Aviation Movies?

[Dave Burton]

Here is you chance to suggest movies to show at a fly-in. I'd
appreciate any suggestions for newer movies, available on DVD or video
tape. We've seen all the oldies. I've got to stick to PG films for
the most part since this will be visible to the CAP cadets and anyone
else still up after dark. The films will be shown outdoors at the
edge of the taxiway. I'm not a movie goer and I'm not familar with
newer offerings that might be available.

We have " kids day" we also need a movie for. "Holes" last year was
a big hit...

Any movie suggestions that might entain the fly-in crowd would be
great. I know the choice of aviation movies is limited and I don't
think we want to show Top Gun or Independance Day, again...

Thanks,
Dave

[John T]

"Dave Burton" > wrote in message

>
> Any movie suggestions that might entain the fly-in crowd would be
> great. I know the choice of aviation movies is limited and I don't
> think we want to show Top Gun or Independance Day, again...

"The Aviator" is PG13 and I thought was pretty good. "Always" is more of a
love story involving firefighting pilots, but at least it has aviation
content. "Memphis Belle" (the 1990 version, not the documentary) is PG13.

Some of the more classic ones I have are "The Blue Max", "The Battle of
Britain", "Twelve o'Clock High" and "The Bridges of Toko Ri".

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[John Gaquin]

"John T" > wrote in message news:429b37e8$0$20841
>>
>> Any movie suggestions that might entain the fly-in crowd would be
>> great. I know the choice of aviation movies is limited and I don't
>> think we want to show Top Gun or Independance Day, again...
>
> "The Aviator" is PG13 and I thought was pretty good. "Always" is more of
> a love story involving firefighting pilots, but at least it has aviation
> content. "Memphis Belle" (the 1990 version, not the documentary) is PG13.

You're right about "Always", but the story construction is so saturated with
flying that it would be a great selection for Dave.

Also, Dave, "The Great Waldo Pepper" and "Rocketeer" are both PG.

[james]

the original "flight of the phoenix" was kinda cool - i liked it

[Gene Seibel]

High Road to China has some neat flying scenes.
--
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Because we fly, we envy no one.

[AES]

What's the old B&W classic about flying a Ford Trimotor (?) across the
Andes in South America -- flying through a narrow pass in a thick fog.

And the more recent one about the male pilot and female passenger who
make a forced landing on a tropic beach, with no one knowing where they
are; and have to essentially rebuild part of the plane with logs and
rope to get back off. (Or is that one of the one's already mentioned?)

[Robert M. Gary]

"Only Angles Have Wings" (my favorite)
"Stategic Air Command"
"The Great Waldo Pepper"
"Spirit of Saint Louis"

I thought the original "Flight of the Phoenix" and "Flying Tigers" were
boring.

[james]

was it recent? the one with harrison ford and anne hech? the movie
(and title), to me were forgettable :)

but at least harrison ford made it more accurate then most, being a
pilot.

[Orval Fairbairn]

In article >,
AES > wrote:

> What's the old B&W classic about flying a Ford Trimotor (?) across the
> Andes in South America -- flying through a narrow pass in a thick fog.
>
> And the more recent one about the male pilot and female passenger who
> make a forced landing on a tropic beach, with no one knowing where they
> are; and have to essentially rebuild part of the plane with logs and
> rope to get back off. (Or is that one of the one's already mentioned?)



"Six Days, Seven Nights", or something like that. They crash-land a
Beaver and cannibalize a WW-II Japanese float plane for parts.

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[dancingstarcreations]

Dave Burton wrote:
> Here is you chance to suggest movies to show at a fly-in....


Why "The Aviator" of course! True story, great performances, 5 academy
awards, the most incredible crash scene I've ever seen, and a chance to
give one of our nation's most enigmatic figures some well-deserved
recognition as an aviation pioneer.

BTW....once you see the movie you'll never call it "The Spruce Goose" again.


Antonio

[Montblack]

("AES" wrote)
[snip]
> What's the old B&W classic about flying a Ford Trimotor (?) across the
> Andes in South America -- flying through a narrow pass in a thick fog.


http://www.carygrant.net/reviews/wings.html
Good Cary Grant page

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0031762/
Only Angels Have Wings (1939)


Montblack

[Montblack]

("Dave Burton" wrote)
> Any movie suggestions that might entain the fly-in crowd would be
> great. I know the choice of aviation movies is limited and I don't
> think we want to show Top Gun or Independance Day, again...


