Weglide.org

[pavel skrabal]

Looks like new interesting project for storing IGC flights. I think prehistoric OLC needs some fresh blood competition. WiFi download of flights straight from LX computers again this summer?

[Tony[_7_]]

On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 12:06:37 PM UTC-5, pavel skrabal wrote:
> Looks like new interesting project for storing IGC flights. I think prehistoric OLC needs some fresh blood competition. WiFi download of flights straight from LX computers again this summer?
Too bad FAI doesn't host something...let's have 27 other venues instead!?

[Eric Greenwell[_4_]]

pavel skrabal wrote on 1/20/2021 9:06 AM:
> Looks like new interesting project for storing IGC flights. I think prehistoric OLC needs some fresh blood competition. WiFi download of flights straight from LX computers again this summer?
>
The presentation is very good, and I prefer it to the OLC presentation, but I think a bigger
issue is we have too many places to send IGC files. I wish the sites would coordinate, so a
flight posted on one would automatically post on the others, at the selection of the pilot.
Perhaps, this could accomplished with a web site that accepts a flight log, then automatically
uploads it to other sites that pilot has selected. That way, a pilot could make a single
posting the goes to, say, four flight display sites. This might also fix the LXNav posting
issue to OLC.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications/download-the-guide-1

[[email protected]]

On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 11:02:48 PM UTC+1, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> Perhaps, this could accomplished with a web site that accepts a flight log, then automatically
> uploads it to other sites that pilot has selected.

Automatic flight registration is an avenue I'm exploring using https://skyhop.org. What's there now is a proof of concept showing that the concept is feasible, while I'm currently working on a version 2 which should make the application itself more flexible and more broadly applicable (including flight logging, records, exports, and student administration).

Would love for you guys to check it out! Let me know if you have any feedback!

Cheers,
Corstian

[Aldo Cernezzi]

WeGlide has been chosen and promoted by the German NAC (DAeC) as the platform of choice for this year's decentralized championship. That says something about its potential development. We'll see if it gains momentum.

Aldo Cernezzi
www.voloavela.it

[D S]

On Saturday, January 23, 2021 at 8:35:43 AM UTC-7, Aldo Cernezzi wrote:
> WeGlide has been chosen and promoted by the German NAC (DAeC) as the platform of choice for this year's decentralized championship. That says something about its potential development. We'll see if it gains momentum.
>
> Aldo Cernezzi
> www.voloavela.it

When I go to the website it says that they aren't done yet and don't have anything to share with users. So why was it 'chosen' as the platform of choice? As far as I can tell it isn't a platform yet, just a marketing site.

[krasw]

On Saturday, 23 January 2021 at 17:35:43 UTC+2, Aldo Cernezzi wrote:
> WeGlide has been chosen and promoted by the German NAC (DAeC) as the platform of choice for this year's decentralized championship. That says something about its potential development. We'll see if it gains momentum.
>
> Aldo Cernezzi
> www.voloavela.it

Germans have two different associations for glider pilots and now two different online platforms I guess?

[swinkelj]

Op maandag 25 januari 2021 om 16:34:30 UTC+1 schreef krasw:
> On Saturday, 23 January 2021 at 17:35:43 UTC+2, Aldo Cernezzi wrote:
> > WeGlide has been chosen and promoted by the German NAC (DAeC) as the platform of choice for this year's decentralized championship. That says something about its potential development. We'll see if it gains momentum.
> >
> > Aldo Cernezzi
> > www.voloavela.it
> Germans have two different associations for glider pilots and now two different online platforms I guess?

https://beta.weglide.org/

[Tom BravoMike]

In the sign-up form there are three options: Male - Female - Other. WOW! How progressive! HURRAH! The sport of soaring will thrive from now on. It is very crucial to know how many "Other" gender pilots there are so that we can start preparing for World Other Soaring Championships (after we are done with Covid). Or are we talking about interplanetary contests? Martians? Alpha Centauri citizens? The beauty of the political correctness ...

