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Steelgtr62
October 17th 04, 01:58 AM
From the late Dr Petr Beckmann

The Innovator's Dilemma - When New Technologies Cause Great Firms to Fail by
Clayton M. Christensen, Harvard Business School Press (1997), is a very
perceptive analysis of the dynamics of technological advance - especially the
introduction of radically new products.

Christensen defines two types of technology - "sustaining technology'' and
"disruptive technology.''

Sustaining technology is that with a developed market. In well-managed
companies which supply this technology, the products advance as rapidly as
improvements in science and engineering permit -along the lines desired by the
customers of the company. Managers carefully determine the desires of their
customers and plan engineering development projects to satisfy those customers
as quickly and cost-effectively as possible. These companies develop and infuse
their work force with ethics, procedures, and goals consistent with this
process in their respective industries.

Disruptive technologies, on the other hand, are usually simpler and cheaper
than the sustaining technology, but also offer less capability. They do not fit
the sustaining market and, typically, provide lower profit margins. For this
reason, they are usually shunned by well-managed companies - which are often
later destroyed by them.

Christensen illustrates these ideas with real examples from different
industries including those producing computer disk drives, earth excavators,
motor bikes, insulin for diabetics, and (as an illustration of a possible
future case) automobiles - conventional vs. electric cars.

Figures 1, 2 and 3 (adapted from numerous excellent figures with which his book
is illustrated) show some of his primary ideas.

In Figure 1, the dotted lines represent the range of performance required by
consumers. For example, in disk drives this could be drive capacity, where the
sustaining technology was, at the time, the 5.25 inch disk, while the new
disruptive technology was the 3.5 inch disk.

During the first part of the illustrated time interval, performance of the 5.25
disk satisfies the market, while the capacity of the 3.5 disk is too low. In
the course of time, however, improvements in the 5.25 move its capacity beyond
that desired in the market, while the 3.5 gradually achieves capacity
sufficient to enter the large market.

The critical time is before this happens - when the disruptive technological
innovation cannot yet satisfy the requirements of the mainstream market. During
this time, those who are developing the new technology obtain a great
advantage, so that late entering competitors cannot catch up. At the same time,
the new technology must be marketed for alternative applications (that may not
even be known at the time of its introduction), at low profit margins, and in
relatively minor markets. This makes it unattractive to the mainstream
companies whose customers are not asking for it and whose profits are so large
that the emerging technology would be a nuisance without economic advantage.
Moreover, the mainstream companies are continually striving for innovations
that will increase the capabilities of their product and, thereby, allow them
to enter markets above them where profit



margins are greater - not below them where margins are less.

The result of this phenomenon is that most mainstream companies - even though
they are very well managed, increasing in profits, and very responsive to their
customer's wishes - are unable to adopt disruptive technologies which
eventually drive them out of business. Christensen, by means of real examples,
shows that the most effective strategy is for large companies to start small,
independent companies which they control financially - but not otherwise - to
establish bases in disruptive technologies.



Figure 2, illustrating some of the same points, also shows (illustrating with
computer disk drives) the evolution of a product from a high-margin item to a
commodity.

When the disruptive technology (a smaller disk drive) improves to the point
that its capacity is adequate, competition then shifts to size and then to
reliability. Ultimately, when both technologies have outrun the technological
needs of the market, competition shifts to price alone - a commodity market.

Notice that throughout these steps, the established company must keep
engineering its products downward and competing in markets with decreasing
profit margins - while the disruptive company engineers upward and finds higher
margin markets. This and the lead from early entry assures the demise of the
established company.

The understanding of these phenomena can affect the actual emergence of new
technologies. Science and engineering are not enough. Many wonderful
technological products are not available to us because industrial managers have
not effectively brought them to market.

In a final chapter, Christensen applies these lessons to the electric
automobile. Clearly, as has been discussed in previous issues of Access to
Energy, electric car technology cannot now produce a product that competes with
the internal combustion engine. Is the electric automobile, however, a
disruptive technology? Perhaps. The answer to this question depends upon
whether or not electric cars can reach consumer standards. Figure 3, giving
Christensen's estimates for these standards and the rate of development,
suggests that they will.



Meanwhile, as a beginning disruptive technology, the electric car must seek
alternative markets that will value its disadvantages, and it must enter (and
develop) those markets with a cheap, simple product. These markets will sustain
its development.

One such market suggested by Christensen is the potential for runabouts for
teenagers. Parents might like the idea that their teenagers are driving cars
with low range, poor acceleration, and low maximum speeds. If these cars were
also much cheaper than conventional cars, this market might develop. As far as
government forcing (with reference to California's rule that car companies must
sell 2% electric cars in that state) and subsidies are concerned, Christensen
observes that these merely distort the market and delay technological
development.