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059797/
Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines, or How I Flew from London to
Paris in 25 hours 11 minutes (1965)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0301727/
Winged Migration (2001)


<http://www.turnerclassicmovies.com/ThisMonth/Article/0,,93522%7C93523%7C62543,00.html>
I really was really entertained (in an MST3000 kind of way) by Flight
Command (1940).

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2ED52B2B
(same link as above ....wait for it)

I liked Flight Command because it was so bad - the acting, the lines, the
blocking, the characters, the plot. However, the flying scenes and hangar
scenes were very, very fun. Sometimes at functions like yours 'talk back to
the screen' movies are a hoot. This would be a great movie for that!!


For an older audience 10 and up...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092965/
Empire of the Sun (1987)

If I could present only three Spielberg movies for a film class to study,
this would be one of them. All of Spielberg's strengths ...and *other*
Spielberg traits, are seen in this film. It's Spielberg at his most
Spielbergishness. Good ...and bad (which is still pretty good :-)


Montblack

[Antoñio]

Montblack wrote:
> ("Dave Burton" wrote)
>
>> Any movie suggestions that might entain the fly-in crowd would be
>
Why "The Aviator" of course! True story, great performances, 5 academy
awards, the most incredible crash scene I've ever seen, and a chance to
give one of our nation's most enigmatic figures some well-deserved
recognition as an aviation pioneer.

BTW....once you see the movie you'll never call it "The Spruce Goose" again.


Antonio

[bluenosepiperflyer]

"The Dam Busters", upon which George Lucas leaned heavily in "Star
Wars", is black and white, but better every time you see it: from
four-engine Lancasters screaming over the countryside at night at sixty
feet, to clocks ticking in the bedrooms of dead aircrew after the raid
on the German dams; Richard Todd, who plays the squadron's leader,
dropped in to Normandy as a paratrooper on the night of 5-6 June 1944.
Not too long;

The "Spirit of St. Louis", in which Jimmy Stewart, who flew bombers in
the European theatre, plays Charles Lindbergh, who flew P-38's and
other aircraft in the Pacific (as well as a small, silver single engine
airplane across the Atlantic!). Color.

"Twelve O'clock High" (the movie, not the tv series). Black and white,
relatively short.

"The Right Stuff", especially the parts in which Chuck Yeager,
wonderfully played by Sam Sheppard: 1. launches in a B-29 and breaks
the sound barrier in the X-1; 2. launches in a later development of
that airplane and breaks the canopy with his head; 3. launches in the
NF-104 in going for the altitude record, and breaks it (the NF-104).
Long, though.

If you want to stretch the definition of "movie" a bit, "Piece of
Cake", a mini-series about the summer of 1940 which was shown on PBS
about ten years ago, is now out on DVD. It has long, loving sequences
of Spitfires flying off grass fields, landing on lawns of country
houses, flying under bridges, and arcing through the skies after 109's.
This would probably be way too long, though (about six hours).

All of the above would be PG, as I recall, with "Piece of Cake" perhaps
being PG-13.

[Alan]

"Hell's Angels" and "The Dawn Patrol" from the early '30s.
Wings - the silent classic that won the first best picture academy
award.

Yes, I'm seriously into WWI aviation!


On Mon, 30 May 2005 15:22:45 GMT, (Dave Burton)
wrote:

>Here is you chance to suggest movies to show at a fly-in. I'd
>appreciate any suggestions for newer movies, available on DVD or video
>tape. We've seen all the oldies. I've got to stick to PG films for
>the most part since this will be visible to the CAP cadets and anyone
>else still up after dark. The films will be shown outdoors at the
>edge of the taxiway. I'm not a movie goer and I'm not familar with
>newer offerings that might be available.
>
> We have " kids day" we also need a movie for. "Holes" last year was
>a big hit...
>
>Any movie suggestions that might entain the fly-in crowd would be
>great. I know the choice of aviation movies is limited and I don't
>think we want to show Top Gun or Independance Day, again...
>
>Thanks,
>Dave

[Orval Fairbairn]

In article >,
dancingstarcreations >
wrote:

> Dave Burton wrote:
> > Here is you chance to suggest movies to show at a fly-in....
>
>
> Why "The Aviator" of course! True story, great performances, 5 academy
> awards, the most incredible crash scene I've ever seen, and a chance to
> give one of our nation's most enigmatic figures some well-deserved
> recognition as an aviation pioneer.
>
> BTW....once you see the movie you'll never call it "The Spruce Goose" again.
>
>
> Antonio


I did not rate "The Aviator" that highly. The crash scenes are all bogus
CGI and have little in common with reality. As for DiCaprio's portrayal
of Hughes, I thought that he was just another pretty face going through
the motions.

