How to build a P-38 ? ? ?

[Hans-Marc Olsen]

I want to build a P-38 to shoot some Zeros next year at the
60-year-end-of-WWII celebrations.What do I need for a good P-38 ?

[QDurham]

>What do I need for a good P-38 ?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!

[Ron Wanttaja]

On 17 Nov 2004 22:34:59 -0800, (Hans-Marc Olsen)
wrote:

>I want to build a P-38 to shoot some Zeros next year at the
>60-year-end-of-WWII celebrations.What do I need for a good P-38 ?

Ask these guys:

http://www.team-38.com/8p38_specification.html

Ron Wanttaja

[Matt Whiting]

Hans-Marc Olsen wrote:

> I want to build a P-38 to shoot some Zeros next year at the
> 60-year-end-of-WWII celebrations.What do I need for a good P-38 ?

A brain.

[Hugh Prescott]

Several restorable ones in Greenland in cold storage.

Hugh

"Hans-Marc Olsen" > wrote in message
m...
> I want to build a P-38 to shoot some Zeros next year at the
> 60-year-end-of-WWII celebrations.What do I need for a good P-38 ?

[JohnT.]

This guy is trolling the groups again. Ignore it.

[G EddieA95]

>
>Several restorable [P38s] in Greenland in cold storage.
>
>Hugh
>

Removed years ago, IIRC, ISTS.

[B2431]

>From: (G EddieA95)
>Date: 11/18/2004 16:29 Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>>
>>Several restorable [P38s] in Greenland in cold storage.
>>
>>Hugh
>>
>
>Removed years ago, IIRC, ISTS.

That would be Glacier Girl. The rest of them are crushed.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

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karel wrote:
> "Hans-Marc Olsen" > wrote in message
> m...
>
>>I want to build a P-38 to shoot some Zeros next year at the
>>60-year-end-of-WWII celebrations.What do I need for a good P-38 ?
>
>
> faith
> lots of
>
>
check this
http://www.chooseyouritem.com/airplanes/files/7500/7513.html
http://shdesigns.org/p-38plans.html
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[Dave Hyde]

> What do I need for a good P-38 ?

It's really a lot simpler than the rest of the folks in
RAH would have you believe:

1) Take a couple of big chunks of aluminum and steel.
2) Stick 'em together
3) Mill away everything that doesn't look like a P-38
4) Stick on a few bits of rubber and bakelite
5) Go flying

Dave '1-2-3' Hyde

[Bob]

"Matt Whiting" > wrote in message
...
> Hans-Marc Olsen wrote:
>
>> I want to build a P-38 to shoot some Zeros next year at the
>> 60-year-end-of-WWII celebrations.What do I need for a good P-38 ?
>
> A brain.
>
LOL! that and a pile of time and money.
Bob

[Andy McKenzie]

"Dave Hyde" > wrote in message
...
> > What do I need for a good P-38 ?
>
> It's really a lot simpler than the rest of the folks in
> RAH would have you believe:
>
> 1) Take a couple of big chunks of aluminum and steel.
> 2) Stick 'em together
> 3) Mill away everything that doesn't look like a P-38
> 4) Stick on a few bits of rubber and bakelite
> 5) Go flying
>
> Dave '1-2-3' Hyde
>
>
>
Or you could build it from plastic - just carve the outline of a P38 into a
mould, fill the mould with plastic, add acouple of engines and the guns and
fire away!

Andy

[Sean Trost]

actually I think It's Dave 1-2-3-4-5 Hyde................
Sean "Lameshot" Trost

Dave Hyde wrote:
>>What do I need for a good P-38 ?
>
>
> It's really a lot simpler than the rest of the folks in
> RAH would have you believe:
>
> 1) Take a couple of big chunks of aluminum and steel.
> 2) Stick 'em together
> 3) Mill away everything that doesn't look like a P-38
> 4) Stick on a few bits of rubber and bakelite
> 5) Go flying
>
> Dave '1-2-3' Hyde
>
>
>

[Bob Kuykendall]

earlier, (B2431) wrote:

> That would be Glacier Girl. The rest of them are crushed.

It's more pleasant to just say that they're undergoing hardware compression...

