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July 6th 05, 10:49 PM
I would like to extend an offer to you or any other pilots that might
be interested in the Breitling watch line. This is a great watch for
professionals. Some features include slide rule, emergency tracking,
chronograph and many more. I can mail you a catalog or your visit
www.breitling.com
We are the local representative of the watch line.

Romance Diamond Co. Jeweler
248 W. Dickson St.
Fayetteville, AR 72701
479-443-9289
www.romancediamond.com

Thank you,
Brittany Adair

Kyle Boatright
July 7th 05, 12:08 AM
> wrote in message
oups.com...
>I would like to extend an offer to you or any other pilots that might
> be interested in the Breitling watch line. This is a great watch for
> professionals. Some features include slide rule, emergency tracking,
> chronograph and many more. I can mail you a catalog or your visit
> www.breitling.com
> We are the local representative of the watch line.
>
> Romance Diamond Co. Jeweler
> 248 W. Dickson St.
> Fayetteville, AR 72701
> 479-443-9289
> www.romancediamond.com
>
> Thank you,
> Brittany Adair

I had the pleasure of being gifted with a Breitling watch from my wife.
Unfortunately, that also stuck me with the bill and responsibility for
keeping the thing maintained, which is no small order.

Before anyone goes off and buys one of these watches, ask a few questions
from this list:

1) If the watch is battery powered, what does it cost to have the battery
replaced?*
2) How often does it need factory service?
3) What is the turnaround time on factory service and/or cleaning?
4) What does a factory service and/or cleaning cost?

* This is a trick question. Breitling won't "only" replace the battery on
your watch. Instead, they will offer you two options: 1) Have the XX
service performed, which is likely to cost $100 or better. OR 2) Take the
watch elsewhere to get the battery replaced, thus voiding the warranty on
your very expensive watch.

KB

Sylvain
July 7th 05, 12:16 AM
Kyle Boatright wrote:

> * This is a trick question.

another trick question: how long will they 'support' a given
model? I have a Breitling that was given to me as a gift and
which has a considerable sentimental value, but which bezel
was damaged; Breitling will not fix it (the only option they
offered was to trade it in for peanuts towards buying another
one of their model, which is not an option, see sentimental
value part); my only hope is to eventually find a watch maker
which might have the relevent part in store...

--Sylvain

tom418
July 7th 05, 12:57 PM
I'm surprised that Breitling will not fix your watch. My 25 year old Wakmann
Chrono is being cleaned/overhauled by Wakmann right now. Cost will be
$500.00 .

When I dropped off the watch in Manhattan a few weeks ago, I inquired about
the relationship between Breitling and Wakmann. (I see many Wakmanns
advertised as "Wakmann/Breitling"s on EBAY). The service rep informed me
that Wakmann was bought out by Breitling a few years ago.

By the way, my watch ends up in the shop every 6 years, on average. I've
owned two Pipers with Wakmann clocks in them, and have never had a problem.
And I've used their wind-up clocks on B727s with no complaints either.
"Sylvain" > wrote in message
...
> Kyle Boatright wrote:
>
> > * This is a trick question.
>
> another trick question: how long will they 'support' a given
> model? I have a Breitling that was given to me as a gift and
> which has a considerable sentimental value, but which bezel
> was damaged; Breitling will not fix it (the only option they
> offered was to trade it in for peanuts towards buying another
> one of their model, which is not an option, see sentimental
> value part); my only hope is to eventually find a watch maker
> which might have the relevent part in store...
>
> --Sylvain

Maule Driver
July 7th 05, 03:15 PM
After wearing various aviation-styled watches over the years - mostly
moderately priced ones - I stopped wearing a watch all together.

Sort of like a sheathed belt knife, it can be a nice fashion accessory
and even a useful tool in the backcountry. But I find in the modern
lower 40, where many of us spend our time, timepieces are imbedded in
everything we touch.

It seems that every video screen, phone, vehicle, appliance, building
sign, and person has the current, accurate time displayed. Many of those
same time displays have stop watch, timer and alarm capabilities to boot.

Heck, I can even get an aviation weather briefing in local time!!

Standing outside the Royal Observatory in Greenwich, the home of zero
longitude, I straddled the GMT line and considered the time ball. The
same ball that was used in previous centuries to set the ships' clock.
Then I considered the old Trimble GPS in my bag and the iron clock
ticking on my wrist. I became confused and searched for a beer...