His piloting scenes reminded me of a 5-year-old playing "airplane." His
acting there was most unconvincing. IMHO, the only thing missing there
was making "BRRRR" sounds.

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[Helen Woods]

The Rocketeer - hands down - for kids of all ages!

Helen

[John Galban]

Montblack wrote:
>
> I liked Flight Command because it was so bad - the acting, the lines, the
> blocking, the characters, the plot. However, the flying scenes and hangar
> scenes were very, very fun. Sometimes at functions like yours 'talk back to
> the screen' movies are a hoot. This would be a great movie for that!!

I saw it this weekend on TCM's Memorial Day marathon. It was
certainly a winner in the hokey dept. If you stayed up a little later
last night you might have caught "God is my Copilot". Now that was
hokey. The dialog was absolutely hilarious. Particularly the radio
dialogue as the Tigers are mowing down Zeros. I was thinking that if
you put a bunch of fifth graders into P-40s and had them dogfight, the
dialogue might ring true.

Let's not forget the all time classic "Zero hour!". The movie
"Airplane!" is nearly a scene for scene parody of "Zero Hour!". I'm
still not sure which one is funnier.

John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

[Antoñio]

Alan wrote:
> "Hell's Angels" and "The Dawn Patrol" from the early '30s.
> Wings - the silent classic that won the first best picture academy
> award.
>
> Yes, I'm seriously into WWI aviation!

Wasn't "Hell's Angels" the movie by Howard Hughes?

Antonio

[Dave Stadt]

"Antoñio" > wrote in message
...
> Alan wrote:
> > "Hell's Angels" and "The Dawn Patrol" from the early '30s.
> > Wings - the silent classic that won the first best picture academy
> > award.
> >
> > Yes, I'm seriously into WWI aviation!
>
> Wasn't "Hell's Angels" the movie by Howard Hughes?
>
> Antonio

Yes, and Pancho Barnes flew in it.

[Antoñio]

Orval Fairbairn wrote:
> In article >,
> dancingstarcreations >
> wrote:
>
>
>>Dave Burton wrote:
>>
>>>Here is you chance to suggest movies to show at a fly-in....
>>
>>
>>Why "The Aviator" of course! True story, great performances, 5 academy
>>awards, the most incredible crash scene I've ever seen, and a chance to
>>give one of our nation's most enigmatic figures some well-deserved
>>recognition as an aviation pioneer.
>>
>>BTW....once you see the movie you'll never call it "The Spruce Goose" again.
>>
>>
>>Antonio
>
>
>
> I did not rate "The Aviator" that highly. The crash scenes are all bogus
> CGI and have little in common with reality. As for DiCaprio's portrayal
> of Hughes, I thought that he was just another pretty face going through
> the motions.
>
> His piloting scenes reminded me of a 5-year-old playing "airplane." His
> acting there was most unconvincing. IMHO, the only thing missing there
> was making "BRRRR" sounds.
>

Sorry but 5 academy awards along with countless millions disagree with
your assessment

AFA DiCaprio's performance....you gotta be kiddng! I think he showed the
makings of a great actor here!

I think you might be reacting on a gut level to his teenage hearthrob,
sitcom days. Perhaps you missed "Catch Me If You Can"--the boy has
developed some great stage presence in my opinion.



