Pix of Oshkosh this week

[Jay Honeck]

Here are a few pix I snapped as we flew over OSH at 8500 feet, on our way
back from Mackinac Island.

Looks like their already bustling, although no one was in the North 40 yet.

http://alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/2005MackinacIsland/SOSHfromAirGettingReadyForFly-In%207-05.jpg

http://alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/2005MackinacIsland/SOSHfromAirGettingReadyForFly-In2%207-05.jpg

http://alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/2005MackinacIsland/sOSHfromAirGettingReadyForFly-In3%207-05.jpg

And here's one of storied Lambeau Field, in Green Bay, as we passed over,
just for the heckuva it:

http://alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/2005MackinacIsland/SLambeauField2%207-05.jpg
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Montblack]

("Jim Burns" wrote)(
> They just got done with a big country music festival at OSH, so all the
> porta potties are in place, fences are up, and the grass is already beat
> to
> a pulp. It's definately summer in Wisconsin!


Twin Cities = 10 straight days in the mid 90's (first time since the BIG
drought year of 1988).

We had a small sprinkle of rain today, maybe more tonight. Slightly cooler
weather coming behind this front will last a day or two - we'll send it on
over. Then it's back up to the 90's later in the week.


Montblack

[Jim Burns]

They just got done with a big country music festival at OSH, so all the
porta potties are in place, fences are up, and the grass is already beat to
a pulp. It's definately summer in Wisconsin!

Jim

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:gFFCe.183852$xm3.75852@attbi_s21...
> Here are a few pix I snapped as we flew over OSH at 8500 feet, on our way
> back from Mackinac Island.
>
> Looks like their already bustling, although no one was in the North 40
yet.
>
>
http://alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/2005MackinacIsland/SOSHfromAirGettingReadyForFly-In%207-05.jpg
>
>
http://alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/2005MackinacIsland/SOSHfromAirGettingReadyForFly-In2%207-05.jpg
>
>
http://alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/2005MackinacIsland/sOSHfromAirGettingReadyForFly-In3%207-05.jpg
>
> And here's one of storied Lambeau Field, in Green Bay, as we passed over,
> just for the heckuva it:
>
>
http://alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/2005MackinacIsland/SLambeauField2%207-05.jpg
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[Jay Honeck]

> Twin Cities = 10 straight days in the mid 90's (first time since the BIG
> drought year of 1988).

Yeah, that was an amazing year, 1988. We had just bought our first house,
the summer before, and knew that we'd have to paint it the following year.

To our astonishment, it didn't rain at all, all summer. We were able to
paint outside every day after work, and -- since we were entirely shaded by
21 full-grown oak trees, and were less than a mile from Lake Michigan -- the
heat wasn't bad at all.

Farmers will hate me for saying it, but that year -- and this year -- are as
close to "perfect" summers as I've seen. VFR every day, sunny and warm.
THAT is summer, gentlemen!

:-)

Now if only it cools down a tad before OSH, it really WILL have been a
perfect summer!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jim Burns]

Ah, I don't hate you for saying it.... we irrigate everything and have a
saying that we'd rather have a drought than a flood because we haven't
figure out a way to stop a flood, but we sure know how to irrigate.... we
just wish somebody would pay the electric bills!

So far, here at least, 1988 was worse, but we won't know until it's over.

Jim

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:nhNCe.184377$xm3.94572@attbi_s21...
> > Twin Cities = 10 straight days in the mid 90's (first time since the BIG
> > drought year of 1988).
>
> Yeah, that was an amazing year, 1988. We had just bought our first house,
> the summer before, and knew that we'd have to paint it the following year.
>
> To our astonishment, it didn't rain at all, all summer. We were able to
> paint outside every day after work, and -- since we were entirely shaded
by
> 21 full-grown oak trees, and were less than a mile from Lake Michigan --
the
> heat wasn't bad at all.
>
> Farmers will hate me for saying it, but that year -- and this year -- are
as
> close to "perfect" summers as I've seen. VFR every day, sunny and warm.
> THAT is summer, gentlemen!
>
> :-)
>
> Now if only it cools down a tad before OSH, it really WILL have been a
> perfect summer!
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[John T]

OK, good...looks like nobody's in MY spot in camp scholler yet! :)

John

[RST Engineering]

Most of us in the hills on the Left Coast don't air condition. For the
three or four days of 90 degrees we get a summer, it just isn't worth it.
For those few days, we just have a nonstop pool party and be done with it.

It was 98d in the bedroom last night when I went to bed at 10 and it dropped
all the way to 87 this morning at 6. It has just been flat MISERABLE out
here for almost two weeks now. The forecast is that it will drop back into
the low 80s during the day this Friday ... just in time for us to leave for
Oshkosh.