[MNLou]

On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 11:52:28 AM UTC-6, Tom BravoMike wrote:
> In the sign-up form there are three options: Male - Female - Other. WOW! How progressive! HURRAH! The sport of soaring will thrive from now on. It is very crucial to know how many "Other" gender pilots there are so that we can start preparing for World Other Soaring Championships (after we are done with Covid). Or are we talking about interplanetary contests? Martians? Alpha Centauri citizens? The beauty of the political correctness ...

Welcome to the 21st century TBM. I hope it continues to be a learning process for you.

Lou

[Moshe Braner]

On 1/25/2021 1:59 PM, MNLou wrote:
> On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 11:52:28 AM UTC-6, Tom BravoMike wrote:
>> In the sign-up form there are three options: Male - Female - Other. WOW! How progressive! HURRAH! The sport of soaring will thrive from now on. It is very crucial to know how many "Other" gender pilots there are so that we can start preparing for World Other Soaring Championships (after we are done with Covid). Or are we talking about interplanetary contests? Martians? Alpha Centauri citizens? The beauty of the political correctness ...
>
> Welcome to the 21st century TBM. I hope it continues to be a learning process for you.
>
> Lou
>

Pray tell me, in the 21st century, why does the sign-up form ask about
this in the first place?

[Bret Hess]

skylines.aero is integrating with the weglide platform in some way. You can see the developments at https://github.com/skylines-project/skylines/search?q=weglide&type=commits

[Dan Marotta]

On 1/25/21 10:42 PM, Bret Hess wrote:
> skylines.aero is integrating with the weglide platform in some way. You can see the developments at https://github.com/skylines-project/skylines/search?q=weglide&type=commits
>

Upon posting my last flight to Skylines, I noticed a check box to also
post my flight on weglide. I left it blank. I use Skylines to get the
stats for my logbook so what's in it for me to use another website?

--
Dan
5J

[Eric Greenwell[_4_]]

Dan Marotta wrote on 1/26/2021 7:56 AM:
> On 1/25/21 10:42 PM, Bret Hess wrote:
>> skylines.aero is integrating with the weglide platform in some way.*** You can see the
>> developments at https://github.com/skylines-project/skylines/search?q=weglide&type=commits
>>
>
> Upon posting my last flight to Skylines, I noticed a check box to also post my flight on
> weglide.* I left it blank. I use Skylines to get the stats for my logbook so what's in it for
> me to use another website?
>
Do you care about sharing your flight with others? If not, then "nothing". Sharing is the major
reason I use the OLC; the logbook data is irrelevant to me, as I know what it is before I get
out of the glider.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications/download-the-guide-1

[AS]

On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 10:56:57 AM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:
> On 1/25/21 10:42 PM, Bret Hess wrote:
> > skylines.aero is integrating with the weglide platform in some way. You can see the developments at https://github.com/skylines-project/skylines/search?q=weglide&type=commits
> >
> Upon posting my last flight to Skylines, I noticed a check box to also
> post my flight on weglide. I left it blank. I use Skylines to get the
> stats for my logbook so what's in it for me to use another website?
>
> --
> Dan
> 5J

>> ... so what's in it for me to use another website? <<
Nothing for you other than increasing your online footprint and giving some marketing company one more piece of the puzzle that makes up you so they can blast you with even more custom-tailored advertisement or even steal your identity.
Shoot - where did I leave my tinfoil hat .... ? ;-)

Uli
'AS'

[Ramy[_2_]]

Yet another online flight sharing tool without logbook capability, at least not yet.
I hope they planning to provide online logbook capability, with summary, stats etc, in proper format to be exported and printed.
the only one which had this capability was the paid subscription of crosscountry.aero but it is no longer working.
Skylines does not provide this functionality.
OLC does but it does not include all important parameters and does not provide summary and statistics, and the flight time is actually logger time and not flight time.
not sure why it is so difficult to included a proper electronic logbook so one does not need to use excel or, god forbid, a paper logbook...

