-salt, low calorie, full of vitamins, high in
> bulk -- and tasty as hell! I decided I would eat two "fruit meals" per
> day, and would allow myself one "normal" meal -- which I initially
> designated as being lunch.
>
> Unfortunately, I soon found that society plans too many events around
> "dinners" -- and I simply couldn't whip out a banana at a restaurant --
> so within a few days my "normal" meal had evolved into dinner.
>
> Thus, for breakfast, lunch, and mid-afternoon snack, I created a diet
> made entirely of Golden Delicious apples, Bartlet pears, and bananas.
> For dinner, I could eat anything I wanted.
>
> Within a few days, the pounds began to shed. Happily, I was never
> hungry, since I was constantly stuffing my face with jumbo apples. And
> I could always look forward to a good burger, washed down with a
> microbrewed beer, at the end of the day. It was the perfect diet!
>
> Better yet, by eliminating my normal breakfast and lunch, I also
> eliminated the lion's share of my salt intake. I also started running
> with my son, every other day, in addition to weight training. As much
> as I hate running, I soon found that carrying less weight makes running
> easier -- so I don't hate it as much anymore.
>
> So how's all this working? I just got back from the doctor, and here
> is the tale of the tape:
>
> March 22 May 3
> Weight 197 185
> BP 155/85 135/82
>
> The nurses were astounded that I could lose 12 pounds in just six
> weeks, and (thanks to multivitamins, the fruit, and running) be
> perfectly healthy. The good doctor was amazed at a 20 point drop in
> blood pressure in such a short time -- especially since it had been
> rising for at least the last four years.
>
> So, I think I've discovered the perfect diet. I'm stuffed all the
> time, I'm losing weight without being hungry, my nightly indigestion
> (always followed by Tums or Rolaids) is completely GONE -- and, wow, am
> I regular as hell!
>
> :-)
>
> At this rate I should be 175 by OSH, and -- best of all -- I think this
> is a diet I can stick with for the rest of my life. I highly recommend
> it!
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
Montblack
May 4th 05, 01:15 AM
("Jay Honeck" wrote)
[snips]
> So, with that I put the pill back in the bottle, and resolved on the
> spot to change my diet and (to some extent) my lifestyle. I was going
> to lose 15 pounds, and see if the old BP would follow.
> Thus, for breakfast, lunch, and mid-afternoon snack, I created a diet
> made entirely of Golden Delicious apples, Bartlet pears, and bananas.
> For dinner, I could eat anything I wanted.
> At this rate I should be 175 by OSH, and -- best of all -- I think this
> is a diet I can stick with for the rest of my life. I highly recommend
> it!
Good job Jay. Very good job. Well done!
I've rediscovered basic oatmeal these past few months. I sprinkle not too
much in a bowl, water it down, nuke it for 1 minute + 20 more seconds after
a quick stir, and eat it, plain - nothing on it. Plus it's about .003 cents
per serving. Fills me up better than anything I've tried.
Also, grapefruits halves are being consumed around here these days, more
than ever before - no sugar. Margene doesn't like that I scrape all of the
inner white "stuff" out, in one piece, then eat that too. Nummy.
Keep up the good work Jay. Hope the knees cooperate!!!
Montblack
Note to Jim in NC - don't forget the apple in the pig's mouth for OSH. <g>
Dudley Henriques
May 4th 05, 01:58 AM
Hi Jay;
You know...after reading this, I think I'm going to try it on for size. I
don't have the blood pressure problem, but I've just reached my max
allowable weight at 190 and it's time to start going the other way. I'll let
you know how I'm doing. Starting tomorrow morning!!
Dudley
"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> As some of you know, six weeks ago I was diagnosed with high blood
> pressure, and was prescribed medication. Although the medicine the doc
> gave me WAS on the FAA's list of "approved" drugs, the mere act of
> taking such a drug would set into motion all sorts of things regarding
> obtaining future medicals that I simply didn't want to face.
>
> Nevertheless, there I was, standing in my bathrobe, holding that stupid
> pill in one hand, a glass of water in the other, feeling old and flabby
> and powerless. Yet, just as I was about to swallow the damned thing, I
> realized one simple fact with absolute clarity:
>
> I liked flying more than I liked eating.
>
> So, with that I put the pill back in the bottle, and resolved on the
> spot to change my diet and (to some extent) my lifestyle. I was going
> to lose 15 pounds, and see if the old BP would follow.
>
> At 197 pounds, on a 6-foot frame, I was not obese. I have done weight
> training with my 14-year-old son for almost two years now, every day --
> so there's a fair amount of muscle on this 46-year-old frame. However,
> in college I was in even better shape -- and weighed just 175 pounds.
> So, I knew there was at least 15 pounds of "extra" Jay on board at all
> times.
>
> The first thing I needed to do was to make sure that -- whatever diet I
> chose -- I was never hungry. This meant that I needed a high-bulk, low
> calorie diet. Since I find the high-fat/high protein/all meat diets to
> be counterintuitive, I opted to create a diet made primarily of fruit.
>
> Why fruit? Well, it's no-salt, low calorie, full of vitamins, high in
> bulk -- and tasty as hell! I decided I would eat two "fruit meals" per
> day, and would allow myself one "normal" meal -- which I initially
> designated as being lunch.
>
> Unfortunately, I soon found that society plans too many events around
> "dinners" -- and I simply couldn't whip out a banana at a restaurant --
> so within a few days my "normal" meal had evolved into dinner.
>
> Thus, for breakfast, lunch, and mid-afternoon snack, I created a diet
> made entirely of Golden Delicious apples, Bartlet pears, and bananas.
> For dinner, I could eat anything I wanted.
