Short 12,000 ft runway

[Charles Talleyrand]

I fly a Cessna 150. Our airport has one runway; it's 12,300 feet by
150 feet. The overruns are about 1000 feet on each end. We often have
density altitudes of over 1.4 thousand feet.

Should I be worried?

-Thanks
-The Cautious Pilot

[Tobias Schnell]

On 24 Jun 2005 23:24:20 -0700, "Charles Talleyrand"
> wrote:

>I fly a Cessna 150. Our airport has one runway; it's 12,300 feet by
>150 feet. The overruns are about 1000 feet on each end. We often have
>density altitudes of over 1.4 thousand feet.
>Should I be worried?

Definitely! 150 ft are somewhat short for a 150 at gross, especially
at this DA. 12000 ft width are more than enough, though.

Tobias

[Darrel Toepfer]

Tobias Schnell wrote:

> Charles Talleyrand trolled us with this gem:
>
>>I fly a Cessna 150. Our airport has one runway; it's 12,300 feet by
>>150 feet. The overruns are about 1000 feet on each end. We often have
>>density altitudes of over 1.4 thousand feet.
>>Should I be worried?
>
> Definitely! 150 ft are somewhat short for a 150 at gross, especially
> at this DA. 12000 ft width are more than enough, though.

The good news is that you can do enough touch and goes on one pass to
meet the 90 day requirements...

[kontiki]

Charles Talleyrand wrote:
> Should I be worried?
>
> -Thanks
> -The Cautious Pilot
>

You might get spoiled by that 2 1/2 mile runway. Better plan fly to
another airport with a short runway once in a while for practice.

[Mike 'Flyin'8']

Boy that runway sure is short, but look how wide it is!!!

>On 24 Jun 2005 23:24:20 -0700, "Charles Talleyrand"
> wrote:
>
>>I fly a Cessna 150. Our airport has one runway; it's 12,300 feet by
>>150 feet. The overruns are about 1000 feet on each end. We often have
>>density altitudes of over 1.4 thousand feet.
>>Should I be worried?
>
>Definitely! 150 ft are somewhat short for a 150 at gross, especially
>at this DA. 12000 ft width are more than enough, though.
>
>Tobias


Mike Alexander
PP-ASEL
Temecula, CA
See my online aerial photo album at
http://flying.4alexanders.com

[Darrel Toepfer]

Mike 'Flyin'8' wrote:

> Boy that runway sure is short, but look how wide it is!!!

Hard to read the numbers when they are so wide...

[Hilton]

Darrel Toepfer wrote:
> Tobias Schnell wrote:
>
> > Charles Talleyrand trolled us with this gem:
> >
> >>I fly a Cessna 150. Our airport has one runway; it's 12,300 feet by
> >>150 feet. The overruns are about 1000 feet on each end. We often have
> >>density altitudes of over 1.4 thousand feet.
> >>Should I be worried?
> >
> > Definitely! 150 ft are somewhat short for a 150 at gross, especially
> > at this DA. 12000 ft width are more than enough, though.
>
> The good news is that you can do enough touch and goes on one pass to
> meet the 90 day requirements...

And by the time the 150 gets to the other end, you could satisfy your night
currency too. ;)

Hilton

[Stubby]

Hilton wrote:

> Darrel Toepfer wrote:
>
>>Tobias Schnell wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Charles Talleyrand trolled us with this gem:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I fly a Cessna 150. Our airport has one runway; it's 12,300 feet by
>>>>150 feet. The overruns are about 1000 feet on each end. We often have
>>>>density altitudes of over 1.4 thousand feet.
>>>>Should I be worried?
>>>
>>>Definitely! 150 ft are somewhat short for a 150 at gross, especially
>>>at this DA. 12000 ft width are more than enough, though.
>>
>>The good news is that you can do enough touch and goes on one pass to
>>meet the 90 day requirements...
>
>
> And by the time the 150 gets to the other end, you could satisfy your night
> currency too. ;)

And you could satisfy the Commercial Glider requirement by landing
width-wise on that runway!

[Tony]

You're not of of those guys who land a 150 on the numbers and taxi to
the turnoff a mile away, are you? that's 3 minutes at 20 mph (is that
too fast to taxi a 150? It's been a long time). I'd have to go around.
Twice!

[Mortimer Schnerd, RN]

Charles Talleyrand wrote:
> I fly a Cessna 150. Our airport has one runway; it's 12,300 feet by
> 150 feet. The overruns are about 1000 feet on each end. We often have
> density altitudes of over 1.4 thousand feet.
>
> Should I be worried?


