Dick Johnson flight tests

[jp]

Are the Dick Johnson flight test reports on the new SSA website?

[Semantics Michael]

On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 10:03:03 AM UTC-5, jp wrote:
> Are the Dick Johnson flight test reports on the new SSA website?

Yes, JP. After you log in, go to "News".....then, "Soaring Magazine online". On that page you'll see the link to the reports in the upper left--hand corner.
Mike

[Semantics Michael]

On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 10:03:03 AM UTC-5, jp wrote:
> Are the Dick Johnson flight test reports on the new SSA website?

Yes, JP. After you log in, go to "News".....then, "Soaring Magazine online". On that page you'll see the link to the reports in the upper left--hand corner. If you are unable to log in, let us know which reports you're interested in and one of us will hopefully forward them on. Note that some of his findings differ from the Idaflieg tests of the same models. Not surprising as they use different tools for their measurements.
Mike

[Semantics Michael]

On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 10:03:03 AM UTC-5, jp wrote:
> Are the Dick Johnson flight test reports on the new SSA website?

On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 2:08:23 PM UTC-5, Semantics Michael wrote:
> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 10:03:03 AM UTC-5, jp wrote:
> > Are the Dick Johnson flight test reports on the new SSA website?

Yes, JP. After you log in, go to "News".....then, "Soaring Magazine online".. On that page you'll see the link to the reports in the upper left--hand corner. If you are unable to log in, let us know which reports you're interested in and one of us will hopefully forward them on. Note that some of his findings differ significantly from the Idaflieg tests of the same models. Not surprising as they use different tools for their measurements. Here's the list from SM:
Mike

304CZ Sailplane (July 2000, page 30)
ASH-25 Sailplane (May 1988, page 34)
ASH-26E Self-Launching 18-Meter Sailplane (September 1995, page 21)
ASK-21 Sailplane (July 1985, page 16)
ASW-19 Sailplane (August 1977, page 30)
ASW-20 Sailplane (May 1978, page 21)
ASW-22 Sailplane (April 1983, page 22)
ASW-24W Sailplane (May 1994, page 35)
DG-101G Sailplane (May 1985, page 14)
DG-200 Sailplane (July 1980, page 20)
DG-300 Flight test (August 1985, page 14)
DG-600 Sailplane (August 1989, page 12)
DG-1000S Sailplane (September 2003, page 14)
Discus 2B Standard Class Racer (May 1999, page 32)
Discus Sailplane (February 1986, page 14)
Drag Test Instrument (October 1983, page 28)
Duo Discus Sailplane (March 1999, page 28)
Genesis 2 Sailplane (March 2000, page 14)
Glasflugel 604 Modifications (November 1977, page 36)
Glasflugel 604 Sailplane (October 1976, page 40)
Grob 103C Twin III Sailplane (March 1990, page 49)
Grob G-109B Motorglider (May 1986, page 14)
Grob 102 Club IIIb Sailplane (January 1984, page 18)
Grob 103 Twin II Sailplane (February 1983, page 36)
HK36TTC Motorglider (February 2004, page 19)
Holighaus Way (October 2004, page 32)
HP-18W Sailplane (July 2003, page 24)
HpH 304C Wasp Standard Class Sailplane (April 2003, page 22)
IS-29D2 15-Meter Sport Sailplane (March 1998, page 27)
J-4 Javelin Sailplane (January 1992, page 25)
Jantar 1 and 2A Sailplanes (April 1977, page 40)
Jantar 1 and 2 Sailplanes (July 1979, page 20)
Janus Sailplane (March 1979, page 14)
Krosno KR-03A Two-Place Trainer (February 1993, page 18)
L-23 Blanik (February 1996, page 13)
LAK-12 20.4-Meter Sailplane (July 1996, page 24)
LAK-17A Racing Class Sailplane (March 2001, page 25)
LAK-17A Racing Class Sailplane - Part II (July 2001, page 22)
Let L-33 Solo Sailplane (July 1995, page 23)
LS-3 Sailplane (November 1978, page 26)
LS-3-17 Sailplane (June 1980, page 26)
LS-3a Sailplane (February 1980, page 34)
LS-4a Sailplane (September 1984, page 14)
LS-4a Sailplane - Part II (March 1985, page 28)
LS-8a Standard Class Sailplane (July 1998, page 18)
Mini Nimbus Sailplane (December 1977, page 40)
Mosquito Sailplane (August 1979, page 36)
Nimbus III Sailplane (December 1982, page 18)
PIK-20D-78 Sailplane (January 1979, page 26)
PIK-20 Flight Polar Evaluation Part I (July 1978, page 18)
PIK-20 Flight Polar Evaluation Part II (August 1978, page 46)
PW-5 Sailplane, Development of a total Energy System (April 1998, page 16)
PW-5 World Class Sailplane (April 1997, page 19)
PW-6 Sailplane (May 2004, page 20)
Russia 12.6 Meter World Class Sailplane (March 1995, page 21)
Russia AC-4 Performance (June 1997, page 30)
Russia AC-4c Sailplane (September 2001, page 28)
Schweizer 1-26 Wing - Oil Flow Study (May 1997, page 16)
Schweizer 1-26E Sailplane (February 1977, page 32)
Schweizer 1-35 Sailplane (January 1977, page 40)
Schweizer 1-36 Sailplane (March 1982, page 36)
Silent-IN (May 2003, page 33)
Slingsby Vega Sailplane (February 1981, page 24)
Sparrowhawk Sailplane (July 2002, page 26)
Stemme S-10 Motorglider (January 1994, page 28)
Super Ximango Motorglider (December 1996, page 35)
SZD-50-3 Puchacz Trainer, Additional Spin Testing (June 1994, page 17)
SZD-50-3 Puchacz Two Place Trainer (April 1994, page 29)
SZD-55 Sailplane (March 1992, page 24)
SZD-56-1 DIANA (April 1999, page 28)
SZD-59 Acro Sailplane (June 1998, page 18)
Ventus 16.6 Sailplane (April 1984, page 20)
Ventus 2b, Part 1 (April 1996, page 31)
Ventus 2b, Part 2 (June 1996, page 16)
Ventus A Sailplane (December 1981, page 34)
Ventus B Sailplane (June 1982, page 26)
Zuni Sailplane (September 1979, page 35)
The Effects of Wing Surface Distortions on the Performance of a Modern Sailplane (May 1998, page 23)
Sailplane Thermaling Procedures (February 1997, page 36)

