Oudie 2 profile examples

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Been playing around with my Oudie 2, and the options to set the map and navigation boxes almost seem infinitesimal. I've tried searching for templates and/or examples that others have created, but not much luck. I prefer a clutterless map, but can't decide on the choice of boxes.

How have you configured the 2 maps? I would love to see examples and what the consensus is. Thanks,

Paul

[Tim Taylor]

On Friday, December 4, 2020 at 6:00:08 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> Been playing around with my Oudie 2, and the options to set the map and navigation boxes almost seem infinitesimal. I've tried searching for templates and/or examples that others have created, but not much luck. I prefer a clutterless map, but can't decide on the choice of boxes.
>
> How have you configured the 2 maps? I would love to see examples and what the consensus is. Thanks,
>
> Paul
Their is no consensus. It all comes down to personal preference and mission. I have the two windows configured for very different missions. My main window is configured for racing to give me maximum information to allow me to make good tactical decisions. That window is nearly half full of nav boxes. The second window is designed for survival mode. It gives me maximum information to stay in the air, reach the nearest airport, or land safely in a field.

SeeYou Mobile is infinitely customizable, best is just to play with it and see what you like. If you have specific questions of what you want to see I am glad to provide help. Several ways to start is to make a list of what information you want or go through the list of boxes with the manual and make a list of those that you would like to try.

[Michael Bamberg]

Paul,

I spent many hours working up a profile for my Craggy Ultimate. I got it to a nice usable (for me) state before I reverted to an XCSoar device. In both cases I think a good process to use starts with reviewing the stages of your flight, however you want to slice it, and then asking "What do I want to know in this stage of my flight?". You'll find that for some data, you always want it, it needs to be always available.

As Tim mentioned, if you're a racer you may want to set up two different "Pages" in the Oudie for two very different situations. (You can make an Info Box an active button that can switch from page to page).

I could go on, but as noted you need to just work through the manual and try some stuff out. I've found that for each of the various flight computers there is a fairly steep learning curve. This is due, I think, to both the complexity and flexibility of these devices, as well as the personal needs of the pilot.

Mike

[John DeRosa OHM Ω http://aviation.derosaweb.net]

Loved my old Oudie. A few quick Oudie profile comments;

- It isn't a very good idea to play with nav boxes while in the air ... especially so while bouncing around in gliders. To me the easiest way to troubleshoot what boxes I wanted was to use the Oudie in an automobile while navigating to some turnpoint airport, i.e. to/from home and my gliderport. Then I could safely pull over to the side of the road, fiddle with what I wanted, and then drive some more.

- When experimenting I suggest that you first make a copy of your current profile "just in case". When making lots of changes you can rapidly screw things up and be unable to remember how you got there and how to get back. I tended to start the season with a fresh copy of my profile. I named the new profile with at least the date. I also would copy my current base profile to make it specific to where I was flying (contest, safari, etc). Things like turnpoint/SUA databases, aircraft polar, terrain colors on or off, etc.

- Backups. Connecting the Oudie to your computer via a USB cable will mount it like a memory stick. You can then make backups of all the contents "just in case". Profiles are important in particular. It is also the easiest way to jump start a new owner by giving him my profile. My (very old) Oudie profiles can be found at http://aviation.derosaweb.net/Oudie/backups/ - I kept them online "just in case". Allowed me to rebuild a replacement Oudie or even borrow someone else's if necessary without screwing it up.

My $0.02.

- John OHM

PS - I think Paul meant "infinite" not "infinitesimal". I once mistakenly typed "not" instead of "now" at work and totally inverted the meaning of my sentence. Yep, nothing got done that day. Damn spell checkers.

[krasw]

Seeing dozens and dozens of Oudie users from beginners to top competition pilots, disturbing fact is that over half of them use factory default profile. Same thing with brand new 300k gliders with most expensive panel avionics: everything in default settings and some pilots hardly know how to switch variometer from thermal to cruise mode.

