RAP & RAH Oshkosh field frequency

[RST Engineering]

I think we could coexist with Vette on 123.3 with handhelds on the field
during Oshkosh, but I just did a fairly detailed search for 123.5 and found
no takers within twenty miles.

THEREFORE, let's make that rah/rap on field coordination frequency 123.5 and
don't give your kids the transceiver to play with.

I'm also going to use it for the Kitplanes airborne coordination cover page
photo shoots this year. No reason to cob up Vette when there is another
frequency available.

Jim

[Bob Chilcoat]

123.5 it is. See you guys next week. I can't wait. First Oshkosh.

--
Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)


"RST Engineering" > wrote in message
...
>I think we could coexist with Vette on 123.3 with handhelds on the field
>during Oshkosh, but I just did a fairly detailed search for 123.5 and found
>no takers within twenty miles.
>
> THEREFORE, let's make that rah/rap on field coordination frequency 123.5
> and don't give your kids the transceiver to play with.
>
> I'm also going to use it for the Kitplanes airborne coordination cover
> page photo shoots this year. No reason to cob up Vette when there is
> another frequency available.
>
> Jim
>

[Aaron Coolidge]

In rec.aviation.owning RST Engineering > wrote:
: THEREFORE, let's make that rah/rap on field coordination frequency 123.5 and
: don't give your kids the transceiver to play with.

OK! Just so the old STS handheld holds up....

: I'm also going to use it for the Kitplanes airborne coordination cover page
: photo shoots this year. No reason to cob up Vette when there is another
: frequency available.

Do you do the photo shoots out of your 182? Or do you borrow the EAA 210?
(Aside) 2 years ago I saw a Seneca-load of folks shooting pics of Sean Tucker
afther the airshow. Tucker was doing steep bank turns over Aeroshell Sq.
while a mess of people were hanging out of the back doors of the Seneca
snapping pics. It looked like the job to have!
--
Aaron C.

[HamGuy]

Finnally decided to quit reading about Oshkosh and want to expereince
it myself. What is the most important thing to expereince?

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, "HamGuy" > said:
>Finnally decided to quit reading about Oshkosh and want to expereince
>it myself. What is the most important thing to expereince?

The credit card bills afterwards. Oh wait, that's not the most important,
that's the most shocking.

To me the best part of the week was shutting down my engine and looking
out at the thousands of planes parked around me, and saying "I'm finally
here!"


--
Paul Tomblin > http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
"I'm fairly sure Linux exists principally because writing an operating system
probably seems like a good way to pass the <bignum> months of darkness in
Finland" - Rodger Donaldson

[Dave Butler]

HamGuy wrote:
>
> Finnally decided to quit reading about Oshkosh and want to expereince
> it myself. What is the most important thing to expereince?
>

Oh, man.

Just walk in the main gate and start walking toward the flight line. You'll
quickly find whatever it is that you want to experience, then after you leave
that experience, you'll find the next thing ... and so on, ad infinitum.

Don't miss Aeroshell Square, the vendor booths in hangars A, B, C, and D, the
warbird area, the ultralights, the seaplane base, check out the forum schedule
so you don't miss your favorite topics, look at the airshow performers'
schedules and make sure you don't miss your favorites...

You're in for a treat. I've been going since 1995. Missed 1996, but every year
since. Last year my wife went with me for the first time and it was a treat
seeing the show through her eyes. I had become a little jaded about some of the
things and seeing her amazement made me appreciate them anew.

Dave

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[Margy]

HamGuy wrote:
>
> Finnally decided to quit reading about Oshkosh and want to expereince
> it myself. What is the most important thing to expereince?
>

It really depends on your personal interests. Since you posted to
homebuilt I'll guess you will want to spend some time up there talking
to builders and looking at their baby books. I hang out down in
Vintage. The ultralights are always fun (sign up for a 6am
manufacturers sale flight in a powered parachute!). The seaplane base
is a great escape (although I haven't made it there in years). The main
show is of course great... I hope you plan to spend the entire week :-)

Margy

[Corky Scott]

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:06:25 +0000 (UTC),
(Paul Tomblin) wrote:

>In a previous article, "HamGuy" > said:
>>Finnally decided to quit reading about Oshkosh and want to expereince
>>it myself. What is the most important thing to expereince?
>
>The credit card bills afterwards. Oh wait, that's not the most important,
>that's the most shocking.
>
>To me the best part of the week was shutting down my engine and looking
>out at the thousands of planes parked around me, and saying "I'm finally
>here!"

I've only been once, flew in with the Waco group in '95. Now that I
know what it's like, I'm not really inclined to visit again until I
finish my airplane and have something to talk about while I'm there.

I remember how we slotted in behind everyone after turning right over
Ripon and a few minutes later being able to literally see the landing
pattern, right to the end of the runway because it was clearly defined
by the 20 or 30 airplanes in front of us tracing the line from the
extended downwind, through base and to final.

