I need materials to make helium balloons.

[John Doe]

Hi,
Where can I buy materials, online or at some nationwide USA store,
to make helium balloons?
I guess that would be a can of helium and some balloons?
I just want to make a few now, and then a few at regular intervals
indefinitely.
I really appreciate any help.

[Ron Natalie]

John Doe wrote:
> Hi,
> Where can I buy materials, online or at some nationwide USA store,
> to make helium balloons?
> I guess that would be a can of helium and some balloons?
> I just want to make a few now, and then a few at regular intervals
> indefinitely.
> I really appreciate any help.
>
>
Just about any gas supply (welding, oxygen, etc...) supply store
will sell you tanks of helium. Tell them you want a balloon
regulator on it. As for the balloons, most party stores can
get you smaller ones. If you want like weather balloons, you
can order them on line.

www.ballonsdirect.com shows up from a quick google.

[John Galban]

John Doe > wrote in message >...
> Hi,
> Where can I buy materials, online or at some nationwide USA store,
> to make helium balloons?
> I guess that would be a can of helium and some balloons?
> I just want to make a few now, and then a few at regular intervals
> indefinitely.

Interesting post for RAH. Are we seeing the birth of the next
lawnchair aviator? :-)))

John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

[John Doe]

(John Galban) wrote:
>John Doe > wrote in message news:

>> Where can I buy materials, online or at some nationwide USA store,
>> to make helium balloons?
>> I guess that would be a can of helium and some balloons?
>> I just want to make a few now, and then a few at regular intervals
>> indefinitely.
>
> Interesting post for RAH. Are we seeing the birth of the next
>lawnchair aviator?

I read that. Interesting story.

From what I could tell, the appropriate Usenet group was too small to
expect any replies from. I think this worked out pretty well. I read
and appreciate every one of the replies.

For starters. I bought a "balloon time" 30 balloon helium filled tank
this morning. The balloons are too cheap and small. I need either
another balloon material or that "hi-fly" liquid plastic stuff to
coat ordinary balloons.

I already asked about that in my next post, even though I might have
asked incorrectly.

If my cats are continuously fascinated by a string attached to a
balloon stopped by (resting against) the ceiling, I will take up the
suggestions about getting a refillable helium tank. Thanks.







:-)))
>
>John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)
>

[Ron Wanttaja]

On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 01:33:24 GMT, John Doe >
wrote:

>If my cats are continuously fascinated by a string attached to a
>balloon stopped by (resting against) the ceiling, I will take up the
>suggestions about getting a refillable helium tank. Thanks.

Depends on the cats, I think. Two of my wife's are absolutely terrified of
balloons. Or course, that could be due to one of them getting a balloon string
tied to its tail, one evening....

It has a nice side-effect. Whenever we don't want cats in a particular area, we
put up a line of Barrage balloons across the doorways. :-)

Ron "Go fluffy go" Wanttaja

[Bob Chilcoat]

You should be aware that "balloon gas", which is what is sold in those
disposable containers, is a mixture of helium and nitrogen or helium and
air. This makes it cheaper and lowers the partial pressure of helium, which
reduces the rate of diffusion through the rubber (or other polymer). The
balloons stay inflated longer. OTOH, they have significantly less buoyancy.
If you want maximum buoyancy, you need nearly pure helium. Any industrial
gas supplier (BOC Gases, Air Products, Liquid Air (Air Liquide), Linde,
etc.) can supply what you want, in a variety of different sized cylinders,
including the large tube trailers they use for the Macy's parade balloons.

--
Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)

I don't have to like Bush and Cheney (Or Kerry, for that matter) to love
America

"John Doe" > wrote in message
...
> (John Galban) wrote:
> >John Doe > wrote in message news:
>
> >> Where can I buy materials, online or at some nationwide USA store,
> >> to make helium balloons?
> >> I guess that would be a can of helium and some balloons?
> >> I just want to make a few now, and then a few at regular intervals
> >> indefinitely.
> >
> > Interesting post for RAH. Are we seeing the birth of the next
> >lawnchair aviator?
>
> I read that. Interesting story.
>
> From what I could tell, the appropriate Usenet group was too small to
> expect any replies from. I think this worked out pretty well. I read
> and appreciate every one of the replies.
>
> For starters. I bought a "balloon time" 30 balloon helium filled tank
> this morning. The balloons are too cheap and small. I need either
> another balloon material or that "hi-fly" liquid plastic stuff to
> coat ordinary balloons.
>
> I already asked about that in my next post, even though I might have
> asked incorrectly.
>
> If my cats are continuously fascinated by a string attached to a
> balloon stopped by (resting against) the ceiling, I will take up the
> suggestions about getting a refillable helium tank. Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> :-)))
> >
> >John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)
> >
>