[Moshe Braner]

On 5/31/2021 3:12 PM, Semantics Michael wrote:
> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 10:03:03 AM UTC-5, jp wrote:
>> Are the Dick Johnson flight test reports on the new SSA website?
>
> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 2:08:23 PM UTC-5, Semantics Michael wrote:
>> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 10:03:03 AM UTC-5, jp wrote:
>>> Are the Dick Johnson flight test reports on the new SSA website?
>
> Yes, JP. After you log in, go to "News".....then, "Soaring Magazine online". On that page you'll see the link to the reports in the upper left--hand corner...

I am still awaiting the promised info on how to login to that area. I
can still login (over and over) to what is really the old web site
(members.ssa.org), but the Dick Johnson Reports page there is sending me
to the Magazine Online page which wants the newfangled login.

[jp]

On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 12:12:35 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 10:03:03 AM UTC-5, jp wrote:
> > Are the Dick Johnson flight test reports on the new SSA website?
> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 2:08:23 PM UTC-5, Semantics Michael wrote:
> > On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 10:03:03 AM UTC-5, jp wrote:
> > > Are the Dick Johnson flight test reports on the new SSA website?
> Yes, JP. After you log in, go to "News".....then, "Soaring Magazine online". On that page you'll see the link to the reports in the upper left--hand corner. If you are unable to log in, let us know which reports you're interested in and one of us will hopefully forward them on. Note that some of his findings differ significantly from the Idaflieg tests of the same models.. Not surprising as they use different tools for their measurements. Here's the list from SM:
> Mike
>
> 304CZ Sailplane (July 2000, page 30)
> ASH-25 Sailplane (May 1988, page 34)
> ASH-26E Self-Launching 18-Meter Sailplane (September 1995, page 21)
> ASK-21 Sailplane (July 1985, page 16)
> ASW-19 Sailplane (August 1977, page 30)
> ASW-20 Sailplane (May 1978, page 21)
> ASW-22 Sailplane (April 1983, page 22)
> ASW-24W Sailplane (May 1994, page 35)
> DG-101G Sailplane (May 1985, page 14)
> DG-200 Sailplane (July 1980, page 20)
> DG-300 Flight test (August 1985, page 14)
> DG-600 Sailplane (August 1989, page 12)
> DG-1000S Sailplane (September 2003, page 14)
> Discus 2B Standard Class Racer (May 1999, page 32)
> Discus Sailplane (February 1986, page 14)
> Drag Test Instrument (October 1983, page 28)
> Duo Discus Sailplane (March 1999, page 28)
> Genesis 2 Sailplane (March 2000, page 14)
> Glasflugel 604 Modifications (November 1977, page 36)
> Glasflugel 604 Sailplane (October 1976, page 40)
> Grob 103C Twin III Sailplane (March 1990, page 49)
> Grob G-109B Motorglider (May 1986, page 14)