But soon after, I ditched the watch and decided to get on with the the
21st century.

wrote:
> I would like to extend an offer to you or any other pilots that might
> be interested in the Breitling watch line. This is a great watch for
> professionals. Some features include slide rule, emergency tracking,
> chronograph and many more. I can mail you a catalog or your visit
> www.breitling.com
> We are the local representative of the watch line.
>
> Romance Diamond Co. Jeweler
> 248 W. Dickson St.
> Fayetteville, AR 72701
> 479-443-9289
> www.romancediamond.com
>
> Thank you,
> Brittany Adair
>

Sylvain
July 7th 05, 04:11 PM
tom418 wrote:
> I'm surprised that Breitling will not fix your watch. My 25 year old Wakmann
> Chrono is being cleaned/overhauled by Wakmann right now. Cost will be
> $500.00 .

my Breitling is about 21 years old and no, they don't even want to
change the battery; and I did try their local representative over
here (California) AND directly with Breitling in Switzerland when
I was there; no dice.

--Sylvain

Hotel 179
July 7th 05, 04:15 PM
--

"Maule Driver" > wrote in message
m...
> After wearing various aviation-styled watches over the years - mostly
> moderately priced ones - I stopped wearing a watch all together.
>
I became confused and searched for a beer...

------------------------------------reply-----------------------------

This whole time thing is a plot on the part of the Swiss.

Stephen F. Pearce
Foley, Alabama

John Gaquin
July 7th 05, 05:21 PM
> wrote in message

>......Some features include slide rule, emergency tracking, chronograph and
>many > more.

Yes..... but does it tell time?

I still wear a Timex Quartz purchased in 1980 for $12. Looks fine. It flew
'round the world with me through the last 15 years of my career, and more
sedately in the ten years since. Never more than 1-2 seconds off in all
that time, according to WWV. New battery about $3-5 every 2-3 years.

Of course, ...... it won't impress anyone.

JG

Larry Dighera
July 7th 05, 06:09 PM
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:57:43 -0400, "tom418"
> wrote in
<ZM8ze.55586$R21.43446@lakeread06>::

>my watch ends up in the shop every 6 years, on average.

That sounds about right for a Breitling.

I've owned an Omega 'Speedmaster'* since 1972. I ware it daily, and
it has never required service of any kind in those 33 years. I find
that remarkable for a mechanical device. But it was originally built
for the flights to the moon.


* http://www.omega.ch/omega/co_sp_home

Jon Woellhaf
July 7th 05, 07:13 PM
John,

Did you ever actually use your watch for some aeronautical purpose while
flying?

Jon

"John Gaquin" > wrote in message
...
>
> Yes..... but does it tell time?
>
> I still wear a Timex Quartz purchased in 1980 for $12. Looks fine. It
> flew 'round the world with me through the last 15 years of my career, and
> more sedately in the ten years since. Never more than 1-2 seconds off in
> all that time, according to WWV. New battery about $3-5 every 2-3 years.
>
> Of course, ...... it won't impress anyone.
>
> JG

July 7th 05, 09:25 PM
Interestingly enough, I just visited the Breitling website and after
the animated flash video finishes playing, a popup window appears
warning everyone to not buy any Breitling products over the Internet as
they are counterfeits and to only buy from authorised retailers.

I use a $7 Japanese no-name quartz watch which keeps perfect time and
runs for 3 years on a $2 battery.

wrote:
> I would like to extend an offer to you or any other pilots that might
> be interested in the Breitling watch line. This is a great watch for
> professionals. Some features include slide rule, emergency tracking,
> chronograph and many more. I can mail you a catalog or your visit
> www.breitling.com
> We are the local representative of the watch line.
>
> Romance Diamond Co. Jeweler
> 248 W. Dickson St.
> Fayetteville, AR 72701
> 479-443-9289
> www.romancediamond.com
>
> Thank you,
> Brittany Adair

Hotel 179
July 7th 05, 09:27 PM
"Jon Woellhaf" > wrote in message
...
> John,
>
> Did you ever actually use your watch for some aeronautical purpose while
> flying?
>
> Jon
>

-----------------------reply-----------------------------

When the big hand is on the left, switch to the left tank?

Gotta go fly.....

