Anyone still flying gyrocopters?

[[email protected]]

I flew helos in the Marines, and in the '60s put together a Benson kit.
It logged about 220 hours with zero problems, including a highly idiotic
trip from the CA coast to Catalina. In 1972, however, my wife-to-be
insisted it go before the wedding bells.

Are any of these still around?

Henry



************************************************** ******
************************************************** ******
It's much more than fireworks, barbecues, and beaches. It's a
celebration of the birth of the greatest nation on earth, and like
Independence Days around the world, ours was achieved by those willing
to fight for the ideals in which they had faith. Consider the
poet-lawyer Francis Scott Key in 1813 Baltimore, watching the British
fleet shelling the last barrier to invasion, Fort McHenry. He wrote:

Oh, say can you see, by the dawn's early light,
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

Study those words carefully.
Do you understand? This holiday was brought to you by your military.

[[email protected]]

Quietpilot wrote:

> Henry,
>
> There is a gentleman at Gillespie Field, {SEE} flying one on a regular basis..
> They still exist you will be pleased to know.

It would be interesting if that is the one I sold. Lived in Coronado at the time -
close enough. I'm out to Santee from time to time and will try to find someone who
knows where it's kept, or who's flying it.
Thanks!!

[Bob Martin]

There's a crazy old guy here at FFC who still flies one...


> wrote in message
...
> I flew helos in the Marines, and in the '60s put together a Benson kit.
> It logged about 220 hours with zero problems, including a highly idiotic
> trip from the CA coast to Catalina. In 1972, however, my wife-to-be
> insisted it go before the wedding bells.
>
> Are any of these still around?
>
> Henry
>
>
>
> ************************************************** ******
> ************************************************** ******
> It's much more than fireworks, barbecues, and beaches. It's a
> celebration of the birth of the greatest nation on earth, and like
> Independence Days around the world, ours was achieved by those willing
> to fight for the ideals in which they had faith. Consider the
> poet-lawyer Francis Scott Key in 1813 Baltimore, watching the British
> fleet shelling the last barrier to invasion, Fort McHenry. He wrote:
>
> Oh, say can you see, by the dawn's early light,
> What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming?
> Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous fight,
> O'er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?
> And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
> Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
> O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
> O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?
>
> Study those words carefully.
> Do you understand? This holiday was brought to you by your military.
>

[Wooduuuward]

Must be a good design if he's an old guy. Do you know which
manufacterer / model it is?

Bob Martin wrote:
>
> There's a crazy old guy here at FFC who still flies one...
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > I flew helos in the Marines, and in the '60s put together a Benson kit.
> > It logged about 220 hours with zero problems, including a highly idiotic
> > trip from the CA coast to Catalina. In 1972, however, my wife-to-be
> > insisted it go before the wedding bells.
> >
> > Are any of these still around?
> >
> > Henry
> >
> >
> >
> > ************************************************** ******
> > ************************************************** ******
> > It's much more than fireworks, barbecues, and beaches. It's a
> > celebration of the birth of the greatest nation on earth, and like
> > Independence Days around the world, ours was achieved by those willing
> > to fight for the ideals in which they had faith. Consider the
> > poet-lawyer Francis Scott Key in 1813 Baltimore, watching the British
> > fleet shelling the last barrier to invasion, Fort McHenry. He wrote:
> >
> > Oh, say can you see, by the dawn's early light,
> > What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming?
> > Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous fight,
> > O'er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?
> > And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
> > Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
> > O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
> > O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?
> >
> > Study those words carefully.
> > Do you understand? This holiday was brought to you by your military.
> >

[Bob Martin]

Well, I don't think that the gyro is that old. A year ago he was doing taxi
tests up and down the taxiway between hangar rows without rotor blades. I
want to say that he's about 55-60, but I could be wrong. As my dad said the
other day, that gyro of his is "like a mosquito... all it's good for is
making noise." And whenever he does fly it, it's only for a few circuits
around the pattern.


"Wooduuuward" > wrote in message
...
> Must be a good design if he's an old guy. Do you know which
> manufacterer / model it is?