Antonio

[Dave Stadt]

"Antoñio" > wrote in message
...
> Orval Fairbairn wrote:
> > In article >,
> > dancingstarcreations >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Dave Burton wrote:
> >>
> >>>Here is you chance to suggest movies to show at a fly-in....
> >>
> >>
> >>Why "The Aviator" of course! True story, great performances, 5 academy
> >>awards, the most incredible crash scene I've ever seen, and a chance to
> >>give one of our nation's most enigmatic figures some well-deserved
> >>recognition as an aviation pioneer.
> >>
> >>BTW....once you see the movie you'll never call it "The Spruce Goose"
again.
> >>
> >>
> >>Antonio
> >
> >
> >
> > I did not rate "The Aviator" that highly. The crash scenes are all bogus
> > CGI and have little in common with reality. As for DiCaprio's portrayal
> > of Hughes, I thought that he was just another pretty face going through
> > the motions.
> >
> > His piloting scenes reminded me of a 5-year-old playing "airplane." His
> > acting there was most unconvincing. IMHO, the only thing missing there
> > was making "BRRRR" sounds.
> >
>
> Sorry but 5 academy awards along with countless millions disagree with
> your assessment
>
> AFA DiCaprio's performance....you gotta be kiddng! I think he showed the
> makings of a great actor here!
>
> I think you might be reacting on a gut level to his teenage hearthrob,
> sitcom days. Perhaps you missed "Catch Me If You Can"--the boy has
> developed some great stage presence in my opinion.
>
>
>
> Antonio

Fact is he and the crash scenes were the worst part of the movie. He
certainly won NO academy awards.

[Matt Barrow]

"Antoñio" > wrote in message
...
> >
> > His piloting scenes reminded me of a 5-year-old playing "airplane." His
> > acting there was most unconvincing. IMHO, the only thing missing there
> > was making "BRRRR" sounds.
> >
>
> Sorry but 5 academy awards along with countless millions disagree with
> your assessment

Are those the people that do your thinking for you?

[Montblack]

("Dave Stadt" wrote)
> Fact is he and the crash scenes were the worst part of the movie. He
> certainly won NO academy awards.


It took me two minutes to switch from DiCaprio to Hughes - tops. I thought
he did an outstanding job in that role. However, I never did warm up to that
Kate Hepburn portrayal by Cate Blanchett. The romantic chemistry between
Hughes and Hepburn was also a dud - I blame Blanchett :-)

Kate Beckinsale as Ava Gardner was a home run!

Crash scenes were ok. Not bad, not great. Lots of action, top notch filming,
interesting editing - not a great result, as if Scorsese threw a 105 mph
fastball and just missed the outside corner - ball.

Film deserved #1 (or #2) on Oscar night.

You might have issues with Leonardo DiCaprio like I have issues with Meryl
Streep. Most say she's a superb actress - look how great she is, she never
stops acting even when she has no lines. I think she's ..."twitchy."

BTW, I was alright with Million Dollar Baby winning the Oscar. It would have
been a better movie if the same hand that directed the first 3/4 of the
movie, had a hand in the final 1/4 of the movie (a.k.a. the ending). It's a
minimalist movie, done to near perfection - yet, near the end, everyone
feels the need to start giving speeches ...huh?


Montblack

[Antoñio]

Dave Stadt wrote:

> Fact is he and the crash scenes were the worst part of the movie. He
> certainly won NO academy awards.

No academy awards for him personally but he did win best actor at the
Golden Globe awards for Aviator. Perhaps the entire foreign press
hasn't the insight you have. Perhaps you feel the best picture Academy
Award has nothing to do with him being in almost every scene in the
entire movie.

Your "insights" are certainly not shared by the majority of the
industry.

Antonio

[Antoñio]

Matt Barrow wrote:

> Are those the people that do your thinking for you?
>
>
>
No...they are the millions that agree with me. Who agrees with you?

Antonio

[Antoñio]

Matt Barrow wrote:

> Are those the people that do your thinking for you?

No, those are the people that agree with me. Who agrees with you?


Antonio

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, Orval Fairbairn > said:
>I did not rate "The Aviator" that highly. The crash scenes are all bogus
>CGI and have little in common with reality. As for DiCaprio's portrayal
>of Hughes, I thought that he was just another pretty face going through
>the motions.

I disagree. I just watched the movie tonight, and I think he did a pretty
good job of capturing the forcefulness, impulsiveness and rising madness
of Hughes personality. But then, I think people have been underestimating
his acting talents since "Gilbert Grape" which was a boring movie which he
put in a masterful performance.