Bob K.
http://www.hpaircraft.com

[B2431]

>From: (Bob Kuykendall)
>Date: 11/19/2004 19:11 Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>earlier, (B2431) wrote:
>
>> That would be Glacier Girl. The rest of them are crushed.
>
>It's more pleasant to just say that they're undergoing hardware
>compression...
>
>Bob K.
>http://www.hpaircraft.com

Along those lines "no outlet" is more pleasant than "dead end."

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[Hugh Prescott]

As I recall it was the C-47 that they found crushed. Not as tough as a
fighter.

Only one has been removed so far, One of the last comments by one of the
orig. savlage crew on the History?? channel special about Glacier Girl was
that there were 6? more up there if they wanted to restore another one.

Hugh



"B2431" > wrote in message
...
> >From: (G EddieA95)
> >Date: 11/18/2004 16:29 Central Standard Time
> >Message-id: >
> >
> >>
> >>Several restorable [P38s] in Greenland in cold storage.
> >>
> >>Hugh
> >>
> >
> >Removed years ago, IIRC, ISTS.
>
> That would be Glacier Girl. The rest of them are crushed.
>
> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[Corky Scott]

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 18:41:30 -0600, "Hugh Prescott"
> wrote:

>As I recall it was the C-47 that they found crushed. Not as tough as a
>fighter.
>
>Only one has been removed so far, One of the last comments by one of the
>orig. savlage crew on the History?? channel special about Glacier Girl was
>that there were 6? more up there if they wanted to restore another one.
>
>Hugh

Wasn't a C-47 Hugh, no need to go looking for those things, they are
still plying their trade in various areas around the globe, including
Nantuckett. What landed on the ice with the P-38's was a B-17,
possibly an E model but I'm not sure of that detail. Just looked at
the website, the original flight occured in July of 1942 so the B-17
was very likely a model E, which would make it very rare.

Not sure the rest of the P-38's are any more crushed than the one that
was brought up and restored.

Corky Scott

[Juan Jimenez]

(Hans-Marc Olsen) wrote in
m:

> I want to build a P-38 to shoot some Zeros next year at the
> 60-year-end-of-WWII celebrations.What do I need for a good P-38 ?

Get this guy to sell you plans for his airplane. He operates out of
Livermore Municipal in California.

http://www.bd5.com/expo27.jpg
http://www.bd5.com/expo28.jpg

It's 55% scale and uses Suzuki car engines, two of them.

You may now begin to salivate.

[B2431]

>From: Juan Jimenez
>Date: 11/25/2004 10:22 Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
<snip>
>
>You may now begin to salivate.

Not everyone has your nasty habits.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[Juan Jimenez]

Get over it, dannyboy.... :)

"B2431" > wrote in message
...
> >From: Juan Jimenez
>>Date: 11/25/2004 10:22 Central Standard Time
>>Message-id: >
>>
> <snip>
>>
>>You may now begin to salivate.
>
> Not everyone has your nasty habits.
>
> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[Juan Jimenez]

BTW, a quick check on Google Groups for your email confirms that your habits
are way nastier than anything I could cook up. Get over it, and stop
sticking your foot down your esophagus.

"B2431" > wrote in message
...
> >From: Juan Jimenez
>>Date: 11/25/2004 10:22 Central Standard Time
>>Message-id: >
>>
> <snip>
>>
>>You may now begin to salivate.
>
> Not everyone has your nasty habits.
>
> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[B2431]

>From: "Juan Jimenez"
>Date: 11/25/2004 21:11 Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>BTW, a quick check on Google Groups for your email confirms that your habits
>are way nastier than anything I could cook up. Get over it, and stop
>sticking your foot down your esophagus.
>
>"B2431" > wrote in message
> ...
>> >From: Juan Jimenez
>>>Date: 11/25/2004 10:22 Central Standard Time
>>>Message-id: >
>>>
>> <snip>
>>>
>>>You may now begin to salivate.
>>
>> Not everyone has your nasty habits.
>>
>> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired


I didn't realize posting in radio, electronics and military aviation was a
nasty habit.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[gregg]

Juan Jimenez wrote:

> (Hans-Marc Olsen) wrote in
> m:
>
>> I want to build a P-38 to shoot some Zeros next year at the
>> 60-year-end-of-WWII celebrations.What do I need for a good P-38 ?
>
> Get this guy to sell you plans for his airplane. He operates out of
> Livermore Municipal in California.
>
> http://www.bd5.com/expo27.jpg
> http://www.bd5.com/expo28.jpg
>
> It's 55% scale and uses Suzuki car engines, two of them.
>
> You may now begin to salivate.