Stephen F. Pearce
Foley, Alabama

Dave Stadt
July 7th 05, 11:26 PM
"John Gaquin" > wrote in message
...
>
> > wrote in message
>
> >......Some features include slide rule, emergency tracking, chronograph
and
> >many > more.
>
> Yes..... but does it tell time?
>
> I still wear a Timex Quartz purchased in 1980 for $12. Looks fine. It
flew
> 'round the world with me through the last 15 years of my career, and more
> sedately in the ten years since. Never more than 1-2 seconds off in all
> that time, according to WWV. New battery about $3-5 every 2-3 years.
>
> Of course, ...... it won't impress anyone.

Nor will a Breitling impress those who really know watches. There are
dozens of small Swiss manufacturers that produce a better product at a small
percentage of what a Breitling will cost.

July 7th 05, 11:27 PM
John Gaquin wrote:
> > wrote in message
>
> I still wear a Timex Quartz purchased in 1980 for $12.

If you really want a pilot geek watch, the Citizen ones are awfully
nice, and large enough to cause your wearing arm to swell like a
fiddler crab's. Conversely, if you want to impress shallow women, Rolex
remains king. Unless you're hanging out with high-end shallow people, a
good fake one will more than suffice. The only people who recognize
Breitlings are other pilots, and all they'll do is make jokes about how
their Timexes keep better time.

Aluckyguess
July 8th 05, 01:02 AM
My brother says his Rolex doesn't keep time worth a dam. It does look cool.
> wrote in message
oups.com...
>
>
> John Gaquin wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>>
>> I still wear a Timex Quartz purchased in 1980 for $12.
>
> If you really want a pilot geek watch, the Citizen ones are awfully
> nice, and large enough to cause your wearing arm to swell like a
> fiddler crab's. Conversely, if you want to impress shallow women, Rolex
> remains king. Unless you're hanging out with high-end shallow people, a
> good fake one will more than suffice. The only people who recognize
> Breitlings are other pilots, and all they'll do is make jokes about how
> their Timexes keep better time.
>

Sylvain
July 8th 05, 07:02 AM
Jon Woellhaf wrote:

> Did you ever actually use your watch for some aeronautical purpose while
> flying?

I use the seconds hand to time approaches and hold (but then I could
also use the clock in the dashboard :-)

--Sylvain

July 8th 05, 07:32 AM
About the same here.
Never wore a watch in my 39 years.

The only time I can remeber I really needed one was when I had to boil
something critical when out camping.
I believe it was eggs or rice or something like that, hard to do
without a clock.
Anyway, the problem was solved by running a song with the appropiate
length on a walkman. The song ended, the food was ok.

In the plane I've a $5 watch on the kneeboard.

-Kees

Thomas Borchert
July 8th 05, 08:12 AM
Aluckyguess,

> It does look cool.
>

Define "cool" ;-)

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

John T
July 8th 05, 11:06 AM
about the only time I have a watch is at Oshkosh, if only so I can make
the forums I'm interested in. Even then, I keep in in my pocket.

Kind of a moot point though...if I have my cell phone with me, it has
the time...

John

John Gaquin
July 8th 05, 04:20 PM
"Jon Woellhaf" > wrote in message
> John,
>
> Did you ever actually use your watch for some aeronautical purpose while
> flying?

Of course, Jon.....

1. At brake release, takeoff, or when filling out paperwork, logs, etc, I
would routinely refer to my watch to determine the time. Occasionally I
would have to mentally add or subtract some factor to determine Z time.
This would often require a subsequent nap.

2. At random times enroute, I would refer to my watch, consider relevant
operational factors, and arrive at command conclusions such as "....dinner
should be ready soon..." or "....time for another coffee...".

3. On a few occasions I tried that thing with a watch where you point one
hand at the sun and you can determine North, or where the weather front is,
or some such thing, but the digital display rendered the procedure
problematic.

Fortunately, never in my career did I crash in a remote wilderness and have
to hike out 132 miles. And I always kept a real sliderule in my bag, so I
never needed to have one built into my watch. Just lucky I guess. :-)

Jose
July 8th 05, 04:26 PM
> 2. At random times enroute, I would refer to my watch, consider relevant
> operational factors, and arrive at command conclusions such as "....dinner
> should be ready soon..."

What? Were you roasting a chicken under the cowling?

Jose
--
Nothing takes longer than a shortcut.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

John Gaquin
July 8th 05, 04:39 PM
"Jose" > wrote in message news:gWwze.1848
>
> What? Were you roasting a chicken under the cowling?

