Well then, what about trailing antenna's?

[john wier]

If the big aluminum foil ears on a whip antenna doesn't help, what
about those trailing wire antenna's that are trailed back behing the
aircraft a good distance. I've seen them on Aero Commanders (500
series). I might hook up a spool of wire and one of those drag devices
that pull it out the tail of the airplane and trail it back a quarter
of a mile or so. I could have enormous transmitting ability. Make a
weak radio a super radio. I wonder if it would attract lightening
though.

[RST Engineering]

Will somebody please take this bubba out and shoot him. Please?

Jim

<john wier> wrote in message
...
> If the big aluminum foil ears on a whip antenna doesn't help

[Luke Scharf]

RST Engineering wrote:
> Will somebody please take this bubba out and shoot him. Please?

Someone should at least explain the signigicance of 1/4 wavelength WRT
antennas to him first.

-Luke

[john wier]

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:48:53 -0400, Luke Scharf >
wrote:

>RST Engineering wrote:
>> Will somebody please take this bubba out and shoot him. Please?
>
>Someone should at least explain the signigicance of 1/4 wavelength WRT
>antennas to him first.
>
>-Luke

1/4 wave antenna's are hogwash. They barely work. What you need is
"complete wave" or "full wave" With my trailing antenna, I'll have the
equivalent of many full wave antenna's end to end.

[W P Dixon]

What's a bubba?

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech


"Luke Scharf" > wrote in message
...
> RST Engineering wrote:
>> Will somebody please take this bubba out and shoot him. Please?
>
> Someone should at least explain the signigicance of 1/4 wavelength WRT
> antennas to him first.
>
> -Luke

[john wier]

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:48:53 -0400, Luke Scharf >
wrote:

>RST Engineering wrote:
>> Will somebody please take this bubba out and shoot him. Please?
>
>Someone should at least explain the signigicance of 1/4 wavelength WRT
>antennas to him first.
>
>-Luke

I did miss one thing though, I read that vhf needs a certain amount of
the antenna in a vertical direction, so my trailing antenna would be
too horizontal. I plan to put a lead sinker on the end of the wire so
the tail will hang down a bit and give me the vertical orientation I
need. Wouldn't that work?

[COLIN LAMB]

The 1/4 mile trailing wire works very well if you put a tin can and a button
on the end.

And, the old story is that if some part of the aircraft is still on the
ground it is not flying, which means you do not need pilot's license. Then,
the problem is that if you are not flying a real plane, you do not have an
automatic aircraft radio license. Since you do not have a radio license,
the tin can will work to talk to the ground. Just circle around a point so
that the end stays at the same point, so you can talk to the guy on the
ground.

This would work especially well during a lightning storm at night, because
the guy on ground will become a beacon as well.

The military even experimented with underground antennas. You might try one
of those on your aircraft.

Colin

[john smith]

W P Dixon wrote:
> What's a bubba?

Patrick, you're in Tennessee, right?
Take a short flight to NC, SC, GA or AL.
Ask around, the FBO you stop at may even have one on staff.

[W P Dixon]

OHHHH one of those kind, I'm sorry here we call them dumb yankees ;) The
ones down here we dreadfully have to call family ! HAHA

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"john smith" > wrote in message
...
>W P Dixon wrote:
>> What's a bubba?
>
> Patrick, you're in Tennessee, right?
> Take a short flight to NC, SC, GA or AL.
> Ask around, the FBO you stop at may even have one on staff.

[tedstriker]

On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 02:55:16 GMT, "COLIN LAMB" >
wrote:

>The 1/4 mile trailing wire works very well if you put a tin can and a button
>on the end.
>
>And, the old story is that if some part of the aircraft is still on the
>ground it is not flying, which means you do not need pilot's license. Then,
>the problem is that if you are not flying a real plane, you do not have an
>automatic aircraft radio license. Since you do not have a radio license,
>the tin can will work to talk to the ground. Just circle around a point so
>that the end stays at the same point, so you can talk to the guy on the
>ground.
>
>This would work especially well during a lightning storm at night, because
>the guy on ground will become a beacon as well.
>
>The military even experimented with underground antennas. You might try one
>of those on your aircraft.
>
>Colin
>

Your whole idea is rediculous! nonsense! I'm seriously trying to
improve 2-way radio reception and transmission. They only allow a
miserly 5 watts or so of power for light plane transmitters, so we
have to be creative. The trailing antenna will give us radio power
like an airliner has.