Ramy

On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 8:35:16 AM UTC-8, AS wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 10:56:57 AM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:
> > On 1/25/21 10:42 PM, Bret Hess wrote:
> > > skylines.aero is integrating with the weglide platform in some way. You can see the developments at https://github.com/skylines-project/skylines/search?q=weglide&type=commits
> > >
> > Upon posting my last flight to Skylines, I noticed a check box to also
> > post my flight on weglide. I left it blank. I use Skylines to get the
> > stats for my logbook so what's in it for me to use another website?
> >
> > --
> > Dan
> > 5J
> >> ... so what's in it for me to use another website? <<
> Nothing for you other than increasing your online footprint and giving some marketing company one more piece of the puzzle that makes up you so they can blast you with even more custom-tailored advertisement or even steal your identity.
> Shoot - where did I leave my tinfoil hat .... ? ;-)
>
> Uli
> 'AS'

[krasw]

Yes why not angrily complain about missing feature in service that is free and barely at beta stage.

[Ramy[_2_]]

On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 10:49:35 PM UTC-8, krasw wrote:
> Yes why not angrily complain about missing feature in service that is free and barely at beta stage.
Not angry. Actually the “complain� is more towards the existing services and towards pilots for lack of requests for logbook support, and perhaps start a discussion on this so hopefully Weglide and others will listen. I am curious what other pilots using for electronic logbook to log all the important parameters of flights (duration, distance, altitude, takeoff, landing:etc) without having to manually enter the data. It should be in a format that can be downloaded to excel and printed so it can be used as official logbook.

Ramy

[krasw]

On Saturday, 30 January 2021 at 02:34:21 UTC+2, Ramy wrote:
> On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 10:49:35 PM UTC-8, krasw wrote:
> > Yes why not angrily complain about missing feature in service that is free and barely at beta stage.
> Not angry. Actually the “complain� is more towards the existing services and towards pilots for lack of requests for logbook support, and perhaps start a discussion on this so hopefully Weglide and others will listen. I am curious what other pilots using for electronic logbook to log all the important parameters of flights (duration, distance, altitude, takeoff, landing:etc) without having to manually enter the data. It should be in a format that can be downloaded to excel and printed so it can be used as official logbook.
>
> Ramy

Sounds like you need a ktrax logbook subscription. No flight download needed, it creates logs from OGN data.

[Moshe Braner]

On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 5:02:48 PM UTC-5, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> pavel skrabal wrote on 1/20/2021 9:06 AM:
> > Looks like new interesting project for storing IGC flights. I think prehistoric OLC needs some fresh blood competition. WiFi download of flights straight from LX computers again this summer?
> >
> The presentation is very good, and I prefer it to the OLC presentation, but I think a bigger
> issue is we have too many places to send IGC files. I wish the sites would coordinate, so a
> flight posted on one would automatically post on the others, at the selection of the pilot.
> Perhaps, this could accomplished with a web site that accepts a flight log, then automatically
> uploads it to other sites that pilot has selected. That way, a pilot could make a single
> posting the goes to, say, four flight display sites. This might also fix the LXNav posting
> issue to OLC.
>
> --
> Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
> - "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
> https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications/download-the-guide-1

I am trying out WeGlide this season. Had my first flight yesterday. Posted my flight log to WeGlide last night. About 18 hours later I got an email from OLC Result Notifier about the same flight. How did that happen? I didn't post my flight to OLC, only to WeGlide. Are OLC copying flights from WeGlide to keep themselves looking relevant? Or are WeGlide uploading to OLC too?

[Moshe Braner]

On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 4:22:40 PM UTC-4, Moshe Braner wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 5:02:48 PM UTC-5, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> > pavel skrabal wrote on 1/20/2021 9:06 AM:
> > > Looks like new interesting project for storing IGC flights. I think prehistoric OLC needs some fresh blood competition. WiFi download of flights straight from LX computers again this summer?
> > >
> > The presentation is very good, and I prefer it to the OLC presentation, but I think a bigger
> > issue is we have too many places to send IGC files. I wish the sites would coordinate, so a
> > flight posted on one would automatically post on the others, at the selection of the pilot.
> > Perhaps, this could accomplished with a web site that accepts a flight log, then automatically
> > uploads it to other sites that pilot has selected. That way, a pilot could make a single
> > posting the goes to, say, four flight display sites. This might also fix the LXNav posting
> > issue to OLC.
> >
> > --
> > Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
> > - "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
> > https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications/download-the-guide-1
> I am trying out WeGlide this season. Had my first flight yesterday. Posted my flight log to WeGlide last night. About 18 hours later I got an email from OLC Result Notifier about the same flight. How did that happen? I didn't post my flight to OLC, only to WeGlide. Are OLC copying flights from WeGlide to keep themselves looking relevant? Or are WeGlide uploading to OLC too?