No, some airplanes have galleys. But the cowling thing is not a bad
idea..... except for inflight access.

Jon Woellhaf
July 8th 05, 05:45 PM
Ha, ha. That's what I thought.

"John Gaquin" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Jon Woellhaf" > wrote in message
>> John,
>>
>> Did you ever actually use your watch for some aeronautical purpose while
>> flying?
>
> Of course, Jon.....
>
> 1. At brake release, takeoff, or when filling out paperwork, logs, etc, I
> would routinely refer to my watch to determine the time. Occasionally I
> would have to mentally add or subtract some factor to determine Z time.
> This would often require a subsequent nap.
>
> 2. At random times enroute, I would refer to my watch, consider relevant
> operational factors, and arrive at command conclusions such as "....dinner
> should be ready soon..." or "....time for another coffee...".
>
> 3. On a few occasions I tried that thing with a watch where you point one
> hand at the sun and you can determine North, or where the weather front
> is, or some such thing, but the digital display rendered the procedure
> problematic.
>
> Fortunately, never in my career did I crash in a remote wilderness and
> have to hike out 132 miles. And I always kept a real sliderule in my bag,
> so I never needed to have one built into my watch. Just lucky I guess.
> :-)
>

Mike Weller
July 8th 05, 07:38 PM
On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 14:15:51 GMT, Maule Driver
> wrote:

>After wearing various aviation-styled watches over the years - mostly
>moderately priced ones - I stopped wearing a watch all together.
>

You're not alone. When I quit wearing a watch I was never in doubt
about what time it was, or is, or used to be. Just look around. I
even get peeved when I see a wall clock that is not changed to
daylight or standard time. The jillion clocks at home, thanks to
Christmas past, in the car, on the cell phone, or wherever. It's
real easy to tell what time it is!

Flying. Well, I've got the clock(s) at the airport. FSS will tell
you the time to go, the stop watches will tell you how much fuel you
probably use(d). The GPS has phenominal time keeping. Within
nanoseconds. And, of course, the manual wind-up clock that our
friendly folks around (FAA) tell us must have has worked perfectectly
sincel last week. Just push one button on the GPS, NDB receiver,
pilot's yoke, passenger watch, or ... if you really want to know what
time it is, call 544-TIME.

Oh well, I've just driven a tractor in 120 F heat in Alabama. By the
angle of the Sun, and the number of dogs under the porch, I guess its
time to go back out one more time.

Hurricanes are coming. Don't ask me what time.

Mike Weller

John Gaquin
July 9th 05, 04:51 AM
"Jon Woellhaf" > wrote in message

> Ha, ha. That's what I thought.


Good to hear from you. How're the family and the Skylane - in that order?

July 10th 05, 08:02 AM
I am probably what could be described as a Watch Collector; this started
shortly after I started learning to fly in 1999. I own 5 or 6 mechanical
(automatic/hand wind) watches and a couple modern (aka battery-powered)
ones.

I have the Breitling catalogs for several sequential years, but I
stopped getting them after a while, despite my lust for a Montbrilliant
(sp?) variation on the Navitimer model. I do love the looks of those
models...

Why? Because I know of two gentlemen who have had to have their
Breitlings serviced (at their cost) after only a few years of ownership
- and one of those is an electronic watch while the other is a
mechanical one that was immersed in water (not deep) and stopped working
despite a "reasonable" statement about working underwater.

Given the cost of Breitlings - around $10K for the rose gold variant of
the aviation-specific special release done a couple years ago, I have
decided to save those dinars/dollars/simoleans for something that I have
more faith in.

BTW if anyone's interested, the most reliable mechanical watch I have
owned is a Ventura Ego Pi... Based on a fairly standard movement
(Swatch/E


On 6 Jul 2005 14:49:43 -0700, wrote:

>I would like to extend an offer to you or any other pilots that might
>be interested in the Breitling watch line. This is a great watch for
>professionals. Some features include slide rule, emergency tracking,
>chronograph and many more. I can mail you a catalog or your visit
>www.breitling.com
>We are the local representative of the watch line.
>
>Romance Diamond Co. Jeweler
>248 W. Dickson St.
>Fayetteville, AR 72701
>479-443-9289
>www.romancediamond.com
>
>Thank you,
>Brittany Adair

John Gaquin
July 11th 05, 01:37 AM
> wrote in message
oups.com...

