copy lic. ok?

[houstondan]

well, the numbers are starting to rub off my pretty new airplane
drivers license. anyone know if it's ok if i just make a nice copy and
carry that or do i have to have the original card in my possession on a
ramp check.


dan

[Jim Burns]

I see some of mine are getting rubbed off too...guess my wallet's gonna get
thicker... photocopy the plastic ones, laminate both the plastic and the
photo copies.
Jim

"houstondan" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> well, the numbers are starting to rub off my pretty new airplane
> drivers license. anyone know if it's ok if i just make a nice copy and
> carry that or do i have to have the original card in my possession on a
> ramp check.
>
>
> dan
>

[Gary Drescher]

"houstondan" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> well, the numbers are starting to rub off my pretty new airplane
> drivers license. anyone know if it's ok if i just make a nice copy and
> carry that or do i have to have the original card in my possession on a
> ramp check.

FAR 61.3a1 requires you to have the certificate itself in your physical
possession.

The print began rubbing off mine, too, after just a few months (whereas my
driver's license is still perfectly legible after five years). The name and
number on mine are still intact, though.

You can request a replacement certificate online at
http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/airmen_certification/certificate_replacement/.
They charge $2, but I would refuse to pay the fee if the original license is
defective.

--Gary

[Newps]

A copy is fine.



houstondan wrote:

> well, the numbers are starting to rub off my pretty new airplane
> drivers license. anyone know if it's ok if i just make a nice copy and
> carry that or do i have to have the original card in my possession on a
> ramp check.
>
>
> dan
>

[Gary Drescher]

"Newps" > wrote in message
...
> houstondan wrote:
>
>> well, the numbers are starting to rub off my pretty new airplane
>> drivers license. anyone know if it's ok if i just make a nice copy and
>> carry that or do i have to have the original card in my possession on a
>> ramp check.
>>
> A copy is fine.

How do you reconcile that claim with 61.3a1?

--Gary

[Bob Moore]

Newps > wrote

> A copy is fine.

Like hell it is!

Bob Moore

[Dan Thompson]

I laminated my card at Kinko's. Now it's wallet-proof and water-proof.

"houstondan" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> well, the numbers are starting to rub off my pretty new airplane
> drivers license. anyone know if it's ok if i just make a nice copy and
> carry that or do i have to have the original card in my possession on a
> ramp check.
>
>
> dan
>

[RST Engineering]

The hell you say. Spend the $3, get a fresh copy, and have it laminated at
an insty-print store.


>> A copy is fine.

[Darrell S]

houstondan wrote:
> well, the numbers are starting to rub off my pretty new airplane
> drivers license. anyone know if it's ok if i just make a nice copy
> and carry that or do i have to have the original card in my
> possession on a ramp check.
>
>
> dan

I think they need to redo the colors. Black lettering on a blue/green
background is difficult to read even when new.

--

Darrell R. Schmidt
B-58 Hustler History: http://members.cox.net/dschmidt1/
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[houstondan]

gary...thanks for the useful info. i'm in the fed site so i'll get
registered, get the new card, copy it, have it laminated, hide the old
one just in case since they say they will not issue more than one
replacment. i guess if your wallet gets stolen twice you're not a pilot
anymore?

as to standing on the principle and protesting the 2$ by standing
outside crawford...no, holdit...that's another protest...i think i'll
pass. the federal government is pretty immune to protests on principle.

dan

[Gary Drescher]

"houstondan" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> gary...thanks for the useful info. i'm in the fed site so i'll get
> registered, get the new card, copy it, have it laminated, hide the old
> one just in case since they say they will not issue more than one
> replacment. i guess if your wallet gets stolen twice you're not a pilot
> anymore?

Do you mean the part where they say "We can only issue one copy of each
certificate"? I assumed they just meant one at a time.

--Gary

[Jim Burns]

"Bob Moore" > wrote in message
. 121...
> Newps > wrote
>
> > A copy is fine.
>
> Like hell it is!
>
> Bob Moore

Dang... I was gonna copy mine, type a few more ratings on the back of it,
then laminate it. Bob, you just took all the fun out of my new career.
(wink) :)

Jim

[George Patterson]

Newps wrote:
> A copy is fine.

Not quite. A copy will get you a fine.

George Patterson
Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.

[10Squared]

But be sure to sign it first.

RST Engineering wrote:

> The hell you say. Spend the $3, get a fresh copy, and have it laminated
> at an insty-print store.
>
>
>>> A copy is fine.

[houstondan]

Gary Drescher wrote:
> "houstondan" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> > gary...thanks for the useful info. i'm in the fed site so i'll get
> > registered, get the new card, copy it, have it laminated, hide the old
> > one just in case since they say they will not issue more than one
> > replacment. i guess if your wallet gets stolen twice you're not a pilot
> > anymore?
>
> Do you mean the part where they say "We can only issue one copy of each
> certificate"? I assumed they just meant one at a time.
>
> --Gary


the writer of that sentence probably meant that but do you think a
federal beaurocrat would make that assumption or would they more likely
just read the literal reg and refuse to issue another copy if the
file/computer shows you've already gotten one?


dan

[Gary Drescher]

"houstondan" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> Gary Drescher wrote:
>> "houstondan" > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>> > gary...thanks for the useful info. i'm in the fed site so i'll get
>> > registered, get the new card, copy it, have it laminated, hide the old
>> > one just in case since they say they will not issue more than one
>> > replacment. i guess if your wallet gets stolen twice you're not a pilot
>> > anymore?
>>
>> Do you mean the part where they say "We can only issue one copy of each
>> certificate"? I assumed they just meant one at a time.
>>
>> --Gary
>
> the writer of that sentence probably meant that but do you think a
> federal beaurocrat would make that assumption or would they more likely
> just read the literal reg and refuse to issue another copy if the
> file/computer shows you've already gotten one?

The web page in question is directed at the general public. The bureaucrat
who issues the certificates probably sees a much different document.

In any case, out of 600,000 US pilots, there have surely been some who lost
their physical certificates multiple times. If they'd been denied
replacements, we'd probably have heard about it.

--Gary