>
> Within a few days, the pounds began to shed. Happily, I was never
> hungry, since I was constantly stuffing my face with jumbo apples. And
> I could always look forward to a good burger, washed down with a
> microbrewed beer, at the end of the day. It was the perfect diet!
>
> Better yet, by eliminating my normal breakfast and lunch, I also
> eliminated the lion's share of my salt intake. I also started running
> with my son, every other day, in addition to weight training. As much
> as I hate running, I soon found that carrying less weight makes running
> easier -- so I don't hate it as much anymore.
>
> So how's all this working? I just got back from the doctor, and here
> is the tale of the tape:
>
> March 22 May 3
> Weight 197 185
> BP 155/85 135/82
>
> The nurses were astounded that I could lose 12 pounds in just six
> weeks, and (thanks to multivitamins, the fruit, and running) be
> perfectly healthy. The good doctor was amazed at a 20 point drop in
> blood pressure in such a short time -- especially since it had been
> rising for at least the last four years.
>
> So, I think I've discovered the perfect diet. I'm stuffed all the
> time, I'm losing weight without being hungry, my nightly indigestion
> (always followed by Tums or Rolaids) is completely GONE -- and, wow, am
> I regular as hell!
>
> :-)
>
> At this rate I should be 175 by OSH, and -- best of all -- I think this
> is a diet I can stick with for the rest of my life. I highly recommend
> it!
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
aluckyguess
May 4th 05, 02:02 AM
Jay I might have to try this. I dont have high blood pressure or anything
like that, but I sure would like to loose 20 lbs. without being hungry. I
have done it on the adkins thing but I dont think you can eat like that the
rest of your life.
"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
> ("Jay Honeck" wrote)
> [snips]
>> So, with that I put the pill back in the bottle, and resolved on the
>> spot to change my diet and (to some extent) my lifestyle. I was going
>> to lose 15 pounds, and see if the old BP would follow.
>
>> Thus, for breakfast, lunch, and mid-afternoon snack, I created a diet
>> made entirely of Golden Delicious apples, Bartlet pears, and bananas.
>> For dinner, I could eat anything I wanted.
>
>> At this rate I should be 175 by OSH, and -- best of all -- I think this
>> is a diet I can stick with for the rest of my life. I highly recommend
>> it!
>
>
> Good job Jay. Very good job. Well done!
>
> I've rediscovered basic oatmeal these past few months. I sprinkle not too
> much in a bowl, water it down, nuke it for 1 minute + 20 more seconds
> after a quick stir, and eat it, plain - nothing on it. Plus it's about
> .003 cents per serving. Fills me up better than anything I've tried.
>
> Also, grapefruits halves are being consumed around here these days, more
> than ever before - no sugar. Margene doesn't like that I scrape all of the
> inner white "stuff" out, in one piece, then eat that too. Nummy.
>
> Keep up the good work Jay. Hope the knees cooperate!!!
>
>
> Montblack
> Note to Jim in NC - don't forget the apple in the pig's mouth for OSH. <g>
john smith
May 4th 05, 02:16 AM
So now everyone has to bring the fruit of their choice to the OSH party,
is that what you are telling us?
Of course, as I understand it, the Kalifornia attendees will be bringing
fermented grape remains, so all is not lost.
Then there are the mid-west folks with fermented corn and apple products.
Georgia flyers, feel free to bring peach products.
Florida, sugar and orange juice products.
Cranberry products from Oregon and Maine.
Have I left anyone out?
July/August is too late for strawberries. There are frozen strawberry
product available at the grocery stores, though.
private
May 4th 05, 03:23 AM
"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
snip
> Good job Jay. Very good job. Well done!
>
> I've rediscovered basic oatmeal these past few months. I sprinkle not too
> much in a bowl, water it down, nuke it for 1 minute + 20 more seconds
after
> a quick stir, and eat it, plain - nothing on it. Plus it's about .003
cents
> per serving. Fills me up better than anything I've tried.
>
snip
Nicely done Jay. Great self discipline, it is a lifestyle makeover.
I am also a lifelong oatmeal fan but I am more of a slow cooked kind of guy.
I bring 8 cups of water to boil and add 1 handful of flax seeds, 3 cups of
organic slow oats, 1 cup 7grain cereal, 1 handful sunflower seeds, 1 handful
of unsweetened shredded coconut, 1 large handful of raisins and simmer for
aprox 45 min. stir occasionally and turn off heat after about 15 min. No
salt or sugar. I like to add 1 or 2 fine chopped apples late in the
cooking. Take a portion for today and allow the rest to cool, then add
enough low fat or soy milk (stir well) to prevent solidification and lumping
when refrigerated. The next few days I just have to add a little more milk
and a quick microwave. I usually add a sliced banana or other fruit and a
couple of slices of whole grain toast. This is all complex carb and takes
all day to digest so I seldom want to eat lunch or donuts.
I save the running for when it is too muddy or icy for my mountain bike,
which is easy on my knees and my two dogs love it as I can finally keep up
to them.
BP 115/70 YMMV
Blue skies to all
George Patterson
May 4th 05, 03:33 AM
Jay Honeck wrote:
>
> At this rate I should be 175 by OSH, and -- best of all -- I think this
> is a diet I can stick with for the rest of my life. I highly recommend
> it!
Well, I could stand to drop about 15 pounds, and it ain't gonna happen the way
my wife cooks dinner. :-) I think there're some apples left in the fridge.
George Patterson
There's plenty of room for all of God's creatures. Right next to the
mashed potatoes.
I'm fighting the same thing Jay... pushing over 49 this year and for first
time the BP was 135/85 and the doc gave me a warning... started the meals
from mom's diabetic cookbook, no I am not diabetic.. and started to shed the
extra 15# I put on after retirement. One month later for my Class II
medical, and the BP was 125/80... close to back to normal... lost about 5#
so far..