[Nicholas Kennedy]

Paul
I've been a SeeYou mobile user form the start.
On page 1 I set up the nav boxes for cruising, whether it be a racing task or a OLC day.
On page 2 I make sure I have my Track function turned on and have the zoom set to .5 mile.
When I start to thermal I switch to this page and my circles show up and I can see the drift and the strong areas. Color code this track and you can see the stong areas easily.
I personally don't use the graphic Thermal maximizer, but I do use the "Bell" audio function of the thermal maximizer that rings 4 secs before you hit the strong point of your 360.
As Tango Tango mentioned, SYM has ALOT of options, learned most of them sitting in my chair watching TV with the current manuel nearby. Take your time, it will take many sessions to learn all the options, but well worth it!
If your trying for OLC points make sure to turn the OLC track function on as at the end of the day you need to " Close your triangle" If can see the start of your OLC track its easy to CTT.
There is a tutorial out there on the internet on setting up SYM, I'll try and find it and post the link.
Nick
T

[India November[_2_]]

On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 9:33:52 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> Paul
> I've been a SeeYou mobile user form the start.
> On page 1 I set up the nav boxes for cruising, whether it be a racing task or a OLC day.
> On page 2 I make sure I have my Track function turned on and have the zoom set to .5 mile.
> When I start to thermal I switch to this page and my circles show up and I can see the drift and the strong areas. Color code this track and you can see the stong areas easily.
> I personally don't use the graphic Thermal maximizer, but I do use the "Bell" audio function of the thermal maximizer that rings 4 secs before you hit the strong point of your 360.
> As Tango Tango mentioned, SYM has ALOT of options, learned most of them sitting in my chair watching TV with the current manuel nearby. Take your time, it will take many sessions to learn all the options, but well worth it!
> If your trying for OLC points make sure to turn the OLC track function on as at the end of the day you need to " Close your triangle" If can see the start of your OLC track its easy to CTT.
> There is a tutorial out there on the internet on setting up SYM, I'll try and find it and post the link.
> Nick
> T

A couple of years ago I changed to an Oudie and SYM from my previous setup with Winpilot on a PDA. I found flying Condor and driving the Oudie with the simulated NMEA out was a great (and safe) way to learn the software and set it up to your preferences.

Ian IN

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On Friday, December 4, 2020 at 9:39:53 PM UTC-5, Tim Taylor wrote:
> On Friday, December 4, 2020 at 6:00:08 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> > Been playing around with my Oudie 2, and the options to set the map and navigation boxes almost seem infinitesimal. I've tried searching for templates and/or examples that others have created, but not much luck. I prefer a clutterless map, but can't decide on the choice of boxes.
> >
> > How have you configured the 2 maps? I would love to see examples and what the consensus is. Thanks,
> >
> > Paul
> Their is no consensus. It all comes down to personal preference and mission. I have the two windows configured for very different missions. My main window is configured for racing to give me maximum information to allow me to make good tactical decisions. That window is nearly half full of nav boxes. The second window is designed for survival mode. It gives me maximum information to stay in the air, reach the nearest airport, or land safely in a field.
>
> SeeYou Mobile is infinitely customizable, best is just to play with it and see what you like. If you have specific questions of what you want to see I am glad to provide help. Several ways to start is to make a list of what information you want or go through the list of boxes with the manual and make a list of those that you would like to try.

Thanks Tim. I've playing with it for days now, and I have different profiles made for the club ships I fly, all the same with the exception of the polars. I like the idea of making map 2 a "survival mode" map.

Paul

[[email protected]]

On Friday, December 4, 2020 at 10:45:22 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> Paul,
>
> I spent many hours working up a profile for my Craggy Ultimate. I got it to a nice usable (for me) state before I reverted to an XCSoar device. In both cases I think a good process to use starts with reviewing the stages of your flight, however you want to slice it, and then asking "What do I want to know in this stage of my flight?". You'll find that for some data, you always want it, it needs to be always available.
>
> As Tim mentioned, if you're a racer you may want to set up two different "Pages" in the Oudie for two very different situations. (You can make an Info Box an active button that can switch from page to page).
>
> I could go on, but as noted you need to just work through the manual and try some stuff out. I've found that for each of the various flight computers there is a fairly steep learning curve. This is due, I think, to both the complexity and flexibility of these devices, as well as the personal needs of the pilot.
>
> Mike

Mike, I did create a an active button so I can quickly change from map 1 to map 2. I'll continue playing with it. Thanks,