Somebody said that the grass at OSH was burned brown. From Jay's pictures,
it looks like a mix of green and light brown. And, the progs show one hell
of a storm system moving across the area today and tonight. Can anybody
update the group with current sky/grass conditions at Oshkosh?

Jim



"Jim Burns" > wrote in message
...
> Ah, I don't hate you for saying it.... we irrigate everything and have a
> saying that we'd rather have a drought than a flood

[Jim Burns]

I'm 60 miles straight west of OSH, no real difference in the weather from
here to there. I'm looking at partly cloudy skies, winds from the south,
south-west at around 15mph, 80 degrees (10:45am local). The area around OSH
does have more clay in it's soil than we do, so the grass is a little
greener, but we nor they have had any rain since July 4th. Any greenness
around here is either irrigated or weeds. My lawn is absolutely dried and
fried, totally brown.

I noticed that they've combined a lot of wheat, rye, and oats around OSH,
nothing ready yet here, so that means they've been dryer and hoter than us.
It's about 2 weeks earlier for them than last year.

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/mos/getmex.pl?sta=KOSH
is the long range model for this week, you'll have to de-code it, but that
storm that's headed this way is primarily wind, no moisture, best chance is
61% for Thursday at OSH, and that's a 50% chance of a thunderstorm, so it
could be spotty, sky cover either clear or partly cloudy, lows in the 60's,
highs in the mid to high 80s.

Jim

[W P Dixon]

WOW!,
Only 80 degrees and your grass is brown? What kind of grass do ya'll have
up there? I do remember working at Midwest Airlines in Milwaukee and they'd
turn the AC on in the hangars when it was 70 degrees in June! Bout froze
this Georgia boy to death! They were all sweating and complaining about the
massive heat wave and I had a sweatshirt on ! ;)
You guys going to OSH be sure and check out the sport plane section for
me!

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"Jim Burns" > wrote in message
...
> I'm 60 miles straight west of OSH, no real difference in the weather from
> here to there. I'm looking at partly cloudy skies, winds from the south,
> south-west at around 15mph, 80 degrees (10:45am local). The area around
> OSH
> does have more clay in it's soil than we do, so the grass is a little
> greener, but we nor they have had any rain since July 4th. Any greenness
> around here is either irrigated or weeds. My lawn is absolutely dried and
> fried, totally brown.
>
> I noticed that they've combined a lot of wheat, rye, and oats around OSH,
> nothing ready yet here, so that means they've been dryer and hoter than
> us.
> It's about 2 weeks earlier for them than last year.
>
> http://www.nws.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/mos/getmex.pl?sta=KOSH
> is the long range model for this week, you'll have to de-code it, but
> that
> storm that's headed this way is primarily wind, no moisture, best chance
> is
> 61% for Thursday at OSH, and that's a 50% chance of a thunderstorm, so it
> could be spotty, sky cover either clear or partly cloudy, lows in the
> 60's,
> highs in the mid to high 80s.
>
> Jim
>
>

[Montblack]

("Jim Burns" wrote)
[snip]
> http://www.nws.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/mos/getmex.pl?sta=KOSH
> is the long range model for this week, you'll have to de-code it, but
> that
> storm that's headed this way is primarily wind, no moisture, best chance
> is
> 61% for Thursday at OSH, and that's a 50% chance of a thunderstorm, so it
> could be spotty, sky cover either clear or partly cloudy, lows in the
> 60's,
> highs in the mid to high 80s.


Windy now (25mph) in the Twin Cities at 11:00 am, temps have dropped (20F)
to the mid 70's. No rain.


We're flying (It's a Frontier jet *called* Casino Express) to Elko, NV
tomorrow. $88 per person - RT flight, 3 nights hotel ...includes EVERYTHING,
except food. Visa was charged $176 for two of us - that's it. Price even
covers the ride to and from the airport :-)

I know, I know - they would like us to gamble. But how do I wager on
Football mini-camps??? <g>

We'll rent a car once out there and maybe head into Utah or Idaho for a
look-see. Margene's mom just got back from her $75 per person 3 night stay
vacation package - from Minot, ND. She said it was a little toasty out by
the pool.

This will be fun, I haven't been west of Denver since 1988.


Montblack - chasing the heat.

[RST Engineering]

If you like lamb, there are a couple of Basque restaurants over by the
Stockmen's Hotel that have the absolute best lamb I've had on the planet.
Don't miss them if you are a lamb fan. They serve home-style which means
they keep on bringing more out of the kitchen until you say "enough".

What hotel do they stuff you into in Elko? BTW, that means you are coming
home Friday, and Jack Allison and I will be coming directly over Elko
International Friday about 9 on our way to Torrington. Tell the captain of
that torch to watch for a blue 182 or an Arrow on climbout. If you've got a
handheld radio I'll give you a call going over if you haven't boarded yet.