[tedstriker]

On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 00:41:28 -0400, tedstriker
> wrote:

>On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 02:55:16 GMT, "COLIN LAMB" >
>wrote:
>
>>The 1/4 mile trailing wire works very well if you put a tin can and a button
>>on the end.
>>
>>And, the old story is that if some part of the aircraft is still on the
>>ground it is not flying, which means you do not need pilot's license. Then,
>>the problem is that if you are not flying a real plane, you do not have an
>>automatic aircraft radio license. Since you do not have a radio license,
>>the tin can will work to talk to the ground. Just circle around a point so
>>that the end stays at the same point, so you can talk to the guy on the
>>ground.
>>
>>This would work especially well during a lightning storm at night, because
>>the guy on ground will become a beacon as well.
>>
>>The military even experimented with underground antennas. You might try one
>>of those on your aircraft.
>>
>>Colin
>>
>
>Your whole idea is rediculous! nonsense! I'm seriously trying to
>improve 2-way radio reception and transmission. They only allow a
>miserly 5 watts or so of power for light plane transmitters, so we
>have to be creative. The trailing antenna will give us radio power
>like an airliner has.

I couldn't resist to play along with this nonesense. Are these ideas
of Wier real?

[Robert Bonomi]

In article >, john wier <> wrote:
>On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:48:53 -0400, Luke Scharf >
>wrote:
>
>>RST Engineering wrote:
>>> Will somebody please take this bubba out and shoot him. Please?
>>
>>Someone should at least explain the signigicance of 1/4 wavelength WRT
>>antennas to him first.
>>
>>-Luke
>
>1/4 wave antenna's are hogwash. They barely work. What you need is
>"complete wave" or "full wave" With my trailing antenna, I'll have the
>equivalent of many full wave antenna's end to end.

quarter-wave (actually any _odd_ multiple of a 1/4 wavelength) antenna's
must be perpendicular to, and with one adjacent to, a decent 'ground plane'.
When *your* plane is not on the ground, it's not surprising that your antenna
doesn't work worth a d*mn.

'Dipole' transmitting antennas need an odd multiple of 1/2 wavelength on
_each_side_ of the feed-point, for optimum performance. Be sure to let
us know how you fare at getting the other half out in *front* of the plane.

[Darrel Toepfer]

tedstriker wrote:

> I couldn't resist to play along with this nonesense. Are these ideas
> of Wier real?

Both John Wier and yourself use:
Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 & Giganews...

I think you forgot to change your identity...

[RST Engineering]

I'm getting the uneasy feeling that "tedstriker" is either a troll or a
pilot wannabee that is singularly misinformed. "They" do NOT allow a
miserly five watts in the COM band. The maximum carrier power for a VHF COM
transmitter is 55 watts, be it airliner or ultralight. Please stop your
"rediculous!" (sic) postings if you don't have the technical knowledge to
post something approximating the truth.

Jim



"tedstriker" > wrote in message
...
>
> Your whole idea is rediculous! nonsense! I'm seriously trying to
> improve 2-way radio reception and transmission. They only allow a
> miserly 5 watts or so of power for light plane transmitters, so we
> have to be creative. The trailing antenna will give us radio power
> like an airliner has.

[videoguy]

"Darrel Toepfer" > wrote in message
...
> tedstriker wrote:
>
>> I couldn't resist to play along with this nonesense. Are these ideas
>> of Wier real?
>
> Both John Wier and yourself use:
> Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 & Giganews...

> I think you forgot to change your identity...

I see Darrel that you caught that too.

Why can't trolls at least remember who they are pretending to be? Seems
that it shouldn't be all that difficult. Maybe they could use Magic Markers
(TM) to label each tin foil hat so they'd know which 'personality' they are
at that moment.

Just a thought.

GWK

[Darrel Toepfer]

videoguy wrote:

> I see Darrel that you caught that too.

I only look into it when it gets pretty obvious...

> Why can't trolls at least remember who they are pretending to be? Seems
> that it shouldn't be all that difficult. Maybe they could use Magic Markers
> (TM) to label each tin foil hat so they'd know which 'personality' they are
> at that moment.
>
> Just a thought.

I just have a feeling that its gonna be a long summer...

[Blueskies]

"RST Engineering" > wrote in message ...
> Will somebody please take this bubba out and shoot him. Please?
>
> Jim
>
> <john wier> wrote in message ...
>> If the big aluminum foil ears on a whip antenna doesn't help
>
>


A nice long period low frequency shooting....