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Jay Honeck
July 2nd 05, 05:30 PM
My kids, ages 11 and 14, have flown with us almost since birth. They
are, quite frankly, bored with the whole thing, much to my dismay.

Oh sure, my son gets into it when he's allowed to fly right seat, but
with two pilots in the family that is a rare occasion indeed. And my
daughter is becoming vocally ANTI-flying, which is starting to become
an issue.

The solution? When we fly places that are "kid centered", both kids
are (not surprisingly) more than happy to get in the plane. We've had
to face the fact that our $100 hamburger flights (that excite us old
farts so much) just don't do much for the young 'uns, and so Mary and I
have started a quest for places to fly with kids.

I'd like to compile a list of "kid centered" destinations, not unlike
the web page I created for "Fly-In Aviation Museums." (See:
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/fly-in_aviation_museums.htm )

These destinations are surprisingly hard to find, although we've found
a few. Here are some:

1. Maquoketa Caves State Park. (See:
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/2005_maquoketa_caves.htm ) If your kids
like to hike, explore, and get dirty (who doesn't?), this FREE state
park is hard to beat. With miles of good hiking, both above and below
ground, interesting geologic formations, and fun caves to explore (both
easy and hard), the kids always enjoy flying to Maquoketa, Iowa (KOQW).

2. AdventureLand. Located near Des Moines, Iowa, this small theme park
is an easy drive from Ankeny Airport (KIKV). Big enough to keep any
roller coaster fanatic satisfied, but small enough to see in a day,
Adventureland is Iowa's answer to Disneyland.

3. Racine Zoo. A free zoo in 2005? You bet. Located in Racine, WI
(KRAC), this small-but-complete lakefront (on the shores of Lake
Michigan) zoo is a real treat. You'll have to rent a car or take a
cab, though, as Racine has no courtesy cars.

Can you add any others? I'll compile 'em if you can provide 'em!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Martin Hotze
July 2nd 05, 09:28 PM
On 2 Jul 2005 09:30:16 -0700, Jay Honeck wrote:

>Can you add any others? I'll compile 'em if you can provide 'em!

Have you ever asked them what they wanted to see or do?

Maybe fly them to a rock concert or so :-)

#m
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http://www.hotze.priv.at/album/aviation/caution.jpg

Michelle P
July 2nd 05, 09:51 PM
Sandusky Ohio KSKY. Oldest roller coaster in US.
Dallas, TX KDFW. Six Flags.
Michelle

Jay Honeck wrote:

>My kids, ages 11 and 14, have flown with us almost since birth. They
>are, quite frankly, bored with the whole thing, much to my dismay.
>
>Oh sure, my son gets into it when he's allowed to fly right seat, but
>with two pilots in the family that is a rare occasion indeed. And my
>daughter is becoming vocally ANTI-flying, which is starting to become
>an issue.
>
>The solution? When we fly places that are "kid centered", both kids
>are (not surprisingly) more than happy to get in the plane. We've had
>to face the fact that our $100 hamburger flights (that excite us old
>farts so much) just don't do much for the young 'uns, and so Mary and I
>have started a quest for places to fly with kids.
>
>I'd like to compile a list of "kid centered" destinations, not unlike
>the web page I created for "Fly-In Aviation Museums." (See:
>http://www.alexisparkinn.com/fly-in_aviation_museums.htm )
>
>These destinations are surprisingly hard to find, although we've found
>a few. Here are some:
>
>1. Maquoketa Caves State Park. (See:
>http://www.alexisparkinn.com/2005_maquoketa_caves.htm ) If your kids
>like to hike, explore, and get dirty (who doesn't?), this FREE state
>park is hard to beat. With miles of good hiking, both above and below
>ground, interesting geologic formations, and fun caves to explore (both
>easy and hard), the kids always enjoy flying to Maquoketa, Iowa (KOQW).
>
>2. AdventureLand. Located near Des Moines, Iowa, this small theme park
>is an easy drive from Ankeny Airport (KIKV). Big enough to keep any
>roller coaster fanatic satisfied, but small enough to see in a day,
>Adventureland is Iowa's answer to Disneyland.
>
>3. Racine Zoo. A free zoo in 2005? You bet. Located in Racine, WI
>(KRAC), this small-but-complete lakefront (on the shores of Lake
>Michigan) zoo is a real treat. You'll have to rent a car or take a
>cab, though, as Racine has no courtesy cars.
>
>Can you add any others? I'll compile 'em if you can provide 'em!
>--
>Jay Honeck
>Iowa City, IA
>Pathfinder N56993
>www.AlexisParkInn.com
>"Your Aviation Destination"
>
>
>