>His piloting scenes reminded me of a 5-year-old playing "airplane." His
>acting there was most unconvincing. IMHO, the only thing missing there
>was making "BRRRR" sounds.

That I've got to agree with. When he was making low passes in the H-1, he
kept shoving the stick forward and to the left to the full range of motion
of the stick in a hamfisted manner while the outside view showed an
aircraft being controlled with gentleness and subtle control.

The scene where he was coaching Katherine Hepburn in the Sikorski flying
boat were better done.

And both of the crashes looked like ****. When is Hollywood going to
learn that airplanes don't turn 90 degrees to the ground as soon as the
engine stops?

--
Paul Tomblin > http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
Home pages are the pet rock of the 90s. They all have them, they all think
they're very cute. But in a few years they're going to look back and be
pretty embarrassed. -- Kim Alm

[Dylan Smith]

In article om>, Antoñio wrote:
> Your "insights" are certainly not shared by the majority of the
> industry.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

On the other hand, I don't really pay much attention to the
self-congratulatory (and extremely dull) awards like the Oscars or this
other academy awards thing. If I find a movie enjoyable, I couldn't give
a stuff how many awards it has won - it could have won none at all for
all I care so long as it tells a good story and is enjoyable to watch.

I've not seen the movie in question yet, but maybe the original poster
finds it really awful. Just because a bunch of actors pat another actor
on the back, it doesn't necessarily mean everyone will find the
performance enjoyable.

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"

[Dan Luke]

"Montblack" wrote:
> he did an outstanding job in that role.

Yep. I was pleasantly surprised. In the flying scenes he over-acted,
but I blame the director /tech. advisors for that.

> However, I never did warm up to that Kate Hepburn portrayal by Cate
> Blanchett.

Oh, man, I thought she was superb! What a challenge; I thought she
completely pulled it off.

> The romantic chemistry between Hughes and Hepburn was also a dud - I
> blame Blanchett :-)

I blame the fact that romantic chemistry was a thing Hughes probably had
serious difficulty with in real life. He was an extreme neurotic, which
the film was careful to portray. It did not quite make sense for him to
be a smooth loverboy.

> Kate Beckinsale as Ava Gardner was a home run!

Yep.

> Crash scenes were ok. Not bad, not great. Lots of action, top notch
> filming, interesting editing - not a great result, as if Scorsese
> threw a 105 mph fastball and just missed the outside corner - ball.

Yeah, good and bad. I loved the scene of Hughes before the Senate
committee.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

[S.]

"Dave Burton" > wrote in message
...
> Here is you chance to suggest movies to show at a fly-in. I'd
> appreciate any suggestions for newer movies, available on DVD or video
> tape. We've seen all the oldies. I've got to stick to PG films for
> the most part since this will be visible to the CAP cadets and anyone
> else still up after dark. The films will be shown outdoors at the
> edge of the taxiway. I'm not a movie goer and I'm not familar with
> newer offerings that might be available.
>
> We have " kids day" we also need a movie for. "Holes" last year was
> a big hit...
>
> Any movie suggestions that might entain the fly-in crowd would be
> great. I know the choice of aviation movies is limited and I don't
> think we want to show Top Gun or Independance Day, again...
>

The Aviator was brilliant, IMHO, but nearly 3 hours long and many references
will be lost on the young crowd.

How about ? :-

Always
Sky Captain & The World of Tomorrow
Strategic Air Command - Stewart / Allyson - superb !
The Flying Leathernecks - John Wayne - great !!
Hot Shots !
Those Magnificent Men in their Flying Machines - a hoot !!!

[Matt Barrow]

"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
> ("Dave Stadt" wrote)
> > Fact is he and the crash scenes were the worst part of the movie. He
> > certainly won NO academy awards.
>
>
> It took me two minutes to switch from DiCaprio to Hughes - tops.

Having spent numerous hours watching/hearing him while a then-teenaged
daughter when gaa-gaa over him a few years back (on DVD), I had trouble
getting his role in _Titanic_ out of my head.