Funny. Now (an hour after I posted the above here) my flight has vanished from OLC. No I don't think I was hallucinating :-)

[Andreas Maurer[_2_]]

On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 14:58:35 -0700 (PDT), Moshe Braner
> wrote:

>Funny. Now (an hour after I posted the above here) my flight has vanished from OLC. No I don't think I was hallucinating :-)

Think twice. ;)
WeGlide and OLC are two completey different organizations, and there
is definitely no file exchange.

Did you upload your flight with your LX flight computer by any chance?
Since this year (and the appearance of WeGlide as a strong competitor)
OLC has enabled this funktion again.


Cheers
Andreas

[Moshe Braner]

On 4/19/2021 1:40 PM, Andreas Maurer wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 14:58:35 -0700 (PDT), Moshe Braner
> > wrote:
>
>> Funny. Now (an hour after I posted the above here) my flight has vanished from OLC. No I don't think I was hallucinating :-)
>
> Think twice. ;)
> WeGlide and OLC are two completey different organizations, and there
> is definitely no file exchange.
>
> Did you upload your flight with your LX flight computer by any chance?
> Since this year (and the appearance of WeGlide as a strong competitor)
> OLC has enabled this funktion again.
>
>
> Cheers
> Andreas

I got the file from my Nook that was connected to my FLARM in the
glider. And I uploaded the file manually from a PC to WeGlide only. On
purpose, since I am trying that system out now, and told my clubmates to
look for my flights there and not on OLC. It took another 18 hours or
so to somehow show up on OLC. And it disappeared from OLC shortly after
I mentioned that here, with no action on my part.

Yes they are completely different organizations, that is the point.
WeGlide allows (AFAIK) unlimited downloading of any posted flight logs,
by anybody, without a login. So it is possible for a competing
organization to copy and post the same flight logs.

[Andreas Maurer[_2_]]

On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 13:52:52 -0400, Moshe Braner
> wrote:

>I got the file from my Nook that was connected to my FLARM in the
>glider. And I uploaded the file manually from a PC to WeGlide only. On
>purpose, since I am trying that system out now, and told my clubmates to
>look for my flights there and not on OLC. It took another 18 hours or
>so to somehow show up on OLC. And it disappeared from OLC shortly after
>I mentioned that here, with no action on my part.


I haven't tried it yet, but I suppose it's possible to download an IGC
file from WeGlide and upload it to OLC... looks like someone did that,
possibly just to test something.


>Yes they are completely different organizations, that is the point.
>WeGlide allows (AFAIK) unlimited downloading of any posted flight logs,
>by anybody, without a login. So it is possible for a competing
>organization to copy and post the same flight logs.

I am extremely sure that WeGlide is the future.

In Germany now after only four weeks of regular operations the number
of flights uploaded to WeGlide equals the number in OLC, and there are
so many easily accessible stories and pictures each day that - to me
at least! - WeGlide is a completely new and incredibly exciting
experience to "feel" the flights of others.

https://weglide.org/flights?scoring_date=2021-04-17&order_by=-points

I dare to predict that at least in Germany OLC will be redundant after
this summer, and I'd love to see the rest of the World adopt WeGlide,
too.

[krasw]

On Tuesday, 20 April 2021 at 13:01:54 UTC+3, Andreas Maurer wrote:
> I dare to predict that at least in Germany OLC will be redundant after
> this summer, and I'd love to see the rest of the World adopt WeGlide,
> too.

Why? We are missing the story behind this. OLC has committed some crime against German pilots?

[Matthew Scutter]

On Wednesday, April 21, 2021 at 7:28:51 PM UTC+10, krasw wrote:
> On Tuesday, 20 April 2021 at 13:01:54 UTC+3, Andreas Maurer wrote:
> > I dare to predict that at least in Germany OLC will be redundant after
> > this summer, and I'd love to see the rest of the World adopt WeGlide,
> > too.
> Why? We are missing the story behind this. OLC has committed some crime against German pilots?