Peter R.
July 2nd 05, 09:53 PM
Jay Honeck > wrote:

> My kids, ages 11 and 14, have flown with us almost since birth. They
> are, quite frankly, bored with the whole thing, much to my dismay.

I would suspect that teenagers in general would complain when asked to do
anything with the parents.



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Larry Dighera
July 2nd 05, 10:19 PM
On 2 Jul 2005 09:30:16 -0700, "Jay Honeck" > wrote
in . com>::

>Can you add any others?


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jsmith
July 2nd 05, 10:52 PM
Jay Honeck wrote:
> Oh sure, my son gets into it when he's allowed to fly right seat, but
> with two pilots in the family that is a rare occasion indeed.

If he is 14, when is Joe going to start flying gliders?

Jay Honeck
July 2nd 05, 10:57 PM
> > Oh sure, my son gets into it when he's allowed to fly right seat, but
> > with two pilots in the family that is a rare occasion indeed.
>
> If he is 14, when is Joe going to start flying gliders?

We wanted to start him this summer, but the CAP glider is based in
Burlington, Iowa, which would have meant flying him there several
mornings each week, and coordinating with the CAP CFIs.

That ain't possible with our schedule(s) -- and CAP isn't about to
bring the glider to Iowa City.

So, he'll probably wait till he's old enough to enroll in one of the
flight schools on the field. It's too bad, cuz he's more than ready.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

John T
July 2nd 05, 11:42 PM
Madison, WI also has a free zoo, the Henry Vilas Zoo. Small, but several
modern buildings.

John

John T
July 2nd 05, 11:43 PM
Oh yeah...Wisconsin Dells. Waterparks all over the place. I'll bet
you've been there...

Also the Circus World Museum, a short distance from the Dells.

Neither are free though, although you could just wander through the
dells for nothing...

John

Michelle P
July 2nd 05, 11:44 PM
Jay,
Maybe it is the journey, not the destination.
You mentioned your son enjoys it sometimes when he gets to sit up front.
How about a Father son team or a Mother Daughter team up front. Weight
and Balance permitting.
Give them something to do like find things on the chart.

Michelle

Jim Burns
July 3rd 05, 12:44 AM
http://www.schlitterbahn.com/ in the winter of course

Niagra Falls

http://www.hfmgv.org/ Henry Ford Museum, Dearborn, MI

Mt. Rushmore

http://www.callawaygardens.com/

http://www.ringling.com/schedule/ Ringling Bros Circus

Silver Dollar City, Branson, MO

Mammoth Cave http://www.nps.gov/maca/

Jim

Carlos Villalpando
July 3rd 05, 03:00 AM
In article >,
says...

> The Los Angeles County Fairgrounds in Pomona is right next to Cable
> Airport.

*chortle* If you're going to pick the fairgrounds, might as well pick
Bracket Field (POC) in La Verne. They share the same fence line. Well,
shared with at least the Dragstrip on the fairgrounds.

Final on 26R puts you 50-75 feet crossing perpendicularly over the
dragstrip. I've seen them stage as I fly over. I guess they wait until
nobody is on final before the run down the track. I'd hate to be on
final when one of the funny cars or top fuel cars blows up and throws
debris way up in the air.

Also under the final paths for 26L/R are the fairground parking lots.
During the week, you can see various Law enforcement types do high speed
training runs on a course painted in the parking lots.

--Carlos V.

Jay Honeck
July 3rd 05, 04:40 AM
> Maybe it is the journey, not the destination.

Yeah, that's what I always thought. Unfortunately, it seems that one man's
journey is another kid's penance. After 1500 hours in the back seats,
they're just not thrilled with another hour of droning over the Midwest.