Things got very busy as we approached on final, with airplanes taking
the runway in front of us and launching right up to short final,
including what appeared to be a T-28. At that point, an Albatross
took the runway and we had to add power and lift up over him, then
settle in front. We pulled off onto the right side of the runway on
the grass and seconds later the Albatross thundered by behind us.

A guy on a scooter showed up on our left wing and guided us to the
Theater in the Woods where the other Wacos were parking or had parked.

We had to pass through the crowd to get to it, there were many
thousands it seemed, lined up along the flight line watching the many
landing aircraft.

Quite the thrill to be a part of something so big, even if you weren't
really a part, just coming in to enjoy it.

Corky Scott

[Jack Allison]

Paul Tomblin wrote:
> To me the best part of the week was shutting down my engine and looking
> out at the thousands of planes parked around me, and saying "I'm finally
> here!"

For me, that's a close second to hearing the tower controller's "Good
job, welcome to Oshkosh" when you put it on the appropriate dot/numbers.

--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-IA Student
Arrow N2104T

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

(Remove the obvious from address to reply via e-mail)

[john smith]

Jack Allison wrote:
> For me, that's a close second to hearing the tower controller's "Good
> job, welcome to Oshkosh" when you put it on the appropriate dot/numbers.

NOTE: Short final, keep your hand cocked on the throttle, ready to push
it up smoothly and quickly. (power, pitch, flaps, gear)
Depending upon what and who you may be following, if they decide to land
on what is beneath them instead of where they have been directed ahead
of them, you must be ready to go around.
Decision time is not, "Oh, look at that! He/she just landed where I was
told to."
It is a mile back, when you are watching the aircraft ahead of you and
observing how well they maintain airspeed and separation.
If you are catching up to them, and you are still two or three airplanes
from the threshold, your decision is already made.
Your Arrow will not slow down with the 172's and stay in the air.
Push it up, initiate a climb, sidestep to the right while cleaning up so
you can keep an eye on things ahead and beneath you, then break into a
climbing turn to join an appropriate downwind. Watch for traffic and
maintain any separation.
You are a low wing aircraft so you will want to fly/cross under any
traffic on your climbout so you can maintain visual contact. Kick it out
wide for separation. Tower will see what has happened and sequence you
back into the flow.
Do not hesitate to go around. You do not need to say anything on the
radio unless asked. Just follow Tower's instructions.

[HamGuy]

Thanks for all the replies. I Plan on Spending Wendesday thru Sunday
there camping out. Hope to see many of you there>

HAMGUY

[Newps]

Or the controller laughing in the background. There's at least two
aircraft that won't get to OSH. One was a Piper Clipper. This genius
ran out of gas and landed about 15 SW of here yesterday. Perfect
landing but after putting in a few gallons so he could get to the real
airport but lost control on takeoff, bending the gear up pretty good.
Today a Mooney requested an intersection departure right where two
runways intersect. When cleared for takeoff he took the wrong runway,
the one with 1100 feet remaining. It was 96 degrees. Slammed on the
brakes and blew a tire. So after he fixes the tire he'll have to deal
with FSDO on his runway incursion. Let the moron parade continue.




Jack Allison wrote:
> Paul Tomblin wrote:
>
>> To me the best part of the week was shutting down my engine and looking
>> out at the thousands of planes parked around me, and saying "I'm finally
>> here!"
>
>
> For me, that's a close second to hearing the tower controller's "Good
> job, welcome to Oshkosh" when you put it on the appropriate dot/numbers.
>

[Jay Honeck]

> What is the most important thing to expereince?

Geez, you guys missed the obvious: It's the rec.aviation party on Wednesday
night!

;-)

Hamguy, just look up our "N" number (by going to the North 40 airplane
camping check-in booth, and giving them my "N" number or last name) and come
on out to meet a bunch of us on Wednesday night after the airshow. We'll
have food, drink, and plenty of hangar lying, er, flying...

Last year we had about 40 rec.aviation nuts stop in...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Bill Daniels]

Morons indeed. I had a canard pusher zip between the glider I was flying
and the tow plane 200 feet ahead near Boulder, CO this morning. It wasn't
an aircraft I recognized so I assume it was headed for OSH. I didn't get
the "N" number so he won't hear about it.