> Grob 102 Club IIIb Sailplane (January 1984, page 18)
> Grob 103 Twin II Sailplane (February 1983, page 36)
> HK36TTC Motorglider (February 2004, page 19)
> Holighaus Way (October 2004, page 32)
> HP-18W Sailplane (July 2003, page 24)
> HpH 304C Wasp Standard Class Sailplane (April 2003, page 22)
> IS-29D2 15-Meter Sport Sailplane (March 1998, page 27)
> J-4 Javelin Sailplane (January 1992, page 25)
> Jantar 1 and 2A Sailplanes (April 1977, page 40)
> Jantar 1 and 2 Sailplanes (July 1979, page 20)
> Janus Sailplane (March 1979, page 14)
> Krosno KR-03A Two-Place Trainer (February 1993, page 18)
> L-23 Blanik (February 1996, page 13)
> LAK-12 20.4-Meter Sailplane (July 1996, page 24)
> LAK-17A Racing Class Sailplane (March 2001, page 25)
> LAK-17A Racing Class Sailplane - Part II (July 2001, page 22)
> Let L-33 Solo Sailplane (July 1995, page 23)
> LS-3 Sailplane (November 1978, page 26)
> LS-3-17 Sailplane (June 1980, page 26)
> LS-3a Sailplane (February 1980, page 34)
> LS-4a Sailplane (September 1984, page 14)
> LS-4a Sailplane - Part II (March 1985, page 28)
> LS-8a Standard Class Sailplane (July 1998, page 18)
> Mini Nimbus Sailplane (December 1977, page 40)
> Mosquito Sailplane (August 1979, page 36)
> Nimbus III Sailplane (December 1982, page 18)
> PIK-20D-78 Sailplane (January 1979, page 26)
> PIK-20 Flight Polar Evaluation Part I (July 1978, page 18)
> PIK-20 Flight Polar Evaluation Part II (August 1978, page 46)
> PW-5 Sailplane, Development of a total Energy System (April 1998, page 16)
> PW-5 World Class Sailplane (April 1997, page 19)
> PW-6 Sailplane (May 2004, page 20)
> Russia 12.6 Meter World Class Sailplane (March 1995, page 21)
> Russia AC-4 Performance (June 1997, page 30)
> Russia AC-4c Sailplane (September 2001, page 28)
> Schweizer 1-26 Wing - Oil Flow Study (May 1997, page 16)
> Schweizer 1-26E Sailplane (February 1977, page 32)
> Schweizer 1-35 Sailplane (January 1977, page 40)
> Schweizer 1-36 Sailplane (March 1982, page 36)
> Silent-IN (May 2003, page 33)
> Slingsby Vega Sailplane (February 1981, page 24)
> Sparrowhawk Sailplane (July 2002, page 26)
> Stemme S-10 Motorglider (January 1994, page 28)
> Super Ximango Motorglider (December 1996, page 35)
> SZD-50-3 Puchacz Trainer, Additional Spin Testing (June 1994, page 17)
> SZD-50-3 Puchacz Two Place Trainer (April 1994, page 29)
> SZD-55 Sailplane (March 1992, page 24)
> SZD-56-1 DIANA (April 1999, page 28)
> SZD-59 Acro Sailplane (June 1998, page 18)
> Ventus 16.6 Sailplane (April 1984, page 20)
> Ventus 2b, Part 1 (April 1996, page 31)
> Ventus 2b, Part 2 (June 1996, page 16)
> Ventus A Sailplane (December 1981, page 34)
> Ventus B Sailplane (June 1982, page 26)
> Zuni Sailplane (September 1979, page 35)
> The Effects of Wing Surface Distortions on the Performance of a Modern Sailplane (May 1998, page 23)
> Sailplane Thermaling Procedures (February 1997, page 36)