> You mentioned your son enjoys it sometimes when he gets to sit up front.
> How about a Father son team or a Mother Daughter team up front. Weight and
> Balance permitting.

No problem with weight & balance in a Pathfinder. We have done this on
occasion, usually to good effect. I think we'll have to do it some more!

> Give them something to do like find things on the chart.

Charts are kid stuff for Joe, and a big yawn to Becca. Gotta find another
angle...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck
July 3rd 05, 04:43 AM
> http://www.hfmgv.org/ Henry Ford Museum, Dearborn, MI

Man, I've got to get the kids to this place. I visited as a young man with
my parents, and still remember it.

Although I hesitate to take them to another museum too soon. They've been
"aviation museumed" to death in the last two months (Rantoul, Udvar-Hazy,
Seattle's Museum of Flight, Oshkosh later this month), and I fear that *any*
museum would be met with cries of anguish!

> Niagra Falls

Gotta do that one, soon.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Morgans
July 3rd 05, 05:07 AM
"Jay Honeck" > wrote

> My kids, ages 11 and 14, have flown with us almost since birth. They
> are, quite frankly, bored with the whole thing, much to my dismay.

> The solution? When we fly places that are "kid centered", both kids
> are (not surprisingly) more than happy to get in the plane.

I have no idea how easy it is to fly into Kentucky, and go to Mammoth Caves,
but that is hands down, the coolest cave around.
--
Jim in NC

George Patterson
July 3rd 05, 05:08 AM
Jay Honeck wrote:
>
> Can you add any others?

Yet another underground one -- Luray Caverns, Virginia.

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.

john smith
July 3rd 05, 06:11 AM
Morgans wrote:
> I have no idea how easy it is to fly into Kentucky, and go to Mammoth Caves,
> but that is hands down, the coolest cave around.

I have looked into doing this, but there is no place to land close to
the caves.

john smith
July 3rd 05, 06:13 AM
Cleveland OH
Burke Lakefront Airport
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

john smith
July 3rd 05, 06:22 AM
White water rafting on the New River in West Virginia

Summersville WV (SXL)
Campground adjacent to the airport
Rafting outfitters will come pick you up.

New River Gorge (Pvt) northeast of Fayetteville WV
Two miles north of Class VI River Runners
Class VI has a campground and lodge.
They will pick you up from New River Gorge Airport.
Public use Favetteville Airport (I89) is on the south side of the gorge
across the bridgel

Larry Dighera
July 3rd 05, 06:33 AM
On 2 Jul 2005 09:30:16 -0700, "Jay Honeck" > wrote
in . com>::

>Can you add any others?

Laughlin/Bullhead International Airport
http://www.airnav.com/airport/KIFP

http://www.ramadaexpress.com/veterans.html
In the middle of Casino Drive, you'll find the Ramada Express Hotel
Casino. This is not your ordinary casino. Inside the 9,000 square foot
Pavilion Theater is the American Heroes Museum, a magnificent tribute
to our military heroes. The casino's commitment to the community and
to American Veterans has made it the local favorite and a popular
choice for Veterans.

The tribute to Veterans started when Susan Murphy, President and
General Manager of the Ramada Express, wanted to give something
special to her guests: memories.

"In 1996 we started a promotion called 'Back to the 40s' to honor
those Americans who gave so much to this country during World War II.
We filled our Pavilion with priceless WWII memorabilia and displays of
life on the home front, and opened it to the public," Murphy said. A
few years later we added a free multi-media show and a speaker
program.

"Unexpectedly, we began to receive all kinds of memorabilia from this
era that we now call the 'Greatest Generation.' Our exhibit had grown
into a fine tribute and we renamed it The American Heroes Museum. It's
was a wonderful collection of WWII memorabilia and it was free for our
visitors to enjoy," Murphy said.

Now, in 2003, we decided to "move on" once again. By including the
second half of the 20th century, we also embraced those Veterans of
more recent conflicts. Our American Heroes Museum of Memories now
includes memorbillia from WWII, Korea, and Vietnam. The new displays
are fabulous!

Martin Hotze
July 3rd 05, 08:34 AM
On 2 Jul 2005 14:57:15 -0700, Jay Honeck wrote:

>> If he is 14, when is Joe going to start flying gliders?
>
>We wanted to start him this summer, but (...)