Wow that looks really great. Thanks for posting the photos.

[Juan Jimenez]

You're welcome. If you can find him and get him to sell you plans, let me
know! :)

"gregg" > wrote in message
news:lDpqd.158156$HA.122242@attbi_s01...
> Juan Jimenez wrote:
>
>> (Hans-Marc Olsen) wrote in
>> m:
>>
>>> I want to build a P-38 to shoot some Zeros next year at the
>>> 60-year-end-of-WWII celebrations.What do I need for a good P-38 ?
>>
>> Get this guy to sell you plans for his airplane. He operates out of
>> Livermore Municipal in California.
>>
>> http://www.bd5.com/expo27.jpg
>> http://www.bd5.com/expo28.jpg
>>
>> It's 55% scale and uses Suzuki car engines, two of them.
>>
>> You may now begin to salivate.
>
>
> Wow that looks really great. Thanks for posting the photos.
>

[gregg]

Juan Jimenez wrote:

> You're welcome. If you can find him and get him to sell you plans, let me
> know! :)

Oh I wasn't looking for the plans. I'm just enjoying the thread and thought
the photos were great.

>
> "gregg" > wrote in message
> news:lDpqd.158156$HA.122242@attbi_s01...
>> Juan Jimenez wrote:
>>
>>> (Hans-Marc Olsen) wrote in
>>> m:
>>>
>>>> I want to build a P-38 to shoot some Zeros next year at the
>>>> 60-year-end-of-WWII celebrations.What do I need for a good P-38 ?
>>>
>>> Get this guy to sell you plans for his airplane. He operates out of
>>> Livermore Municipal in California.
>>>
>>> http://www.bd5.com/expo27.jpg
>>> http://www.bd5.com/expo28.jpg
>>>
>>> It's 55% scale and uses Suzuki car engines, two of them.
>>>
>>> You may now begin to salivate.
>>
>>
>> Wow that looks really great. Thanks for posting the photos.
>>

[Juan Jimenez]

You sure you don't want to give it a shot? :)

"gregg" > wrote in message
news:5SXqd.589236$mD.178916@attbi_s02...
> Juan Jimenez wrote:
>
>> You're welcome. If you can find him and get him to sell you plans, let me
>> know! :)
>
> Oh I wasn't looking for the plans. I'm just enjoying the thread and
> thought
> the photos were great.
>
>>
>> "gregg" > wrote in message
>> news:lDpqd.158156$HA.122242@attbi_s01...
>>> Juan Jimenez wrote:
>>>
>>>> (Hans-Marc Olsen) wrote in
>>>> m:
>>>>
>>>>> I want to build a P-38 to shoot some Zeros next year at the
>>>>> 60-year-end-of-WWII celebrations.What do I need for a good P-38 ?
>>>>
>>>> Get this guy to sell you plans for his airplane. He operates out of
>>>> Livermore Municipal in California.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.bd5.com/expo27.jpg
>>>> http://www.bd5.com/expo28.jpg
>>>>
>>>> It's 55% scale and uses Suzuki car engines, two of them.
>>>>
>>>> You may now begin to salivate.
>>>
>>>
>>> Wow that looks really great. Thanks for posting the photos.
>>>
>

[gregg]

Juan Jimenez wrote:

> You sure you don't want to give it a shot? :)


HAHAHAHA yeah I'm sure. I have enough projects as it is. Right now I'm
restoring an 85 yar old wooden sailboat., landscaping my back yard and
doing a lot of flying. ;^)

Gregg

[Juan Jimenez]

How big a sailboat? Pics? Web site?