Thank you Michael. Unfortunately I cannot see a link in the upper left of the Soaring Magazine page. I'm probably doing something wrong.

[Semantics Michael]

> Thank you Michael. Unfortunately I cannot see a link in the upper left of the Soaring Magazine page. I'm probably doing something wrong.

Try this link, clic on "Start Exploring" .....log-in if requested, then look for the reports.
https://magazine.ssa.org/ or: https://magazine.ssa.org/issues

If you're not an SSA member, I can either provide my user/pass or send you individual reports
Mike

[Frank Whiteley]

On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 1:29:32 PM UTC-6, Moshe Braner wrote:
> On 5/31/2021 3:12 PM, Semantics Michael wrote:
> > On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 10:03:03 AM UTC-5, jp wrote:
> >> Are the Dick Johnson flight test reports on the new SSA website?
> >
> > On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 2:08:23 PM UTC-5, Semantics Michael wrote:
> >> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 10:03:03 AM UTC-5, jp wrote:
> >>> Are the Dick Johnson flight test reports on the new SSA website?
> >
> > Yes, JP. After you log in, go to "News".....then, "Soaring Magazine online". On that page you'll see the link to the reports in the upper left--hand corner...
>
> I am still awaiting the promised info on how to login to that area. I
> can still login (over and over) to what is really the old web site
> (members.ssa.org), but the Dick Johnson Reports page there is sending me
> to the Magazine Online page which wants the newfangled login.
Send an e-mail to
Soaring Magazine Online is an SSA member resource. There is a link to all 'Johnson Reports' for user convenience.

[Dan Daly[_2_]]

On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 5:39:10 PM UTC-4, Frank Whiteley wrote:
> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 1:29:32 PM UTC-6, Moshe Braner wrote:
> > On 5/31/2021 3:12 PM, Semantics Michael wrote:
> > > On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 10:03:03 AM UTC-5, jp wrote:
> > >> Are the Dick Johnson flight test reports on the new SSA website?
> > >
> > > On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 2:08:23 PM UTC-5, Semantics Michael wrote:
> > >> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 10:03:03 AM UTC-5, jp wrote:
> > >>> Are the Dick Johnson flight test reports on the new SSA website?
> > >
> > > Yes, JP. After you log in, go to "News".....then, "Soaring Magazine online". On that page you'll see the link to the reports in the upper left--hand corner...
> >
> > I am still awaiting the promised info on how to login to that area. I
> > can still login (over and over) to what is really the old web site
> > (members.ssa.org), but the Dick Johnson Reports page there is sending me
> > to the Magazine Online page which wants the newfangled login.
> Send an e-mail to
> Soaring Magazine Online is an SSA member resource. There is a link to all 'Johnson Reports' for user convenience.

I use "The wayback machine" to search for old links. You might try this:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180905182149/http://www.ssa.org/SoaringMagazine?show=blog&id=2395
It's a link from 2018.

A link for the wayback machine is: https://web.archive.org/ Provide a URL, it offers dates that an archive was made. Click on one, then navigate as normal. I searched on "ssa.org".
Dan

[jp]

On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 2:00:53 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> > Thank you Michael. Unfortunately I cannot see a link in the upper left of the Soaring Magazine page. I'm probably doing something wrong.
> Try this link, clic on "Start Exploring" .....log-in if requested, then look for the reports.
> https://magazine.ssa.org/ or: https://magazine.ssa.org/issues
>
> If you're not an SSA member, I can either provide my user/pass or send you individual reports
> Mike

Thank you Mike. That works fine. I am an SSA member so the logon was straight forward.