_YOU_ wanted him to? Or would this has been his own free decision?

#m
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Larry Dighera
July 3rd 05, 03:26 PM
On 2 Jul 2005 14:57:15 -0700, "Jay Honeck" > wrote
in om>::

>
>> If he is 14, when is Joe going to start flying gliders?
>
>We wanted to start him this summer,

That's terrific! Glider training will serve him well throughout his
flying. Who knows, you might even find it worthwhile to add a glider
rating to your certificate too.

I would suggest, that you make contact with the nearest soaring club.
Here's a link: http://www.ssa.org/sport/wheretofly.asp

Joe will find the friendly camaraderie of a club to be just the right
atmosphere to learn how to fly and assist other club members in doing
the same. The costs are incredibly low, the people are refreshingly
intelligent and capable, and he will earn a glider certificate in no
time.

Jim Burns
July 4th 05, 05:56 AM
Radio work Jay. First easy step, have him announce your taxi progress on
unicom. Work with him a little prior to getting in the plane. Next step,
initial call ups after freq changes while using flight following. Nothing
complicated, just report on the freq at what ever altitude. After that,
coach him on pattern announcements.

Just make sure your pilot workload allows you to monitor his verbiage and to
correct his mistakes while encouraging him.

Jim

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:f7Jxe.126756$nG6.114762@attbi_s22...
> > Maybe it is the journey, not the destination.
>
> Yeah, that's what I always thought. Unfortunately, it seems that one
man's
> journey is another kid's penance. After 1500 hours in the back seats,
> they're just not thrilled with another hour of droning over the Midwest.
>
> > You mentioned your son enjoys it sometimes when he gets to sit up front.
> > How about a Father son team or a Mother Daughter team up front. Weight
and
> > Balance permitting.
>
> No problem with weight & balance in a Pathfinder. We have done this on
> occasion, usually to good effect. I think we'll have to do it some more!
>
> > Give them something to do like find things on the chart.
>
> Charts are kid stuff for Joe, and a big yawn to Becca. Gotta find
another
> angle...
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

Montblack
July 4th 05, 06:15 AM
("Jay Honeck" wrote)
> Charts are kid stuff for Joe, and a big yawn to Becca. Gotta find
> another angle...


It's ALL about friends at that age - and bugging your siblings.

Mary, Jay, Becca and her friend.
Jay, Mary, Joey and his buddy.

You want to share your aviation enthusiasm with your kids - give them a
chance to share their aviation experiences with their friends.


Montblack

john smith
July 4th 05, 02:31 PM
Montblack wrote:
> Mary, Jay, Becca and her friend.
> Jay, Mary, Joey and his buddy.
> You want to share your aviation enthusiasm with your kids - give them a
> chance to share their aviation experiences with their friends.

Sounds like it's time for Jay to get that Cherokee Six.
Jay, Mary, Joe and his buddy, and Becka and her friend.

Jay Honeck
July 4th 05, 08:08 PM
> Radio work Jay. First easy step, have him announce your taxi progress on
> unicom. Work with him a little prior to getting in the plane. Next step,
> initial call ups after freq changes while using flight following. Nothing
> complicated, just report on the freq at what ever altitude. After that,
> coach him on pattern announcements.

Great minds think alike, Jim. Joe's been practicing on the radio for the
last few months.

We flew last night as per Michelle's recommendation. Joe and I on the
flight out, Bec and Mary on the flight back. It worked out pretty well,
although Becca still can't see over the dashboard, so all of her flying is
IFR.... :-)

Joe did okay, but usually I can let him get us down to about 50 feet off the
runway before I take over. We had a wicked cross wind, with MUCH higher
winds at altitude, so he was having a terrible time keeping the runway in
its proper place in the patter -- so I took over at 1000 AGL.

All in all, an enjoyable flight for all, and I got to sit in the back and
enjoy the limitless leg room that sitting behind two <5 footers allows!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck
July 4th 05, 08:10 PM
> Sounds like it's time for Jay to get that Cherokee Six.
> Jay, Mary, Joe and his buddy, and Becka and her friend.

We've talked about it, but I think we're going to stick with Atlas.