[Wooduuuward]

Ya, I've heard parts of America and Canada were behind the times. Other
parts of the world have been using them for decades. Although I hear
Florida has one or two also. I found this page that may interest you:
http://popularmechanics.com/science/aviation/2001/8/radical_rotocraft/print.phtml
or this one:
http://www.baliciel.com/ulm/boispierre/boispierre1.htm

Bob Martin wrote:
>
> Well, I don't think that the gyro is that old. A year ago he was doing taxi
> tests up and down the taxiway between hangar rows without rotor blades. I
> want to say that he's about 55-60, but I could be wrong. As my dad said the
> other day, that gyro of his is "like a mosquito... all it's good for is
> making noise." And whenever he does fly it, it's only for a few circuits
> around the pattern.
>
> "Wooduuuward" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Must be a good design if he's an old guy. Do you know which
> > manufacterer / model it is?

[gyrobob]

Let me correct a few errors in your post.

The gyro was made in 2001. It is a Dominator basic powered by a 503,
a good design. True centerline thrust,.. which makes it a lot safer
and faster than the older configurations.

He is 56,.. at least you got that right. Retired USAF fighter guy.
Works for Delta now. A&P, CFI/II/MEI, Aero degrees, etc.

Your Dad is wrong, too. Gyros are good for all kinds of things,..
like sport flying and such. And yes it does make noise, but less than
most of the other aircraft at that field. The Christen Eagle that
shares the hangar with that gyro is quite a bit noisier. How did you
and your Dad develop such a snotty attitude about gyros?

Yes, he does fly lots of circuits flown around the pattern. Currently
he is doing a research on various combinations of props, numbers of
blades, pitches, rotorblade lengths, and such. No sense in flying to
Macon just to see if the rpm changed with that last pitch change.

Often he does fly to airports in the area. I guess you wouldn't
notice that, though, since you can't see it when it is not there, eh?
The gyro also attends a few fly-ins each year. Bensen Days in
Wauchula, Rotors over Carolina in Aiken, and the PRA convention in
Mentone,... plus the occasional pancake breakfast and such.







"Bob Martin" > wrote in message >...
> Well, I don't think that the gyro is that old. A year ago he was doing taxi
> tests up and down the taxiway between hangar rows without rotor blades. I
> want to say that he's about 55-60, but I could be wrong. As my dad said the
> other day, that gyro of his is "like a mosquito... all it's good for is
> making noise." And whenever he does fly it, it's only for a few circuits
> around the pattern.
>
>
> "Wooduuuward" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Must be a good design if he's an old guy. Do you know which
> > manufacterer / model it is?

[gyrobob]

Crazy? Old? Still?

Maybe he's not crazy. Maybe he's not old. Maybe he just started.

Where are you getting your information?

Why would you think him crazy?

"Bob Martin" > wrote in message >...
> There's a crazy old guy here at FFC who still flies one...

[Model Flyer]

"Bob Martin" > wrote in message
...
> Well, I don't think that the gyro is that old. A year ago he was
doing taxi
> tests up and down the taxiway between hangar rows without rotor
blades. I
> want to say that he's about 55-60, but I could be wrong. As my dad
said the
> other day, that gyro of his is "like a mosquito... all it's good
for is
> making noise." And whenever he does fly it, it's only for a few
circuits
> around the pattern.
>

I'm a bit bothered about this, Old guy, at 54 I don't feel like and
'old guy', do I become an 'old guy' on my next birthday?
--

..
--
Cheers,
Jonathan Lowe
modelflyer at antispam dot net

Antispam trap in place


>
> "Wooduuuward" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Must be a good design if he's an old guy. Do you know which
> > manufacterer / model it is?
>
>
>

[Ken Sandyeggo]

(Quietpilot) wrote in message >...
> Henry,
>
> There is a gentleman at Gillespie Field, {SEE} flying one on a regular basis..
> They still exist you will be pleased to know.
>
> MG
> San Diego


That's me flying out of Gillespie in San Diego. It's originally an
RAF, now modified by Groen Bros. (American Autogyro) to a centerline
thrust configuration. Much safer. I've flown from a 4 year old to a
98 year old and have over 400 hours on her. Took my 4 year old buddy
to lunch at Lindbergh International in it. There are pics of the trip
there and many others on my website. My website shows the old
configuration and my new configuration is shown on the main page of
American Autogyro's site. They used my ship for their site photo and
ads. Check out American Autogyro if you're interested in a quality,
2-seat, side-by-side gyro that's a hell of a lot of fun to fly and a
hell of a lot more affordable than a heli. Thanks for the "gentleman"
crack.