Jim


> We're flying (It's a Frontier jet *called* Casino Express) to Elko, NV
> tomorrow. $88 per person - RT flight, 3 nights hotel ...includes
> EVERYTHING, except food. Visa was charged $176 for two of us - that's it.
> Price even covers the ride to and from the airport :-)

[Jack Allison]

Jay Honeck wrote:
> Yeah, that was an amazing year, 1988. We had just bought our first house,
> the summer before, and knew that we'd have to paint it the following year.
Typical summer in the CA central valley...*maybe* one shower in August.
Never mind the week long 100 degree plus days (that we're in right
now)...it's a dry heat! Ya, right. Toasty unless you're doing air work
over a lake where the OAT was a comfy 69 degrees a couple weeks back.

> Now if only it cools down a tad before OSH, it really WILL have been a
> perfect summer!
If it's any easier to turn down the humidity-o-meter, request that Jay!
Heck, 85-90 degrees would be a nice change for me right now. :-)

--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-IA Student
Arrow N2104T

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

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[john smith]

WOW!!!
No haze, no clouds.

[Jack Allison]

Ya Paul, you warn that executive mail tube driver that a couple low
level slow movers are in the area or you could hear something like this
on frequency: "Blue lead, Arrow-1, good missile tone on the MD-80,
engaging...".

Paul...Elko? Man, one more state left and you'd be in the promised land
of CA! I know you're just trying to weasel a ride in the Arrow and if
it wasn't stuffed full of camping gear...well, you know the rest.

RST Engineering wrote:




--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-IA Student
Arrow N2104T

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

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[W P Dixon]

I can't complain to much , alot of rain and that has kept our temps way down
for this time of year. But I have to cut the grass every four days or it
gets knee high to a giraffe! ;)

Patrick

"Jim Burns" > wrote in message
...
>
> "W P Dixon"
>> WOW!,
>> Only 80 degrees and your grass is brown?
>
> It's not the 80 degrees that turned the grass brown, it's the 90's, the
> wind, and the lack of rain that we've had for the past 2 weeks. But all
> is
> not lost, the weeds have loved it, they're growing, well....like weeds!!
> We've got lambsquarter that is 4 and 5 feet tall and all budded out, and
> the
> ragweed is coming on strong. My eyes can hardly wait.
>
> Jim
>
>

[Jim Burns]

"W P Dixon"
> WOW!,
> Only 80 degrees and your grass is brown?

It's not the 80 degrees that turned the grass brown, it's the 90's, the
wind, and the lack of rain that we've had for the past 2 weeks. But all is
not lost, the weeds have loved it, they're growing, well....like weeds!!
We've got lambsquarter that is 4 and 5 feet tall and all budded out, and the
ragweed is coming on strong. My eyes can hardly wait.

Jim

[Jim Burns]

I kid you not... I mowed our lawn once in June and have not cut it yet in
July. The only reason I cut it in June was because the weeds had headed out
and were much taller than the grass.
Jim

[Montblack]

("RST Engineering" wrote)
> What hotel do they stuff you into in Elko? BTW, that means you are coming
> home Friday, and Jack Allison and I will be coming directly over Elko
> International Friday about 9 on our way to Torrington. Tell the captain
> of that torch to watch for a blue 182 or an Arrow on climbout. If you've
> got a handheld radio I'll give you a call going over if you haven't
> boarded yet.


Best Western Gold Country Motor Inn - Elko, Nevada (I think). It might be
the Red Lion Inn & Casino across the street. It's either/or with this
outfit. Looks to be east of town 1 mile, on Idaho St.

Scheduled to depart Elko with my winnings at 8 am Friday :-)

We only get two full days (Wed and Thur) in Elko..../Idaho/Utah <g>

I'll be bringing my 12 year old Rat Shack Pro 51 Hyper-Scan 200 channel
scanner ...set to what?


Montblack

[RST Engineering]

122.75 this side of the Rockies. We'll switch to 123.3 if it isn't too
populated from Nebraska eastward.

Jim


> I'll be bringing my 12 year old Rat Shack Pro 51 Hyper-Scan 200 channel
> scanner ...set to what?
>
>
> Montblack

[Jay Honeck]

>I kid you not... I mowed our lawn once in June and have not cut it yet in
> July. The only reason I cut it in June was because the weeds had headed
> out
> and were much taller than the grass.

My son has been thrilled to not have to mow the lawn at home. He, too, has
only mowed a couple of times since the drought got started in late June.

Unfortunately we've got a very nice underground sprinkler system at the inn,
and I therefore still must mow *that* lawn weekly. The areas that are not
hit with the sprinklers are completely, 100% dead, to the point where when I
go over them with the mower a big cloud of dust and dirt goes flying...

We're starting to get some good sweet corn here, though, so apparently all
is not lost -- yet.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

> WOW!!!
> No haze, no clouds.

