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Jimmy B.
May 5th 05, 01:21 AM
Hey all, looks like I need to plan a flight to the Detroit area for a
family thing.

The actual function I'm attending is in Ypsilanti but everyone is
meeting at my sister's house which is in South Lyon.

So it looks like either New Hudson (Y47), Willow Run (YIP) or Pontiac
(PTK) are my choices for airports to fly into.

Any PIREPs on any of these airports would be appreciated. Also, if I've
overlooked a good choice, please let me know.

I'm flying a 172RG so runway length really isn't an issue, but this is
an all weekend function so something with tie-downs is needed.

TIA for any information.

Chris Schmelzer
May 5th 05, 05:34 AM
In article et>,
"Jimmy B." > wrote:

> Hey all, looks like I need to plan a flight to the Detroit area for a
> family thing.
>
> The actual function I'm attending is in Ypsilanti but everyone is
> meeting at my sister's house which is in South Lyon.
>
> So it looks like either New Hudson (Y47), Willow Run (YIP) or Pontiac
> (PTK) are my choices for airports to fly into.
>
> Any PIREPs on any of these airports would be appreciated. Also, if I've
> overlooked a good choice, please let me know.
>
> I'm flying a 172RG so runway length really isn't an issue, but this is
> an all weekend function so something with tie-downs is needed.
>
> TIA for any information.



If you consider KARB (Ann Arbor) I'd be more than happy to offer you any
assistance...

-Chris

--
Chris Schmelzer, MD
Capt, 110th Fighter Michigan ANG
University of Michigan Hospitals
Ann Arbor, MI

Denny
May 5th 05, 12:51 PM
Being local in mid Michigan I have been to all three airports, and they
are just airports...

PTK is the busiest with a mix of bug smashers and jets, heavy student
training, etc... It is one of the busiest Gen Av airports in the
country and would be a good experience to do, at least once...
YIP is busy but not in the same league with PTK...
Y47 is least busy...

Which is closer and more convenient for your family to drive to - pick
that one...
uuhhh, off the top of my head I think that Y47 is the closest to South
Lyons, like 7-8 miles or so, isn't it? Go to AIRNAV.COM and take a
look - I'm outta here...

cheers ... denny

Morgans
May 5th 05, 09:02 PM
"Chris Schmelzer" > wrote

> If you consider KARB (Ann Arbor) I'd be more than happy to offer you any
> assistance...
>
> -Chris

Ann Arbor? Isn't that where they insert the hose, when the United States
gets an enima? <Bfg>
--
Jim in NC (Go Bucks! )

Chris Schmelzer
May 6th 05, 05:24 AM
In article >,
"Morgans" > wrote:

> "Chris Schmelzer" > wrote
>
> > If you consider KARB (Ann Arbor) I'd be more than happy to offer you any
> > assistance...
> >
> > -Chris
>
> Ann Arbor? Isn't that where they insert the hose, when the United States
> gets an enima? <Bfg>

Huh?

--
Chris Schmelzer, MD
Capt, 110th Fighter Michigan ANG
University of Michigan Hospitals
Ann Arbor, MI

W P Dixon
May 6th 05, 06:46 AM
I believe Chris that Jim is taking a friendly jab at the University of
Michigan, being as he is a Buckeye fan. Of course I think that the best
thing that happened with Ohio St football was when Woody Hayes knocked the
crap out of the Clemson player. Being a Georgia Dawg from my Dad's side and
a Carolina Gamecock on Mom's , I just have to hate Clemson.....sorta like
Jim hates Michigan ;)

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"Chris Schmelzer" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Morgans" > wrote:
>
>> "Chris Schmelzer" > wrote
>>
>> > If you consider KARB (Ann Arbor) I'd be more than happy to offer you
>> > any
>> > assistance...
>> >
>> > -Chris
>>
>> Ann Arbor? Isn't that where they insert the hose, when the United States
>> gets an enima? <Bfg>
>
> Huh?
>
> --
> Chris Schmelzer, MD
> Capt, 110th Fighter Michigan ANG
> University of Michigan Hospitals
> Ann Arbor, MI