BT
"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> As some of you know, six weeks ago I was diagnosed with high blood
> pressure, and was prescribed medication. Although the medicine the doc
> gave me WAS on the FAA's list of "approved" drugs, the mere act of
> taking such a drug would set into motion all sorts of things regarding
> obtaining future medicals that I simply didn't want to face.
>
> Nevertheless, there I was, standing in my bathrobe, holding that stupid
> pill in one hand, a glass of water in the other, feeling old and flabby
> and powerless. Yet, just as I was about to swallow the damned thing, I
> realized one simple fact with absolute clarity:
>
> I liked flying more than I liked eating.
>
> So, with that I put the pill back in the bottle, and resolved on the
> spot to change my diet and (to some extent) my lifestyle. I was going
> to lose 15 pounds, and see if the old BP would follow.
>
> At 197 pounds, on a 6-foot frame, I was not obese. I have done weight
> training with my 14-year-old son for almost two years now, every day --
> so there's a fair amount of muscle on this 46-year-old frame. However,
> in college I was in even better shape -- and weighed just 175 pounds.
> So, I knew there was at least 15 pounds of "extra" Jay on board at all
> times.
>
> The first thing I needed to do was to make sure that -- whatever diet I
> chose -- I was never hungry. This meant that I needed a high-bulk, low
> calorie diet. Since I find the high-fat/high protein/all meat diets to
> be counterintuitive, I opted to create a diet made primarily of fruit.
>
> Why fruit? Well, it's no-salt, low calorie, full of vitamins, high in
> bulk -- and tasty as hell! I decided I would eat two "fruit meals" per
> day, and would allow myself one "normal" meal -- which I initially
> designated as being lunch.
>
> Unfortunately, I soon found that society plans too many events around
> "dinners" -- and I simply couldn't whip out a banana at a restaurant --
> so within a few days my "normal" meal had evolved into dinner.
>
> Thus, for breakfast, lunch, and mid-afternoon snack, I created a diet
> made entirely of Golden Delicious apples, Bartlet pears, and bananas.
> For dinner, I could eat anything I wanted.
>
> Within a few days, the pounds began to shed. Happily, I was never
> hungry, since I was constantly stuffing my face with jumbo apples. And
> I could always look forward to a good burger, washed down with a
> microbrewed beer, at the end of the day. It was the perfect diet!
>
> Better yet, by eliminating my normal breakfast and lunch, I also
> eliminated the lion's share of my salt intake. I also started running
> with my son, every other day, in addition to weight training. As much
> as I hate running, I soon found that carrying less weight makes running
> easier -- so I don't hate it as much anymore.
>
> So how's all this working? I just got back from the doctor, and here
> is the tale of the tape:
>
> March 22 May 3
> Weight 197 185
> BP 155/85 135/82
>
> The nurses were astounded that I could lose 12 pounds in just six
> weeks, and (thanks to multivitamins, the fruit, and running) be
> perfectly healthy. The good doctor was amazed at a 20 point drop in
> blood pressure in such a short time -- especially since it had been
> rising for at least the last four years.
>
> So, I think I've discovered the perfect diet. I'm stuffed all the
> time, I'm losing weight without being hungry, my nightly indigestion
> (always followed by Tums or Rolaids) is completely GONE -- and, wow, am
> I regular as hell!
>
> :-)
>
> At this rate I should be 175 by OSH, and -- best of all -- I think this
> is a diet I can stick with for the rest of my life. I highly recommend
> it!
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
Jon Kraus
May 4th 05, 03:49 AM
Great job Jay!! Hell I'm 5'10 and 195 with no BP problems but I could
lose 15 lbs myself.... I think you may be on to something here... What
do you do with all the farting that is a byproduct of the fruit!!
Jon Kraus
PP-ASEL-IA
'79 Mooney 201
Jay Honeck wrote:
> As some of you know, six weeks ago I was diagnosed with high blood
> pressure, and was prescribed medication. Although the medicine the doc
> gave me WAS on the FAA's list of "approved" drugs, the mere act of
> taking such a drug would set into motion all sorts of things regarding
> obtaining future medicals that I simply didn't want to face.
>
> Nevertheless, there I was, standing in my bathrobe, holding that stupid
> pill in one hand, a glass of water in the other, feeling old and flabby
> and powerless. Yet, just as I was about to swallow the damned thing, I
> realized one simple fact with absolute clarity:
>
> I liked flying more than I liked eating.
>
> So, with that I put the pill back in the bottle, and resolved on the
> spot to change my diet and (to some extent) my lifestyle. I was going
> to lose 15 pounds, and see if the old BP would follow.
>
> At 197 pounds, on a 6-foot frame, I was not obese. I have done weight
> training with my 14-year-old son for almost two years now, every day --
> so there's a fair amount of muscle on this 46-year-old frame. However,
> in college I was in even better shape -- and weighed just 175 pounds.
> So, I knew there was at least 15 pounds of "extra" Jay on board at all
> times.
>
> The first thing I needed to do was to make sure that -- whatever diet I
> chose -- I was never hungry. This meant that I needed a high-bulk, low
> calorie diet. Since I find the high-fat/high protein/all meat diets to
> be counterintuitive, I opted to create a diet made primarily of fruit.
>
> Why fruit? Well, it's no-salt, low calorie, full of vitamins, high in
> bulk -- and tasty as hell! I decided I would eat two "fruit meals" per
> day, and would allow myself one "normal" meal -- which I initially
> designated as being lunch.