[John Doe]

(Off topic)

Ron Wanttaja > wrote:

>Depends on the cats, I think. Two of my wife's are absolutely
>terrified of balloons. Or course, that could be due to one of them
>getting a balloon string tied to its tail, one evening....
>It has a nice side-effect. Whenever we don't want cats in a
>particular area, we put up a line of Barrage balloons across the
>doorways. :-)

Used responsibly like an adult who cares, packaging tape placed
upside down is an excellent area deterrent (I use high-quality tape
which might be thicker and easier to handle). They avoid it like the
plague after two or three encounters. And if you are around, you get
to play hero by removing the tape while saying "Poor kitty, let me
help remove that awful thing." It is exceptionally effective used
only when necessary, for things that otherwise cause significant
friction between you and them. It does not make a good toy, it makes
a real serious impression. Take care.






>
>Ron "Go fluffy go" Wanttaja

[Michael Pilla]

"John Doe" > wrote in message
...
(Off topic)

Ron Wanttaja > wrote:

>Depends on the cats, I think. Two of my wife's are absolutely
>terrified of balloons. Or course, that could be due to one of them
>getting a balloon string tied to its tail, one evening....
>It has a nice side-effect. Whenever we don't want cats in a
>particular area, we put up a line of Barrage balloons across the
>doorways. :-)

Used responsibly like an adult who cares, packaging tape placed
upside down is an excellent area deterrent (I use high-quality tape
which might be thicker and easier to handle). They avoid it like the
plague after two or three encounters. And if you are around, you get
to play hero by removing the tape while saying "Poor kitty, let me
help remove that awful thing." It is exceptionally effective used
only when necessary, for things that otherwise cause significant
friction between you and them. It does not make a good toy, it makes
a real serious impression. Take care.

============
Tried sticky tape on our kitchen counters a few years ago. Worked on one
cat, the other one seems to like it. A cat is a cat, is a cat, is a ...
:-)

Michael Pilla

[jls]

"Michael Pilla" > wrote in message news:ojksd.30597
> ============
> Tried sticky tape on our kitchen counters a few years ago. Worked on one
> cat, the other one seems to like it. A cat is a cat, is a cat, is a ...
> :-)
>
> Michael Pilla
>
Knowing the mind of a woman, herding cats, predicting the weather...

[Ron Wanttaja]

On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 15:01:40 GMT, "Michael Pilla" > wrote:

>"John Doe" > wrote in message
...
>(Off topic)
>
>Ron Wanttaja > wrote:
>
>>Depends on the cats, I think. Two of my wife's are absolutely
>>terrified of balloons. Or course, that could be due to one of them
>>getting a balloon string tied to its tail, one evening....
>>It has a nice side-effect. Whenever we don't want cats in a
>>particular area, we put up a line of Barrage balloons across the
>>doorways. :-)
>
>Used responsibly like an adult who cares, packaging tape placed
>upside down is an excellent area deterrent (I use high-quality tape
>which might be thicker and easier to handle). They avoid it like the
>plague after two or three encounters. And if you are around, you get
>to play hero by removing the tape while saying "Poor kitty, let me
>help remove that awful thing." It is exceptionally effective used
>only when necessary, for things that otherwise cause significant
>friction between you and them. It does not make a good toy, it makes
>a real serious impression. Take care.

There's a commercial product for this...it's called "Sticky Paws," but my wife
gets mad when I refer to it as "no-pest strip". Double-faced, so one can stick
it along the edges of furniture the lil' darlings like to scratch.

It's only partially effective as an area-denial weapon. If you don't completely
blanket the target, they learn to hopscotch.

Nothing short of 0.177 caliber really seems reliable....

