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Jose
July 25th 05, 05:35 PM
There have been several sites which offered free digital sectionals (at
least a peek a little bit at a time). I'm interested in peeking at the
Seattle and Portland areas for an upcoming flight, but can't find any of
these sites any more.

Anybody know of any that are still up?

Jose
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Gig 601XL Builder
July 25th 05, 05:41 PM
"Jose" > wrote in message
. ..
> There have been several sites which offered free digital sectionals (at
> least a peek a little bit at a time). I'm interested in peeking at the
> Seattle and Portland areas for an upcoming flight, but can't find any of
> these sites any more.
>
> Anybody know of any that are still up?

http://www.myairplane.com/

Toks Desalu
July 25th 05, 05:43 PM
Try: aviationtoolbox.org

Toks Desalu
PP-ASEL
Dyin' to soar

"Jose" > wrote in message
. ..
> There have been several sites which offered free digital sectionals (at
> least a peek a little bit at a time). I'm interested in peeking at the
> Seattle and Portland areas for an upcoming flight, but can't find any of
> these sites any more.
>
> Anybody know of any that are still up?
>
> Jose
> --
> Nothing takes longer than a shortcut.
> for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

Darrel Toepfer
July 25th 05, 09:36 PM
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

> http://www.myairplane.com

Doesn't work at all with Netscape, doesn't work very well with Internet
Explorer (Pan won't pan - just keeps redrawing the screen like its stuck
between the north/south map, zoom geauxs whereever the hell it wants to)...

Nice idea though...

Jose
July 25th 05, 09:39 PM
>> http://www.myairplane.com
>
>
> Doesn't work at all with Netscape, doesn't work very well with Internet Explorer (Pan won't pan - just keeps redrawing the screen like its stuck between the north/south map, zoom geauxs whereever the hell it wants to)...

Doesn't work with Netscape 7.2 (which is what I have) but it works with
IE 6. Pan works too, it's just a little different. Click somewhere in
the map to re-center on that point.

> Try: aviationtoolbox.org

That gives me a directory of stuff but you have to know what it is
first. What should I be looking for?

Thanks for the info all.

Jose
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Darrel Toepfer
July 25th 05, 09:49 PM
Jose wrote:

> Doesn't work with Netscape 7.2 (which is what I have) but it works with
> IE 6. Pan works too, it's just a little different. Click somewhere in
> the map to re-center on that point.

Doesn't work, gave up... Just could be the Houston sectional but I doubt
it...

> That gives me a directory of stuff but you have to know what it is
> first. What should I be looking for?

http://aviationtoolbox.org/raw_data/FAA/sectionals/current

This is supplied by Kyler Laird for the past couple of years...

Thanks Kyler...

Allen
July 25th 05, 10:00 PM
"Darrel Toepfer" > wrote in message
...
> Jose wrote:
>
>> Doesn't work with Netscape 7.2 (which is what I have) but it works with
>> IE 6. Pan works too, it's just a little different. Click somewhere in
>> the map to re-center on that point.
>
> Doesn't work, gave up... Just could be the Houston sectional but I doubt
> it...
>
>> That gives me a directory of stuff but you have to know what it is first.
>> What should I be looking for?
>
> http://aviationtoolbox.org/raw_data/FAA/sectionals/current
>
> This is supplied by Kyler Laird for the past couple of years...
>
> Thanks Kyler...

Thanks Kyler!

The sectionals themselves are .tiff files and average 46 megs each so be
patient.

Allen

Gary Drescher
July 25th 05, 10:13 PM
"Darrel Toepfer" > wrote in message
...
> Jose wrote:
>
>> Doesn't work with Netscape 7.2 (which is what I have) but it works with
>> IE 6. Pan works too, it's just a little different. Click somewhere in
>> the map to re-center on that point.
>
> Doesn't work, gave up... Just could be the Houston sectional but I doubt
> it...

Hm, I just tried the Houston sectional at myairplane.com (using IE6).
Zooming in and out, and panning, all worked fine.

--Gary

Jose
July 25th 05, 10:23 PM
> http://aviationtoolbox.org/raw_data/FAA/sectionals/current
>
> This is supplied by Kyler Laird for the past couple of years...

Very cool. Thanks Kyler (and Darrel and Toks)

Jose
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three-eight-hotel
July 25th 05, 10:49 PM
Forgive me if this gets double-posted (wasn't logged in the first
time)...

These are nice and I just wanted to add a "thanks!"

I often want to take a look at a current sectional to see what I may be
"in for", on a particular flight. I may do this weeks or months before
I actually make the flight. I will purchase new charts, when
necessary, before a flight, but it's nice having a resource where you
don't have to purchase a trip-tik just to do some pre-preflight
planning!

I have just added "aviationtoolbox.org" to "My Favorites"!

Any other cool sites that you guys recommend?

Best Regards!

Darrel Toepfer
July 25th 05, 10:54 PM
Gary Drescher wrote:

> Hm, I just tried the Houston sectional at myairplane.com (using IE6).
> Zooming in and out, and panning, all worked fine.

Try to go south to Lafayette or Lake Charles. It always stopped on me in
the MOA's to the north...