>
> Unfortunately, I soon found that society plans too many events around
> "dinners" -- and I simply couldn't whip out a banana at a restaurant --
> so within a few days my "normal" meal had evolved into dinner.
>
> Thus, for breakfast, lunch, and mid-afternoon snack, I created a diet
> made entirely of Golden Delicious apples, Bartlet pears, and bananas.
> For dinner, I could eat anything I wanted.
>
> Within a few days, the pounds began to shed. Happily, I was never
> hungry, since I was constantly stuffing my face with jumbo apples. And
> I could always look forward to a good burger, washed down with a
> microbrewed beer, at the end of the day. It was the perfect diet!
>
> Better yet, by eliminating my normal breakfast and lunch, I also
> eliminated the lion's share of my salt intake. I also started running
> with my son, every other day, in addition to weight training. As much
> as I hate running, I soon found that carrying less weight makes running
> easier -- so I don't hate it as much anymore.
>
> So how's all this working? I just got back from the doctor, and here
> is the tale of the tape:
>
> March 22 May 3
> Weight 197 185
> BP 155/85 135/82
>
> The nurses were astounded that I could lose 12 pounds in just six
> weeks, and (thanks to multivitamins, the fruit, and running) be
> perfectly healthy. The good doctor was amazed at a 20 point drop in
> blood pressure in such a short time -- especially since it had been
> rising for at least the last four years.
>
> So, I think I've discovered the perfect diet. I'm stuffed all the
> time, I'm losing weight without being hungry, my nightly indigestion
> (always followed by Tums or Rolaids) is completely GONE -- and, wow, am
> I regular as hell!
>
> :-)
>
> At this rate I should be 175 by OSH, and -- best of all -- I think this
> is a diet I can stick with for the rest of my life. I highly recommend
> it!
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
W P Dixon
May 4th 05, 03:52 AM
Good going Jay,
I have stayed with my diet as I have mentioned about 2 months ago. I have
gone from 201 to 175, with my goal being 165..my marine weight. I did not do
it all by fruit, I used mostly a watch cholestoral and sat fat diet. With my
version of a normal meal 2 or 3 times a week. Instead of a sandwich for
lunch , yep with all the mayo ham and cheese, I ate a bowl of oatmeal w/
alittle honey on it. I watch the sat fats to about 8 grams a day, yep
sometimes you go over with the normal meal, just remember eat a normal meal
on those days...no second helpings! Cholestoral is
where my problem was, my intake per day on it is less than 40 mg. Heart docs
will kiss you if you stick to that!!!!! I really need to find a good looking
woman heart doc! ;) Even though I have the DVT thing going on, and it really
had stopped my usual activities, my energy level has tripled, and it makes
me feel less and less like anything else is wrong with me!!
So keep hanging in there you can lose all you want , just remember a
treat now and then is ok. If you try to cold turkey off of everything that
you love or that's bad for you at once you have more of a chance to "stop"
the diet. I had to do something I love planes, but I really wanted to do
what I could to see my boy become Commandant of the Marine Corps (17), and
walk my girls down the aisle when they marry (8,1) .
And well I just know if I die first my wife is going to put my in a
plastic trash bag and chunk me in the creek to save money on the burial!! :)
HAHAHA She's a tightwad I tell you! ;)
Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech
I've been on diets since I was 13. I'm 54 now. I have found that nothing
works long term and permanent like controlling your food intake so that you
are hungry once a day. I mean hunger pangs, famished. Just once per day. No
matter what you eat, the once-a-day-hunger diet works. Of course, it helps
to exercise. A brisk walk every morning will do. I've found that this way
I can eat anything, as long as I become hungry once in a twenty-four hour
period.
"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> As some of you know, six weeks ago I was diagnosed with high blood
> pressure, and was prescribed medication. Although the medicine the doc
> gave me WAS on the FAA's list of "approved" drugs, the mere act of
> taking such a drug would set into motion all sorts of things regarding
> obtaining future medicals that I simply didn't want to face.
>
> Nevertheless, there I was, standing in my bathrobe, holding that stupid
> pill in one hand, a glass of water in the other, feeling old and flabby
> and powerless. Yet, just as I was about to swallow the damned thing, I
> realized one simple fact with absolute clarity:
>
> I liked flying more than I liked eating.
>
> So, with that I put the pill back in the bottle, and resolved on the
> spot to change my diet and (to some extent) my lifestyle. I was going
> to lose 15 pounds, and see if the old BP would follow.
>
> At 197 pounds, on a 6-foot frame, I was not obese. I have done weight
> training with my 14-year-old son for almost two years now, every day --
> so there's a fair amount of muscle on this 46-year-old frame. However,
> in college I was in even better shape -- and weighed just 175 pounds.
> So, I knew there was at least 15 pounds of "extra" Jay on board at all
> times.
>
> The first thing I needed to do was to make sure that -- whatever diet I
> chose -- I was never hungry. This meant that I needed a high-bulk, low
> calorie diet. Since I find the high-fat/high protein/all meat diets to
> be counterintuitive, I opted to create a diet made primarily of fruit.
>
> Why fruit? Well, it's no-salt, low calorie, full of vitamins, high in
> bulk -- and tasty as hell! I decided I would eat two "fruit meals" per
> day, and would allow myself one "normal" meal -- which I initially
> designated as being lunch.
>
> Unfortunately, I soon found that society plans too many events around
> "dinners" -- and I simply couldn't whip out a banana at a restaurant --
> so within a few days my "normal" meal had evolved into dinner.
>
> Thus, for breakfast, lunch, and mid-afternoon snack, I created a diet
> made entirely of Golden Delicious apples, Bartlet pears, and bananas.
> For dinner, I could eat anything I wanted.