"gregg" > wrote in message
news:mZ5rd.591306$mD.255665@attbi_s02...
> Juan Jimenez wrote:
>
>> You sure you don't want to give it a shot? :)
>
>
> HAHAHAHA yeah I'm sure. I have enough projects as it is. Right now I'm
> restoring an 85 yar old wooden sailboat., landscaping my back yard and
> doing a lot of flying. ;^)
>
> Gregg
>

[gregg]

Juan Jimenez wrote:

> How big a sailboat? Pics? Web site?

Hi Juan,

27' 6" Herreshoff S-Boat

Restoration of my 85 year old Herreshoff S-Boat sailboat:

http://home.comcast.net/~saville/SBOATrestore.htm

Also, other woodworking projects:

http://home.comcast.net/~saville/backstaffhome.html


So as you can see, building a P-38 would be one project too many ;^)

Gregg

>
> "gregg" > wrote in message
> news:mZ5rd.591306$mD.255665@attbi_s02...
>> Juan Jimenez wrote:
>>
>>> You sure you don't want to give it a shot? :)
>>
>>
>> HAHAHAHA yeah I'm sure. I have enough projects as it is. Right now I'm
>> restoring an 85 yar old wooden sailboat., landscaping my back yard and
>> doing a lot of flying. ;^)
>>
>> Gregg
>>

[Juan Jimenez]

Holy moleed. You ain't kiddin'. And to top it off the local village fool set
it on fire and it still survived? wow. :)

"gregg" > wrote in message
news:pkwrd.498973$D%.362137@attbi_s51...
> Juan Jimenez wrote:
>
>> How big a sailboat? Pics? Web site?
>
> Hi Juan,
>
> 27' 6" Herreshoff S-Boat
>
> Restoration of my 85 year old Herreshoff S-Boat sailboat:
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~saville/SBOATrestore.htm
>
> Also, other woodworking projects:
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~saville/backstaffhome.html
>
>
> So as you can see, building a P-38 would be one project too many ;^)
>
> Gregg
>
>>
>> "gregg" > wrote in message
>> news:mZ5rd.591306$mD.255665@attbi_s02...
>>> Juan Jimenez wrote:
>>>
>>>> You sure you don't want to give it a shot? :)
>>>
>>>
>>> HAHAHAHA yeah I'm sure. I have enough projects as it is. Right now I'm
>>> restoring an 85 yar old wooden sailboat., landscaping my back yard and
>>> doing a lot of flying. ;^)
>>>
>>> Gregg
>>>
>

[gregg]

Juan Jimenez wrote:

> Holy moleed. You ain't kiddin'. And to top it off the local village fool
> set it on fire and it still survived? wow. :)


I could have strangled the bastidge ;^) But the keel wasn't damaged nor
the new ribs so the boat could be saved....

Still,, I wouldn't mind a nice P-38....or a Mossie....

Gregg

[Morgans]

"gregg" > wrote

>
> I could have strangled the bastidge ;^) But the keel wasn't damaged nor
> the new ribs so the boat could be saved....
>
> Still,, I wouldn't mind a nice P-38....or a Mossie....
>
> Gregg

With all those mad woodworking skills, (and tools), why not a (whatever
scale) Mosquito?

That was a pretty cool plane, too.

Great work. It positively makes me look like a wood butcher. <g>
--
Jim in NC


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[gregg]

Morgans wrote:

>
> "gregg" > wrote
>
new ribs so the boat could be saved....
>>
>> Still,, I wouldn't mind a nice P-38....or a Mossie....
>>
>> Gregg
>
> With all those mad woodworking skills, (and tools), why not a (whatever
> scale) Mosquito?

Don't think I haven't thought about it about 5000 times..... ;^)

>
> That was a pretty cool plane, too.
>
> Great work. It positively makes me look like a wood butcher. <g>

Thanks, but it came only after years of making fine kindling.....

Gregg

[Juan Jimenez]

"gregg" > wrote in message
news:x4Mrd.191714$R05.18867@attbi_s53...
> Juan Jimenez wrote:
>
>> Holy moleed. You ain't kiddin'. And to top it off the local village fool
>> set it on fire and it still survived? wow. :)
>
> I could have strangled the bastidge ;^) But the keel wasn't damaged nor
> the new ribs so the boat could be saved....

Amazing luck, all things considered.

