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Otis Willie
August 22nd 05, 10:28 PM
Navy helo pilots plan tactical training in multi-phase exercise
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=31087

{EXCERPT} Stars and Stripes, D.C. - 4 hours ago SUBIC BAY, Philippines
US Navy Lt. jg Amy Sadeghzadeh was the first woman to ever fly a Royal
Brunei Air Force helicopter. When......

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Michael Wise
August 23rd 05, 04:22 AM
In article >,
Otis Willie > wrote:

> Navy helo pilots plan tactical training in multi-phase exercise
> http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=31087
>
> {EXCERPT} Stars and Stripes, D.C. - 4 hours ago SUBIC BAY, Philippines
> US Navy Lt. jg Amy Sadeghzadeh was the first woman to ever fly a Royal
> Brunei Air Force helicopter. When......


The link is broken (BTW, do copyright laws really prohibit reposting of
articles to not-for-profit FYI areas like Usenet?) , but the thought of
Brunei having a Royal Air Force brings a chuckle.

Just a tiny country with a filthy rich sultan/dictator ruling it. On my
1987 world cruise on CV-63, I remember the captain announcing the Sultan
of Brunei was going to be aboard. We all kind of looked at each other
thinking the same thing: where the f*ck is Brunei? After consulting an
atlas, we then pondered why a major US war ship should care about caring
about such a country...until we further read up on the sultan being one
of the richest people on earth.

He trapped aboard on one of VS-33's Hoovers, and a red carpet was rolled
out for him (literally). He wore an olive drab uniform bedecked with
ribbons and pins (despite the fact that he was non-military) and every
squadron in the CVW participated in an air show for his amusement (or
purchasing decisions). Even us lowly HS types were part of the show and
jumped a swimmer (me) abeam the port side. Maybe we impacted his
purchasing decisions after all. What sort of helos does the article
(w/broken link) you're citing refer to?



--Mike

Brett
August 23rd 05, 04:41 AM
"Michael Wise" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Otis Willie > wrote:
>
> > Navy helo pilots plan tactical training in multi-phase exercise
> > http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=31087
> >
> > {EXCERPT} Stars and Stripes, D.C. - 4 hours ago SUBIC BAY, Philippines
> > US Navy Lt. jg Amy Sadeghzadeh was the first woman to ever fly a Royal
> > Brunei Air Force helicopter. When......
>
>
> The link is broken (BTW, do copyright laws really prohibit reposting of
> articles to not-for-profit FYI areas like Usenet?) , but the thought of
> Brunei having a Royal Air Force brings a chuckle.
>
> Just a tiny country with a filthy rich sultan/dictator ruling it. On my
> 1987 world cruise on CV-63, I remember the captain announcing the Sultan
> of Brunei was going to be aboard. We all kind of looked at each other
> thinking the same thing: where the f*ck is Brunei? After consulting an
> atlas, we then pondered why a major US war ship should care about caring
> about such a country...until we further read up on the sultan being one
> of the richest people on earth.
>
> He trapped aboard on one of VS-33's Hoovers, and a red carpet was rolled
> out for him (literally). He wore an olive drab uniform bedecked with
> ribbons and pins (despite the fact that he was non-military

I believe you might find that the Sultan attended, and is a graduate of the
Royal Military Academy Sandhurst.

> ) and every
> squadron in the CVW participated in an air show for his amusement (or
> purchasing decisions). Even us lowly HS types were part of the show and
> jumped a swimmer (me) abeam the port side. Maybe we impacted his
> purchasing decisions after all. What sort of helos does the article
> (w/broken link) you're citing refer to?
>
>
>
> --Mike

Michael Wise
August 23rd 05, 06:10 AM
In article >,
"Brett" > wrote:


> > He trapped aboard on one of VS-33's Hoovers, and a red carpet was rolled
> > out for him (literally). He wore an olive drab uniform bedecked with
> > ribbons and pins (despite the fact that he was non-military
>
> I believe you might find that the Sultan attended, and is a graduate of the
> Royal Military Academy Sandhurst.

Great, so he attended an academy. What military did he ever actually
serve in? And how did he get all those ribbons* and such in this
mystical military?


--Mike


*in my 1987 cruise book photos, I count approx. 20 ribbons as well as
some sort of airborne/jump wings on his K-mart uniform

Brett
August 23rd 05, 02:24 PM
"Michael Wise" > wrote:
> In article >,
> "Brett" > wrote:
>
>
> > > He trapped aboard on one of VS-33's Hoovers, and a red carpet was
rolled
> > > out for him (literally). He wore an olive drab uniform bedecked with
> > > ribbons and pins (despite the fact that he was non-military
> >
> > I believe you might find that the Sultan attended, and is a graduate of
the
> > Royal Military Academy Sandhurst.
>
> Great, so he attended an academy. What military did he ever actually
> serve in? And how did he get all those ribbons* and such in this
> mystical military?

On graduation he was commissioned a Captain - at the time Brunei was a
British protectorate, independence came in 1984, so how about the British
Army (I'm not sure if British protectorate status gave him UK citizenship,
but it probably did).