> www.breitling.com
> We are the local representative of the watch line.
>
> Romance Diamond Co. Jeweler
>
> Thank you,
> Brittany Adair

I note that Ms Adair has not rushed to the defense of her
product............ :-)

Matt Barrow
July 11th 05, 02:55 AM
"John Gaquin" > wrote in message
...
>
> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>
> > www.breitling.com
> > We are the local representative of the watch line.
> >
> > Romance Diamond Co. Jeweler
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Brittany Adair
>
> I note that Ms Adair has not rushed to the defense of her
> product............ :-)
>
Spammers usually don't stick around.

S.
July 12th 05, 11:41 AM
..........or, of course, there are these :-

http://www.famousbrandwatch.com/proList.asp?classID=56

;-)

S.

Larry Dighera
July 12th 05, 01:05 PM
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:41:14 +0100, "S." > wrote
in >::

>.........or, of course, there are these :-
>
>http://www.famousbrandwatch.com/proList.asp?classID=56
>
>;-)
>

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Jay Beckman
July 13th 05, 06:52 AM
"Jon Woellhaf" > wrote in message
...
> John,
>
> Did you ever actually use your watch for some aeronautical purpose while
> flying?
>
> Jon
>

(Thread Jumping...sorry...)

I have a Citizen "Wingman" that I've owned since 1990 and I can actually
claim to do something aeronautical with it:

If I push the upper right and lower left buttons at the same time, the
digital display changes from local time to UTC. I can then set the watch to
24HR time and voila!, I can tell FSS what time I was wheels up in UTC
without having to do the converson from MST to UTC in my head!

Quite handy actually...

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ

Marty Shapiro
July 13th 05, 10:31 AM
Larry Dighera > wrote in
:

> On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:41:14 +0100, "S." > wrote
> in >::
>
>>.........or, of course, there are these :-
>>
>>http://www.famousbrandwatch.com/proList.asp?classID=56
>>
>>;-)
>>
>
> Trademarks mean nothing to the Chinese:


If you go to their warranty, the very first line reads
"1.All products are replica."

--
Marty Shapiro
Silicon Rallye Inc.

(remove SPAMNOT to email me)

S.
July 13th 05, 07:14 PM
"Larry Dighera" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:41:14 +0100, "S." > wrote
> in >::
>
>>.........or, of course, there are these :-
>>
>>http://www.famousbrandwatch.com/proList.asp?classID=56
>>
>>;-)
>>
>
> Trademarks mean nothing to the Chinese:
>

Which is why I put .................


;-)

Maule Driver
July 13th 05, 09:21 PM
What am I doing here? This thread is dead....

However, I used to do the same thing on my Citizen "whatever". Very
cool. Since ditching it, I have 2 world time programs on my Treo for
'chauffeured' travel overseas and have learned that I can give ATC local
time and get away with it just fine.

Jay Beckman wrote:
>
> I have a Citizen "Wingman" that I've owned since 1990 and I can actually
> claim to do something aeronautical with it:
>
> If I push the upper right and lower left buttons at the same time, the
> digital display changes from local time to UTC. I can then set the watch to
> 24HR time and voila!, I can tell FSS what time I was wheels up in UTC
> without having to do the converson from MST to UTC in my head!
>
> Quite handy actually...

John Gaquin
July 14th 05, 01:08 AM
"Jay Beckman" > wrote in message news:z_1Be.29486
>
> If I push the upper right and lower left buttons at the same time, the
> digital display changes from local time to UTC. I can then set the watch
> to 24HR time and voila!, I can tell FSS what time I was wheels up in UTC
> without having to do the converson from MST to UTC in my head!
>>
> Quite handy actually...


I guess my synapses aren't firing too swiftly today. Would you explain how
the procedure above is easier or more convenient than simply adding 7?

Peter Duniho
July 14th 05, 01:35 AM
"John Gaquin" > wrote in message
...
> I guess my synapses aren't firing too swiftly today. Would you explain
> how the procedure above is easier or more convenient than simply adding 7?

I haven't found converting from local to UTC difficult. However, it's
certainly more complicated than adding an integer to the hours.

You have to account not only for Daylight Saving Time (which would
presumably be accounted for in such a watch), but also for roll-over of the
time (e.g. if you're in a UTC-7 time zone, any time after 1700 will require
the subtraction of 24 from the resulting number to get the actual time).

