advanced ground instructor question

[Napoleon Dynamite]

Hi guys
hello Ladies

I am confused, as always.


I am a fixed wing private pilot. I want to teach fixed wing
groundschool upon passing the AGI written test. The FAA Flight and
Ground Instructor and Pilot Examiner Airman Knowledge Test Question
Bank ---
http://av-info.faa.gov/data/airmanknowledge/cfi.htm

contains helicopter and hot air balloon questions.Is the AGI
certificate broken into classes( fixed wing separate from rotorcraft
and balloon) or will ALL the questions be on the test? sincere thanks

[Robert M. Gary]

Napoleon Dynamite wrote:
> Hi guys
> hello Ladies
>
> I am confused, as always.
>
>
> I am a fixed wing private pilot. I want to teach fixed wing
> groundschool upon passing the AGI written test. The FAA Flight and
> Ground Instructor and Pilot Examiner Airman Knowledge Test Question
> Bank ---
> http://av-info.faa.gov/data/airmanknowledge/cfi.htm
>
> contains helicopter and hot air balloon questions.Is the AGI
> certificate broken into classes( fixed wing separate from rotorcraft
> and balloon) or will ALL the questions be on the test? sincere thanks

No, the AGI ticket includes the priv of signing off knowledge exams for
any FAA airmen certificate at the private or commercial level. The FAA
does not offer a fixed wing or rotor only ground instructor
certificate. It does not include the ability to sign off instrument
knowledge exams (that's just another test).
Also, note that you must also take the FAA FOI exam as well. This is
required of all FAA instructors, ground and flight. After taking both
the AGI and the FOI exam you simply present both to the FSDO office and
a AGI certificate will be presented to you, without ceremony.

-Robert

[kontiki]

Robert M. Gary wrote:
> No, the AGI ticket includes the priv of signing off knowledge exams for
> any FAA airmen certificate at the private or commercial level. The FAA
> does not offer a fixed wing or rotor only ground instructor
> certificate. It does not include the ability to sign off instrument
> knowledge exams (that's just another test).

If you hold and AGII (Advance Ground Instructor - Instrument) then you
can sign off someone for the Instrument written.

[Bob Moore]

kontiki > wrote
> If you hold and AGII (Advance Ground Instructor - Instrument) then you
> can sign off someone for the Instrument written.

A Ground Instructor Certificate can have any of three ratings:
Basic, Advanced, and/or Instrument
No such thing as an AGII. Advanced and Instrument are two
separate ratings. The Advanced rating is not required in order
to provide instrument training, just the Instrument rating.

Bob Moore
Ground Instructor Certificate
Advanced Ground Instructor Rating
Instrument Ground Instructor Rating

[kontiki]

Bob Moore wrote:
> A Ground Instructor Certificate can have any of three ratings:
> Basic, Advanced, and/or Instrument
> No such thing as an AGII. Advanced and Instrument are two
> separate ratings. The Advanced rating is not required in order
> to provide instrument training, just the Instrument rating.
>
> Bob Moore
> Ground Instructor Certificate
> Advanced Ground Instructor Rating
> Instrument Ground Instructor Rating

Yes, I stand corrected on the phraseology. I also hold
an AGI with an Instrument endorsement. I've just always
called it AGII ... sortof like CFII.

[Bob Moore]

kontiki > wrote
> Yes, I stand corrected on the phraseology. I also hold
> an AGI with an Instrument endorsement. I've just always
> called it AGII ... sortof like CFII.

Terminology is still wrong.

It is a Ground Instructor with Advanced and Instrument ratings.
They are not endorsements, they are ratings.

Bob Moore

[Napoleon Dynamite]

thank you Gentlemen, I appreciate your comments

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Actually, according to my FSDO, an AGI *can* sign off canddiates for
the Instrument written. You don't need to be a IGI. this is based on:

14 CFR 61.215 - Ground instructor privileges.

(b) A person who holds an advanced ground instructor rating is
authorized to provide:

(1) Ground training in the aeronautical knowledge areas required for
the issuance of any certificate or rating under this part;

(2) Ground training required for any flight review; and

(3) A recommendation for a knowledge test required for the issuance of
any certificate under this part.


Additionally, the FAA's Part 61 FAQ (
http://www.faa.gov/avr/afs/afs800/docs/pt61FAQ.doc ) , while holding
little or no legal authority, specifically states that an AGI with no
IGI can sign off a recommendation for an Instrument written test.

How often will it happen? Beats me...I'm a CFI and AGI, and I've never
endoresed anyone for the Instrument written. But (even without a CFII
or IGI), it appears that I could.

Cheers,

Cap

[Gig 601XL Builder]

"Bob Moore" > wrote in message
. 122...
> kontiki > wrote
>> If you hold and AGII (Advance Ground Instructor - Instrument) then you
>> can sign off someone for the Instrument written.
>
> A Ground Instructor Certificate can have any of three ratings:
> Basic, Advanced, and/or Instrument
> No such thing as an AGII. Advanced and Instrument are two
> separate ratings. The Advanced rating is not required in order
> to provide instrument training, just the Instrument rating.
>
> Bob Moore
> Ground Instructor Certificate
> Advanced Ground Instructor Rating
> Instrument Ground Instructor Rating


You don't have to have a commercial for any of the ground instructor
ratings?

Do you have to have and Instrument rating for the Instrument Ground
Instructor Rating?

[Bob Moore]

"Gig 601XL Builder" <wr.giacona@coxDOTnet> wrote
> You don't have to have a commercial for any of the ground instructor
> ratings?

Don't even have to be a pilot.

> Do you have to have and Instrument rating for the Instrument Ground
> Instructor Rating?

Don't even have to be a pilot.

Bob Moore