Ken J. - Sandy Eggo


http://www.geocities.com/kenj_sandyeggo/KensWebPage.html?942383509800

www.americanautogyro.com

[Ken Sandyeggo]

wrote in message >...
> Quietpilot wrote:
>
> > Henry,
> >
> > There is a gentleman at Gillespie Field, {SEE} flying one on a regular basis..
> > They still exist you will be pleased to know.
>
> It would be interesting if that is the one I sold. Lived in Coronado at the time -
> close enough. I'm out to Santee from time to time and will try to find someone who
> knows where it's kept, or who's flying it.
> Thanks!!

I keep it at Sky Harbor Hangars on Kenney Street, next to the
Aerospace museum near the numbers for 27R. I'm in C-21 if you can get
through the gate. Am almost always there on Saturday a.m.s, both
flying and hangar-rat talking. Call me at (619) 985-9580 (cell) when
you're around. If I'm flying, leave a voice-mail as I'll probably be
back soon and will call you back.

Ken J.

[Wooduuuward]

Yep, nothing you can do about it. Used to be
old guys were in their late sixties. But now they're
getting younger. what?

Model Flyer wrote:
>
> "Bob Martin" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Well, I don't think that the gyro is that old. A year ago he was
> doing taxi
> > tests up and down the taxiway between hangar rows without rotor
> blades. I
> > want to say that he's about 55-60, but I could be wrong. As my dad
> said the
> > other day, that gyro of his is "like a mosquito... all it's good
> for is
> > making noise." And whenever he does fly it, it's only for a few
> circuits
> > around the pattern.
> >
>
> I'm a bit bothered about this, Old guy, at 54 I don't feel like and
> 'old guy', do I become an 'old guy' on my next birthday?
> --
>
> .
> --
> Cheers,
> Jonathan Lowe
> modelflyer at antispam dot net
>
> Antispam trap in place
>
> >
> > "Wooduuuward" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Must be a good design if he's an old guy. Do you know which
> > > manufacterer / model it is?
> >
> >
> >

[Morgans]

"
> I'm a bit bothered about this, Old guy, at 54 I don't feel like and
> 'old guy', do I become an 'old guy' on my next birthday?

The saying goes, that the impression of old is anyone 15 years older than
yourself.

Think about it. It holds true, pretty well. The poster has just told
everyone else about his "inexperience", hasn't he? <g>

Then there is BOb, who even admits that he is old! <g>
--
Jim in NC

[Barnyard BOb --]

"Morgans" wrote:

>> I'm a bit bothered about this, Old guy, at 54 I don't feel like and
>> 'old guy', do I become an 'old guy' on my next birthday?
>
>The saying goes, that the impression of old is anyone 15 years older than
>yourself.
>
>Think about it. It holds true, pretty well. The poster has just told
>everyone else about his "inexperience", hasn't he? <g>
>
>Then there is BOb, who even admits that he is old! <g>
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

You know you're old when......
AARP solicits you for membership.

That would be age 55.



Barnyard BOb -- 10 year member

[Michael Pilla]

"Barnyard BOb --" > wrote in message
...
<snip>
> >Then there is BOb, who even admits that he is old! <g>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> You know you're old when......
> AARP solicits you for membership.
>
> That would be age 55.
>
>
>
> Barnyard BOb -- 10 year member

Hmmm, AARP solicited me when I turned 50 - guess I'm in the dinosaur
category, or maybe fossil.