Furthermore, if you are a pilot, you can easily find yourself in a different
time zone, with a different integer to add. Having a watch do the
calculation for you may avoid accidently adding the wrong integer, or adding
the correct integer wrongly. UTC will be UTC no matter what time zone the
primary display of the watch is set to.

How useful having to push a few buttons to do that computation rather than
doing in oneself, I suppose that depends on the individual. Your mileage
may vary. :) But obviously for Jay, it's something he finds useful, so
it's good he has a watch that does that for him.

Pete

Maule Driver
July 14th 05, 02:40 PM
What Peter said
and;

Hitting a button (two simultaneously in this case) to obtain the correct
UTC conversion is both faster and more accurate for this pilot

My synapses just aren't that good at taking local time, which I would
perceive to be say, 8:15pm EST, and convert it to UTC military time
which (I hope) would be 0115 UTC. What's simple, swift or straight
forward about that conversion unless you do it 10 times a day or
otherwise walkaround spouting the time in military format?

So for this casual pilot, I've come to rely on the simple shorthand we
all use at some time or another "...at 15 after the hour".

For reference, the way my brain works, the conversion from 8:15 EST to
UTC goes like this in my head - "8:15pm = 20:00, 20 + 5 = 25, no, =24+1
or 1, 0100+15=0115UTC, was that EST or EDT?" A button is faster and
more consistently accurate.

Did I do the math right?

Peter Duniho wrote:
> "John Gaquin" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>I guess my synapses aren't firing too swiftly today. Would you explain
>>how the procedure above is easier or more convenient than simply adding 7?
>
>
> I haven't found converting from local to UTC difficult. However, it's
> certainly more complicated than adding an integer to the hours.
>

John Ousterhout
July 14th 05, 03:57 PM
Kyle Boatright wrote:
> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>
>>I would like to extend an offer to you or any other pilots that might
>>be interested in the Breitling watch line. This is a great watch for
>>professionals. Some features include slide rule, emergency tracking,
>>chronograph and many more. I can mail you a catalog or your visit
>>www.breitling.com
>>We are the local representative of the watch line.
>>
>>Romance Diamond Co. Jeweler
>>248 W. Dickson St.
>>Fayetteville, AR 72701
>>479-443-9289
>>www.romancediamond.com
>>
>>Thank you,
>>Brittany Adair
>
>
> I had the pleasure of being gifted with a Breitling watch from my wife.
> Unfortunately, that also stuck me with the bill and responsibility for
> keeping the thing maintained, which is no small order.
>
> Before anyone goes off and buys one of these watches, ask a few questions
> from this list:
>
> 1) If the watch is battery powered, what does it cost to have the battery
> replaced?*
> 2) How often does it need factory service?
> 3) What is the turnaround time on factory service and/or cleaning?
> 4) What does a factory service and/or cleaning cost?
>
> * This is a trick question. Breitling won't "only" replace the battery on
> your watch. Instead, they will offer you two options: 1) Have the XX
> service performed, which is likely to cost $100 or better. OR 2) Take the
> watch elsewhere to get the battery replaced, thus voiding the warranty on
> your very expensive watch.

I received a Citizen Navihawk as a gift about ten years ago. It looks
impressive. It was fun to play with all the functions. Having Zulu
time in the digital window and local time on the analog face is
convenient. The alarms are nice but not loud enough to hear in a
cockpit. I had to have it cleaned after one year because the main
function button quit working. The same thing happened in another year.
And a year later it happened again and couldn't be fixed so Citizen
gave me a new watch under warranty. The same thing happened with the
new watch. I would not buy another Citizen.

Previously I had two Casio $39 watches that lasted about six to eight
years each with no service except for new batteries,

- John Ousterhout -


During the night at a hotel where many airline crews stayed overnight a
captain had to pee, and slightly drunk, opened the door to the hallway
instead of the bathroom and locked himslef out of his room. Naked, and
in panic he knocked on the room next door.

The Flight Attendent in that room looked through the peephole and
seeing the naked man, picked up the telephone and called the front
desk, "There's a naked man outside my door" she cried.

"Does he have a little dick and a big watch?" asked the desk clerk.

"Why yes" the Flight Attendent answered.

"It's just a pilot" relied the desk clerk.

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