The decentralized competition in Germany (DMS-t) contracted WeGlide this year, instead of the OLC as was tradition. I know two other countries that will also be strongly considering moving their decentralized competitions this year.
Many pilots only upload their flights to be scored in these contests.

Aside from that, I think the disabling of uploads from LX9000 devices lost the OLC a lot of goodwill against the large base of LX device owners too.

[Andreas Maurer[_2_]]

On Wed, 21 Apr 2021 02:28:49 -0700 (PDT), krasw
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, 20 April 2021 at 13:01:54 UTC+3, Andreas Maurer wrote:
>> I dare to predict that at least in Germany OLC will be redundant after
>> this summer, and I'd love to see the rest of the World adopt WeGlide,
>> too.
>
>Why? We are missing the story behind this. OLC has committed some crime against German pilots?

Let me put it like this:
Certain decisions in the last ten years have been... most unfortunate
and have left the impression that OLC is tailored to a certain small
group of people who benefit from rules thast were implemented in the
last years.

Combined with a complete lack of unresponsiveness and a completely
outdated technical base that is getting worse each year, people seem
to have been waiting for a modern platform like WeGlide.

[Andreas Maurer[_2_]]

On Wed, 21 Apr 2021 15:52:36 +0200, Andreas Maurer
> wrote:


>Combined with a complete lack of unresponsiveness and a completely
>outdated technical base that is getting worse each year, people seem
>to have been waiting for a modern platform like WeGlide.

Ooops... typo.

Correct version:
Combined with a complete lack of response...

[Dan Marotta]

To add to Andreas' statement:

I reached out to RAS earlier this morning about a difficulty logging in
to weglide. Weglide responded to me WITHIN AN HOUR and my problem was
solved. Now that's responsiveness! I've had the same experience with
Matthew and Skysight.

Dan
5J

On 4/21/21 7:54 AM, Andreas Maurer wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Apr 2021 15:52:36 +0200, Andreas Maurer
> > wrote:
>
>
>> Combined with a complete lack of unresponsiveness and a completely
>> outdated technical base that is getting worse each year, people seem
>> to have been waiting for a modern platform like WeGlide.
>
> Ooops... typo.
>
> Correct version:
> Combined with a complete lack of response...
>

[krasw]

Fair enough, though I have received response from OLC every time I've had a problem.

[Ramy[_2_]]

This will be perfect if submitting to weglide automatically relays to OLC (with your permission). This is something I was asking for a long time, to have an option to submit to multiple services at the same time.

Ramy

On Monday, April 19, 2021 at 10:50:57 AM UTC-7, Moshe Braner wrote:
> On 4/19/2021 1:40 PM, Andreas Maurer wrote:
> > On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 14:58:35 -0700 (PDT), Moshe Braner
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Funny. Now (an hour after I posted the above here) my flight has vanished from OLC. No I don't think I was hallucinating :-)
> >
> > Think twice. ;)
> > WeGlide and OLC are two completey different organizations, and there
> > is definitely no file exchange.
> >
> > Did you upload your flight with your LX flight computer by any chance?
> > Since this year (and the appearance of WeGlide as a strong competitor)
> > OLC has enabled this funktion again.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > Andreas
> I got the file from my Nook that was connected to my FLARM in the
> glider. And I uploaded the file manually from a PC to WeGlide only. On
> purpose, since I am trying that system out now, and told my clubmates to
> look for my flights there and not on OLC. It took another 18 hours or
> so to somehow show up on OLC. And it disappeared from OLC shortly after
> I mentioned that here, with no action on my part.
>
> Yes they are completely different organizations, that is the point.
> WeGlide allows (AFAIK) unlimited downloading of any posted flight logs,
> by anybody, without a login. So it is possible for a competing
> organization to copy and post the same flight logs.