Michael Pilla

[Barnyard BOb --]

>> You know you're old when......
>> AARP solicits you for membership.
>>
>> That would be age 55.
>>
>>
>>
>> Barnyard BOb -- 10 year member
>
>Hmmm, AARP solicited me when I turned 50 - guess I'm in the dinosaur
>category, or maybe fossil.
>
>Michael Pilla
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

OOPS.
Sorry, Michael...
I stand corrected.
Age 50 it is.

It's all I can do to remember my "N" number
inscribed on the instrument panel in BIG letters.


Barnyard BOb -
Who needs Viagra....
When you have aviation.

[Barnyard BOb --]

"Lee Willcox" > wrote:

>HA! I'm 61 and I AIN'T old yet. I'm still just a little over 17.......
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I was too...
Until many equally 17 or younger friends departed
this world for one geriatric reason another. ;o(


Barnayrd BOb -- play kick the can, not the bucket.

[Warren & Nancy]

Barnyard BOb -- wrote:

>
>
> Barnyard BOb -
> Who needs Viagra....
> When you have aviation.

Damn! What do you do when you can't have either?

[Gilan]

In Norridgewock,Maine on August 1st, 2nd and 3rd. The PRA Chapter #739, "The
Yankee Rotors", will be there showing how gyro-planes can do what others
cannot. Fun,fun,fun.


--
Have a good day and stay out of the trees!
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sport_Aircraft/

Join "The Ultralight & Experimental Aircraft SiteRing"
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wrote..
> I flew helos in the Marines, and in the '60s put together a Benson kit.
> It logged about 220 hours with zero problems, including a highly idiotic
> trip from the CA coast to Catalina. In 1972, however, my wife-to-be
> insisted it go before the wedding bells.
>
> Are any of these still around?
>
> Henry

[Robert Bonomi]

In article >,
Michael Pilla > wrote:
>"Barnyard BOb --" > wrote in message
...
><snip>
>> >Then there is BOb, who even admits that he is old! <g>
>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>> You know you're old when......
>> AARP solicits you for membership.
>>
>> That would be age 55.
>>
>>
>>
>> Barnyard BOb -- 10 year member
>
>Hmmm, AARP solicited me when I turned 50 - guess I'm in the dinosaur
>category, or maybe fossil.
>
>Michael Pilla
>
>

Bah! AARP solicited me the year I turned TWENTY.

That happened to be the year my father (we share the same first name,
although with different middle names) turned 55, _and_ he moved to
a different town, *AND* I had my own place.

[Mark Hickey]

Barnyard BOb -- > wrote:

>It's all I can do to remember my "N" number
>inscribed on the instrument panel in BIG letters.

You may have to trade up (?) to an RV-6 so you can take someone along
to remind you soon...

Mark Hickey

[Barnyard BOb --]

Mark Hickey > wrote:

>Barnyard BOb -- > wrote:
>
>>It's all I can do to remember my "N" number
>>inscribed on the instrument panel in BIG letters.
>
>You may have to trade up (?) to an RV-6 so you can take someone along
>to remind you soon...
>
>Mark Hickey
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

You bet.
Trading up is the answer!
Especially, since my hangar rent just DOUBLED.

This would cut my costs...
PER SEAT MILE
to what I'm already paying.

Following this logic --
If I acquire an RV-10....
I can cut my costs in half again.
Nothing like pricing costs based on a per seat mile basis.
When flying gets far too expensive for the family budget,
just add a few seats to make it, once again, affordable.


Barnyard BOb -- figures can lie and liars can figure

[Big John]

BOb

How much longer before you just build your own hanger? Or get your own
grass strip and to he** with bean counters.

Big John
Older than you

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 23:52:28 -0500, Barnyard BOb -- >
wrote:

>
>
>Mark Hickey > wrote:
>
>>Barnyard BOb -- > wrote:
>>
>>>It's all I can do to remember my "N" number
>>>inscribed on the instrument panel in BIG letters.
>>
>>You may have to trade up (?) to an RV-6 so you can take someone along
>>to remind you soon...
>>
>>Mark Hickey
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>You bet.
>Trading up is the answer!
>Especially, since my hangar rent just DOUBLED.
>
>This would cut my costs...
>PER SEAT MILE
>to what I'm already paying.
>
>Following this logic --
>If I acquire an RV-10....
>I can cut my costs in half again.
>Nothing like pricing costs based on a per seat mile basis.
>When flying gets far too expensive for the family budget,
>just add a few seats to make it, once again, affordable.
>
>
>Barnyard BOb -- figures can lie and liars can figure