> Still,, I wouldn't mind a nice P-38....or a Mossie....

Mossie?

Juan

[B2431]

>From: "Juan Jimenez"
>Date: 12/2/2004 21:23 Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>
>"gregg" > wrote in message
>news:x4Mrd.191714$R05.18867@attbi_s53...
>> Juan Jimenez wrote:
>>
>>> Holy moleed. You ain't kiddin'. And to top it off the local village fool
>>> set it on fire and it still survived? wow. :)
>>
>> I could have strangled the bastidge ;^) But the keel wasn't damaged nor
>> the new ribs so the boat could be saved....
>
>Amazing luck, all things considered.
>
>> Still,, I wouldn't mind a nice P-38....or a Mossie....
>
>Mossie?
>
>Juan

Mosquito, genius. I thought you said you were an expert on aircraft.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[Juan Jimenez]

"B2431" > wrote in message
...

<mercy snip>

<swat!>

Oh, look, an insect.

Get over it, dannyboy. :)

[Corky Scott]

On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 21:48:14 GMT, gregg > wrote:

>Still,, I wouldn't mind a nice P-38....or a Mossie....

I saw pictures of a Mossie being fabricated new down in Australia.
The builders had even cast concrete forms to lay in the balsa and
plywood sandwich for the fuselage. Brrrr, what a phenominal project.

Corky Scott

[B2431]

>From: Corky Scott
>Date: 12/3/2004 07:16 Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 21:48:14 GMT, gregg > wrote:
>
>>Still,, I wouldn't mind a nice P-38....or a Mossie....
>
>I saw pictures of a Mossie being fabricated new down in Australia.
>The builders had even cast concrete forms to lay in the balsa and
>plywood sandwich for the fuselage. Brrrr, what a phenominal project.
>
>Corky Scott

Any idea how far along he is? Assuming he's using modern adhesives he's going
to have a fabulous airplane.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[gregg]

Corky Scott wrote:

> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 21:48:14 GMT, gregg > wrote:
>
>>Still,, I wouldn't mind a nice P-38....or a Mossie....
>
> I saw pictures of a Mossie being fabricated new down in Australia.
> The builders had even cast concrete forms to lay in the balsa and
> plywood sandwich for the fuselage. Brrrr, what a phenominal project.
>
> Corky Scott

Hi Corky,

Wow a new-fabbed Mossie? Full size? Impressive.

Gregg

[Juan Jimenez]

Anybody found a URL to this project yet? :)

"gregg" > wrote in message
news:Ay4sd.605477$mD.360847@attbi_s02...
> Corky Scott wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 21:48:14 GMT, gregg > wrote:
>>
>>>Still,, I wouldn't mind a nice P-38....or a Mossie....
>>
>> I saw pictures of a Mossie being fabricated new down in Australia.
>> The builders had even cast concrete forms to lay in the balsa and
>> plywood sandwich for the fuselage. Brrrr, what a phenominal project.
>>
>> Corky Scott
>
> Hi Corky,
>
> Wow a new-fabbed Mossie? Full size? Impressive.
>
> Gregg
>

[Corky Scott]

On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 18:20:12 -0400, "Juan Jimenez" >
wrote:

>Anybody found a URL to this project yet? :)

Could be this, and it turns out to be in New Zealand, not Australia.
Google is your friend.

http://www.nzfpm.co.nz/articles/mosquito.htm

Corky Scott

[gregg]

Corky Scott wrote:

> On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 18:20:12 -0400, "Juan Jimenez" >
> wrote:
>
>>Anybody found a URL to this project yet? :)
>
> Could be this, and it turns out to be in New Zealand, not Australia.
> Google is your friend.
>
> http://www.nzfpm.co.nz/articles/mosquito.htm
>
> Corky Scott


Very impressive project....

[Juan Jimenez]

Oh! It's a Kiwi project! Cool! Thanks!

"Corky Scott" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 18:20:12 -0400, "Juan Jimenez" >
> wrote:
>
>>Anybody found a URL to this project yet? :)
>
> Could be this, and it turns out to be in New Zealand, not Australia.
> Google is your friend.
>
> http://www.nzfpm.co.nz/articles/mosquito.htm
>
> Corky Scott
>