Ron Wanttaja

[UltraJohn]

Ron Wanttaja wrote:

> On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 15:01:40 GMT, "Michael Pilla" >
> wrote:
> Nothing short of 0.177 caliber really seems reliable....
>
> Ron Wanttaja
Yeah Good target practice!

[B2431]

>From: Ron Wanttaja
>Date: 12/4/2004 11:58 Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 15:01:40 GMT, "Michael Pilla" >
>wrote:
>
>>"John Doe" > wrote in message
...
>>(Off topic)
>>
>>Ron Wanttaja > wrote:
>>
>>>Depends on the cats, I think. Two of my wife's are absolutely
>>>terrified of balloons. Or course, that could be due to one of them
>>>getting a balloon string tied to its tail, one evening....
>>>It has a nice side-effect. Whenever we don't want cats in a
>>>particular area, we put up a line of Barrage balloons across the
>>>doorways. :-)
>>
>>Used responsibly like an adult who cares, packaging tape placed
>>upside down is an excellent area deterrent (I use high-quality tape
>>which might be thicker and easier to handle). They avoid it like the
>>plague after two or three encounters. And if you are around, you get
>>to play hero by removing the tape while saying "Poor kitty, let me
>>help remove that awful thing." It is exceptionally effective used
>>only when necessary, for things that otherwise cause significant
>>friction between you and them. It does not make a good toy, it makes
>>a real serious impression. Take care.
>
>There's a commercial product for this...it's called "Sticky Paws," but my
>wife
>gets mad when I refer to it as "no-pest strip". Double-faced, so one can
>stick
>it along the edges of furniture the lil' darlings like to scratch.
>
>It's only partially effective as an area-denial weapon. If you don't
>completely
>blanket the target, they learn to hopscotch.
>
>Nothing short of 0.177 caliber really seems reliable....
>
>Ron Wanttaja

Followed by a reading of "101 Ways to Wok Your Pet?"

Dan "who thinks Ron wouldn't share", U.S. Air Force, retired

[Blueskies]

"Ron Wanttaja" > wrote in message ...
> On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 15:01:40 GMT, "Michael Pilla" > wrote:
>
>>"John Doe" > wrote in message
...
>>(Off topic)
>>
>>Ron Wanttaja > wrote:
>>
<snip>

> Nothing short of 0.177 caliber really seems reliable....
>
> Ron Wanttaja
>


"Used responsibly like an adult who cares" of course!

[Ron Wanttaja]

On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 20:28:43 GMT, "Blueskies" >
wrote:

>"Ron Wanttaja" > wrote in message ...
>> On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 15:01:40 GMT, "Michael Pilla" > wrote:
>>
>>>"John Doe" > wrote in message
...
>>>(Off topic)
>>>
>>>Ron Wanttaja > wrote:
>>>
><snip>
>
>> Nothing short of 0.177 caliber really seems reliable....
>>
>> Ron Wanttaja
>
>"Used responsibly like an adult who cares" of course!

I don't normally engage in spelling or grammar flames, but in this case, I must:
You left out a comma in the above sentence.

"Used responsibly like an adult, who cares?"
^

Ron "Setting up the catnip lure" Wanttaja

[Ron Wanttaja]

On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 18:38:04 GMT, UltraJohn > wrote:

>Ron Wanttaja wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 15:01:40 GMT, "Michael Pilla" >
>> wrote:
>> Nothing short of 0.177 caliber really seems reliable....
>>
>> Ron Wanttaja
>
>Yeah Good target practice!

True sportsmen prefer black powder!

http://www.wanttaja.com/cat_hunt.jpg

Ron Wanttaja

[John Ousterhout]

On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 22:35:15 GMT, Ron Wanttaja >
>
>True sportsmen prefer black powder!
>
>http://www.wanttaja.com/cat_hunt.jpg

Like shooting fish in a barrel, eh?

I've had moderate success (effective on 2 of 3 cats) with a squirt gun
loaded with plain water.