What cannot be accomplished is premature entry of the disruptive technology
into the sustaining market. Therefore, for good reasons, automobile companies
are resisting electric cars. Those auto companies that are wise, however,
should set up small autonomous companies to deliver electric car technology to
whoever will buy it for whatever use arises. Then they will be well-positioned
if electric cars do eventually start to disrupt their market.

If instead, the only market entries are forced upon the large auto companies by
government regulation and subsidy, these entrenched malinvestments could
prevent the advance of electric car technology and deprive consumers of a
product that would eventually prove beneficial to them.

Vaughn
October 17th 04, 03:32 PM
"Steelgtr62" > wrote in message
...
>
> Disruptive technologies, on the other hand, are usually simpler and cheaper
> than the sustaining technology, but also offer less capability. They do not
fit
> the sustaining market and, typically, provide lower profit margins. For this
> reason, they are usually shunned by well-managed companies - which are often
> later destroyed by them.

While the start of this thread is obviously a spam, I think that we are
finally seeing some disruptive technology in the GA field. In particular,
flat-panel displays. These will probably dominate the new aircraft market in
the next few years and will certainly push down into the retrofit market as
certification issues are gradually resolved. They are already appearing in the
homebuilt market.

My personal opinion is that these systems are unlikely to last as long as
the airframe in which they are installed, but given their relative cost, ease of
replacement, and the continuous improvement in their capability, we may be able
to live with that.


Vaughn

C J Campbell
October 17th 04, 03:50 PM
"Vaughn" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Steelgtr62" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Disruptive technologies, on the other hand, are usually simpler and
cheaper
> > than the sustaining technology, but also offer less capability. They do
not
> fit
> > the sustaining market and, typically, provide lower profit margins. For
this
> > reason, they are usually shunned by well-managed companies - which are
often
> > later destroyed by them.
>
> While the start of this thread is obviously a spam, I think that we
are
> finally seeing some disruptive technology in the GA field. In particular,
> flat-panel displays. These will probably dominate the new aircraft market
in
> the next few years and will certainly push down into the retrofit market
as
> certification issues are gradually resolved. They are already appearing
in the
> homebuilt market.
>
> My personal opinion is that these systems are unlikely to last as
long as
> the airframe in which they are installed, but given their relative cost,
ease of
> replacement, and the continuous improvement in their capability, we may be
able
> to live with that.

The flat panel displays are likely to last much longer than the items they
replace, however. They are solid state, all electric, have few or no moving
parts, etc. Compare that with traditional attitude indicators, heading
indicators, and turn and bank coordinators. All of these generally require
replacement every few hundred hours, along with vacuum pumps, hoses, clamps,
etc.

Bill Daniels
October 17th 04, 04:15 PM
"C J Campbell" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Vaughn" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Steelgtr62" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > Disruptive technologies, on the other hand, are usually simpler and
> cheaper
> > > than the sustaining technology, but also offer less capability. They
do
> not
> > fit
> > > the sustaining market and, typically, provide lower profit margins.
For
> this
> > > reason, they are usually shunned by well-managed companies - which are
> often
> > > later destroyed by them.
> >
> > While the start of this thread is obviously a spam, I think that we
> are
> > finally seeing some disruptive technology in the GA field. In
particular,
> > flat-panel displays. These will probably dominate the new aircraft
market
> in
> > the next few years and will certainly push down into the retrofit market
> as
> > certification issues are gradually resolved. They are already appearing
> in the
> > homebuilt market.
> >
> > My personal opinion is that these systems are unlikely to last as
> long as
> > the airframe in which they are installed, but given their relative cost,
> ease of
> > replacement, and the continuous improvement in their capability, we may
be
> able
> > to live with that.
>
> The flat panel displays are likely to last much longer than the items they
> replace, however. They are solid state, all electric, have few or no
moving
> parts, etc. Compare that with traditional attitude indicators, heading
> indicators, and turn and bank coordinators. All of these generally require
> replacement every few hundred hours, along with vacuum pumps, hoses,
clamps,
> etc.
>
>

I still have an IBM PC XT that works as well as the day it was bought back
in 1985. It just doesn't do anything useful in today's world. I expect the
"glass cockpits" to be the same. The big power hungry LCD screens will
quickly give way to much lighter and brighter OLED screens and enough
additional useful features will be added to make the old systems obsolete
even if they still work.