Paul

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On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 1:13:09 AM UTC-5, John DeRosa OHM Ω http://aviation.derosaweb.net wrote:
> Loved my old Oudie. A few quick Oudie profile comments;
>
> - It isn't a very good idea to play with nav boxes while in the air ... especially so while bouncing around in gliders. To me the easiest way to troubleshoot what boxes I wanted was to use the Oudie in an automobile while navigating to some turnpoint airport, i.e. to/from home and my gliderport. Then I could safely pull over to the side of the road, fiddle with what I wanted, and then drive some more.
>
> - When experimenting I suggest that you first make a copy of your current profile "just in case". When making lots of changes you can rapidly screw things up and be unable to remember how you got there and how to get back. I tended to start the season with a fresh copy of my profile. I named the new profile with at least the date. I also would copy my current base profile to make it specific to where I was flying (contest, safari, etc). Things like turnpoint/SUA databases, aircraft polar, terrain colors on or off, etc..
>
> - Backups. Connecting the Oudie to your computer via a USB cable will mount it like a memory stick. You can then make backups of all the contents "just in case". Profiles are important in particular. It is also the easiest way to jump start a new owner by giving him my profile. My (very old) Oudie profiles can be found at http://aviation.derosaweb.net/Oudie/backups/ - I kept them online "just in case". Allowed me to rebuild a replacement Oudie or even borrow someone else's if necessary without screwing it up.
>
> My $0.02.
>
> - John OHM
>
> PS - I think Paul meant "infinite" not "infinitesimal". I once mistakenly typed "not" instead of "now" at work and totally inverted the meaning of my sentence. Yep, nothing got done that day. Damn spell checkers.

Thanks John, and yes, spell checkers are entertaining :). I tried going to your link, but it doesn't work. I'll continue playing with it while on the ground.

Paul

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On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 3:14:10 AM UTC-5, krasw wrote:
> Seeing dozens and dozens of Oudie users from beginners to top competition pilots, disturbing fact is that over half of them use factory default profile. Same thing with brand new 300k gliders with most expensive panel avionics: everything in default settings and some pilots hardly know how to switch variometer from thermal to cruise mode.

LOL, I have to agree. I have friends that don't even know how to operate tech inside their cars! The first thing I do when I purchase " electronic toys" is to make sure I know everything about them.

Paul

[[email protected]]

On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 9:33:52 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> Paul
> I've been a SeeYou mobile user form the start.
> On page 1 I set up the nav boxes for cruising, whether it be a racing task or a OLC day.
> On page 2 I make sure I have my Track function turned on and have the zoom set to .5 mile.
> When I start to thermal I switch to this page and my circles show up and I can see the drift and the strong areas. Color code this track and you can see the stong areas easily.
> I personally don't use the graphic Thermal maximizer, but I do use the "Bell" audio function of the thermal maximizer that rings 4 secs before you hit the strong point of your 360.
> As Tango Tango mentioned, SYM has ALOT of options, learned most of them sitting in my chair watching TV with the current manuel nearby. Take your time, it will take many sessions to learn all the options, but well worth it!
> If your trying for OLC points make sure to turn the OLC track function on as at the end of the day you need to " Close your triangle" If can see the start of your OLC track its easy to CTT.
> There is a tutorial out there on the internet on setting up SYM, I'll try and find it and post the link.
> Nick
> T

I like the idea of the "bell" function; going to try it for the next time I go up. I've tried searching for a tutorial with examples, but I didn't come up with anything.

Thanks,

[waremark]

Some people like having different data sets, designed for different stages of flight, on Map 1 and Map 2. Personally, I have all the same navboxes that I have on Map 1 in the same place on Map 2, but I also have additional navboxes on Map 2. I find it confusing to have different info in the same place.

I keep Map 2 zoomed in, and Map 1 zoomed out.

I have most of my Navboxes in a block, using 2 line rather than 3 line navboxes to save space. I have key items such as turn left/turn right at the top without a box.

If a friend has a setup you like, you can copy the profile file and just change the polar and logger settings as required.

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On Tuesday, December 8, 2020 at 6:42:46 PM UTC-5, waremark wrote:
> Some people like having different data sets, designed for different stages of flight, on Map 1 and Map 2. Personally, I have all the same navboxes that I have on Map 1 in the same place on Map 2, but I also have additional navboxes on Map 2. I find it confusing to have different info in the same place.
>
> I keep Map 2 zoomed in, and Map 1 zoomed out.
>
> I have most of my Navboxes in a block, using 2 line rather than 3 line navboxes to save space. I have key items such as turn left/turn right at the top without a box.
>
> If a friend has a setup you like, you can copy the profile file and just change the polar and logger settings as required.

That's how I have it set up now. Map 1 and 2 are equal, except map 2 I have it at 10 nm, and map 1 at 1 nm. I am going to experiment by changing the navbox of map 2 to always show the nearest landing area, and keeping the same zoom level; don't know if that is possible, but will try it later.

Paul