Newsgroup problem

[Morgans]

I am not able to receive the newsgroups I normally get, but am getting other
groups, when I try them. Is this message getting through? Write me off
group at

Ideas?

Take out the junk.
--
Jim in NC




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[Rich S.]

This is a relayed message from Jim Morgan:
************************************************** *************
My ISP has had my two favorite groups (this is one of them <g>) screwed
up for the whole weekend. I have tried to get it fixed, but "it is the
weekend", and "we have no idea what the problem is", or... substitute
you favorite excuse. I am hopeful this is resolved, but not at all
confident.

In the meantime, I am looking for suggestions for a web based
newsreader, that 1.) is free, since I hope I don't need it for long,
2.) can expand threads, so all of the conversation's headers can be seen
at once, and can be downloaded in the correct order. Basically, I like
the Outlook Express style of presentation.

Any help out there? What are your favorites, and why.

You will have to respond via e-mail, since I can not see the answer if
you post it to the newsgroup. Use Take out
the JUNK.

Thanks
Jim in NC

[Morgans]

"Rich S." > wrote

> This is a relayed message from Jim Morgan:
> ************************************************** *************
> My ISP has had my two favorite groups (this is one of them <g>) screwed
> up for the whole weekend.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Well, it appears that whoever screwed it up, came back to
work Monday, and fixed it. Everything is back working, so ignore my
request.

Thanks, all.
--
Jim in NC

[Jay Honeck]

> Well, it appears that whoever screwed it up, came back to
> work Monday, and fixed it. Everything is back working, so ignore my
> request.

Welcome back!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[jls]

"Morgans" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Rich S." > wrote
>
> > This is a relayed message from Jim Morgan:
> > ************************************************** *************
> > My ISP has had my two favorite groups (this is one of them <g>) screwed
> > up for the whole weekend.
>
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Well, it appears that whoever screwed it up, came back to
> work Monday, and fixed it. Everything is back working, so ignore my
> request.
>
> Thanks, all.
> --
> Jim in NC

One of the reasons why I left Charter is because of their shabby usenet
support. They consider usenet an add-on (They will tell you so) and a
nuisance and when I had Charter their feed was Supernews, a genuine usenet
dud.

[zatatime]

On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 10:23:38 -0500, " jls" >
wrote:

> They consider usenet an add-on

All ISPs consider usentet an add-on.

z

[Roger]

On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 18:02:02 -0800, "Rich S."
> wrote:

>This is a relayed message from Jim Morgan:
>************************************************** *************
>My ISP has had my two favorite groups (this is one of them <g>) screwed
>up for the whole weekend. I have tried to get it fixed, but "it is the
>weekend", and "we have no idea what the problem is", or... substitute
>you favorite excuse. I am hopeful this is resolved, but not at all
>confident.

Probably Charter. Yup. Just read the sig. They "upgraded" a couple
weeks back. The whole thing crashed (think it was Friday) and must
have come back up some time this morning. It wasn't up at 4:00 AM.
Seems to be back up here at least for the time being.
>
Now I have a choice. My system thinks it's up-to-date even though it
is missing the last 3 days worth of posts. They don't even carry 4 of
the primary groups I was following. (digital photography groups)

>In the meantime, I am looking for suggestions for a web based
>newsreader, that 1.) is free, since I hope I don't need it for long,
>2.) can expand threads, so all of the conversation's headers can be seen
>at once, and can be downloaded in the correct order. Basically, I like
>the Outlook Express style of presentation.

Used to be Deja-News or some such, but I think they became Google. I
think Google then dropped all but the search engine.


Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
>
>Any help out there? What are your favorites, and why.
>
>You will have to respond via e-mail, since I can not see the answer if
>you post it to the newsgroup. Use Take out
>the JUNK.
>
>Thanks
>Jim in NC
>

[Morgans]

"Roger" > wrote
>
> Probably Charter. Yup. Just read the sig. They "upgraded" a couple
> weeks back. The whole thing crashed (think it was Friday)

My last post I received was 3:31 PM EST Friday.

> and must
> have come back up some time this morning. It wasn't up at 4:00 AM.
> Seems to be back up here at least for the time being.