We've got everything in that bird precisely the way we want it, and in just
a few short years the kids will be up and leaving the nest, anyway.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Morgans
July 4th 05, 10:36 PM
"Jay Honeck" > wrote
>
> We've got everything in that bird precisely the way we want it, and in
just
> a few short years the kids will be up and leaving the nest, anyway.

Except for that radio faceplate!
<Snicker>
--
Jim in NC

john smith
July 5th 05, 02:05 AM
Jay Honeck wrote:
> We've talked about it, but I think we're going to stick with Atlas.
> We've got everything in that bird precisely the way we want it, and in just
> a few short years the kids will be up and leaving the nest, anyway.

That will work out well.
Jay and Mary take their days off in the middle of the week,
Joe and Becka get the airplane on alternating weekends.

Victor J. Osborne, Jr.
July 5th 05, 06:24 AM
Except for their ridiculous landing fee.

--

Thx, {|;-)

Victor J. (Jim) Osborne, Jr.
"john smith" > wrote in message
. ..
> Cleveland OH
> Burke Lakefront Airport
> Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

dave
July 5th 05, 08:42 PM
If you head east again, you can try Williamsburg, VA. This is the first
summer in 7 years that we haven't spent a week there. There's Colonial
Williamsburg, Busch Gardens, Water Country USA, Jamestown, and lots of
other things to do. You can also try Cape May, NJ - KWWD. You can
stay in historic Cape May, have a great time on the boardwalk in
Wildwood. There's some new folks running the FBO at kwwd. They've
arranged for rental cars and a shuttle service.
Dave
68 7ECA


Jay Honeck wrote:
> My kids, ages 11 and 14, have flown with us almost since birth. They
> are, quite frankly, bored with the whole thing, much to my dismay.
>
> Oh sure, my son gets into it when he's allowed to fly right seat, but
> with two pilots in the family that is a rare occasion indeed. And my
> daughter is becoming vocally ANTI-flying, which is starting to become
> an issue.
>
> The solution? When we fly places that are "kid centered", both kids
> are (not surprisingly) more than happy to get in the plane. We've had
> to face the fact that our $100 hamburger flights (that excite us old
> farts so much) just don't do much for the young 'uns, and so Mary and I
> have started a quest for places to fly with kids.
>
> I'd like to compile a list of "kid centered" destinations, not unlike
> the web page I created for "Fly-In Aviation Museums." (See:
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/fly-in_aviation_museums.htm )
>
> These destinations are surprisingly hard to find, although we've found
> a few. Here are some:
>
> 1. Maquoketa Caves State Park. (See:
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/2005_maquoketa_caves.htm ) If your kids
> like to hike, explore, and get dirty (who doesn't?), this FREE state
> park is hard to beat. With miles of good hiking, both above and below
> ground, interesting geologic formations, and fun caves to explore (both
> easy and hard), the kids always enjoy flying to Maquoketa, Iowa (KOQW).
>
> 2. AdventureLand. Located near Des Moines, Iowa, this small theme park
> is an easy drive from Ankeny Airport (KIKV). Big enough to keep any
> roller coaster fanatic satisfied, but small enough to see in a day,
> Adventureland is Iowa's answer to Disneyland.
>
> 3. Racine Zoo. A free zoo in 2005? You bet. Located in Racine, WI
> (KRAC), this small-but-complete lakefront (on the shores of Lake
> Michigan) zoo is a real treat. You'll have to rent a car or take a
> cab, though, as Racine has no courtesy cars.
>
> Can you add any others? I'll compile 'em if you can provide 'em!
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

Jay Masino
July 5th 05, 09:35 PM
dave > wrote:
> If you head east again, you can try Williamsburg, VA. This is the first
> summer in 7 years that we haven't spent a week there. There's Colonial
> Williamsburg, Busch Gardens, Water Country USA, Jamestown, and lots of
> other things to do. You can also try Cape May, NJ - KWWD. You can
> stay in historic Cape May, have a great time on the boardwalk in
> Wildwood. There's some new folks running the FBO at kwwd. They've
> arranged for rental cars and a shuttle service.

Heck, if he's gonna go all the way to the ocean, he might as well stop by
Ocean City, MD. September and October weekends are awesome.