I expect to see very light weight glass cockpits installed in Sport Light
Aircraft that would look at home in a 777. If I had an opportunity to buy a
tiny, fast single seater with a 100 HP diesel that was fully IFR capable,
I'd jump at it.

Vaughn
October 17th 04, 04:27 PM
"Bill Daniels" > wrote in message
news:Z%vcd.381390$mD.373163@attbi_s02...
>
> I still have an IBM PC XT that works as well as the day it was bought back
> in 1985. It just doesn't do anything useful in today's world. I expect the
> "glass cockpits" to be the same.

That is precisely my point.

Where I work we have tossed at least three generations of perfectly good
computers over the last ten years. We are now replacing all of our phones with
the new VOIP technology, and I am willing to bet you will not be able to find
one of these units still in service five years from now.

Vaughn

Bill Daniels
October 17th 04, 04:50 PM
"Vaughn" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Bill Daniels" > wrote in message
> news:Z%vcd.381390$mD.373163@attbi_s02...
> >
> > I still have an IBM PC XT that works as well as the day it was bought
back
> > in 1985. It just doesn't do anything useful in today's world. I expect
the
> > "glass cockpits" to be the same.
>
> That is precisely my point.
>
> Where I work we have tossed at least three generations of perfectly
good
> computers over the last ten years. We are now replacing all of our phones
with
> the new VOIP technology, and I am willing to bet you will not be able to
find
> one of these units still in service five years from now.
>
> Vaughn
>
>

I was at the Ralph Barnaby Lecture last night in Denver (About gliders and
soaring presented by Russell Lee, curator at the Smithsonian National Air
and Space Museum ). A lot of the diner table conversation was about the
impending TSA regulations on flight instructors but another topic came up in
relation to the Transportation Safety Administration.

It seems that the government wants to know where every airborne aircraft is
at all times. The FAA of course said "transponders" but it was pointed out
that radar coverage still has large gaps particularly at low altitudes.
(Burt Compton who operates a glider FBO in the west Texas town of Marfa
pointed out that his tow plane transponders almost never blink.) NASA
proposed ADS-B or automatic GPS position reporting. I expect that a variant
of ADS-B will be mandated soon so get ready to yank that old Mode C
transponder.

Bill Daniels

Vaughn
October 17th 04, 05:21 PM
"Bill Daniels" > wrote in message
news:mxwcd.487032$8_6.154356@attbi_s04...
>
> It seems that the government wants to know where every airborne aircraft is
> at all times. The FAA of course said "transponders" but it was pointed out
> that radar coverage still has large gaps particularly at low altitudes.
> (Burt Compton who operates a glider FBO in the west Texas town of Marfa
> pointed out that his tow plane transponders almost never blink.) NASA
> proposed ADS-B or automatic GPS position reporting. I expect that a variant
> of ADS-B will be mandated soon so get ready to yank that old Mode C
> transponder.

That is not "Disruptive Technology", but rather "Disruptive Bureaucracy".
We will all get a vote in a few weeks... Enough said.

Vaughn

Orval Fairbairn
October 17th 04, 09:55 PM
In article >,
"Vaughn" > wrote:

> "Bill Daniels" > wrote in message
> news:mxwcd.487032$8_6.154356@attbi_s04...
> >
> > It seems that the government wants to know where every airborne aircraft is
> > at all times. The FAA of course said "transponders" but it was pointed out
> > that radar coverage still has large gaps particularly at low altitudes.
> > (Burt Compton who operates a glider FBO in the west Texas town of Marfa
> > pointed out that his tow plane transponders almost never blink.) NASA
> > proposed ADS-B or automatic GPS position reporting. I expect that a variant
> > of ADS-B will be mandated soon so get ready to yank that old Mode C
> > transponder.
>
> That is not "Disruptive Technology", but rather "Disruptive Bureaucracy".
> We will all get a vote in a few weeks... Enough said.
>
> Vaughn
>
>
>
>
>

Yes -- but I don't think that it will matter regarding TSA. We have
created a bureaucratic monster, at the behest of BOTH political parties!

Blueskies
October 17th 04, 10:44 PM
"Orval Fairbairn" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Vaughn" > wrote:
>
>> "Bill Daniels" > wrote in message
>> news:mxwcd.487032$8_6.154356@attbi_s04...
>> >
>> > It seems that the government wants to know where every airborne aircraft is
>> > at all times. The FAA of course said "transponders" but it was pointed out
>> > that radar coverage still has large gaps particularly at low altitudes.
>> > (Burt Compton who operates a glider FBO in the west Texas town of Marfa
>> > pointed out that his tow plane transponders almost never blink.) NASA
>> > proposed ADS-B or automatic GPS position reporting. I expect that a variant
>> > of ADS-B will be mandated soon so get ready to yank that old Mode C
>> > transponder.
>>
>> That is not "Disruptive Technology", but rather "Disruptive Bureaucracy".
>> We will all get a vote in a few weeks... Enough said.
>>
>> Vaughn
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Yes -- but I don't think that it will matter regarding TSA. We have
> created a bureaucratic monster, at the behest of BOTH political parties!


