protecting sliding mechanism

[Ernest Christley]

I have some 4130 steel parts that slide in other 4130 steel parts, but
only occasionally. Most of the time the parts just sit around waiting
to be used. What is the best to keep the surfaces from rusting? Paint
is out, as it would clog the mechanism.


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[Denny]

Fog with LPS #3...

denny

[Cy Galley]

There is a graphite based paint called "Slip Plate" Farmers use in on seeder
disks and plow mold boards. I use it on the Tail Wheel Strut on my
Bellanca. Lubricates without loading up with dirt. You can get it in
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a rattle can.




"Ernest Christley" > wrote in message
om...
>I have some 4130 steel parts that slide in other 4130 steel parts, but only
>occasionally. Most of the time the parts just sit around waiting to be
>used. What is the best to keep the surfaces from rusting? Paint is out, as
>it would clog the mechanism.
>
>
> --
> This is by far the hardest lesson about freedom. It goes against
> instinct, and morality, to just sit back and watch people make
> mistakes. We want to help them, which means control them and their
> decisions, but in doing so we actually hurt them (and ourselves)."

[Ernest Christley]

Cy Galley wrote:
> There is a graphite based paint called "Slip Plate" Farmers use in on seeder
> disks and plow mold boards. I use it on the Tail Wheel Strut on my
> Bellanca. Lubricates without loading up with dirt. You can get it in
> a rattle can.

The application I'm working on is for a folding wing mechanism. Just
won't to make things slide around a little better after I get through
flying, and don't want the mechanism to rust in the meantime. I don't
want to use any sort of grease. That'll make things REAL messy every
time I want to take the plane home.

To see what the wing folding process looks like follow this link:
http://ernest.isa-geek.org/Delta/Pictures/WingAssembly.gif

Note that Time-Warner only give me 50kbs upstream and this animated gif
is 3.5Megs. So, please be gentle to my poor server 8*)

I could only find one supplier of the "Slip Plate" brand, and it was $85
for a 12oz can. So I did a search for dry film lubricants, and came up
with this:

http://www.graphitestore.com/items_list.asp/action/prod/prd_id/35/cat_id/28

Basically $11. That's quite a spread. Do you have any idea what makes
one sell for nearly 8 times the cost of the other?

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This is by far the hardest lesson about freedom. It goes against
instinct, and morality, to just sit back and watch people make
mistakes. We want to help them, which means control them and their
decisions, but in doing so we actually hurt them (and ourselves)."

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Ernest Christley wrote:
> ...
>
> I could only find one supplier of the "Slip Plate" brand, and it was
$85
> for a 12oz can.
> ...


How about $17.49 for a quart? (Google is great, but use Froogle to
shop):

http://doitbest.com/shop/product.asp?dept_id=2022&sku=579521

Daniel

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Ernest Christley wrote:
> ...
> I could only find one supplier of the "Slip Plate" brand, and it was
$85
> for a 12oz can. So I did a search for dry film lubricants, and came
up
> with ... Basically $11. That's quite a spread. Do you have any idea
what makes
> one sell for nearly 8 times the cost of the other?


Slip Plate is essentially a long wearing paint loaded with graphite.
The other is just graphite. Slip Plate won't create a mess like an
ordinary graphite lubricant, it stays where you paint it & provides
some corrosion protection as well as lubrication. With Slip Plate, you
may have to make some allowance for the thickness of the stuff.

Daniel

[Tim Ward]

"Ernest Christley" > wrote in message
om...
> Cy Galley wrote:
> > There is a graphite based paint called "Slip Plate" Farmers use in on
seeder
> > disks and plow mold boards. I use it on the Tail Wheel Strut on my
> > Bellanca. Lubricates without loading up with dirt. You can get it in
> > a rattle can.
>
> The application I'm working on is for a folding wing mechanism. Just
> won't to make things slide around a little better after I get through
> flying, and don't want the mechanism to rust in the meantime. I don't
> want to use any sort of grease. That'll make things REAL messy every
> time I want to take the plane home.
>
> To see what the wing folding process looks like follow this link:
> http://ernest.isa-geek.org/Delta/Pictures/WingAssembly.gif
>
> Note that Time-Warner only give me 50kbs upstream and this animated gif
> is 3.5Megs. So, please be gentle to my poor server 8*)
>
> I could only find one supplier of the "Slip Plate" brand, and it was $85
> for a 12oz can. So I did a search for dry film lubricants, and came up
> with this:
>
>
http://www.graphitestore.com/items_list.asp/action/prod/prd_id/35/cat_id/28
>
> Basically $11. That's quite a spread. Do you have any idea what makes
> one sell for nearly 8 times the cost of the other?
>
> --
> This is by far the hardest lesson about freedom. It goes against
> instinct, and morality, to just sit back and watch people make
> mistakes. We want to help them, which means control them and their
> decisions, but in doing so we actually hurt them (and ourselves)."

For a different sort of possible solution, you might look at UHMW
polyethylene. It's slippery and pretty rugged.
I think McMaster-Carr carries both chunks and tape.

Tim Ward

[Ernest Christley]

Tim Ward wrote:
>
> For a different sort of possible solution, you might look at UHMW
> polyethylene. It's slippery and pretty rugged.
> I think McMaster-Carr carries both chunks and tape.
>
> Tim Ward
>
>

Thanks, Tim. Good idea. I actually have quite a bit of it.
Unfortunately, the design didn't allow for it. Adding the space for a
bearing would cut into structural parts that I wasn't about to change.

I think the Slip Plate will work for this application (there is a slight
amount of play that will allow for the coating thickness), and I through
this conversation I have a good lead on Tech Line Coatings that someone
sent to me offline. I'll be using several of their products in my
engine installation.

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This is by far the hardest lesson about freedom. It goes against
instinct, and morality, to just sit back and watch people make
mistakes. We want to help them, which means control them and their
decisions, but in doing so we actually hurt them (and ourselves)."

[Ernest Christley]

wrote:
> Ernest Christley wrote:
>
>>...
>>
>>I could only find one supplier of the "Slip Plate" brand, and it was
>
> $85
>
>>for a 12oz can.
>>...
>
>
>
> How about $17.49 for a quart? (Google is great, but use Froogle to
> shop):
>
> http://doitbest.com/shop/product.asp?dept_id=2022&sku=579521
>
> Daniel
>

I love going to school. Especially when it saves me that much money 8*)

Thank you.

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This is by far the hardest lesson about freedom. It goes against
instinct, and morality, to just sit back and watch people make
mistakes. We want to help them, which means control them and their
decisions, but in doing so we actually hurt them (and ourselves)."

[Bob Kuykendall]

Can you just send the parts out and have them hard-chromed?

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Well, I was thinking of the self adhesive tape.
..006 seems like it would be on the same order as a thick paint coating.

Tim Ward

[Ernest Christley]

Bob Kuykendall wrote:
> Can you just send the parts out and have them hard-chromed?
>

Actually, got a guy who will do it locally, but it is quite the
overkill. I found the Slip Plate coating at Grainger. There's one
locally, so I don't even have to order it. A 12oz spray can is $6.85,
and from what I understand will take way more than I ever plan to throw
at it. In fact, if it works as advertised (which I fully expect it
will) I'll have several more parts that will 'need' a coat.

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This is by far the hardest lesson about freedom. It goes against
instinct, and morality, to just sit back and watch people make
mistakes. We want to help them, which means control them and their
decisions, but in doing so we actually hurt them (and ourselves)."