>
> Within a few days, the pounds began to shed. Happily, I was never
> hungry, since I was constantly stuffing my face with jumbo apples. And
> I could always look forward to a good burger, washed down with a
> microbrewed beer, at the end of the day. It was the perfect diet!
>
> Better yet, by eliminating my normal breakfast and lunch, I also
> eliminated the lion's share of my salt intake. I also started running
> with my son, every other day, in addition to weight training. As much
> as I hate running, I soon found that carrying less weight makes running
> easier -- so I don't hate it as much anymore.
>
> So how's all this working? I just got back from the doctor, and here
> is the tale of the tape:
>
> March 22 May 3
> Weight 197 185
> BP 155/85 135/82
>
> The nurses were astounded that I could lose 12 pounds in just six
> weeks, and (thanks to multivitamins, the fruit, and running) be
> perfectly healthy. The good doctor was amazed at a 20 point drop in
> blood pressure in such a short time -- especially since it had been
> rising for at least the last four years.
>
> So, I think I've discovered the perfect diet. I'm stuffed all the
> time, I'm losing weight without being hungry, my nightly indigestion
> (always followed by Tums or Rolaids) is completely GONE -- and, wow, am
> I regular as hell!
>
> :-)
>
> At this rate I should be 175 by OSH, and -- best of all -- I think this
> is a diet I can stick with for the rest of my life. I highly recommend
> it!
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
Montblack
May 4th 05, 04:50 AM
("W P Dixon" wrote)
> And well I just know if I die first my wife is going to put my in a
> plastic trash bag and chunk me in the creek to save money on the burial!!
> :) HAHAHA She's a tightwad I tell you! ;)
Hey, she could freeze your head, then let the kids fight over it in court -
so that plastic trash bag isn't looking too bad right about now, is it?
What's DVT?
Montblack
W P Dixon
May 4th 05, 05:35 AM
Heck Mont,
I don't know if we could get her to go for the frozen head thing, that
takes electricity you know!!!! May be to cheap!!! And DVT is Deep Vein
Thrombosis.
Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech
"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
> ("W P Dixon" wrote)
>> And well I just know if I die first my wife is going to put my in
>> a plastic trash bag and chunk me in the creek to save money on the
>> burial!! :) HAHAHA She's a tightwad I tell you! ;)
>
>
> Hey, she could freeze your head, then let the kids fight over it in
> court - so that plastic trash bag isn't looking too bad right about now,
> is it?
>
> What's DVT?
>
>
> Montblack
Jack Allison
May 4th 05, 06:04 AM
Jay Honeck wrote:
>
> March 22 May 3
> Weight 197 185
> BP 155/85 135/82
Good for you!
> and, wow, am
> I regular as hell!
Too much information my friend :-)
\>
> :-)
>
> At this rate I should be 175 by OSH,
Did I just hear the gauntlet get thrown down? Montblack, how do you
answer? Oooohhhhh, now I'm messing! :-)
Just think Jay, less of you means more you can haul in Atlas! I mean,
sure, the plane can haul anything that fits through the doors but...it's
another way to look at the benefits of being a smaller you.
--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-IA Student
Arrow N2104T
"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci
(Remove the obvious from address to reply via e-mail)
Morgans
May 4th 05, 07:05 AM
"Montblack" > wrote
> Keep up the good work Jay. Hope the knees cooperate!!!
>
>
> Montblack
> Note to Jim in NC - don't forget the apple in the pig's mouth for OSH. <g>
Hee Hee!
--
Jim in NC
Morgans
May 4th 05, 07:10 AM
"Jon Kraus" > wrote in message
...
> Great job Jay!! Hell I'm 5'10 and 195 with no BP problems but I could
> lose 15 lbs myself.... I think you may be on to something here... What
> do you do with all the farting that is a byproduct of the fruit!!
If it were me, I would always carry a Bic lighter, and laugh a lot! <BFg>
--
Jim in NC
Cub Driver
May 4th 05, 10:43 AM
On 3 May 2005 16:05:15 -0700, "Jay Honeck" > wrote:
> March 22 May 3
>Weight 197 185
>BP 155/85 135/82
Well done, Jay!
-- all the best, Dan Ford
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Jay Somerset
May 4th 05, 11:03 AM
Congratulations, Jay.
One other thing I found contributed significantly to high blood pressure,
and that was caffeine. Two cups of tea or coffee could spike my systolic by
a good 10 points, and diastolic by about 6-7. Are you a tea/coffee drinker?
On 3 May 2005 16:05:15 -0700, "Jay Honeck" > wrote:
> As some of you know, six weeks ago I was diagnosed with high blood
> pressure, and was prescribed medication. Although the medicine the doc
> gave me WAS on the FAA's list of "approved" drugs, the mere act of
> taking such a drug would set into motion all sorts of things regarding
> obtaining future medicals that I simply didn't want to face.
>
> Nevertheless, there I was, standing in my bathrobe, holding that stupid
> pill in one hand, a glass of water in the other, feeling old and flabby
> and powerless. Yet, just as I was about to swallow the damned thing, I
> realized one simple fact with absolute clarity:
>
> I liked flying more than I liked eating.
>
> So, with that I put the pill back in the bottle, and resolved on the
> spot to change my diet and (to some extent) my lifestyle. I was going
> to lose 15 pounds, and see if the old BP would follow.
>
> At 197 pounds, on a 6-foot frame, I was not obese. I have done weight
> training with my 14-year-old son for almost two years now, every day --
> so there's a fair amount of muscle on this 46-year-old frame. However,
> in college I was in even better shape -- and weighed just 175 pounds.
> So, I knew there was at least 15 pounds of "extra" Jay on board at all
> times.