[Larry Smith]

"Barnyard BOb --" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Mark Hickey > wrote:
>
> >Barnyard BOb -- > wrote:
> >
> >>It's all I can do to remember my "N" number
> >>inscribed on the instrument panel in BIG letters.
> >
> >You may have to trade up (?) to an RV-6 so you can take someone along
> >to remind you soon...
> >
> >Mark Hickey
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> You bet.
> Trading up is the answer!
> Especially, since my hangar rent just DOUBLED.

Maybe they want you out. Potbellied ol' curmudgeon.

Move to Pahrump or Beebers, ND. Hangar rent is cheap there and curmudgeons
are plentiful.

Deming, NM?

>
> This would cut my costs...
> PER SEAT MILE
> to what I'm already paying.
>
Whine, whine, whine.

[Jean-Paul Roy]

better be an old guy than a young ****,,,,,,,,,lollllllllllll
"Model Flyer" > a écrit dans le message news:
...
>
> "Bob Martin" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Well, I don't think that the gyro is that old. A year ago he was
> doing taxi
> > tests up and down the taxiway between hangar rows without rotor
> blades. I
> > want to say that he's about 55-60, but I could be wrong. As my dad
> said the
> > other day, that gyro of his is "like a mosquito... all it's good
> for is
> > making noise." And whenever he does fly it, it's only for a few
> circuits
> > around the pattern.
> >
>
> I'm a bit bothered about this, Old guy, at 54 I don't feel like and
> 'old guy', do I become an 'old guy' on my next birthday?
> --
>
> .
> --
> Cheers,
> Jonathan Lowe
> modelflyer at antispam dot net
>
> Antispam trap in place
>
>
> >
> > "Wooduuuward" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Must be a good design if he's an old guy. Do you know which
> > > manufacterer / model it is?
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[Barnyard BOb --]

>BOb
>
>How much longer before you just build your own hanger? Or get your own
>grass strip and to he** with bean counters.
>
>Big John
>Older than you
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

NEVER!!!!!

One cannot build one's own hangar at 3GV.
When the airport corporation sees fit, they build
and sell new hangars. The last ones went for
$45,000 and the monthly maintenance fee
recently went up to $190 a month... for now.
Makes no sense to me to put a $25,000 plane
in a $45,000 hangar and pay a maintenance
fee of $190 to boot.

OTOH....
With your kind of money maybe you are
prepared to buy the necessary acreage in
the sticks for your own strip, but I find that
I have no desire to mow grass if somebody
gave me the land. My buddy about 60 miles
away, did just what you suggested. He had to
buy 100 acres to start and had a boat load of
trouble with the Army Corp of Engineers when
he started to cut trees and blade off the land.
After a couple of years, he had well over
$300,000 in the project plus he still needed
to build living quarters with attached hangar.
His outlay has passed .5 million and all he has
is an old C-721 and a new Kitfox IV, but this
was his dream and now it's fulfilled. I'm happy
for him, of course, but this is not for me.

The practical thing for me to do is...
bide my time until I can find an owner of a small
T hangar that wants to bail out. Problem is,
there are lots of sharks waiting to snap them up
and then go into the $170 to $200 a month slum
lord hangar rental business. I've got the word out that
I'm looking to buy one of these 35 year old pole barn
relics, but they sell fast and it's just a matter of luck
and being in the right place at the right time to get one....
then being prepared to put a roof on and who knows
what else.


Barnyard BOb

[Big John]

BOb

I was thinking about a strip 50 yards wide and 2500 ft long on the
edge of some farmers pasture. Put up what you call a pole barn hanger.
Either sell or let the farmer cut the cover for feed.

Would probably have to fly out to get fuel but that could be handled.

Is there land adjacent to airport that could be purchased to build T
Hangers? If so you might go into business and get a free ride or even
make gas money?

Keep the A/C on. It's getting hotter every day.