Bill Daniels


"Newps" > wrote in message
...
> Or the controller laughing in the background. There's at least two
> aircraft that won't get to OSH. One was a Piper Clipper. This genius
> ran out of gas and landed about 15 SW of here yesterday. Perfect
> landing but after putting in a few gallons so he could get to the real
> airport but lost control on takeoff, bending the gear up pretty good.
> Today a Mooney requested an intersection departure right where two
> runways intersect. When cleared for takeoff he took the wrong runway,
> the one with 1100 feet remaining. It was 96 degrees. Slammed on the
> brakes and blew a tire. So after he fixes the tire he'll have to deal
> with FSDO on his runway incursion. Let the moron parade continue.
>
>
>
>
> Jack Allison wrote:
> > Paul Tomblin wrote:
> >
> >> To me the best part of the week was shutting down my engine and looking
> >> out at the thousands of planes parked around me, and saying "I'm
finally
> >> here!"
> >
> >
> > For me, that's a close second to hearing the tower controller's "Good
> > job, welcome to Oshkosh" when you put it on the appropriate dot/numbers.
> >

[Michael 182]

"Bill Daniels" > wrote in message
...
> Morons indeed. I had a canard pusher zip between the glider I was flying
> and the tow plane 200 feet ahead near Boulder, CO this morning. It wasn't
> an aircraft I recognized so I assume it was headed for OSH. I didn't get
> the "N" number so he won't hear about it.
>

It hit 105 in Boulder today. It must take forever for the tow plane to get
you up. How is it flying a glider in this weather? Better or worse than cold
for finding lift - or is overall temp not an issue?

Michael

[Bill Daniels]

"Michael 182" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Bill Daniels" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Morons indeed. I had a canard pusher zip between the glider I was
flying
> > and the tow plane 200 feet ahead near Boulder, CO this morning. It
wasn't
> > an aircraft I recognized so I assume it was headed for OSH. I didn't
get
> > the "N" number so he won't hear about it.
> >
>
> It hit 105 in Boulder today. It must take forever for the tow plane to get
> you up. How is it flying a glider in this weather? Better or worse than
cold
> for finding lift - or is overall temp not an issue?
>
> Michael
>
Today was booming 1000FPM thermals to above 18,000'. (I stopped climbing at
17,999) I was crying that I had to fly rides instead of rigging my Nimbus
and trying for a 1000Km out and back.

The old Pawnees struggle pretty hard but they can tow a 2-32 with three
people in it to at least 10,500'.

For good thermals, we just need a steep temperature lapse rate and a
relatively dry atmosphere to avoid thunderstorms and today we got it. The
thunderbumpers held off until after 6PM today. Hot and dry weather is
usually good.

We've had a long string of 600 mile + cross countries in gliders this year.
A couple of guys flew from just south of Denver to Moriarty east of
Albuquerque and returned to land at their home airport. No bad for running
on empty.

If you want to see some GPS flight logs look at:
http://www2.onlinecontest.org/olcphp/2005/ausw_wertung.php?olc=olc-usa&spr=en

Select earlier dates for earlier flights.

Bill Daniels

[Blanche]

Michael 182 > wrote:
>
>"Bill Daniels" > wrote in message
>> Morons indeed. I had a canard pusher zip between the glider I was flying
>> and the tow plane 200 feet ahead near Boulder, CO this morning. It wasn't
>> an aircraft I recognized so I assume it was headed for OSH. I didn't get
>> the "N" number so he won't hear about it.
>>
>
>It hit 105 in Boulder today. It must take forever for the tow plane to get
>you up. How is it flying a glider in this weather? Better or worse than cold
>for finding lift - or is overall temp not an issue?

Dunno about the gliders, but I'm leaving at 6 am on Sat. for Iowa
City from Front Range (about 50 sm from Boulder) to try and avoid
the heat at altitude. Around here, my 180 hp engine is pushing
maybe 103 hp.

[Jim K]

Newps > wrote:

>Or the controller laughing in the background.

Those idiot controllers would do better to stop laughing and start
concentrating on their job. I've witnessed far too many controller
****-ups at OSH. Best to lose the party atmosphere at Fisk, on the
moocows, and in the tower and start doing their job.

[Newps]

Jim K wrote:
> Newps > wrote:
>
>
>>Or the controller laughing in the background.
>
>
> Those idiot controllers would do better to stop laughing and start
> concentrating on their job. I've witnessed far too many controller
> ****-ups at OSH. Best to lose the party atmosphere at Fisk, on the
> moocows, and in the tower and start doing their job.

With 50,000 EAA types you're lucky it isn't raining aluminum and tube
and fabric.

[HamGuy]

Thanks Jay, Have wanted to meet you guys since reading about your hotel
last year. Take Care!

[Jay Honeck]

>>Or the controller laughing in the background.
>
> Those idiot controllers would do better to stop laughing and start
> concentrating on their job. I've witnessed far too many controller
> ****-ups at OSH. Best to lose the party atmosphere at Fisk, on the
> moocows, and in the tower and start doing their job.

Really? I've been there for 23 years, and I've only seen ONE (count 'em,
one) controller f*ck up -- and that was an error of omission (not clearing a
guy to land when he was on short-final) rather than one of commission.

Given the thousands of operations I've witnessed, that's pretty amazing.

Which isn't to say I haven't witnessed dozens of screw ups -- but they've
all (with that one exception) been pilot errors.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"