Europa gone?

[Calvin R. Walker]

Hi,
Is Europa Aircraft still around? Their website is gone and I had heard
there were financial problems. Just curious.

[Paul Lee]

Yeah, its a shame. Seemed like a nice aicraft.

"Calvin R. Walker" > wrote in message >...
> Hi,
> Is Europa Aircraft still around? Their website is gone and I had heard
> there were financial problems. Just curious.

[Matt Whiting]

Paul Lee wrote:

> Yeah, its a shame. Seemed like a nice aicraft.
>
> "Calvin R. Walker" > wrote in message >...
>
>>Hi,
>>Is Europa Aircraft still around? Their website is gone and I had heard
>>there were financial problems. Just curious.

Other than being ugly, it seemed like a decent airplane. Unfortunately,
if one can fly a sleek looking plane that performs as well as the ugly
one, most folks will pick the nice looking one.


Matt

[jls]

"Matt Whiting" > wrote in message
...
> Paul Lee wrote:
>
> > Yeah, its a shame. Seemed like a nice aicraft.
> >
> > "Calvin R. Walker" > wrote in message
>...
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>Is Europa Aircraft still around? Their website is gone and I had heard
> >>there were financial problems. Just curious.
>
> Other than being ugly, it seemed like a decent airplane. Unfortunately,
> if one can fly a sleek looking plane that performs as well as the ugly
> one, most folks will pick the nice looking one.


Such as what?

[Dude]

The europa is likely the best selling kit of all times in europe.

The company did not fail due to unpopularity, or ugliness, of the plane.

You are entitled to your opinion, but pronouncing it as fact will not win
you any points here.



"Matt Whiting" > wrote in message
...
> Paul Lee wrote:
>
>> Yeah, its a shame. Seemed like a nice aicraft.
>>
>> "Calvin R. Walker" > wrote in message
>> >...
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>Is Europa Aircraft still around? Their website is gone and I had heard
>>>there were financial problems. Just curious.
>
> Other than being ugly, it seemed like a decent airplane. Unfortunately,
> if one can fly a sleek looking plane that performs as well as the ugly
> one, most folks will pick the nice looking one.
>
>
> Matt
>

[Matt Whiting]

jls wrote:
> "Matt Whiting" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Paul Lee wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Yeah, its a shame. Seemed like a nice aicraft.
>>>
>>>"Calvin R. Walker" > wrote in message
>
> >...
>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>Is Europa Aircraft still around? Their website is gone and I had heard
>>>>there were financial problems. Just curious.
>>
>>Other than being ugly, it seemed like a decent airplane. Unfortunately,
>>if one can fly a sleek looking plane that performs as well as the ugly
>>one, most folks will pick the nice looking one.
>
>
>
> Such as what?

Lancair, Glasair, Pulsar, RV, etc., depending on your mission.

Matt

[Matt Whiting]

Dude wrote:

> The europa is likely the best selling kit of all times in europe.
>
> The company did not fail due to unpopularity, or ugliness, of the plane.
>
> You are entitled to your opinion, but pronouncing it as fact will not win
> you any points here.

Pretty much everything stated on usenet is opinion. What caused you to
believe otherwise?


Matt

[Dude]

Nice defense, you will get points for that one.

The europa is still not ugly though :)


"Matt Whiting" > wrote in message
...
> Dude wrote:
>
>> The europa is likely the best selling kit of all times in europe.
>>
>> The company did not fail due to unpopularity, or ugliness, of the plane.
>>
>> You are entitled to your opinion, but pronouncing it as fact will not win
>> you any points here.
>
> Pretty much everything stated on usenet is opinion. What caused you to
> believe otherwise?
>
>
> Matt
>

[Matt Whiting]

Dude wrote:
> Nice defense, you will get points for that one.
>
> The europa is still not ugly though :)

It is to me, especially the curve of the lower part of the windshield.
It makes the airplane look bulbous rather than sleek. Look at a Falco
to see a nice looking airplane!

Matt

[Dude]

Oh sure, pull out the Falco.

I suppose you could compare my wife to Penelope Cruz, but I wouldn't let her
hear about it if I were you.



"Matt Whiting" > wrote in message
...
> Dude wrote:
>> Nice defense, you will get points for that one.
>>
>> The europa is still not ugly though :)
>
> It is to me, especially the curve of the lower part of the windshield. It
> makes the airplane look bulbous rather than sleek. Look at a Falco to see
> a nice looking airplane!
>
> Matt
>

[Matt Whiting]

Dude wrote:

> Oh sure, pull out the Falco.

:-)

> I suppose you could compare my wife to Penelope Cruz, but I wouldn't let her
> hear about it if I were you.

Well, I can't speak regarding your wife, but since I called the Europa
ugly, I thought I should provide a reference as to what I consider to be
not ugly!

Matt

[Steve Neale]

The Europa is not gone.

The old company went bust owing customers parts and creditors a hill of
cash. See the Europa builders club links below for information on the new UK
company that has taken over production

http://www.europaclub.org.uk/club/news.shtml
http://www.europaclub.org.uk/club/Europa_Aircraft_(2004)_Ltd.doc

Steve

"Paul Lee" > wrote in message
om...
> Yeah, its a shame. Seemed like a nice aicraft.
>
> "Calvin R. Walker" > wrote in message
>...
> > Hi,
> > Is Europa Aircraft still around? Their website is gone and I had heard
> > there were financial problems. Just curious.

[Paul Lee]

Matt Whiting > wrote in message >...
> ...................... Unfortunately,
> >>if one can fly a sleek looking plane that performs as well as the ugly
> >>one, most folks will pick the nice looking one.
> >
> >
> >
> > Such as what?
>
> Lancair, Glasair, Pulsar, RV, etc., depending on your mission.
>
> Matt

I think you should have a price/performance/fueleconomy comparison. Besides,
I did not see the Europa as ugly at all.

[Calvin Walker]

Glad to hear that Europa is still around in some form. Will they market
the kits in North America or just concentrate on Europe?

Steve Neale wrote:
> The Europa is not gone.
>
> The old company went bust owing customers parts and creditors a hill of
> cash. See the Europa builders club links below for information on the new UK
> company that has taken over production
>
> http://www.europaclub.org.uk/club/news.shtml
> http://www.europaclub.org.uk/club/Europa_Aircraft_(2004)_Ltd.doc
>
> Steve
>
> "Paul Lee" > wrote in message
> om...
>
>>Yeah, its a shame. Seemed like a nice aicraft.
>>
>>"Calvin R. Walker" > wrote in message
>
> >...
>
>>>Hi,
>>>Is Europa Aircraft still around? Their website is gone and I had heard
>>>there were financial problems. Just curious.
>
>
>
>

[Bruce]

Steve Neale wrote:
> The Europa is not gone.
>
> The old company went bust owing customers parts and creditors a hill of
> cash. See the Europa builders club links below for information on the new UK
> company that has taken over production
>
> http://www.europaclub.org.uk/club/news.shtml
> http://www.europaclub.org.uk/club/Europa_Aircraft_(2004)_Ltd.doc
>
> Steve
>
> "Paul Lee" > wrote in message
> om...
>
>>Yeah, its a shame. Seemed like a nice aicraft.
>>
>>"Calvin R. Walker" > wrote in message
>
> >...
>
>>>Hi,
>>>Is Europa Aircraft still around? Their website is gone and I had heard
>>>there were financial problems. Just curious.
>
>
>
>
As ever the surest way to make a small fortune in aviation is to start with a
large one.

Nice plane, versatile. If you thought it ungainly you should look at the Scheibe
MotorFalkes it competes against in it's long wings guise.