[OtisWinslow]

Strategic Air Command with Jimmy Stewart


"Dave Burton" > wrote in message
...
> Here is you chance to suggest movies to show at a fly-in. I'd
> appreciate any suggestions for newer movies, available on DVD or video
> tape. We've seen all the oldies. I've got to stick to PG films for
> the most part since this will be visible to the CAP cadets and anyone
> else still up after dark. The films will be shown outdoors at the
> edge of the taxiway. I'm not a movie goer and I'm not familar with
> newer offerings that might be available.
>
> We have " kids day" we also need a movie for. "Holes" last year was
> a big hit...
>
> Any movie suggestions that might entain the fly-in crowd would be
> great. I know the choice of aviation movies is limited and I don't
> think we want to show Top Gun or Independance Day, again...
>
> Thanks,
> Dave

[Montblack]

("Dan Luke" wrote)
[snip]
> Yeah, good and bad. I loved the scene of Hughes before the Senate
> committee.


One of the best parts of the movie!

My favorite scene in the movie: 'Reporters! Let's put Mr Hughes in *here*
until they leave.'


<http://www.reelclassics.com/Articles/General/oscar-trivia-article.htm>
Fun Oscar trivia - if you like that sort of thing :-)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000217/
Martin Scorsese filmography


Montblack

[Montblack]

("Matt Barrow" wrote)
>> It took me two minutes to switch from DiCaprio to Hughes - tops.
>
> Having spent numerous hours watching/hearing him while a then-teenaged
> daughter when gaa-gaa over him a few years back (on DVD), I had trouble
> getting his role in _Titanic_ out of my head.


I think that's why he was introduced to us (in the movie) the way he was -
forcefully, go, go, go. No time to compare. That's what I assumed Scorsese
was up to ...it worked for me.

What did your daughter think of him in The Aviator? Did his Hughes *work*
for her?

One nit about The Aviator - for me, the script was lacking (often uneven)
and was only rescued by good directing, good acting and great sets.


Montblack

[Antoñio]

Matt Barrow wrote:

> Having spent numerous hours watching/hearing him while a then-teenaged
> daughter when gaa-gaa over him a few years back (on DVD), I had trouble
> getting his role in _Titanic_ out of my head.

Me too. Until I saw him in "Catch Me If You Can" and "Gangs of New York"
I didn't really consider him a serious actor.

Antonio
>
>

[Antoñio]

Dylan Smith wrote:

>
> On the other hand, I don't really pay much attention to the
> self-congratulatory (and extremely dull) awards like the Oscars or this
> other academy awards thing.

I agree. Keep in mind though that the Academy Awards *are* the Oscars.
You were probably thinking of the Golden Globe Awards (?)

Antonio

[Dave Stadt]

"Antoñio" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
>
> Dave Stadt wrote:
>
> > Fact is he and the crash scenes were the worst part of the movie. He
> > certainly won NO academy awards.
>
> No academy awards for him personally but he did win best actor at the
> Golden Globe awards for Aviator. Perhaps the entire foreign press
> hasn't the insight you have. Perhaps you feel the best picture Academy
> Award has nothing to do with him being in almost every scene in the
> entire movie.
>
> Your "insights" are certainly not shared by the majority of the
> industry.

That is the highest compliment I have been paid in a long, long, long time.
If I start thinking like the nit wits in la la land it's time seek serious
help.


>
> Antonio
>

[Michael]

The Great Waldo Pepper
Fandango
Those Magnificent Men and Their Flying Machines

and maybe - might be a bit rough for the kids though it's certainly
tame enough for PG -

Dr. Strangelove


Michael

[Matt Barrow]

"OtisWinslow" > wrote in message
...
> Strategic Air Command with Jimmy Stewart
>
>
Great choice...if you can edit out/mute June Allyson :~(

[Matt Barrow]

"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
> ("Matt Barrow" wrote)
> >> It took me two minutes to switch from DiCaprio to Hughes - tops.
> >
> > Having spent numerous hours watching/hearing him while a then-teenaged
> > daughter when gaa-gaa over him a few years back (on DVD), I had trouble
> > getting his role in _Titanic_ out of my head.
>
>
> I think that's why he was introduced to us (in the movie) the way he was -
> forcefully, go, go, go. No time to compare. That's what I assumed Scorsese
> was up to ...it worked for me.
>
> What did your daughter think of him in The Aviator? Did his Hughes *work*
> for her?

Well, she's 20 now, rather than 13, but she was fairly impressed (though she
thinks he's uggggly).

She was impressed, too, by the interviews (on the 2nd DVD) and by the fact
he had done a lot of research and acted as executive producer.