Big John



On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 19:21:18 -0500, Barnyard BOb -- >
wrote:

>
>>BOb
>>
>>How much longer before you just build your own hanger? Or get your own
>>grass strip and to he** with bean counters.
>>
>>Big John
>>Older than you
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>NEVER!!!!!
>
>One cannot build one's own hangar at 3GV.
>When the airport corporation sees fit, they build
>and sell new hangars. The last ones went for
>$45,000 and the monthly maintenance fee
>recently went up to $190 a month... for now.
>Makes no sense to me to put a $25,000 plane
>in a $45,000 hangar and pay a maintenance
>fee of $190 to boot.
>
>OTOH....
>With your kind of money maybe you are
>prepared to buy the necessary acreage in
>the sticks for your own strip, but I find that
>I have no desire to mow grass if somebody
>gave me the land. My buddy about 60 miles
>away, did just what you suggested. He had to
>buy 100 acres to start and had a boat load of
>trouble with the Army Corp of Engineers when
>he started to cut trees and blade off the land.
>After a couple of years, he had well over
>$300,000 in the project plus he still needed
>to build living quarters with attached hangar.
>His outlay has passed .5 million and all he has
>is an old C-721 and a new Kitfox IV, but this
>was his dream and now it's fulfilled. I'm happy
>for him, of course, but this is not for me.
>
>The practical thing for me to do is...
>bide my time until I can find an owner of a small
>T hangar that wants to bail out. Problem is,
>there are lots of sharks waiting to snap them up
>and then go into the $170 to $200 a month slum
>lord hangar rental business. I've got the word out that
>I'm looking to buy one of these 35 year old pole barn
>relics, but they sell fast and it's just a matter of luck
>and being in the right place at the right time to get one....
>then being prepared to put a roof on and who knows
>what else.
>
>
>Barnyard BOb
>

[dann mann]

So he has a hundred acres, private airstrip. new home miscellaneous
stuff for half a million bucks? That barely buys you a starter home here
in San Diego and your neighbors are literally within arms length.
Where is this place he lives?

[Big John]

Dann

I didn't mention that a new $800,000 house just went up across the
street from my adobe hovel. It's hell to be poor.

Big John


On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 18:34:39 -0700 (PDT), (dann
mann) wrote:

>So he has a hundred acres, private airstrip. new home miscellaneous
>stuff for half a million bucks? That barely buys you a starter home here
>in San Diego and your neighbors are literally within arms length.
>Where is this place he lives?
>
>
>

[Barnyard BOb --]

(dann mann) wrote:

>So he has a hundred acres, private airstrip. new home miscellaneous
>stuff for half a million bucks? That barely buys you a starter home here
>in San Diego and your neighbors are literally within arms length.
>Where is this place he lives?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Middle of nowhere, Kansass......
Where minimum wage prevails,
if you can find a job.



Barnyard BOb

[Barnyard BOb --]

On 13 Jul 2003 00:05:14 -0700, wrote:

>>>So he has a hundred acres, private airstrip. new home miscellaneous
>>>stuff for half a million bucks? That barely buys you a starter home here
>>>in San Diego and your neighbors are literally within arms length.
>>>Where is this place he lives?
>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>Middle of nowhere, Kansass......
>>Where minimum wage prevails,
>>if you can find a job.
>>
>>
>>
>>Barnyard BOb
>
>And tornados, floods, drought, blizzards, thunderstorms every frigging day, etc.
================================================== ==

Yep...
AND that's the good points.

The Marais des Cygne River has washed away this
private grass strip once since it was built in 1995.

Nothing like living in the 'burbs' of Trading Post, KS.
http://skyways.lib.ks.us/counties/LN/
Population - appx 2...... and no zip code.

Hee Haw !


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[Morgans]

> wrote in message ...
> In article >, Barnyard says...
> >
> >
> >
> (dann mann) wrote:
> >
> >>So he has a hundred acres, private airstrip. new home miscellaneous
> >>stuff for half a million bucks? That barely buys you a starter home here
> >>in San Diego and your neighbors are literally within arms length.
> >>Where is this place he lives?
> >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> >Middle of nowhere, Kansass......
> >Where minimum wage prevails,
> >if you can find a job.
> >
> >
> >
> >Barnyard BOb
>
> And tornados, floods, drought, blizzards, thunderstorms every frigging
day, etc.