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July 5th 05, 10:39 PM
Harold Warp's "Pioneer Village", Minden, Nebraska. Old farm
machinery, cars, motorcycles and AIRPLANES. Minden calls itself "The
Christmas City", for all the lights and decorations that go up for
Christmas. Courtesy cars at the airport are "vintage" 1960s Mustangs!

Evan's Plunge, Hot Springs, South Dakota. Bills itself as the
"World's largest INDOOR Hot Springs". Great place to take the kids
for the water slides and splash! Mount Rushmore is nearby. Rental
cars available, "call a few days in advance" from the local car
dealership.

Hot Springs at Thermopolis, Wyoming. 3 different operatons, with and
without water slides. Airport is "interesting"... land between
hog-backs, land south (uphill), takeoff north (downhill). Lunch at the
country club, across the parking lot at the airport. Call the pools for
transportation to town, or the Holiday Inn (stay there).

Best regards,

Jer/ "Flight instruction and mountain flying are my vocation!" Eberhard

--
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CELL 970 231-6325 EMAIL jer'at'frii.com WEB http://users.frii.com/jer/
C-206 N9513G, CFII Airplane&Glider, FAA-DEN Aviation Safety Counselor
CAP-CO Mission&Aircraft CheckPilot, BM218 HAM N0FZD, 228 Young Eagles!

Charlie Derk
July 6th 05, 01:00 AM
Jay -

I'm going through the same thing - only my kids are 4 and 5. They seem
to fall asleep 1/2 hour into the flight. I'm trying to get to places
that are far enough away for me to have a nice flight, but enough fun
that the whole family can go.

So far this year I've done:
Atlantic City, NJ (even I can have fun at the Casinos here)
Ocean City, MD (spent the weekend at the beach (kids had a blast)

this month I'm heading to Niagara Falls (landing at KIAG in NY and
taking a taxi across)

next month we're heading to Sandusky OH (KSKY) to go to Cedar Point
amusement park.

Charlie

Jay Honeck wrote:
> My kids, ages 11 and 14, have flown with us almost since birth. They
> are, quite frankly, bored with the whole thing, much to my dismay.
>
> Oh sure, my son gets into it when he's allowed to fly right seat, but
> with two pilots in the family that is a rare occasion indeed. And my
> daughter is becoming vocally ANTI-flying, which is starting to become
> an issue.
>
> The solution? When we fly places that are "kid centered", both kids
> are (not surprisingly) more than happy to get in the plane. We've had
> to face the fact that our $100 hamburger flights (that excite us old
> farts so much) just don't do much for the young 'uns, and so Mary and I
> have started a quest for places to fly with kids.
>
> I'd like to compile a list of "kid centered" destinations, not unlike
> the web page I created for "Fly-In Aviation Museums." (See:
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/fly-in_aviation_museums.htm )
>
> These destinations are surprisingly hard to find, although we've found
> a few. Here are some:
>
> 1. Maquoketa Caves State Park. (See:
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/2005_maquoketa_caves.htm ) If your kids
> like to hike, explore, and get dirty (who doesn't?), this FREE state
> park is hard to beat. With miles of good hiking, both above and below
> ground, interesting geologic formations, and fun caves to explore (both
> easy and hard), the kids always enjoy flying to Maquoketa, Iowa (KOQW).
>
> 2. AdventureLand. Located near Des Moines, Iowa, this small theme park
> is an easy drive from Ankeny Airport (KIKV). Big enough to keep any
> roller coaster fanatic satisfied, but small enough to see in a day,
> Adventureland is Iowa's answer to Disneyland.
>
> 3. Racine Zoo. A free zoo in 2005? You bet. Located in Racine, WI
> (KRAC), this small-but-complete lakefront (on the shores of Lake
> Michigan) zoo is a real treat. You'll have to rent a car or take a
> cab, though, as Racine has no courtesy cars.
>
> Can you add any others? I'll compile 'em if you can provide 'em!
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

Morgans
July 6th 05, 02:47 AM
"Charlie Derk" > wrote

> my kids are 4 and 5.
>
> next month we're heading to Sandusky OH (KSKY) to go to Cedar Point
> amusement park.