Keith W
August 23rd 05, 02:48 PM
"Brett" > wrote in message
. ..
> "Michael Wise" > wrote:
>> In article >,
>> "Brett" > wrote:
>>
>>
>> > > He trapped aboard on one of VS-33's Hoovers, and a red carpet was
> rolled
>> > > out for him (literally). He wore an olive drab uniform bedecked with
>> > > ribbons and pins (despite the fact that he was non-military
>> >
>> > I believe you might find that the Sultan attended, and is a graduate of
> the
>> > Royal Military Academy Sandhurst.
>>
>> Great, so he attended an academy. What military did he ever actually
>> serve in? And how did he get all those ribbons* and such in this
>> mystical military?
>
> On graduation he was commissioned a Captain - at the time Brunei was a
> British protectorate, independence came in 1984, so how about the British
> Army (I'm not sure if British protectorate status gave him UK citizenship,
> but it probably did).
>
>

Any service was pretty dammed brief , his official bio says

"he later qualified for admission as an officer cadet at the
Sandhurst Royal Military Academy and was commissioned
as a Captain in 1967. He left Sandhurst in October of the
same year to ascend the throne."

Keith



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Mike Kanze
August 23rd 05, 08:08 PM
Don't forget that Brunei sits over a large pool of crude and that having a
guy like the sultan on our side in a very unstable region (then and
especially now) might be considered by Washington as a plus.

We used to do the same firepower demos for Marcos when he was "president" of
the Philippines. Detestable little runt, but it preserved Subic/Cubi and
Clark during a time when we really needed those bases.

--
Mike Kanze

"If you want to feel secure about the world, never talk to a member of the
generation that's running it."

- Jeremy Duncan (ZITS comic strip, 7/9/05)


"Michael Wise" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Otis Willie > wrote:
>
>> Navy helo pilots plan tactical training in multi-phase exercise
>> http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=31087
>>
>> {EXCERPT} Stars and Stripes, D.C. - 4 hours ago SUBIC BAY, Philippines
>> US Navy Lt. jg Amy Sadeghzadeh was the first woman to ever fly a Royal
>> Brunei Air Force helicopter. When......
>
>
> The link is broken (BTW, do copyright laws really prohibit reposting of
> articles to not-for-profit FYI areas like Usenet?) , but the thought of
> Brunei having a Royal Air Force brings a chuckle.
>
> Just a tiny country with a filthy rich sultan/dictator ruling it. On my
> 1987 world cruise on CV-63, I remember the captain announcing the Sultan
> of Brunei was going to be aboard. We all kind of looked at each other
> thinking the same thing: where the f*ck is Brunei? After consulting an
> atlas, we then pondered why a major US war ship should care about caring
> about such a country...until we further read up on the sultan being one
> of the richest people on earth.
>
> He trapped aboard on one of VS-33's Hoovers, and a red carpet was rolled
> out for him (literally). He wore an olive drab uniform bedecked with
> ribbons and pins (despite the fact that he was non-military) and every
> squadron in the CVW participated in an air show for his amusement (or
> purchasing decisions). Even us lowly HS types were part of the show and
> jumped a swimmer (me) abeam the port side. Maybe we impacted his
> purchasing decisions after all. What sort of helos does the article
> (w/broken link) you're citing refer to?
>
>
>
> --Mike

Michael Wise
August 23rd 05, 10:41 PM
In article >,
"Mike Kanze" > wrote:

> Don't forget that Brunei sits over a large pool of crude and that having a
> guy like the sultan on our side in a very unstable region (then and
> especially now) might be considered by Washington as a plus.

Yeah, I get all that. I just found his military uniform with an
impressive array of ribbons to be comical.

>
> We used to do the same firepower demos for Marcos when he was "president" of
> the Philippines. Detestable little runt, but it preserved Subic/Cubi and
> Clark during a time when we really needed those bases.


I don't recall doing any airshows for him, but my PI visits were at the
tail-end of his "reign." We did do a show for Mohammad Zia ul-Haq
(former president of Pakistan) though.



--Mike

> >
> >> Navy helo pilots plan tactical training in multi-phase exercise
> >> http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=31087
> >>
> >> {EXCERPT} Stars and Stripes, D.C. - 4 hours ago SUBIC BAY, Philippines
> >> US Navy Lt. jg Amy Sadeghzadeh was the first woman to ever fly a Royal
> >> Brunei Air Force helicopter. When......
> >
> >
> > The link is broken (BTW, do copyright laws really prohibit reposting of
> > articles to not-for-profit FYI areas like Usenet?) , but the thought of
> > Brunei having a Royal Air Force brings a chuckle.
> >
> > Just a tiny country with a filthy rich sultan/dictator ruling it. On my
> > 1987 world cruise on CV-63, I remember the captain announcing the Sultan
> > of Brunei was going to be aboard. We all kind of looked at each other
> > thinking the same thing: where the f*ck is Brunei? After consulting an
> > atlas, we then pondered why a major US war ship should care about caring
> > about such a country...until we further read up on the sultan being one
> > of the richest people on earth.
> >
> > He trapped aboard on one of VS-33's Hoovers, and a red carpet was rolled
> > out for him (literally). He wore an olive drab uniform bedecked with
> > ribbons and pins (despite the fact that he was non-military) and every
> > squadron in the CVW participated in an air show for his amusement (or
> > purchasing decisions). Even us lowly HS types were part of the show and
> > jumped a swimmer (me) abeam the port side. Maybe we impacted his
> > purchasing decisions after all. What sort of helos does the article
> > (w/broken link) you're citing refer to?
> >
> >
> >
> > --Mike

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