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Jim Burns
July 11th 05, 02:21 PM
For those that have seen the Masters of Disaster air show this may or may
not come as a shock, but Jimmy Franklin and Bobby Younkin are no longer with
us.

See www.avweb.com for the story.

They will be missed.

Jim

Jay Honeck
July 11th 05, 02:38 PM
> For those that have seen the Masters of Disaster air show this may or may
> not come as a shock, but Jimmy Franklin and Bobby Younkin are no longer
> with
> us.

What a shame. What an awful thing to happen right before OSH, too.

Those guys were the best showmen I've ever seen in an airshow. Some people
decried their "Masters of Disaster" airshow as being "too unstructured" (and
maybe it really was, judging by what happened) -- but it was truly exciting
to watch, and got a lot of people interested in aviation.

And that Jet-powered Waco was just unbelievable.

From what I've read, Franklin's son was narrating the show when his dad and
Younkin were killed. At least no one on the ground was hurt.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck
July 11th 05, 02:42 PM
http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=6914b672-d419-4864-bf52-2aac7f50f3a5

A decent newspaper article describing the crash.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Gene Seibel
July 11th 05, 04:13 PM
This one hurts. I've been following Jimmy throughout my years of
flying. First saw him at the balloon fiesta in Albuquerque many years
ago when he was new on the airshow circuit. He'd disappear into the
arroyos and appear again. Real cool. On one flight he returned to
Coronado Airport and as he touched down, discovered he had a brake
locked up. He had the presence of mind, quick reflexes and of course
the power to pull up and fly over to the Sunport where he landed on
grass with emergency equipment standing by. He nosed over on landing,
but was flying again the next day. Maybe it wasn't a big deal, but as a
new pilot I was very impressed. Last saw him fly his Waco jet a couple
years ago at Quad Cities. What a performer.
--
Gene Seibel

Mike Rapoport
July 11th 05, 04:29 PM
"Jim Burns" > wrote in message
...
> For those that have seen the Masters of Disaster air show this may or may
> not come as a shock, but Jimmy Franklin and Bobby Younkin are no longer
> with
> us.
>
> See www.avweb.com for the story.
>
> They will be missed.
>
> Jim

It was a good show but I remember wondering aloud at OSH last year how long
they could do it before was a collision.

Mike
MU-2

Jim Burns
July 11th 05, 04:54 PM
I was fortunate enough to see their show three separate times, the last was
just last month in Janesville, WI. My thoughts echoed yours and those of
many others each time I saw them.

At Janesville, Bobby Younkin performed his Learjet show. After a low level
smoke on hi-speed pass down rwy 22 he flew off over the trees and TOTALLY
disappeared. The crowd was silent and the announcer stumbled and hesitated.
We were all waiting for the noise and the fireball. Seconds later he pulled
up and the crowd sighed a huge sigh of relieve. Scared the crap out of
everybody. Since seeing that, I flew over the west end of 22 at JVL and the
only thing I can figure out is that he flew down the river, below the tree
line.

Jim



"Mike Rapoport" > wrote in message
ink.net...
>
>
> It was a good show but I remember wondering aloud at OSH last year how
long
> they could do it before was a collision.
>
> Mike
> MU-2
>
>

Dale
July 11th 05, 04:57 PM
In article . com>,
"Gene Seibel" > wrote:

> This one hurts. I've been following Jimmy throughout my years of
> flying.

I learned to fly at the same time Bobby Younkin did, and from the same
airport. We lived east of Springdale, under the "practice area". I'd
hear his Decatholon and look up to see him flying inverted to the
practice area, then get a good aerobatics display as he played around.

--
Dale L. Falk

There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing around with airplanes.

http://home.gci.net/~sncdfalk/flying.html

Blueskies
July 11th 05, 10:23 PM
"Jim Burns" > wrote in message ...
> For those that have seen the Masters of Disaster air show this may or may
> not come as a shock, but Jimmy Franklin and Bobby Younkin are no longer with
> us.
>
> See www.avweb.com for the story.
>
> They will be missed.
>
> Jim
>
>

Jimmy was one of the best - I remember his inverted flat spins to unbelievably low altitude. Even after watching so many
others he would always make me take notice of his maneuvers. Younkin was great also, but I never saw his Lear routine.
Now I never will.

Blueskies always, Jimmy & Bobby!

tony roberts
July 12th 05, 06:33 AM
I knew Jimmy Franklin and Jim Leroy.
I have met, but can't claim to know Bobby Younkin.
From what I have seen of the videos, Jimmy Franklin pulled up to miss
Jim Leroy (no blame attached here), and collided with Bobby Younkin.

A very sad day - we have lost two of the very best in North America.
My heart goes out to the families - particularly to Jimmy's son who was
announcing the routine when the accident happened.

Moosejaw ain't having much luck lately!

We should all be holding Jimmy's and Bobby's families close in our
hearts tonight.