>
> The first thing I needed to do was to make sure that -- whatever diet I
> chose -- I was never hungry. This meant that I needed a high-bulk, low
> calorie diet. Since I find the high-fat/high protein/all meat diets to
> be counterintuitive, I opted to create a diet made primarily of fruit.
>
> Why fruit? Well, it's no-salt, low calorie, full of vitamins, high in
> bulk -- and tasty as hell! I decided I would eat two "fruit meals" per
> day, and would allow myself one "normal" meal -- which I initially
> designated as being lunch.
>
> Unfortunately, I soon found that society plans too many events around
> "dinners" -- and I simply couldn't whip out a banana at a restaurant --
> so within a few days my "normal" meal had evolved into dinner.
>
> Thus, for breakfast, lunch, and mid-afternoon snack, I created a diet
> made entirely of Golden Delicious apples, Bartlet pears, and bananas.
> For dinner, I could eat anything I wanted.
>
> Within a few days, the pounds began to shed. Happily, I was never
> hungry, since I was constantly stuffing my face with jumbo apples. And
> I could always look forward to a good burger, washed down with a
> microbrewed beer, at the end of the day. It was the perfect diet!
>
> Better yet, by eliminating my normal breakfast and lunch, I also
> eliminated the lion's share of my salt intake. I also started running
> with my son, every other day, in addition to weight training. As much
> as I hate running, I soon found that carrying less weight makes running
> easier -- so I don't hate it as much anymore.
>
> So how's all this working? I just got back from the doctor, and here
> is the tale of the tape:
>
> March 22 May 3
> Weight 197 185
> BP 155/85 135/82
>
> The nurses were astounded that I could lose 12 pounds in just six
> weeks, and (thanks to multivitamins, the fruit, and running) be
> perfectly healthy. The good doctor was amazed at a 20 point drop in
> blood pressure in such a short time -- especially since it had been
> rising for at least the last four years.
>
> So, I think I've discovered the perfect diet. I'm stuffed all the
> time, I'm losing weight without being hungry, my nightly indigestion
> (always followed by Tums or Rolaids) is completely GONE -- and, wow, am
> I regular as hell!
>
> :-)
>
> At this rate I should be 175 by OSH, and -- best of all -- I think this
> is a diet I can stick with for the rest of my life. I highly recommend
> it!
--
Jay.
(remove dashes for legal email address)
Jay Honeck
May 4th 05, 01:06 PM
> So now everyone has to bring the fruit of their choice to the OSH party,
> is that what you are telling us?
Heaven forbid! ;-)
However, I think I'll be skipping LaSeur's pancakes, omelet's, and
home-fried potatoes this year...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
OtisWinslow
May 4th 05, 01:36 PM
There's a lot to weight loss and exercise to reduce BP. Back in the mid
90s I had gotten my weight up to around 185 on my 6ft frame. My BP
had ran about 125 to 130 /75 for years. I needed to get back in shape
so I gave up all alcohol. Started working out 3 or 4 times a week at
the gym. Reduced my calorie intake. Got down to 168 or so. Ten
years later I hover around 173. BP at the doc a couple weeks ago
was 120/67. Actually runs about 115/65 at home when I'm relaxed.
Not bad for an old guy in late 50s. It's just a matter of arithmetic ..
use more calories than you take in.
"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> As some of you know, six weeks ago I was diagnosed with high blood
> pressure, and was prescribed medication. Although the medicine the doc
> gave me WAS on the FAA's list of "approved" drugs, the mere act of
> taking such a drug would set into motion all sorts of things regarding
> obtaining future medicals that I simply didn't want to face.
>
> Nevertheless, there I was, standing in my bathrobe, holding that stupid
> pill in one hand, a glass of water in the other, feeling old and flabby
> and powerless. Yet, just as I was about to swallow the damned thing, I
> realized one simple fact with absolute clarity:
>
> I liked flying more than I liked eating.
>
> So, with that I put the pill back in the bottle, and resolved on the
> spot to change my diet and (to some extent) my lifestyle. I was going
> to lose 15 pounds, and see if the old BP would follow.
>
> At 197 pounds, on a 6-foot frame, I was not obese. I have done weight
> training with my 14-year-old son for almost two years now, every day --
> so there's a fair amount of muscle on this 46-year-old frame. However,
> in college I was in even better shape -- and weighed just 175 pounds.
> So, I knew there was at least 15 pounds of "extra" Jay on board at all
> times.
>
> The first thing I needed to do was to make sure that -- whatever diet I
> chose -- I was never hungry. This meant that I needed a high-bulk, low
> calorie diet. Since I find the high-fat/high protein/all meat diets to
> be counterintuitive, I opted to create a diet made primarily of fruit.
>
> Why fruit? Well, it's no-salt, low calorie, full of vitamins, high in
> bulk -- and tasty as hell! I decided I would eat two "fruit meals" per
> day, and would allow myself one "normal" meal -- which I initially
> designated as being lunch.
>
> Unfortunately, I soon found that society plans too many events around
> "dinners" -- and I simply couldn't whip out a banana at a restaurant --
> so within a few days my "normal" meal had evolved into dinner.
>
> Thus, for breakfast, lunch, and mid-afternoon snack, I created a diet
> made entirely of Golden Delicious apples, Bartlet pears, and bananas.
> For dinner, I could eat anything I wanted.
>
> Within a few days, the pounds began to shed. Happily, I was never
> hungry, since I was constantly stuffing my face with jumbo apples. And
> I could always look forward to a good burger, washed down with a
> microbrewed beer, at the end of the day. It was the perfect diet!
>
> Better yet, by eliminating my normal breakfast and lunch, I also
> eliminated the lion's share of my salt intake. I also started running
> with my son, every other day, in addition to weight training. As much
> as I hate running, I soon found that carrying less weight makes running
> easier -- so I don't hate it as much anymore.