[Jason Leonard]

On Wednesday, April 21, 2021 at 9:13:29 AM UTC-4, Matthew Scutter wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 21, 2021 at 7:28:51 PM UTC+10, krasw wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 20 April 2021 at 13:01:54 UTC+3, Andreas Maurer wrote:
> > > I dare to predict that at least in Germany OLC will be redundant after
> > > this summer, and I'd love to see the rest of the World adopt WeGlide,
> > > too.
> > Why? We are missing the story behind this. OLC has committed some crime against German pilots?
> The decentralized competition in Germany (DMS-t) contracted WeGlide this year, instead of the OLC as was tradition. I know two other countries that will also be strongly considering moving their decentralized competitions this year.
> Many pilots only upload their flights to be scored in these contests.
>
> Aside from that, I think the disabling of uploads from LX9000 devices lost the OLC a lot of goodwill against the large base of LX device owners too.

LX9000 owners cannot upload to OLC?? Is that just Germany or worldwide? Hopefully the LX8030 I order will be allowed to upload... good grief that's half the point of having it.

[Piet Barber]

> LX9000 owners cannot upload to OLC?? Is that just Germany or worldwide? Hopefully the LX8030 I order will be allowed to upload... good grief that's half the point of having it.

This was the case for a short while. As of early April, I've been able to upload the flights to OLC directly from the LX9070. You have to click a few checkmarks within the interface to agree to this and that, but it's doable. It's all been sorted out, and you can now upload flights directly to OLC from the unit without having to go to the website from your phone or an internet-connected computer.

[Dan Marotta]

Just curious but how does that work? Does the LX computer have a
built-in cell radio or some other means to get to OLC? Do you need a
separate data plan? Or does it connect to your cell phone to upload the
igc file?

Dan
5J

On 4/27/21 2:03 PM, Piet Barber wrote:
>
>
>> LX9000 owners cannot upload to OLC?? Is that just Germany or worldwide? Hopefully the LX8030 I order will be allowed to upload... good grief that's half the point of having it.
>
> This was the case for a short while. As of early April, I've been able to upload the flights to OLC directly from the LX9070. You have to click a few checkmarks within the interface to agree to this and that, but it's doable. It's all been sorted out, and you can now upload flights directly to OLC from the unit without having to go to the website from your phone or an internet-connected computer.
>

[Eric Greenwell[_4_]]

My understanding it's just a WiFi stick in an USB slot on the LX computer. Any
WiFi connected to the internet, whether it's airport provided, hangar with
private WiFi, hotspot on your phone, as long as you know the WiFi ID and
password, you can send files to OLC and other organizations. WiFi also let's it
download files it needs, like Skysight weather.

Eric

On 4/27/2021 2:46 PM, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Just curious but how does that work?Â* Does the LX computer have a built-in cell
> radio or some other means to get to OLC?Â* Do you need a separate data plan?Â* Or
> does it connect to your cell phone to upload the igc file?
>
> Dan
> 5J
>
> On 4/27/21 2:03 PM, Piet Barber wrote:
>>
>>
>>> LX9000 owners cannot upload to OLC?? Is that just Germany or worldwide?
>>> Hopefully the LX8030 I order will be allowed to upload... good grief that's
>>> half the point of having it.
>>
>> This was the case for a short while.Â* As of early April, I've been able to
>> upload the flights to OLC directly from the LX9070.Â* You have to click a few
>> checkmarks within the interface to agree to this and that, but it's doable.
>> It's all been sorted out, and you can now upload flights directly to OLC from
>> the unit without having to go to the website from your phone or an
>> internet-connected computer.
>>


--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications/download-the-guide-1

[Dan Marotta]

Cool, thanks!


Dan
5J

On 4/27/21 4:44 PM, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> My understanding it's just a WiFi stick in an USB slot on the LX
> computer. Any WiFi connected to the internet, whether it's airport
> provided, hangar with private WiFi, hotspot on your phone, as long as
> you know the WiFi ID and password, you can send files to OLC and other
> organizations. WiFi also let's it download files it needs, like Skysight
> weather.
>
> Eric
>
> On 4/27/2021 2:46 PM, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> Just curious but how does that work?Â* Does the LX computer have a
>> built-in cell radio or some other means to get to OLC?Â* Do you need a
>> separate data plan?Â* Or does it connect to your cell phone to upload
>> the igc file?
>>
>> Dan
>> 5J
>>
>> On 4/27/21 2:03 PM, Piet Barber wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> LX9000 owners cannot upload to OLC?? Is that just Germany or
>>>> worldwide? Hopefully the LX8030 I order will be allowed to upload...
>>>> good grief that's half the point of having it.
>>>
>>> This was the case for a short while.Â* As of early April, I've been
>>> able to upload the flights to OLC directly from the LX9070.Â* You have
>>> to click a few checkmarks within the interface to agree to this and
>>> that, but it's doable. It's all been sorted out, and you can now
>>> upload flights directly to OLC from the unit without having to go to
>>> the website from your phone or an internet-connected computer.
>>>
>
>