Darrel Toepfer
July 25th 05, 11:01 PM
three-eight-hotel wrote:

> Forgive me if this gets double-posted (wasn't logged in the first
> time)...
>
> These are nice and I just wanted to add a "thanks!"
>
> I often want to take a look at a current sectional to see what I may be
> "in for", on a particular flight. I may do this weeks or months before
> I actually make the flight. I will purchase new charts, when
> necessary, before a flight, but it's nice having a resource where you
> don't have to purchase a trip-tik just to do some pre-preflight
> planning!
>
> I have just added "aviationtoolbox.org" to "My Favorites"!
>
> Any other cool sites that you guys recommend?

Kyler has several tools inside the website that merge sectionals, zoom
sectionals, link multiple sectionals into a strip for your flightplan.
Might need to Google for the links, I never saved them all or learned
all the necessary commands... Its done through secure HTTP though...

He's also built his own moving map that uses those sectionals, I don't
think its available yet for public consumption though...

Oziexplorer allows you to import the GeoTiff's, never played with that
either... http://www.oziexplorer.com

Gary Drescher
July 25th 05, 11:05 PM
"Darrel Toepfer" > wrote in message
...
> Gary Drescher wrote:
>
>> Hm, I just tried the Houston sectional at myairplane.com (using IE6).
>> Zooming in and out, and panning, all worked fine.
>
> Try to go south to Lafayette or Lake Charles. It always stopped on me in
> the MOA's to the north...

Nope, I have no trouble panning there, or all the way to the bottom of the
chart. Must be a problem with your local setup.

--Gary

Darrel Toepfer
July 26th 05, 12:08 AM
Gary Drescher wrote:

> Nope, I have no trouble panning there, or all the way to the bottom of the
> chart. Must be a problem with your local setup.

Tried it on another machine that has all the current M$ updates, the pan
is very slow and doesn't center on where you are clicking, neither does
the zoom... Still doesn't work with Netscape though... Thanks for
getting me to try again...

City Dweller
July 26th 05, 03:42 AM
I found these, they are in JPEG format and thus much smaller than TIFFs and
can be viewed in a browser too.

http://forums.x-plane.org/lofiversion/index.php/t12058.html

-- CD


"Jose" > wrote in message
. ..
> There have been several sites which offered free digital sectionals (at
> least a peek a little bit at a time). I'm interested in peeking at the
> Seattle and Portland areas for an upcoming flight, but can't find any of
> these sites any more.
>
> Anybody know of any that are still up?
>
> Jose
> --
> Nothing takes longer than a shortcut.
> for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

John Clonts
July 26th 05, 04:34 AM
"Darrel Toepfer" > wrote in message ...
> Gary Drescher wrote:
>
>> Nope, I have no trouble panning there, or all the way to the bottom of the chart. Must be a problem with
>> your local setup.
>
> Tried it on another machine that has all the current M$ updates, the pan is very slow and doesn't center on
> where you are clicking, neither does the zoom... Still doesn't work with Netscape though... Thanks for
> getting me to try again...

I have had the same problems in the past, using IE6. Through experimentation I discovered that it pans or
centers to a point exactly YYY pixels north of where I clicked, where YYY corresponded to the vertical space
occupied by the buttons and location bar in the browser. In my case I think it was about 200 pixels, but by
turning off the buttons, location, and any other toolbars, I find that I could pan or center to more southerly
locations.

But mostly I just gave up using it. Myairplane never replied to my questions or comments. And of course
Dennis is probably in Oshkosh this week :) I did buy a CD for $25 that has all the sectionals, enroutes,
terminal VFR charts, etc.

Also, Kyler's stuff, though large downloads, are already georeferenced so they are convenient to use with
OziExplorer, etc.

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Cheers,
John Clonts
Temple, Texas
N7NZ

Jackal24
July 26th 05, 08:38 AM
www.avsim.com usually has any sectional I want. This site is for
flightsimmers, but I was able to find, for example, a 42Meg zip file of all
the Alaska sectionals.

Jay Beckman
July 26th 05, 09:05 AM
"Jackal24" > wrote in message
...
> www.avsim.com usually has any sectional I want. This site is for
> flightsimmers, but I was able to find, for example, a 42Meg zip file of
> all
> the Alaska sectionals.

Are they current?

pnw_aviator
July 26th 05, 09:44 AM
If the file upload dates are of any indication, the answer would
probably be no.

Kyler Laird
July 26th 05, 04:17 PM
Jose > writes:

>> Try: aviationtoolbox.org

>That gives me a directory of stuff but you have to know what it is
>first. What should I be looking for?

https://aviationtoolbox.org/members/kyler/tools/map_explorer

(I had to look it up too. This is just a demo I whipped up long ago.)

--kyler

Kyler Laird
July 26th 05, 04:17 PM
"Allen" > writes:

>The sectionals themselves are .tiff files and average 46 megs each so be
>patient.

And use rsync with compression.

--kyler

Jackal24
July 26th 05, 07:29 PM
"pnw_aviator" > wrote in news:1122367451.486585.115010
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> If the file upload dates are of any indication, the answer would
> probably be no.
>
>

No, they usually aren't. However, I am not going to use any downloaded ones
for actual flying anyway. For an overview of an area, they are great.

Darrel Toepfer
July 26th 05, 07:37 PM
Jackal24 wrote:

>>If the file upload dates are of any indication, the answer would
>>probably be no.
>
> No, they usually aren't. However, I am not going to use any downloaded ones
> for actual flying anyway. For an overview of an area, they are great.

A check of the dates on Kyler's website shows that some charts dont' get
updated very often...

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