- John (using a 38 in the house is NOT a good idea) Ousterhout -

[Harry K]

Ron Wanttaja > wrote in message >...
> On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 20:28:43 GMT, "Blueskies" >
> wrote:
>
> >"Ron Wanttaja" > wrote in message ...
> >> On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 15:01:40 GMT, "Michael Pilla" > wrote:
> >>
> >>>"John Doe" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>(Off topic)
> >>>
> >>>Ron Wanttaja > wrote:
> >>>
> ><snip>
> >
> >> Nothing short of 0.177 caliber really seems reliable....
> >>
> >> Ron Wanttaja
> >
> >"Used responsibly like an adult who cares" of course!
>
> I don't normally engage in spelling or grammar flames, but in this case, I must:
> You left out a comma in the above sentence.
>
> "Used responsibly like an adult, who cares?"
> ^
>
> Ron "Setting up the catnip lure" Wanttaja

A bit OT but...

Where do pets come from?

A newly discovered chapter in the Book of Genesis has
provided the answer to
"Where do pets come from?"

Adam and Eve said, "Lord, when we were in the garden,
you walked with us every day. Now we do not see you any more. We are
lonesome here, and it is difficult for us to remember how much you
love us."


And God said, "No problem! I will create a companion for you that will
be
with you forever and who will be a reflection of my love for you, so
that you
will love me even when you cannot see me. Regardless of how selfish or
childish or unlovable you may be, this new companion will accept you
as you are and will love you as I do, in spite of yourselves."

And God created a new animal to be a companion for Adam and Eve.

And it was a good animal.

And God was pleased.

And the new animal was pleased to be with Adam and Eve and he wagged
his
tail.

And Adam said, "Lord, I have already named all the animals in the
Kingdom and I cannot think of a name for this new animal."

And God said, "No problem. Because I have created this new animal to
be a
reflection of my love for you, his name will be a reflection of my own
name, and you will call him DOG."

And Dog lived with Adam and Eve and was a companion to them and loved
them.

And they were comforted.

And God was pleased.

And Dog was content and wagged his tail.

After a while, it came to pass that an angel came to the Lord and
said,
"Lord, Adam and Eve have become filled with pride.
They strut and preen like peacocks and they believe they are worthy of
adoration. Dog has indeed taught them that they are loved, but perhaps
too well."

And God said, "No problem! I will create for them a companion who will
be
with them forever and who will see them as they are. The companion
will remind them of their limitations, so they will know that they are
not always worthy of adoration."

And God created CAT to be a companion to Adam and Eve.

And Cat would not obey them. And when Adam and Eve gazed into Cat's
eyes, they were reminded that they were not the supreme beings. And
Adam and Eve learned humility.

And they were greatly improved.

And God was pleased.

And Dog was happy.

And Cat didn't give a ???? one way or the other.
__________________

Harry K

[Robert Bonomi]

In article >,
John Ousterhout > wrote:
>On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 22:35:15 GMT, Ron Wanttaja >
>>
>>True sportsmen prefer black powder!
>>
>>http://www.wanttaja.com/cat_hunt.jpg
>
>Like shooting fish in a barrel, eh?
>
>I've had moderate success (effective on 2 of 3 cats) with a squirt gun
>loaded with plain water.

For increased effectiveness, add some detergent to the water. It dramatically
increases the 'penetrating power' of the shot; as does a mix of roughly 1 part
isopropyl alcohol to 5 parts water.

[John Ousterhout]

On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 14:40:21 +0000,
>>
>>I've had moderate success (effective on 2 of 3 cats) with a squirt gun
>>loaded with plain water.

>For increased effectiveness, add some detergent to the water. It dramatically
>increases the 'penetrating power' of the shot; as does a mix of roughly 1 part
>isopropyl alcohol to 5 parts water.

I'll remember that if I even have to occupy a house with cats again.
That's not likely (unless it's a BearCat).

Mandatory aviation content: Many cats appear to be aerobatic -- when
hit with a squirt gun they perform a vertical takeoff and and an
immediate Immelman.

- J.O.-

[Ron Wanttaja]

On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 01:38:27 GMT, John Ousterhout
> wrote:

>Mandatory aviation content: Many cats appear to be aerobatic -- when
>hit with a squirt gun they perform a vertical takeoff and and an
>immediate Immelman.

But some are just cheese-eating surrender kittens.....

http://www.wanttaja.com/cat_hunt2.jpg

Ron Wanttaja