Jim

[Moshe Braner]

On 5/31/2021 5:39 PM, Frank Whiteley wrote:
> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 1:29:32 PM UTC-6, Moshe Braner wrote:
>> On 5/31/2021 3:12 PM, Semantics Michael wrote:
>>> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 10:03:03 AM UTC-5, jp wrote:
>>>> Are the Dick Johnson flight test reports on the new SSA website?
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 2:08:23 PM UTC-5, Semantics Michael wrote:
>>>> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 10:03:03 AM UTC-5, jp wrote:
>>>>> Are the Dick Johnson flight test reports on the new SSA website?
>>>
>>> Yes, JP. After you log in, go to "News".....then, "Soaring Magazine online". On that page you'll see the link to the reports in the upper left--hand corner...
>>
>> I am still awaiting the promised info on how to login to that area. I
>> can still login (over and over) to what is really the old web site
>> (members.ssa.org), but the Dick Johnson Reports page there is sending me
>> to the Magazine Online page which wants the newfangled login.
> Send an e-mail to
> Soaring Magazine Online is an SSA member resource. There is a link to all 'Johnson Reports' for user convenience.
>

Well turns out that the magazine login, at
https://magazine.ssa.org/
still uses my old login name and password, even though it is separate
from the "old web site" login at
https://members.ssa.org/
So there are at least 3 separate logins within the SSA web site, and
that's not counting the "store".

Once I got into the online magazine, clicked on the big "archives"
button, then on the "Johnson Reports" entry in the navigation menu in
the top left side of the page, and there it is!

[Moshe Braner]

On 5/31/2021 7:25 PM, Moshe Braner wrote:
> On 5/31/2021 5:39 PM, Frank Whiteley wrote:
>> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 1:29:32 PM UTC-6, Moshe Braner wrote:
>>> On 5/31/2021 3:12 PM, Semantics Michael wrote:
>>>> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 10:03:03 AM UTC-5, jp wrote:
>>>>> Are the Dick Johnson flight test reports on the new SSA website?
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 2:08:23 PM UTC-5, Semantics Michael wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 10:03:03 AM UTC-5, jp wrote:
>>>>>> Are the Dick Johnson flight test reports on the new SSA website?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, JP. After you log in, go to "News".....then, "Soaring Magazine
>>>> online". On that page you'll see the link to the reports in the
>>>> upper left--hand corner...
>>>
>>> I am still awaiting the promised info on how to login to that area. I
>>> can still login (over and over) to what is really the old web site
>>> (members.ssa.org), but the Dick Johnson Reports page there is sending me
>>> to the Magazine Online page which wants the newfangled login.
>> Send an e-mail to
>> Soaring Magazine Online is an SSA member resource.Â* There is a link to
>> all 'Johnson Reports' for user convenience.
>>
>
> Well turns out that the magazine login, at
> Â*Â* https://magazine.ssa.org/
> still uses my old login name and password, even though it is separate
> from the "old web site" login at
> Â*Â* https://members.ssa.org/
> So there are at least 3 separate logins within the SSA web site, and
> that's not counting the "store".
>
> Once I got into the online magazine, clicked on the big "archives"
> button, then on the "Johnson Reports" entry in the navigation menu in
> the top left side of the page, and there it is!

Ahem, but when I click on one of the links, to get a specific Johnson
report (or Soaring Mag issue), not much happens. I get a blank page
that says "loading" forever. Tried two browsers.

Before the "new web site", I figured out that the URL for an issue was
something like this:
https://www.ssa.org/Archive/ViewIssue.aspx?year=1988&month=02
and changing it to be like this:
https://www.ssa.org/Archive/Issue.aspx?year=1988&month=02
worked, result in the PDF downloading, bypassing the "viewer".

But now in the "new web site" the URL looks like this:
https://magazine.ssa.org/viewer?y=2003&m=4&p=24&o=0
and it doesn't work and I can't seem to find a way to convert it to a
download link. If the viewer works for you, let me know what URL the
download button within it goes to?