[Piet Barber]

> Just curious but how does that work? Does the LX computer have a
> built-in cell radio or some other means to get to OLC? Do you need a
> separate data plan? Or does it connect to your cell phone to upload the
> igc file?

This is the most civilized way to download flights. I have a portable MiFI hotspot that I bring along with me. I tuck it into one of the side pockets and turn on the master switch, power on the LX9070. The system knows the wifi password on the MiFI, connects to the Internet. From there, the LX9070 syncs up with my Google Drive folder that I've set up for the LX9070. It syncs all of the airspace files, all of the turnpoints, finds new firmware to be updated, updates whatever it needs to update. I also have a subscription to SkySight, so it downloads the SkySight images to the LX9070s in the front and back seats. The 9070 has a WiFi antenna plugged into the back of the unit into a USB port.

Once I'm done with the day's flying, I go to the logbook page, select "save" on the flight. It uploads to my Google Drive directory automatically, uploads to weglide, and after asking me a few questions about my copilot, uploads the flight to OLC.

Plugging USB sticks into devices and downloading data files seems so primitive now!

[Matthew Scutter]

On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 12:26:13 PM UTC+10, Piet Barber wrote:
> > Just curious but how does that work? Does the LX computer have a
> > built-in cell radio or some other means to get to OLC? Do you need a
> > separate data plan? Or does it connect to your cell phone to upload the
> > igc file?
> This is the most civilized way to download flights. I have a portable MiFI hotspot that I bring along with me. I tuck it into one of the side pockets and turn on the master switch, power on the LX9070. The system knows the wifi password on the MiFI, connects to the Internet. From there, the LX9070 syncs up with my Google Drive folder that I've set up for the LX9070. It syncs all of the airspace files, all of the turnpoints, finds new firmware to be updated, updates whatever it needs to update. I also have a subscription to SkySight, so it downloads the SkySight images to the LX9070s in the front and back seats. The 9070 has a WiFi antenna plugged into the back of the unit into a USB port.
>
> Once I'm done with the day's flying, I go to the logbook page, select "save" on the flight. It uploads to my Google Drive directory automatically, uploads to weglide, and after asking me a few questions about my copilot, uploads the flight to OLC.
>
> Plugging USB sticks into devices and downloading data files seems so primitive now!
The real 'killer feature' for me has been automatically downloading competition tasks. Programming your Oudie or phone in the airconditioned climate of the briefing room was fine, but standing in the sunshine and heat of the grid holding a task sheet in the wind to program the task was a pain in the ass. Now I just get in the glider and the task is waiting for me.
Notionally it will upload the task automatically on landing, but I have not found this to work. Usually a contest has an email you can send your flights to, so I can add that email and send it from the device with only a few button clicks, usually before I even open the canopy on landing.

[krasw]

I've been browsing weglide and posting some old flights there. After few weeks of learning to use it, here is my first impression. The user interface is a text book example how to do pretty (hmmm) layoyt that is absolute nightmare to use. When checking daily scores from my country, first you write your country name to search box (instead of clicking link). Ok. Just copy the name right away to clipboard, you will be writing it all the time. Flights appear. Ok but they are from several dates. Check the date. Wait what, where is the current day -link? Ok, right corner has this list -link that LOGICALLY displays also calendar. Well this make things easier, I'm glad it took only week to find it. What is this calendar looking icon with blue dots? Ok it's actually a dynamic calendar. Lets click there? Aha you need to know that last day is right and down blue dot in calendar, sure. What about yesterday? Is it left side dot? No it is the upper dot. Why? Well why wouldn't you want to click some random dots on calendar instead of click next day or previous day links. OLC, no need to worry.