Yep. Back up here, too. The amazing thing was that all the binaries groups
were still up. Also, the tecs I called at Charter did not even know that
there was anything wrong. They gave me an E-mail address for their news
service, but I have not heard back from them. Probably won't. They must
have been swamped from complaints.

> Now I have a choice. My system thinks it's up-to-date even though it
> is missing the last 3 days worth of posts.

I'm just going to forget about the missed posts. Too much hassle to sort
though them any other way. I think I'll live. :-)

>They don't even carry 4 of
> the primary groups I was following. (digital photography groups)

Too bad. have you called and bitched about it?

>
> Used to be Deja-News or some such, but I think they became Google. I
> think Google then dropped all but the search engine.
>
>
> Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)

None I have tried came close to the convenience and clarity that OE
provides. I hope Charter can keep its act together.
--
Jim in NC

[zatatime]

On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:57:08 -0500, "Morgans"
> wrote:

>None I have tried came close to the convenience and clarity that OE
>provides. I hope Charter can keep its act together.


Have you tried Agent? It's free. Once I took a look at it, I never
went back to OE.

Also, here is a link to a free news provider. May be helpful if
Charter keeps having problems.

HTH.
z

[John T]

I just sent a b*tch letter to charter about the newsgroups. They changed
servers about a week or so ago, and now the groups are always messed up,
old messages showing as new (repeatedly), "no such article" messages, etc.

I'm using the same setting and stuff in netscape as I did with their old
servers, so its not on my end.

John

[Roger]

On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 18:16:45 GMT, zatatime > wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:57:08 -0500, "Morgans"
> wrote:
>
>>None I have tried came close to the convenience and clarity that OE
>>provides. I hope Charter can keep its act together.
>
>
>Have you tried Agent? It's free. Once I took a look at it, I never
>went back to OE.

I'll second that although I did not like the limitations of free agent
and bought the full version which is not expensive.

>
>Also, here is a link to a free news provider. May be helpful if
>Charter keeps having problems.


Link??

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

>
>HTH.
>z

[zatatime]

On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 15:46:41 -0500, Roger
> wrote:

>>Also, here is a link to a free news provider. May be helpful if
>>Charter keeps having problems.
>
>
>Link??

Ooops. Sorry about that.

Link: http://news.individual.net/

It doesn't do binaries, but others have said it's about the best
server out there.

HTH.
z

(Who also sprung for the full version of Agent.)

[Morgans]

"zatatime" > wrote
>
> Have you tried Agent? It's free. Once I took a look at it, I never
> went back to OE.
>

I did play with Agent a little last night. Not bad, and it deserves another
look.

> Also, here is a link to a free news provider. May be helpful if
> Charter keeps having problems.
>
> HTH.
> z

That link is where? :-)
--
Jim in NC

[[email protected]]

Morgans, on Dec 6, 9:57 am , wrote:

" I'm just going to forget about the missed posts. Too much hassle to
sort
though them any other way. I think I'll live. :-) ":

You can read them using google, www.google.com.

However they are upgrading their user interface so that it is much
harder
than it was last week.

--

Doug C

[RST Engineering]

I didn't mind the limitations of Free Agent, but it kept locking up my ISP
connection every half hour or so. OE hasn't locked up once in the last
month.

Is this one of the "features" that you have to pay to get rid of? I'd hate
like hell to spend the money on a product that did this in the pay-for
version.

Jim




"Roger" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 18:16:45 GMT, zatatime > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:57:08 -0500, "Morgans"
> wrote:
>>
>>>None I have tried came close to the convenience and clarity that OE
>>>provides. I hope Charter can keep its act together.
>>
>>
>>Have you tried Agent? It's free. Once I took a look at it, I never
>>went back to OE.

[zatatime]

On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 16:02:34 -0800, "RST Engineering"
> wrote:

>I didn't mind the limitations of Free Agent, but it kept locking up my ISP
>connection every half hour or so. OE hasn't locked up once in the last
>month.
>
>Is this one of the "features" that you have to pay to get rid of? I'd hate
>like hell to spend the money on a product that did this in the pay-for
>version.
>
>Jim

I've never had either the free version, or regular version "lock up"
my connection. I have had the converse happen (using most of my
upload bandwidth and Agent struggled to download), but I'd attribute
that more to how cable works and not the software. Not sure what may
have happened to you, but would start by checking the programs set-up,
although it appears to be too late for that.