Neither one of which is right. The middle will take back control...someday.

Orval Fairbairn
October 18th 04, 01:33 AM
In article >,
"Blueskies" > wrote:

> "Orval Fairbairn" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > "Vaughn" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Bill Daniels" > wrote in message
> >> news:mxwcd.487032$8_6.154356@attbi_s04...
> >> >
> >> > It seems that the government wants to know where every airborne aircraft
> >> > is
> >> > at all times. The FAA of course said "transponders" but it was pointed
> >> > out
> >> > that radar coverage still has large gaps particularly at low altitudes.
> >> > (Burt Compton who operates a glider FBO in the west Texas town of Marfa
> >> > pointed out that his tow plane transponders almost never blink.) NASA
> >> > proposed ADS-B or automatic GPS position reporting. I expect that a
> >> > variant
> >> > of ADS-B will be mandated soon so get ready to yank that old Mode C
> >> > transponder.
> >>
> >> That is not "Disruptive Technology", but rather "Disruptive
> >> Bureaucracy".
> >> We will all get a vote in a few weeks... Enough said.
> >>
> >> Vaughn
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Yes -- but I don't think that it will matter regarding TSA. We have
> > created a bureaucratic monster, at the behest of BOTH political parties!
>
>
> Neither one of which is right. The middle will take back control...someday.


I hope that you are right -- before they destroy us in the process.
Unfortunately, history, in other countries has shown that the middle
doesn't act until it is too late: Russia, post WWI Germany, etc. The
fringes take control of political organizations and run things into the
ground.

Ross Oliver
October 18th 04, 08:47 AM
On 17 Oct 2004 00:58:25 GMT, Steelgtr62 > wrote:
>Meanwhile, as a beginning disruptive technology, the electric car...<snip>


The flaw in your argument is that an electric car is a product,
not a technology. Until a truly a disruptive technological
breakthrough in electrical energy storage is developed, electric
vehicles must suffer only incremental improvements.

Michael
October 18th 04, 09:50 PM
"Bill Daniels" > wrote
> I still have an IBM PC XT that works as well as the day it was bought back
> in 1985. It just doesn't do anything useful in today's world.

There is a Bendix T-12C ADF installed in my airplane. It has been
there for decades and still works as well as it ever did. It just
doesn't do anything useful in today's world.

Well, maybe. In fact it allows me to legally shoot the approach into
my home field. In reality, I shoot it with the panel LORAN and
yokemount GPS - either of which is far more accurate and reliable -
but for the sake of legalities the ADF must be there. In theory I am
supposed to use it as the primary reference, but nobody can prove I
don't.

And thus my point - your IBM PC-XT does nothing useful because the
regulatory climate is quite relaxed in personal computer use. Not so
when it comes to panel-mount avionics in certified aircraft. I fully
expect that the first-generation glass panel displays will still have
significant value a decade from now (and maybe three decades) because
the FAA acts as a massive brake on innovation.

Michael

Steelgtr62
October 18th 04, 10:19 PM
If there were more people flying they would load that brake harder and
eventually it would become politically inexpedient. Look at CB radio, the FCC
decided it wasn't worth the candle.

lou hinshaw
October 24th 04, 07:32 PM
On 18 Oct 2004 13:50:39 -0700,
(Michael) wrote:

>"Bill Daniels" > wrote
>> I still have an IBM PC XT that works as well as the day it was bought back
>> in 1985. It just doesn't do anything useful in today's world.
>
>And thus my point - your IBM PC-XT does nothing useful because the
>regulatory climate is quite relaxed in personal computer use. Not so
>when it comes to panel-mount avionics in certified aircraft. I fully
>expect that the first-generation glass panel displays will still have
>significant value a decade from now (and maybe three decades) because
>the FAA acts as a massive brake on innovation.

Your PC can do a lot. I have found a lot of old DOS software for my
PC on shareware CDs, and not a little at yard sales.

I am seriously thinking about dumping GatesWare Windoze, because his
intent to take over is so well known as to be a joke. I have DOS
galore. You can too. Usefull as all git-out.

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