Tony

--

Tony Roberts
PP-ASEL
VFR OTT
Night
Cessna 172H C-GICE

Hilton
July 12th 05, 07:49 AM
Tony,

> From what I have seen of the videos, Jimmy Franklin pulled up to miss
> Jim Leroy (no blame attached here), and collided with Bobby Younkin.

Is the video on the web? I don't particularly like watching such videos,
but I'm trying to figure out how three aircraft were involved in a mid-air.
Alternatively, you could describe it for us; i.e. how was LeRoy's plane
damaged?

Thanks,

Hilton

Icebound
July 12th 05, 03:25 PM
>>
> Is the video on the web?

http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=6914b672-d419-4864-bf52-2aac7f50f3a5

Gig 601XL Builder
July 12th 05, 05:35 PM
"Icebound" > wrote in message
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>>>
>> Is the video on the web?
>
> http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=6914b672-d419-4864-bf52-2aac7f50f3a5
>
>
>

What format is that video in? I just get the pip-up with blanks where the
video should be.

Icebound
July 12th 05, 05:59 PM
"Gig 601XL Builder" <wr.giacona@coxDOTnet> wrote in message
news:QiSAe.40222$DC2.29781@okepread01...
>
> "Icebound" > wrote in message
> ...
>>>>
>>> Is the video on the web?
>>
>> http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=6914b672-d419-4864-bf52-2aac7f50f3a5
>>
>>
>>
>
> What format is that video in? I just get the pip-up with blanks where the
> video should be.

REAL

I found that if you watch one, you then have to refresh the main page before
clicking on the other, but it all works here.

>

Mortimer Schnerd, RN
July 12th 05, 06:01 PM
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
>> http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=6914b672-d419-4864-bf52-2aac7f50f3a5
>
> What format is that video in? I just get the pip-up with blanks where the
> video should be.


It was Real Video. A little player popped up instead of my more usual Windows
Media Player. I actually found a file a couple of years ago called
REALALT102.EXE on the web that allows me to run Real Audio and video files
without all the spyware. I have a copy if you can't find it anywhere else.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN


giganews
July 12th 05, 06:18 PM
> "Jim Burns" > wrote in message
...
> > For those that have seen the Masters of Disaster air show this may or
may
> > not come as a shock, but Jimmy Franklin and Bobby Younkin are no longer
with
> > us.
> >
> > See www.avweb.com for the story.
> >
> > They will be missed.
> >
> > Jim
> >

Did anyone notice that on the AirVenture Air Show page today, Franklin's
and Younkin's names have been erased? Gone. Like they didn't exist. The
EAA took the time to do a big write-up about a plane that won't be coming
due to wing corrosion, but nothing about this tragedy. Somehow I expected
more from them.

David Odum
July 12th 05, 07:09 PM
"giganews" > wrote:

>Did anyone notice that on the AirVenture Air Show page today, Franklin's
>and Younkin's names have been erased? Gone. Like they didn't exist. The
>EAA took the time to do a big write-up about a plane that won't be coming
>due to wing corrosion, but nothing about this tragedy. Somehow I expected
>more from them.

I expect that if, instead of wing corrosion, the B-29 had gone up in a
ball of flames crash then it too would have quietly disappeared from
the AirVenture website, and correctly so. It should be noted that the
EAA did write up the accident on the EAA website (www.eaa.org), where
it remains the top article at the time of this writing ("EAA Mourns
Loss of Younkin, Franklin in Air Show Accident").

David - email: David at AirplaneZone dot com

Jose
July 12th 05, 07:47 PM
> What format is that video in? I just get the pip-up with blanks where the
> video should be.

Whatever format it is in, it is buried inside a flash object. I had to
activate flash to see it, and then deactiveate it when done (by renaming
all versions of flash.ocx and swflash.ocx)

Jose
--
Nothing takes longer than a shortcut.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

July 12th 05, 08:29 PM
Jose > wrote:
> Whatever format it is in, it is buried inside a flash object. I had to
> activate flash to see it, and then deactiveate it when done (by renaming
> all versions of flash.ocx and swflash.ocx)

Must depend on what system and software you have. I didn't have to do
anything before, after or in between to view them, just click. They are
compelling, but hard to watch (emotionally).

Dave Stadt
July 13th 05, 12:41 AM
"giganews" > wrote in message
...
> > "Jim Burns" > wrote in message
> ...
> > > For those that have seen the Masters of Disaster air show this may or
> may
> > > not come as a shock, but Jimmy Franklin and Bobby Younkin are no
longer
> with
> > > us.
> > >
> > > See www.avweb.com for the story.
> > >
> > > They will be missed.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
>
> Did anyone notice that on the AirVenture Air Show page today, Franklin's
> and Younkin's names have been erased? Gone. Like they didn't exist. The
> EAA took the time to do a big write-up about a plane that won't be coming
> due to wing corrosion, but nothing about this tragedy. Somehow I expected
> more from them.


You must not know how to look. Yesterday the accident story was front and
center on the EAA home page. It is still there today but down a couple of
stories.

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