Re: Testing for Attachments

[Dan Marotta]

Well, It worked for me!

Dan
5J

On 2/24/21 12:00 PM, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Since I use the Thunderbird email client to read RAS and I just
> discovered that I can attach a file to a message, I thought I'd do a
> test run.Â* Anybody out there see the picture?

[Guy Acheson[_2_]]

No photos or attachments.

[Eric Greenwell[_4_]]

Dan Marotta wrote on 2/24/2021 11:11 AM:
> Well, It worked for me!
>
> Dan
> 5J
>
> On 2/24/21 12:00 PM, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> Since I use the Thunderbird email client to read RAS and I just discovered that I can attach
>> a file to a message, I thought I'd do a test run.* Anybody out there see the picture?

All I got was this message, which did not have an attachment.
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[Eric Greenwell[_2_]]

On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 11:11:35 AM UTC-8, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Well, It worked for me!
>
> Dan
> 5J
>
> On 2/24/21 12:00 PM, Dan Marotta wrote:
> > Since I use the Thunderbird email client to read RAS and I just
> > discovered that I can attach a file to a message, I thought I'd do a
> > test run. Anybody out there see the picture?
I did not see the original message using my email client (Seamonkey - nearly identical to Thunderbird), nor did I see it using Google Groups. Seems like it might be Thunderbird quirk, because RAS is a Usenet group that does not support images.

How do you connect to RAS? I use the nntp.aioe.org server.

[Darryl Ramm]

On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 11:11:35 AM UTC-8, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Well, It worked for me!

It worked for anybody using a modern USENET reader. The old USENET, which is where rec.aviation.soaring really lives is all ASCII characters and supported attachments by converting things like Images to a ASCII text encoding. Thunderbird (a great USENET reader) is making this simple for you, but under the covers it's converting that jpg image to the text encoding and converting it back when you read the message. Folks with ancient USENET readers might see the encoded text as

--------------0DAD4A81AAF329A2D963103A
Content-Type: image/jpeg;
name="T-Birds.jpg"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment;
filename="T-Birds.jpg"

/9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAgEBLAEsAAD/7Q3yUGhvdG9zaG9wIDMuMAA4QklNA+0AAAAAABABLAAA
AAEAAQEsAAAAAQABOEJJTQQNAAAAAAAEAAAAeDhCSU0D8wAAAA AACAAAAAAAAAAAOEJJTQQK
AAAAAAABAAA4QklNJxAAAAAAAAoAAQAAAAAAAAACOEJJTQP1AA AAAABIAC9mZgABAGxmZgAG


And Google Groups... which is a pretty crappy front-end to USENET... well it just ignores all attachments.

Darryl

>
> Dan
> 5J
>
> On 2/24/21 12:00 PM, Dan Marotta wrote:
> > Since I use the Thunderbird email client to read RAS and I just
> > discovered that I can attach a file to a message, I thought I'd do a
> > test run. Anybody out there see the picture?

[Martin Gregorie[_6_]]

On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 12:49:41 -0800, Darryl Ramm wrote:

> On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 11:11:35 AM UTC-8, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> Well, It worked for me!
>
> It worked for anybody using a modern USENET reader. The old USENET,
> which is where rec.aviation.soaring really lives is all ASCII characters
> and supported attachments by converting things like Images to a ASCII
> text encoding. Thunderbird (a great USENET reader) is making this simple
> for you, but under the covers it's converting that jpg image to the text
> encoding and converting it back when you read the message. Folks with
> ancient USENET readers might see the encoded text as
>
> --------------0DAD4A81AAF329A2D963103A Content-Type: image/jpeg;
> name="T-Birds.jpg"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment;
> filename="T-Birds.jpg"
>
> /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAgEBLAEsAAD/7Q3yUGhvdG9zaG9wIDMuMAA4QklNA+0AAAAAABABLAAA
> AAEAAQEsAAAAAQABOEJJTQQNAAAAAAAEAAAAeDhCSU0D8wAAAA AACAAAAAAAAAAAOEJJTQQK
> AAAAAAABAAA4QklNJxAAAAAAAAoAAQAAAAAAAAACOEJJTQP1AA AAAABIAC9mZgABAGxmZgAG
>
>
> And Google Groups... which is a pretty crappy front-end to USENET...
> well it just ignores all attachments.
>
> Darryl
>
>
>> Dan 5J
>>
>> On 2/24/21 12:00 PM, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> > Since I use the Thunderbird email client to read RAS and I just
>> > discovered that I can attach a file to a message, I thought I'd do a
>> > test run. Anybody out there see the picture?

Not here with the Pan newsreader - it wouldn't display them but did save
them - without saying where.


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[Martin Gregorie[_6_]]

On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 21:08:39 +0000, Martin Gregorie wrote:

> Not here with the Pan newsreader - it wouldn't display them but did save
> them - without saying where.
>
Later....

Found 'em (after reading Pan Help) :-(

Both JPG image and message readable.

A useful discovery: I hadn't realised that using attachments was possible.




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Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org

[Dan Marotta]

All us glider guys that want the modern technology in our cockpits are
inexplicably still using smoke signals to communicate on RAS. Go figure.

Dan
5J

On 2/24/21 2:22 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 21:08:39 +0000, Martin Gregorie wrote:
>
>> Not here with the Pan newsreader - it wouldn't display them but did save
>> them - without saying where.
>>
> Later....
>
> Found 'em (after reading Pan Help) :-(
>
> Both JPG image and message readable.
>
> A useful discovery: I hadn't realised that using attachments was possible.
>
>
>
>

[Eric Greenwell[_4_]]

Darryl Ramm wrote on 2/24/2021 12:49 PM:
> On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 11:11:35 AM UTC-8, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> Well, It worked for me!
>
> It worked for anybody using a modern USENET reader. The old USENET, which is where rec.aviation.soaring really lives is all ASCII characters and supported attachments by converting things like Images to a ASCII text encoding. Thunderbird (a great USENET reader) is making this simple for you, but under the covers it's converting that jpg image to the text encoding and converting it back when you read the message. Folks with ancient USENET readers might see the encoded text as
>
> --------------0DAD4A81AAF329A2D963103A
> Content-Type: image/jpeg;
> name="T-Birds.jpg"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> Content-Disposition: attachment;
> filename="T-Birds.jpg"
>
> /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAgEBLAEsAAD/7Q3yUGhvdG9zaG9wIDMuMAA4QklNA+0AAAAAABABLAAA
> AAEAAQEsAAAAAQABOEJJTQQNAAAAAAAEAAAAeDhCSU0D8wAAAA AACAAAAAAAAAAAOEJJTQQK
> AAAAAAABAAA4QklNJxAAAAAAAAoAAQAAAAAAAAACOEJJTQP1AA AAAABIAC9mZgABAGxmZgAG
>
>
> And Google Groups... which is a pretty crappy front-end to USENET... well it just ignores all attachments.
>
> Darryl
>
>>
>> Dan
>> 5J
>>
>> On 2/24/21 12:00 PM, Dan Marotta wrote:
>>> Since I use the Thunderbird email client to read RAS and I just
>>> discovered that I can attach a file to a message, I thought I'd do a
>>> test run. Anybody out there see the picture?
I attached an image to this posting. Let's see if anyone sees it!

OK, it wouldn't send because of "invalid content type", probably the nntp.aioe.org server
choking on it. I probably need to use a different server to make it work, like Dan's
eternal-september.org.

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