And you have the B*LLs to compare California to anywhere? You have more
natural disasters than almost anywhere on the face of the earth!
--
Jim in NC

P.S. BOb, you missed that one. Don't make me have to defend you again! <g>

[gyrobob]

(Corrie) wrote in message >...

> Growing old is mandatory. Growing up is optional.


That's why I fly gyrocopters. At any age, they are more fun than you
should be allowed to have.

[Del Rawlins]

On 13 Jul 2003 09:28 AM, Larry Smith posted the following:

> A little anecdote here: If you've never landed on the runway at
> mountainous Grundy, VA, you just THINK you've landed an airplane.

Try telling that to my good friend "Boog":

http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/planes/avpix/boog.html

For him it was just another day at the office.

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Del Rawlins wrote:
> On 13 Jul 2003 09:28 AM, Larry Smith posted the following:
>
>
>>A little anecdote here: If you've never landed on the runway at
>>mountainous Grundy, VA, you just THINK you've landed an airplane.
>
>
> Try telling that to my good friend "Boog":
>
> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/planes/avpix/boog.html
>
> For him it was just another day at the office.
>
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Faces and N numbers altered to protect the guilty.
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[Del Rawlins]

On 13 Jul 2003 06:12 PM, Rich S. posted the following:

> Uh..... Del? While I have the greatest respect for pilots who fly the
> bush, it seems a bit condescending to generalize the "alarm factor" of
> all lower 48 pilots. In many cases, the equipment is the limiting
> factor - not the pilot's ability or timidity. In other instances, the
> lower 48 pilot simply does not have the experience nor the need to
> gain such.

It was not my intention to imply that *all* lower 48 pilots share Mr.
Higdon's sentiments. In any field of endeavor there are always those in
the minority who choose to ridicule those who are capable of things they
themselves cannot do. My previous flame (if it can be called such, I
thought it was fairly tame) was directed only at those few individuals.

> It would be equally as wrong for someone to make light of the bush
> driver's capacity to handle a low-visibility high-density traffic
> situation, simply because his steed may not have needed avionics or
> because he may not be accustomed to machine-gun radio traffic. Can we
> all just get along?

Sounds good to me.

> Rich "I ain't got big tires" S.

Hey, I'm just a low time wannabe who hangs out with real bush pilots, as
far as that goes. I'm actually considering putting little tires with
wheelpants on my Bearhawk, on the theory that when I am flying airport
to airport, I want to go fast. The rest of the time I plan to spend on
floats. 8^) Maybe after I have a couple thousand hours I will consider
playing in the sticks and rocks like that.

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[Rich S.]

"Del Rawlins" > wrote in message
...
> It was not my intention to imply that *all* lower 48 pilots share Mr.
> Higdon's sentiments.

Knowing your style, I didn't really think it was - just wanted to let you
know that's how it came across.

No big deal anyway - I probably should have hit delete instead of send.

Rich S.

[Rich S.]

"Bill Higdon" > wrote in message
...
>
> I find this to be rather interesting, as I made the comment in fun,
> because the N numbers and faces were deliberatly obscured.

Okay, okay. Now that everybody's overreacted, let's kiss and make up.

Higdon - Don't ever throw T-bone in front of a pack of snarling dogs agin!

Rich S.

[Del Rawlins]

On 14 Jul 2003 01:10 PM, Bill Higdon posted the following:

> I find this to be rather interesting, as I made the comment in fun,
> because the N numbers and faces were deliberatly obscured.
> Bill Higdon

Guess I've been hanging out in this newsgroup too long. 8^)

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[Barnyard BOb --]

>
>Okay, okay. Now that everybody's overreacted, let's kiss and make up.
>
>Higdon - Don't ever throw T-bone in front of a pack of snarling dogs agin!
>
>Rich S.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Ahem....
EVERYBODY did not overreact.


Barnyard BOb -- everybody minus one?