HTH.
z

[John Ammeter]

I used to use Free Agent and now use the paid for version.

Never had this experience you describe.

John



On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 16:02:34 -0800, "RST Engineering"
> wrote:

>I didn't mind the limitations of Free Agent, but it kept locking up my ISP
>connection every half hour or so. OE hasn't locked up once in the last
>month.
>
>Is this one of the "features" that you have to pay to get rid of? I'd hate
>like hell to spend the money on a product that did this in the pay-for
>version.
>
>Jim
>
>
>
>
>"Roger" > wrote in message
...
>> On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 18:16:45 GMT, zatatime > wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:57:08 -0500, "Morgans"
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>None I have tried came close to the convenience and clarity that OE
>>>>provides. I hope Charter can keep its act together.
>>>
>>>
>>>Have you tried Agent? It's free. Once I took a look at it, I never
>>>went back to OE.
>

[Ed Sullivan]

On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 16:02:34 -0800, "RST Engineering"
> wrote:

>I didn't mind the limitations of Free Agent, but it kept locking up my ISP
>connection every half hour or so. OE hasn't locked up once in the last
>month.
>
>Is this one of the "features" that you have to pay to get rid of? I'd hate
>like hell to spend the money on a product that did this in the pay-for
>version.
>
>Jim

I use Free Agent. The times mine "locks up" the dialog box explains
that it is the fault of the server being overloaded.

Ed Sullivan

[Roger]

On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 18:34:13 -0800, Ed Sullivan >
wrote:

>On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 16:02:34 -0800, "RST Engineering"
> wrote:
>
>>I didn't mind the limitations of Free Agent, but it kept locking up my ISP
>>connection every half hour or so. OE hasn't locked up once in the last
>>month.
>>
>>Is this one of the "features" that you have to pay to get rid of? I'd hate
>>like hell to spend the money on a product that did this in the pay-for
>>version.

No. As I recall the differences are the way threads are grouped and a
couple of other things that are nice to have. Ed could probably tell
you what he could gain by going to the full version. I've had it so
long I've forgotten.

As Ed said, it'll explain the hangs, or lock ups, which are usually
due to the server. OTOH if you run as much stuff as I do at the same
time the computer sometimes gets kinda slowwww....

Try free agent. It's good and if you want more I think it's about $20
to upgrade. That's a WAG as I have forgotten the cost to upgrade to
the full version.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
>>
>>Jim
>
>I use Free Agent. The times mine "locks up" the dialog box explains
>that it is the fault of the server being overloaded.
>
>Ed Sullivan

[Barnyard BOb -]

On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 06:32:38 -0500, "Morgans"
> wrote:

>Well, it appears that whoever screwed it up, came back to
>work Monday, and fixed it. Everything is back working, so ignore my
>request.
>
>Thanks, all.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


DAMN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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[Morgans]

> On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 06:32:38 -0500, "Morgans"
> > wrote:
>
> >Well, it appears that whoever screwed it up, came back to
> >work Monday, and fixed it. Everything is back working, so ignore my
> >request.
> >
> >Thanks, all.
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
> DAMN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>
> BB -
>

You forgot the smiley, BOb.

You *did* just forget them, right BOb?

After all, where else can you get such cheap pleasure at someone else's
expense! <g>
--
Jim in NC

[Barnyard BOb -]

"Morgans" wrote:

>> >Well, it appears that whoever screwed it up, came back to
>> >work Monday, and fixed it. Everything is back working, so ignore my
>> >request.
>> >
>> >Thanks, all.
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>
>> DAMN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>
>>
>> BB -
>>
>
>You forgot the smiley, BOb.
>
>You *did* just forget them, right BOb?
>
>After all, where else can you get such cheap pleasure at someone else's
>expense! <g>
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I actually *didn't* forget the smiley, but.....
you knew it was hiding in my heart - right, Jim? <g>


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