Oprócz spojrzenie jak szeroki to jest!

[George Patterson]

Charles Talleyrand wrote:
> I fly a Cessna 150. Our airport has one runway; it's 12,300 feet by
> 150 feet. The overruns are about 1000 feet on each end. We often have
> density altitudes of over 1.4 thousand feet.
>
> Should I be worried?

Yes. 14000 feet is well over the service ceiling of that aircraft.

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.

[Robert A. Barker]

"Hilton" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Darrel Toepfer wrote:
>> Tobias Schnell wrote:
>>
>> > Charles Talleyrand trolled us with this gem:
>> >
>> >>I fly a Cessna 150. Our airport has one runway; it's 12,300 feet by
>> >>150 feet. The overruns are about 1000 feet on each end. We often have
>> >>density altitudes of over 1.4 thousand feet.
>> >>Should I be worried?
>> >
>> > Definitely! 150 ft are somewhat short for a 150 at gross, especially
>> > at this DA. 12000 ft width are more than enough, though.
>>
>> The good news is that you can do enough touch and goes on one pass to
>> meet the 90 day requirements...
>
> And by the time the 150 gets to the other end, you could satisfy your
> night
> currency too. ;)
>
> Hilton
>
Oh Hilton you have cut me to the very quick.I hope my
150 does not read r.a.p. tonight :-))

Bob Barker N8749S

[Peter Duniho]

"George Patterson" > wrote in message
news:uQnve.181$bz6.121@trndny06...
> [...]
> Yes. 14000 feet is well over the service ceiling of that aircraft.

I'm all for smart-ass answers to smart-ass questions, but we ought to at
least get the math right. :)

14000 feet is 14 thousand feet or 1.4 ten thousand feet. The described
density altitude in the original post is 1400 feet.

[George Patterson]

Peter Duniho wrote:
>
> I'm all for smart-ass answers to smart-ass questions, but we ought to at
> least get the math right. :)

Yeah, it's late, and math was never my forte.

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.

[Charles Talleyrand]

> You're not of of those guys who land a 150 on the numbers and taxi to
> the turnoff a mile away, are you? that's 3 minutes at 20 mph (is that
> too fast to taxi a 150? It's been a long time). I'd have to go around.
> Twice!

I went flying today. I landed by the 7,000 foot marker and still had a
half mile taxi. It would be more effecient if I would land at the
10,000 foot marker but my brain cannot do it! I cannot let more than
7,000 feet of runway pass below me without making contact.

[Tony]

I can appreciate that, Charles. At my home base I'm comfortable flying
an approach to a point 1500 feet before my turnoff (that's in a
Mooney), but on other fields I approach closer to the threshold end
then add enough power to fly 10 feet above the centerline until the
turnoff is close enough to cut the power and enter the flair. I figure,
it's an airplane, I'd rather fly than drive. The other reality for me
is, home base is pretty busy, I like to get out of the way pretty fast.

The highest priority is always safe flying, I think what you're doing
is (marginally) safer than what I do. It's that old truism, isn't it,
about runway behind or altitude above?

[Newps]

Tony wrote:

> I can appreciate that, Charles. At my home base I'm comfortable flying
> an approach to a point 1500 feet before my turnoff (that's in a
> Mooney), but on other fields I approach closer to the threshold end
> then add enough power to fly 10 feet above the centerline until the
> turnoff is close enough to cut the power and enter the flair. I figure,
> it's an airplane, I'd rather fly than drive. The other reality for me
> is, home base is pretty busy, I like to get out of the way pretty fast.

You want to practice and actually learn something? Then turn your base
at midfield. Find an instersection or something identifiable and make
that the end of the runway. I learned a long time ago that when
practicing for the engine out landing never turn base past the threshold
of the runway of any runway that is 2000 feet or more.

[Sport Pilot]

An aeroclub I once was a member of had a C-152 with a VSTOL kit
attached. Wing cuffs, aileron gap sealer, wing tips, and maybe more
mods. It would glide well below the book stall speed. I recall that
plane was very easy to plant the wheels wherever you wanted. Just fly
with the stall warning horn buzzing just a foot or two above the runway
and pull the throttle.

It gave new meaning to landing on the numbers. I would fly till the
nose was at the threshold, pull the throttle, slam on the brakes, and
at a full stop the tail of the plane would still be over the runway
numbers!