>
> So how's all this working? I just got back from the doctor, and here
> is the tale of the tape:
>
> March 22 May 3
> Weight 197 185
> BP 155/85 135/82
>
> The nurses were astounded that I could lose 12 pounds in just six
> weeks, and (thanks to multivitamins, the fruit, and running) be
> perfectly healthy. The good doctor was amazed at a 20 point drop in
> blood pressure in such a short time -- especially since it had been
> rising for at least the last four years.
>
> So, I think I've discovered the perfect diet. I'm stuffed all the
> time, I'm losing weight without being hungry, my nightly indigestion
> (always followed by Tums or Rolaids) is completely GONE -- and, wow, am
> I regular as hell!
>
> :-)
>
> At this rate I should be 175 by OSH, and -- best of all -- I think this
> is a diet I can stick with for the rest of my life. I highly recommend
> it!
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
Jay Honeck
May 4th 05, 02:12 PM
> So keep hanging in there you can lose all you want , just remember
> a treat now and then is ok. If you try to cold turkey off of everything
> that you love or that's bad for you at once you have more of a chance to
> "stop" the diet.
That's the great part about my diet -- I don't feel deprived of anything.
Last night I had a normal dinner (Arby's turkey wrap, curly fries, diet
coke), and after my daughter's concert we had pie at her favorite
restaurant. However, the entire day up to that point all I had eaten was
bananas, apples, and a rice cake (those things come in multiple flavors that
taste great, and REALLY fill you up!)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
Jay Honeck
May 4th 05, 02:14 PM
>> Great job Jay!! Hell I'm 5'10 and 195 with no BP problems but I could
>> lose 15 lbs myself.... I think you may be on to something here... What
>> do you do with all the farting that is a byproduct of the fruit!!
>
> If it were me, I would always carry a Bic lighter, and laugh a lot! <BFg>
Great idea!
Actually, the, uh, regularity that comes with eating a lot of fruit hasn't
been a big change for me -- I've ALWAYS been that way! ;-)
Besides, I think a beer once or twice a week provides the same results...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
Jay Honeck
May 4th 05, 02:31 PM
> I've been on diets since I was 13. I'm 54 now. I have found that nothing
> works long term and permanent like controlling your food intake so that
> you are hungry once a day. I mean hunger pangs, famished. Just once per
> day.
In my experience, hunger is a recipe for uncontrolled snacking in-between
meals -- UNLESS you've got an ample supply of fruit (or rice cakes, or
something bulky and low cal) to munch on.
The secret to the diet I'm following is that I am NEVER hungry, so I never
feel deprived.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
Jay Honeck
May 4th 05, 02:36 PM
> One other thing I found contributed significantly to high blood pressure,
> and that was caffeine. Two cups of tea or coffee could spike my systolic
> by
> a good 10 points, and diastolic by about 6-7. Are you a tea/coffee
> drinker?
Yeah, I used to drink an entire 10-cup pot per day.
Five years ago I switched to Folger's "half-and-half" -- which is a mix of
half decaf and have regular coffee. I can drink all I want without getting
wired -- and I still often drink an entire pot myself.
I suppose that's having some impact on my BP, but decaf coffee is just SO
awful. I don't understand why they can't make it taste better, like they've
done with diet and caffeine-free colas...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
William W. Plummer
May 4th 05, 02:53 PM
Jay Honeck wrote:
>>I've been on diets since I was 13. I'm 54 now. I have found that nothing
>>works long term and permanent like controlling your food intake so that
>>you are hungry once a day. I mean hunger pangs, famished. Just once per
>>day.
>
>
> In my experience, hunger is a recipe for uncontrolled snacking in-between
> meals -- UNLESS you've got an ample supply of fruit (or rice cakes, or
> something bulky and low cal) to munch on.
>
> The secret to the diet I'm following is that I am NEVER hungry, so I never
> feel deprived.
Well, I've been fighting the good battle for 2.5 years. The main thing
I learned is FAT controls hunger. A low fat diet will give you terminal
cravings.
Syndrome X (high BP, obesity, high Blood Glucose) must be avoided unless
you want full blown T2 diabetes. Same deal: exercise and diet. But
avoid sugars and starches.
William W. Plummer
May 4th 05, 02:55 PM
Jay Honeck wrote:
> I suppose that's having some impact on my BP, but decaf coffee is just SO
> awful.
Decaffinated coffee is an oxymoron.
Jay Honeck wrote:
[snip]
> So, I think I've discovered the perfect diet. I'm stuffed all the
> time, I'm losing weight without being hungry, my nightly indigestion
> (always followed by Tums or Rolaids) is completely GONE -- and, wow,
am
> I regular as hell!
Jay,
Weight loss definitely helps lower BP. But it is very possible that
some of the decrease may be due increased potassium intake (magnesium
too) from the fruits. The DASH diet is a proven winner in reducing BP
in people that do not eat alot of fruits and vegetables. Calcium is the
another important nutrient. I have heard it takes about 6 weeks for the
increase in nutrients/electrolytes to make a difference.
http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/public/heart/hbp/dash/
Cheers,
Mike
Trent Moorehead
May 4th 05, 03:55 PM
"OtisWinslow" > wrote in message
. ..
> It's just a matter of arithmetic ..
> use more calories than you take in.
First of all, I want to say congrats, Jay. It's a good feeling when you get
control over something like this.
I used to have acid reflux problems and was also developing high
cholesterol. I cut out saturated fat, lost about 15 pounds and my
cholesterol and reflux problems went away. However, I had a hard time
keeping at it because I didn't have my mind wrapped around it. I am one who
needs to understand what's going on.