Charlie, Cedar Point is a definite "big kids park." You have to be above a
certain size, 4 or 5 feet, or above a certain age, to ride almost anything.
Big coasters rule, there. Leave the kids at home, or go when they are at a
minimum 12 years old.
--
Jim in NC

W P Dixon
July 6th 05, 03:21 AM
Yep Cedar Point is for ME, oh I meant big kids ;)

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech
rollercoaster junkie!!!!!!! ;)

"Morgans" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Charlie Derk" > wrote
>
>> my kids are 4 and 5.
>>
>> next month we're heading to Sandusky OH (KSKY) to go to Cedar Point
>> amusement park.
>
> Charlie, Cedar Point is a definite "big kids park." You have to be above
> a
> certain size, 4 or 5 feet, or above a certain age, to ride almost
> anything.
> Big coasters rule, there. Leave the kids at home, or go when they are at
> a
> minimum 12 years old.
> --
> Jim in NC
>

Morgans
July 6th 05, 04:36 AM
"W P Dixon" > wrote in message
...
> Yep Cedar Point is for ME, oh I meant big kids ;)

Yep, I used to spend a couple days there, every year, until about 20 years
ago. It was kick ass then, but now...

Always mentioned in the top couple places in the TV roller coaster shows,
but now with a fused spine, I'll never get to enjoy it again. ****es me
off...
--
Jim in NC

Jay Honeck
July 7th 05, 05:35 PM
> That will work out well.
> Jay and Mary take their days off in the middle of the week,
> Joe and Becka get the airplane on alternating weekends.


AAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck
July 7th 05, 05:37 PM
> Charlie, Cedar Point is a definite "big kids park." You have to be above
> a
> certain size, 4 or 5 feet, or above a certain age, to ride almost
> anything.
> Big coasters rule, there. Leave the kids at home, or go when they are at
> a
> minimum 12 years old.

My sister has been taking her kid there for years (she's a lot closer,
living in Michigan), and raves about the place.

We *almost* got there on our way to DC. Maybe next time...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Michelle P
July 7th 05, 06:08 PM
Jay,
Have you tried a booster style seat for Becca? If she can see over the
panel her interest may rise.
Michelle

Jay Honeck wrote:

>>Radio work Jay. First easy step, have him announce your taxi progress on
>>unicom. Work with him a little prior to getting in the plane. Next step,
>>initial call ups after freq changes while using flight following. Nothing
>>complicated, just report on the freq at what ever altitude. After that,
>>coach him on pattern announcements.
>>
>>
>
>Great minds think alike, Jim. Joe's been practicing on the radio for the
>last few months.
>
>We flew last night as per Michelle's recommendation. Joe and I on the
>flight out, Bec and Mary on the flight back. It worked out pretty well,
>although Becca still can't see over the dashboard, so all of her flying is
>IFR.... :-)
>
>Joe did okay, but usually I can let him get us down to about 50 feet off the
>runway before I take over. We had a wicked cross wind, with MUCH higher
>winds at altitude, so he was having a terrible time keeping the runway in
>its proper place in the patter -- so I took over at 1000 AGL.
>
>All in all, an enjoyable flight for all, and I got to sit in the back and
>enjoy the limitless leg room that sitting behind two <5 footers allows!
>
>

Michelle P
July 7th 05, 06:10 PM
Hey dad can I have the airplane for a date on Saturday? I promise to
have it home before IMC ;-)
Michelle

Jay Honeck wrote:

>>That will work out well.
>>Jay and Mary take their days off in the middle of the week,
>>Joe and Becka get the airplane on alternating weekends.
>>
>>
>
>
>AAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
>
>;-)
>
>

jsmith
July 7th 05, 06:49 PM
Or, maybe this one...

Dad, Becka and I are going to take Atlas to Florida for Spring Break.
Can we have the credit card? You know... for gas and stuff?
I promise we'll swap every other leg. We won't fight over it...
Don't worry, if the sun isn't shining, we won't fly.

Michelle P wrote:
> Hey dad can I have the airplane for a date on Saturday? I promise to
> have it home before IMC ;-)
> Michelle

> Jay Honeck wrote:
>>> That will work out well.
>>> Jay and Mary take their days off in the middle of the week,
>>> Joe and Becka get the airplane on alternating weekends.

>> AAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
>> ;-)

Chris G.
July 7th 05, 08:05 PM
Be VERY careful about booster seats! In many cases, they are not
permitted per FAA regs. This month's AOPA magazine has a very good
article about child restraint devices and how/where to seat children in
airplanes, specifically dealing with GA.

chris


Michelle P wrote:
> Jay,
> Have you tried a booster style seat for Becca? If she can see over the
> panel her interest may rise.
> Michelle
>
> Jay Honeck wrote:
>
>>> Radio work Jay. First easy step, have him announce your taxi
>>> progress on
>>> unicom. Work with him a little prior to getting in the plane. Next
>>> step,
>>> initial call ups after freq changes while using flight following.
>>> Nothing
>>> complicated, just report on the freq at what ever altitude. After that,
>>> coach him on pattern announcements.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Great minds think alike, Jim. Joe's been practicing on the radio for
>> the last few months.
>>
>> We flew last night as per Michelle's recommendation. Joe and I on
>> the flight out, Bec and Mary on the flight back. It worked out pretty
>> well, although Becca still can't see over the dashboard, so all of her
>> flying is IFR.... :-)
>>
>> Joe did okay, but usually I can let him get us down to about 50 feet
>> off the runway before I take over. We had a wicked cross wind, with
>> MUCH higher winds at altitude, so he was having a terrible time
>> keeping the runway in its proper place in the patter -- so I took over
>> at 1000 AGL.
>>
>> All in all, an enjoyable flight for all, and I got to sit in the back
>> and enjoy the limitless leg room that sitting behind two <5 footers
>> allows!
>>
>>
>

Randy Aldous
July 7th 05, 09:07 PM
Jay - How about Duluth, MN - hiking, beautiful scenery, big ships, lots
of cool stuff.

Randy

Jim Burns
July 7th 05, 11:30 PM
I wonder if at age 11, the FAA still wants Jay to position Becca backwards
in that booster seat???

"Chris G." <nospam@noemail> wrote in message
eenews.net...
> Be VERY careful about booster seats! In many cases, they are not
> permitted per FAA regs. This month's AOPA magazine has a very good
> article about child restraint devices and how/where to seat children in
> airplanes, specifically dealing with GA.
>
> chris
>
>
> Michelle P wrote:
> > Jay,
> > Have you tried a booster style seat for Becca? If she can see over the
> > panel her interest may rise.
> > Michelle
> >
> > Jay Honeck wrote:
> >
> >>> Radio work Jay. First easy step, have him announce your taxi
> >>> progress on
> >>> unicom. Work with him a little prior to getting in the plane. Next
> >>> step,
> >>> initial call ups after freq changes while using flight following.
> >>> Nothing
> >>> complicated, just report on the freq at what ever altitude. After
that,
> >>> coach him on pattern announcements.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Great minds think alike, Jim. Joe's been practicing on the radio for
> >> the last few months.
> >>
> >> We flew last night as per Michelle's recommendation. Joe and I on
> >> the flight out, Bec and Mary on the flight back. It worked out pretty
> >> well, although Becca still can't see over the dashboard, so all of her
> >> flying is IFR.... :-)
> >>
> >> Joe did okay, but usually I can let him get us down to about 50 feet
> >> off the runway before I take over. We had a wicked cross wind, with
> >> MUCH higher winds at altitude, so he was having a terrible time
> >> keeping the runway in its proper place in the patter -- so I took over
> >> at 1000 AGL.
> >>
> >> All in all, an enjoyable flight for all, and I got to sit in the back
> >> and enjoy the limitless leg room that sitting behind two <5 footers
> >> allows!
> >>
> >>
> >

Montblack
July 8th 05, 04:51 AM
"Randy Aldous"
> Jay - How about Duluth, MN - hiking, beautiful scenery, big ships, lots
> of cool stuff.


Agreed. I 100% recommend Duluth for a family visit.


Montblack

Jay Honeck
July 10th 05, 04:02 AM
>I wonder if at age 11, the FAA still wants Jay to position Becca backwards
> in that booster seat???

Hey, the FAA is older than 11...

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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