Jimmy B.
May 7th 05, 01:27 AM
Denny wrote:
> Being local in mid Michigan I have been to all three airports, and they
> are just airports...
>
> PTK is the busiest with a mix of bug smashers and jets, heavy student
> training, etc... It is one of the busiest Gen Av airports in the
> country and would be a good experience to do, at least once...
> YIP is busy but not in the same league with PTK...
> Y47 is least busy...
>
> Which is closer and more convenient for your family to drive to - pick
> that one...
> uuhhh, off the top of my head I think that Y47 is the closest to South
> Lyons, like 7-8 miles or so, isn't it? Go to AIRNAV.COM and take a
> look - I'm outta here...
>
> cheers ... denny
>
Yeah, Y47 is like 5 miles from where we're meeting. But it also has the
most expensive fuel of the lot also. Does Y47 have transient tie downs?

I'm thinking that YIP might be better because they have rental cars
right there. (With Y47, you have to get Enterprise, which is a pick-up
sort of thing.)

Jimmy B.
May 7th 05, 01:28 AM
Chris Schmelzer wrote:
> In article et>,
> "Jimmy B." > wrote:
>
>
>>Hey all, looks like I need to plan a flight to the Detroit area for a
>>family thing.
>>
>>The actual function I'm attending is in Ypsilanti but everyone is
>>meeting at my sister's house which is in South Lyon.
>>
>>So it looks like either New Hudson (Y47), Willow Run (YIP) or Pontiac
>>(PTK) are my choices for airports to fly into.
>>
>>Any PIREPs on any of these airports would be appreciated. Also, if I've
>>overlooked a good choice, please let me know.
>>
>>I'm flying a 172RG so runway length really isn't an issue, but this is
>>an all weekend function so something with tie-downs is needed.
>>
>>TIA for any information.
>
>
>
>
> If you consider KARB (Ann Arbor) I'd be more than happy to offer you any
> assistance...
>
> -Chris
>


Okay, I looked into ARB but didn't see any reason to use it instead of
YIP. Is there something I'm missing?

Morgans
May 9th 05, 08:10 AM
"W P Dixon" > wrote in message

> I believe Chris that Jim is taking a friendly jab at the University of
> Michigan, being as he is a Buckeye fan.`

What makes you think that was a "friendly " jab? ;-)

Of course I think that the best
> thing that happened with Ohio St football was when Woody Hayes knocked
the
> crap out of the Clemson player.

Yep. I was there, in the band, at the time. We refer to that as the
"Punch" bowl. <g>
--
Jim in NC

W P Dixon
May 9th 05, 10:13 AM
Yep,
To my Uncle in Gaffney SC ,Woody Hayes will always be his hero for knocking
the crap out of "The Palestine Heathen" Clemson player. :) So you were in
the Buckeye band, pretty cool, what did you play? I played sax in high
school. Got tired of the whole marching band thing and picked up a guitar
instead .

Patrick
student SPL
aicraft structural mech


"Morgans" > wrote in message
...
>
> "W P Dixon" > wrote in message
>
>> I believe Chris that Jim is taking a friendly jab at the University of
>> Michigan, being as he is a Buckeye fan.`
>
> What makes you think that was a "friendly " jab? ;-)
>
> Of course I think that the best
>> thing that happened with Ohio St football was when Woody Hayes knocked
> the
>> crap out of the Clemson player.
>
> Yep. I was there, in the band, at the time. We refer to that as the
> "Punch" bowl. <g>
> --
> Jim in NC
>

Morgans
May 10th 05, 05:19 AM
"W P Dixon" > wrote in message
...
> Yep,
> To my Uncle in Gaffney SC ,Woody Hayes will always be his hero for
knocking
> the crap out of "The Palestine Heathen" Clemson player.

I have sat and eaten lunch with Woody a couple times, in the campus Wendys.
When he saw someone with a band jacket on, he would go out of his way to
talk to them. He was pretty cool.

The last year or so, he was getting senile, I think. I could tell from our
chats. Losing your temper out of charater is one of the symptoms. Too bad
he didn't retire before that game.

> So you were in
> the Buckeye band, pretty cool, what did you play?