>
> One nit about The Aviator - for me, the script was lacking (often uneven)
> and was only rescued by good directing, good acting and great sets.

I still think the movie with Tommy Lee Jones as Hughes, (The Amazing Howard
Hughes), was better as a biography and less inclined towards his mental
illness which I think of as secondary to his great accomplishments. If you
get the two disk DVD, see the extra features part about his incredible
contributions to aviation.

[Antoñio]

Dave Stadt wrote:
>>Your "insights" are certainly not shared by the majority of the
>>industry.
>
>
> That is the highest compliment I have been paid in a long, long, long time.
> If I start thinking like the nit wits in la la land it's time seek serious
> help.
>
>
>
>>Antonio
>>

Interesting....so by that line of reasoning the less people that agree
with you the more you are assured you are correct?

Antonio

[Dave Stadt]

"Antoñio" > wrote in message
...
> Dave Stadt wrote:
> >>Your "insights" are certainly not shared by the majority of the
> >>industry.
> >
> >
> > That is the highest compliment I have been paid in a long, long, long
time.
> > If I start thinking like the nit wits in la la land it's time seek
serious
> > help.
> >
> >
> >
> >>Antonio
> >>
>
> Interesting....so by that line of reasoning the less people that agree
> with you the more you are assured you are correct?
>
> Antonio

Read it again only a little slower this time and make sure you read all the
words.

[Tina Marie]

In article >, Dave Burton wrote:
> Here is you chance to suggest movies to show at a fly-in. I'd
> appreciate any suggestions for newer movies, available on DVD or video
> tape. We've seen all the oldies. I've got to stick to PG films for

All of them?

If you want campy aviation movies, check out "Time Chasers" (a guy
builds a time machine into a Citabria. Great air-to-air shootout
with a Cherokee), or "Skydivers" (1960s, where the skydivers do their
own acting...)

Tina Marie
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[Tina Marie]

In article . com>, james wrote:
> was it recent? the one with harrison ford and anne hech? the movie
> (and title), to me were forgettable :)

6 Day And 7 Nights. Had some great Beaver shots.

The PG-rated kind.

Tina Marie
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to indicate successful termination of their C programs." (Robert Firth)

[Cub Driver]

On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:59:18 -0500, "Montblack"
> wrote:

(About The Aviator)

>One of the best parts of the movie!

I thought so, too. And I almost boycotted it because I couldn't
imagine that boy-man as Howard Hughes. Did he get an Oscar for it? He
should have.


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[Corky Scott]

There is also "Cloud Dancer" starring Keith Carradine, Jennifer O'Neil
and Timothy Bottoms. It's about an aerobatics pilot who begins to
suffer some physical damage from his strenuous routines and has to
decide what his future will be.

There's also drug running in there somewhere and a "dogfight" between
a P-51 Mustang (fully armed), and a Cherokee (I think it was a
Cherokee).

Lots and lots of flying action, but I don't think the film is
available anymore.

Corky Scott

[George Patterson]

Corky Scott wrote:
>
> Lots and lots of flying action, but I don't think the film is
> available anymore.

Amazon has several used copies at prices in the $30 and up range.

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.

[Montblack]

("Cub Driver" wrote)
> I thought so, too. And I almost boycotted it because I couldn't
> imagine that boy-man as Howard Hughes. Did he get an Oscar for it? He
> should have.


Jamie Foxx - RAY

http://www.filmsite.org/oscars00.html 00's

http://www.filmsite.org/oscars90.html 90's

http://www.filmsite.org/oscars80.html 80's

http://www.filmsite.org/oscars70.html 70's

http://www.filmsite.org/oscars60.html 60's

http://www.filmsite.org/oscars50.html 50's

http://www.filmsite.org/oscars40.html 40's

http://www.filmsite.org/oscars30.html 30's

I looked under 1976 but there weren't any writing credits listed :-)


Montblack

[gregg]

Corky Scott wrote:

> There is also "Cloud Dancer" starring Keith Carradine, Jennifer O'Neil
> and Timothy Bottoms. It's about an aerobatics pilot who begins to
> suffer some physical damage from his strenuous routines and has to
> decide what his future will be.
>
> There's also drug running in there somewhere and a "dogfight" between
> a P-51 Mustang (fully armed), and a Cherokee (I think it was a
> Cherokee).
>
> Lots and lots of flying action, but I don't think the film is
> available anymore.
>
> Corky Scott


Hi Corky,

There was a movie called "Wings of Fire" wiht Suzanne Pleshette and james
Farentino. Pleshette's "father" owned a struggling aero operation and
Pleshette flew P-51's in races.