Actually, it was pretty hazy -- but Photoshop takes that right out,
somehow...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[George Patterson]

Jay Honeck wrote:
>
> Unfortunately we've got a very nice underground sprinkler system at the inn,
> and I therefore still must mow *that* lawn weekly.

Doesn't it have an "off" control?

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.

[Newps]

Jay Honeck wrote:

>
> Farmers will hate me for saying it, but that year -- and this year -- are as
> close to "perfect" summers as I've seen. VFR every day, sunny and warm.
> THAT is summer, gentlemen!

That is every day all summer long in Montana. Every year. And you
willingly live there in the midwest.

[Jay Honeck]

>> Unfortunately we've got a very nice underground sprinkler system at the
>> inn, and I therefore still must mow *that* lawn weekly.
>
> Doesn't it have an "off" control?

Well. sure -- but for some silly reason, people expect nice landscaping at a
hotel...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Matt Barrow]

"George Patterson" > wrote in message
news:s%7De.4995$Zx3.1500@trndny05...
> Jay Honeck wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately we've got a very nice underground sprinkler system at the
inn,
> > and I therefore still must mow *that* lawn weekly.
>
> Doesn't it have an "off" control?

Mary's in charge of that button.

[vincent p. norris]

> The areas that are not hit with the sprinklers are completely, 100% dead...

Im not a turf grass scientist, Jay, but I've been assured that grass
does not die when it gets dry; it just goes dormant and will green up
when rain arrives.

As an aside, I have not watered my lawn for at least 20 years, or
fertilized it, either. It has NEVER in my memory turned brown during
that period, and we've had our droughts in central PA, too. In fact,
we're having one now. Farmers are in serious trouble.

And yet I have to mow it every damn week. I mow it high, 3", and
leave the clippings.

If you regularly water your lawn, especially not deeply enough, it
becomes "hooked" on that watering. Roots seek that shallow water.

If you don't water it, the grass "learns" to send its roots deep,
where there is some moisture even during droughts.

vince norris

[john smith]

vincent p. norris wrote:
> As an aside, I have not watered my lawn for at least 20 years, or
> fertilized it, either. It has NEVER in my memory turned brown during
> that period, and we've had our droughts in central PA, too. In fact,
> we're having one now. Farmers are in serious trouble.
> And yet I have to mow it every damn week. I mow it high, 3", and
> leave the clippings.

Psst... that's not grass, it's all weeds!

[Dave Butler]

vincent p. norris wrote:
>> The areas that are not hit with the sprinklers are completely, 100% dead...
>
>
> Im not a turf grass scientist, Jay, but I've been assured that grass
> does not die when it gets dry; it just goes dormant and will green up
> when rain arrives.
>
> As an aside, I have not watered my lawn for at least 20 years, or
> fertilized it, either. It has NEVER in my memory turned brown during
> that period, and we've had our droughts in central PA, too. In fact,
> we're having one now. Farmers are in serious trouble.
>
> And yet I have to mow it every damn week. I mow it high, 3", and
> leave the clippings.
>
> If you regularly water your lawn, especially not deeply enough, it
> becomes "hooked" on that watering. Roots seek that shallow water.
>
> If you don't water it, the grass "learns" to send its roots deep,
> where there is some moisture even during droughts.

That might work in PA. In NC, your fescue grass is going to turn brown in the
summer unless you have deep pockets for your water bill. Most people just let it
go dormant in the summer. Zoysia and its cousins are green in the summer, brown
in the winter. Take your pick. I'm not a turf grass scientist, either.

Dave

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[vincent p. norris]

>> As an aside, I have not watered my lawn for at least 20 years, or
>> fertilized it, either. It has NEVER in my memory turned brown during
>> that period, and we've had our droughts in central PA, too. In fact,
>> we're having one now. Farmers are in serious trouble.
>> And yet I have to mow it every damn week. I mow it high, 3", and
>> leave the clippings.
>
>Psst... that's not grass, it's all weeds!

I have news for you, John: One of the best ways to prevent weeds to
to mow your lawn at 3". Read a book on lawn care.

vince norris

[vincent p. norris]

>That might work in PA. In NC, your fescue grass is going to turn brown in the
>summer unless you have deep pockets for your water bill. Most people just let it
>go dormant in the summer.

If you live in NC, I'm sure you know it better than I do. I know that
it gets a lot hotter there. We don't even reach 90 most summers.

But you're agreeing with my comment to Jay that his grass isn't dead,
it's just dormant.

>Zoysia and its cousins are green in the summer, brown
>in the winter. Take your pick.

But are fescue and zoysia your only choices? What about Kentucky
bluegrass?

vince norris

[Morgans]

"> But are fescue and zoysia your only choices? What about Kentucky
> bluegrass?
>
> vince norris

Just another fescue variety.
--
Jim in NC