Baritone horn. Being in the band was one of the coolest things I have ever
been a part of. Unbelievable memories!
--
Jim in NC

Jay Beckman
May 10th 05, 05:34 AM
"Morgans" > wrote in message
...
>
> "W P Dixon" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Yep,
>> To my Uncle in Gaffney SC ,Woody Hayes will always be his hero for
> knocking
>> the crap out of "The Palestine Heathen" Clemson player.
>
> I have sat and eaten lunch with Woody a couple times, in the campus
> Wendys.
> When he saw someone with a band jacket on, he would go out of his way to
> talk to them. He was pretty cool.
>
> The last year or so, he was getting senile, I think. I could tell from
> our
> chats. Losing your temper out of charater is one of the symptoms. Too
> bad
> he didn't retire before that game.
>
>> So you were in
>> the Buckeye band, pretty cool, what did you play?
>
> Baritone horn. Being in the band was one of the coolest things I have
> ever
> been a part of. Unbelievable memories!
> --
> Jim in NC
>

When I was in HS marching band, I was always in awe of the script Ohio State
and always cheered the tuba (sousaphone?) player who got to "Dot the I".

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL (Former Trombonist)
Chandler, AZ

W P Dixon
May 10th 05, 02:31 PM
We keep this up and we may have enough people to start a band from the
group!

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

Morgans
May 10th 05, 09:49 PM
"Jay Beckman" > wrote
>
> When I was in HS marching band, I was always in awe of the script Ohio
State
> and always cheered the tuba (sousaphone?) player who got to "Dot the I".
>
> Jay Beckman
> PP-ASEL (Former Trombonist)

I was actually a trombone player, in the OSU school of music. At the time,
Ohio State did not have slide trombones, only valve trombones. Baritones
are just about the same animal, and they needed Baritones, so I picked that
up.

I taught band a few years before becoming a building contractor, then a
carpentry teacher. Just a little change, right?

The "I dotter" is chosen from among the Sousaphone players, by pier votes.
It is quite an honor, and always the high point in a "tuba" players band
career.
--
Jim in NC

Jose
May 10th 05, 10:33 PM
> The "I dotter" is chosen from among the Sousaphone players, by pier votes.

Why is the pier voting, when Ohio State isn't even on a lake?

Jose
--
Money: what you need when you run out of brains.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

W P Dixon
May 10th 05, 10:58 PM
HEE HEE,
He got ya there Jim!
I enjoyed the band trips and such, but really what got me out of it was
the crappy music I was required to play. just was not to my musical taste!
Of course I enjoyed playing sax on "fifties day". I loathed concert band,
but I really enjoyed jazz band. And then they would not let you stay in Jazz
Band and not go through the torture of marching band and concert band.

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"Jose" > wrote in message
. ..
>> The "I dotter" is chosen from among the Sousaphone players, by pier
>> votes.
>
> Why is the pier voting, when Ohio State isn't even on a lake?
>
> Jose
> --
> Money: what you need when you run out of brains.
> for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

Andrew Sarangan
May 11th 05, 12:05 AM
Flew into Pontiac (PTK) once. Did not have any problem getting in and out.




"Jimmy B." > wrote in news:zGdee.3838$pe3.1306
@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:

> Hey all, looks like I need to plan a flight to the Detroit area for a
> family thing.
>
> The actual function I'm attending is in Ypsilanti but everyone is
> meeting at my sister's house which is in South Lyon.
>
> So it looks like either New Hudson (Y47), Willow Run (YIP) or Pontiac
> (PTK) are my choices for airports to fly into.
>
> Any PIREPs on any of these airports would be appreciated. Also, if I've
> overlooked a good choice, please let me know.
>
> I'm flying a 172RG so runway length really isn't an issue, but this is
> an all weekend function so something with tie-downs is needed.
>
> TIA for any information.

Morgans
May 11th 05, 09:04 PM
"Jose" > wrote

> Why is the pier voting, when Ohio State isn't even on a lake?

Yep, that one got away. I left the pier early! <g>

You know, I was running spell check, and saw that mistake, and just punched
the next button, thinking that it would stop on that (pier) next, and I
could fix it. Just milli-seconds after I hit the send button, I realized
that pier was a valid word, and it would go on past it, and send it. I
never got the chance to fix it, so there she went!
--
Jim in NC

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