You got to see some pretty good P-51 flying, F*F Bearcat flying and, of
course....

Susan Pleshette ;^)


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[BillJ]

Antoñio wrote:
> Orval Fairbairn wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> dancingstarcreations >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Dave Burton wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here is you chance to suggest movies to show at a fly-in....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Why "The Aviator" of course! True story, great performances, 5
>>> academy awards, the most incredible crash scene I've ever seen, and a
>>> chance to give one of our nation's most enigmatic figures some
>>> well-deserved recognition as an aviation pioneer.
>>>
>>> BTW....once you see the movie you'll never call it "The Spruce Goose"
>>> again.
>>>
>>>
>>> Antonio
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I did not rate "The Aviator" that highly. The crash scenes are all
>> bogus CGI and have little in common with reality. As for DiCaprio's
>> portrayal of Hughes, I thought that he was just another pretty face
>> going through the motions.
>>
>> His piloting scenes reminded me of a 5-year-old playing "airplane."
>> His acting there was most unconvincing. IMHO, the only thing missing
>> there was making "BRRRR" sounds.
>>
>
> Sorry but 5 academy awards along with countless millions disagree with
> your assessment
>
> AFA DiCaprio's performance....you gotta be kiddng! I think he showed the
> makings of a great actor here!
>
> I think you might be reacting on a gut level to his teenage hearthrob,
> sitcom days. Perhaps you missed "Catch Me If You Can"--the boy has
> developed some great stage presence in my opinion.
>
>
>
> Antonio
Be advised that there are two movies with the name "The Aviator",
unrelated. The one about Howard Hughes, and the really good one with
Christopher Reeves based on an Ernest K. Gann book. This is about early
airmail pilots, also a great crash scene.

[John Ousterhout]

Tina Marie wrote:
> In article . com>, james wrote:
>
>>was it recent? the one with harrison ford and anne hech? the movie
>>(and title), to me were forgettable :)
>
>
> 6 Day And 7 Nights. Had some great Beaver shots.
>
> The PG-rated kind.
>
> Tina Marie

I watched that movie just because the Beaver is one of my favorite planes.

It wasn't worth it. Too much implausible stuff.

- J.O.-

[George Patterson]

John Ousterhout wrote:
>
> It wasn't worth it. Too much implausible stuff.

I loved the way they were able to carry on a conversation in flight at normal
speech levels with no headsets.

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, John Ousterhout > said:
>I watched that movie just because the Beaver is one of my favorite planes.
>
>It wasn't worth it. Too much implausible stuff.

Anne Heche in a love story with a man, you mean?


--
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valuable side effect: they force all of the smart people to come together in
one place where they can interact with one another. -- Neal Stephenson

[LWG]

And, you could see the port and starboard position lights from the rear.

"George Patterson" > wrote in message
news:J9pte.20871$ej1.11046@trndny09...
> John Ousterhout wrote:
>>
>> It wasn't worth it. Too much implausible stuff.
>
> I loved the way they were able to carry on a conversation in flight at
> normal speech levels with no headsets.
>
> George Patterson
> Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
> and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
> Because she smells like a new truck.

[Matt Barrow]

"George Patterson" > wrote in message
news:J9pte.20871$ej1.11046@trndny09...
> John Ousterhout wrote:
> >
> > It wasn't worth it. Too much implausible stuff.
>
> I loved the way they were able to carry on a conversation in flight at
normal
> speech levels with no headsets.
>
Yes, but if they did it realistically, they'd have to issue headsets to
everyone who saw it in the theater.

[Matt Barrow]

"Paul Tomblin" > wrote in message
...
> In a previous article, John Ousterhout
> said:
> >I watched that movie just because the Beaver is one of my favorite
planes.
> >
> >It wasn't worth it. Too much implausible stuff.
>
> Anne Heche in a love story with a man, you mean?

I believe she'd had her epiphany prior to that one being filmed.