Diesel

[Robert Bates]

Is there such a thing as a smaller (used market) diesel other than the
current batch that is being developed? I have researched the Guiberson but
it is too large for a light twin and too small for something bigger like a
Beech 18. A site mentioned a six cylinder opposed engine developed from the
Guiberson but I have been unable to find much on it.

[Jan Carlsson]

http://www.centurion-engines.com/index.htm
http://www.dair.co.uk/
http://www.deltahawkengines.com/
http://www.dac-ranger.nl/
http://216.239.37.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://delvion.free.fr/&prev
=/search%3Fq%3DDelvion%2Bjodel%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26i e%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8
http://www.wilksch.com/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chas11nz/
http://www.zoche.de/

some info I have found on diesel engines, missing some like the Renault or
what ever it is called now. The Zoche seems to be very dead.

Jan Carlsson
www.jcpropellerdesign.com


"Robert Bates" > skrev i meddelandet
...
> Is there such a thing as a smaller (used market) diesel other than the
> current batch that is being developed? I have researched the Guiberson
but
> it is too large for a light twin and too small for something bigger like a
> Beech 18. A site mentioned a six cylinder opposed engine developed from
the
> Guiberson but I have been unable to find much on it.
>
>

[Denny]

The Zoche is dead because its builder never intended to build it: it
was a venture capital scheme.

The certificated diesels being introduced are going to be more
expensive than a Lycoming, because they are going to be a premium
alternative to a Lyc or a lower priced alternative to a turbine for
countries where "aviation fuel" means kerosene and the car gas is pure
swill. Since Lyc and Continental will not produce an engine for car
gas under its issued ATC and many countries don't recognize the US
STC's, even if their car gas was usable, this makes economic sense.

There are several experimental-market engines like the Deltahawk out
there but I don't know if they are actually shipping. There are
conversions of general purpose production diesels such as the Isuzu
used in Dieselis, and if you speak French maybe you can get a set of
plans from them. They refuse to speak English, even though of course
if it weren't for us they'd be speaking German, but that's another
issue.

[Denny]

The Zoche is dead because its builder never intended to build it: it
was a venture capital scheme.

The certificated diesels being introduced are going to be more
expensive than a Lycoming, because they are going to be a premium
alternative to a Lyc or a lower priced alternative to a turbine for
countries where "aviation fuel" means kerosene and the car gas is pure
swill. Since Lyc and Continental will not produce an engine for car
gas under its issued ATC and many countries don't recognize the US
STC's, even if their car gas was usable, this makes economic sense.

There are several experimental-market engines like the Deltahawk out
there but I don't know if they are actually shipping. There are
conversions of general purpose production diesels such as the Isuzu
used in Dieselis, and if you speak French maybe you can get a set of
plans from them. They refuse to speak English, even though of course
if it weren't for us they'd be speaking German, but that's another
issue.

[Robert Bates]

I read about the new VW Passat diesel which makes 134hp but I was hoping for
150-180hp for an experimental Apache.



"Denny" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> The Zoche is dead because its builder never intended to build it: it
> was a venture capital scheme.
>
> The certificated diesels being introduced are going to be more
> expensive than a Lycoming, because they are going to be a premium
> alternative to a Lyc or a lower priced alternative to a turbine for
> countries where "aviation fuel" means kerosene and the car gas is pure
> swill. Since Lyc and Continental will not produce an engine for car
> gas under its issued ATC and many countries don't recognize the US
> STC's, even if their car gas was usable, this makes economic sense.
>
> There are several experimental-market engines like the Deltahawk out
> there but I don't know if they are actually shipping. There are
> conversions of general purpose production diesels such as the Isuzu
> used in Dieselis, and if you speak French maybe you can get a set of
> plans from them. They refuse to speak English, even though of course
> if it weren't for us they'd be speaking German, but that's another
> issue.
>

[kumaros]

Robert Bates wrote:
> I read about the new VW Passat diesel which makes 134hp but I was hoping for
> 150-180hp for an experimental Apache.
>
>
Lots of new Diesels coming onto the market, among them some very
interesting ~ 200 HP V6's from all major manufacturers:
Isuzu (GM) V6, 3 liters, 177 HP (all aluminum, should be lightweight)
VW, V6 TDI (from the Touareg, Phaeton, maybe Passat too), 225 HP, weight
ca. 400 lbs., 500 Newton meters of torque from 1750 RPM !!!
DaimlerChrysler V6, 3 liters, 224 HP, weight ~ 400 lbs., 510 Nm torque
from 1600 - 2800 RPM !!! Maybe no redrive needed?
Ford-Jaguar-PSA V6 2.7 liters, ~ 200 HP
By the time the airframe of my prospected Cozy/Aerocanard will be
finished, there should be enough SUV's etc. wrecked for beautiful
salvaged engines.
Kumaros
It's all Greek to me