Well, my wife started going to Weight Watchers to lose a few pounds of
post-baby weight. To support her, I started doing the diet too by using the
books and materials they provide, but I didn't attend the meetings (I found
the books to be exactly what I was looking for). Long story short, I lost
about 15 pounds again, but this time it stayed off. I have also been going
to the gym 5 days a week which has helped no doubt.
I attribute the success to treating eating like a bank account, or a matter
of simple arithmetic. For me, it wasn't so simple when I was dieting ad lib
because I didn't have the understanding of the "values" of food. For me it
was akin to shopping at a store where nothing had price tags on them. Weight
Watchers broke down the complex issues of fat, carbs, fiber, calories and
exercise into simple concepts I could understand and remember. Once you
understand what food is "worth", you can really control your "spending".
Knowledge is power.
The cool thing about eating this way is that I can have anything you want, I
just have to be willing to pay the "price". Nothing's free in this world you
know! :)
-Trent
PP-ASEL
Dave Butler
May 4th 05, 08:21 PM
Jay Honeck wrote:
> So how's all this working? I just got back from the doctor, and here
> is the tale of the tape:
>
> March 22 May 3
> Weight 197 185
> BP 155/85 135/82
>
Jay, well done!
Dave
TripFarmer
May 4th 05, 10:15 PM
Man that sounds good............No kidding.
Trip
In article <gmWde.1212999$8l.1110213@pd7tw1no>, says...
>
>
>"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
>snip
>> Good job Jay. Very good job. Well done!
>>
>> I've rediscovered basic oatmeal these past few months. I sprinkle not too
>> much in a bowl, water it down, nuke it for 1 minute + 20 more seconds
>after
>> a quick stir, and eat it, plain - nothing on it. Plus it's about .003
>cents
>> per serving. Fills me up better than anything I've tried.
>>
>snip
>
>Nicely done Jay. Great self discipline, it is a lifestyle makeover.
>
>I am also a lifelong oatmeal fan but I am more of a slow cooked kind of guy.
>
>I bring 8 cups of water to boil and add 1 handful of flax seeds, 3 cups of
>organic slow oats, 1 cup 7grain cereal, 1 handful sunflower seeds, 1 handful
>of unsweetened shredded coconut, 1 large handful of raisins and simmer for
>aprox 45 min. stir occasionally and turn off heat after about 15 min. No
>salt or sugar. I like to add 1 or 2 fine chopped apples late in the
>cooking. Take a portion for today and allow the rest to cool, then add
>enough low fat or soy milk (stir well) to prevent solidification and lumping
>when refrigerated. The next few days I just have to add a little more milk
>and a quick microwave. I usually add a sliced banana or other fruit and a
>couple of slices of whole grain toast. This is all complex carb and takes
>all day to digest so I seldom want to eat lunch or donuts.
>
>I save the running for when it is too muddy or icy for my mountain bike,
>which is easy on my knees and my two dogs love it as I can finally keep up
>to them.
>
>BP 115/70 YMMV
>
>Blue skies to all
>
>
Cecil Chapman
May 5th 05, 01:24 AM
Good move, Jay! While it was creeping up as I put on weight, high blood
pressure wasn't my problem. A handful of months ago, I began a weight loss
program since it occurred to me that I would really like to be able to
accommodate pilots who wanted to train in the C152 (i.e., later when I have
my CFI). At the time I had let myself get up to about 185 which didn't
'disqualify' me from flying in the 152's it would however limit me to taking
up exceptionally petite students <grin>. So, I had a Carnation instant
breakfast for breakfast, Lunch a grilled chicken breast and dinner varies
from healthy choice chicken soup and pasta to a grilled turkey burger and
some V-8. Anyway, I am down to 165 and was amazed how much further my blood
pressure went down. Just 15 or 20 lbs of excess weight makes a big
difference. I'm going down to 155 and staying there (I am about 5' 7").
Great work and good story to hear!!! :0)
My wife and I really do have to check out your Inn some day!!! :0)
--
--
=-----
Good Flights!
Cecil
PP-ASEL-IA
Student - CP-ASEL
Check out my personal flying adventures from my first flight to the
checkride AND the continuing adventures beyond!
Complete with pictures and text at: www.bayareapilot.com
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery -
"We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
- Cecil Day Lewis -
"
Cecil Chapman
May 5th 05, 01:41 AM
> Actually, the, uh, regularity that comes with eating a lot of fruit hasn't
> been a big change for me -- I've ALWAYS been that way! ;-)
>
> Besides, I think a beer once or twice a week provides the same results...
> --
> Jay Honeck
Hmmm... I think we are learning a little more about you than we'd like
<<<GRIN>>>> LOL!
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=-----
Good Flights!
Cecil
PP-ASEL-IA
Student - CP-ASEL
Check out my personal flying adventures from my first flight to the
checkride AND the continuing adventures beyond!
Complete with pictures and text at: www.bayareapilot.com
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery -
"We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
- Cecil Day Lewis -
Martin Hotze
May 5th 05, 12:41 PM
On Thu, 05 May 2005 00:24:19 GMT, Cecil Chapman wrote:
>My wife and I really do have to check out your Inn some day!!! :0)
... with fresh fruit served to your room every morning ... err .. or was
this breakfast & newspaper? :-)
#m
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Jay Honeck
May 5th 05, 03:27 PM
> .. with fresh fruit served to your room every morning ... err .. or was
> this breakfast & newspaper? :-)
http://alexisparkinn.com/breakfast_delivered!.htm
We've offered fruit as part of our free delivered breakfast since we
opened...
(Ignore the chocolate cake donuts, blueberry muffins, cream cheese, etc...)
;-)
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
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