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Charles Wood
September 6th 05, 11:18 AM
Hello All,
Hoping some experts/old timers here might help me on a basic Radio
Range question.
I understand the principle of merging the A's and the N's to get the
on-beam signal.
I have been told that, while originally this merge created a
continuous, uninterrupted tone except for the station identification
every 30 seconds, that it later evolved to a "Pulsed on-beam tone"
i.e., a series of dashes when flying "on the beam."
Is that information correct? I'm looking for personal flight
experience here, if possible.
Thanks for any help.
Charles Wood
Bob Moore
September 6th 05, 01:50 PM
Charles Wood > wrote
> I have been told that, while originally this merge created a
> continuous, uninterrupted tone except for the station identification
> every 30 seconds, that it later evolved to a "Pulsed on-beam tone"
> i.e., a series of dashes when flying "on the beam."
Not during my instrument training time in 1959. I spent a lot of
time listening to the "Alice" radio range in Alice, TX. Never once
used a radio range after I left Advanced Training at Kingsville, TX.
for anything but ADF'ing.
Now...there were long range navigation systems such as CONSOLAN that
used pulsed dashes and pulsed dots to indicate on which bearing from
the station the receiver was located. It requried a special CONSOLAN
chart for navigation. Perhaps a web search on "CONSOLAN" will turn up
some more information.
Bob Moore
Chris G.
September 6th 05, 07:44 PM
Are there even ANY radio ranges still in existence in the US?
Chris G.
Bob Moore wrote:
> Charles Wood > wrote
>
>>I have been told that, while originally this merge created a
>>continuous, uninterrupted tone except for the station identification
>>every 30 seconds, that it later evolved to a "Pulsed on-beam tone"
>>i.e., a series of dashes when flying "on the beam."
>
>
> Not during my instrument training time in 1959. I spent a lot of
> time listening to the "Alice" radio range in Alice, TX. Never once
> used a radio range after I left Advanced Training at Kingsville, TX.
> for anything but ADF'ing.
>
> Now...there were long range navigation systems such as CONSOLAN that
> used pulsed dashes and pulsed dots to indicate on which bearing from
> the station the receiver was located. It requried a special CONSOLAN
> chart for navigation. Perhaps a web search on "CONSOLAN" will turn up
> some more information.
>
> Bob Moore
Brad Zeigler
September 6th 05, 07:56 PM
"Chris G." <nospam@noemail> wrote in message
eenews.net...
> Are there even ANY radio ranges still in existence in the US?
>
> Chris G.
>
Not for nearly forty years. I'm curious if anyone has made an add-on for
MSFS. It would be quite nostalgic to fly a A-N range approach in a skyhawk.
Icebound
September 6th 05, 10:02 PM
"Chris G." <nospam@noemail> wrote in message
eenews.net...
> Are there even ANY radio ranges still in existence in the US?
>
If there were, the technicians tasked with maintaining them would burn them
down on purpose.
vincent p. norris
September 7th 05, 12:49 AM
>> Are there even ANY radio ranges still in existence in the US?
>>
>If there were, the technicians tasked with maintaining them would burn them
>down on purpose.
I hated those damn ranges when they were all we had; they were always
most difficult to use when we needed them the most. The static was
ear-splitting.
But now, half a century later, I get a nostalgic feeling about them,
and would really love to go fly one again--with no thunderstorms
around, of course.
vince norris
Bushleague
September 8th 05, 01:50 AM
Guys have been watching TCM too much "Texas Clarke in Plane Nine,
I can't land unless you give me the dope"! Newark was a grass strip.
Remember the movie?
Bush
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 06:18:52 -0400, Charles Wood >
wrote:
>Hello All,
>
>Hoping some experts/old timers here might help me on a basic Radio
>Range question.
>
>I understand the principle of merging the A's and the N's to get the
>on-beam signal.
>
>I have been told that, while originally this merge created a
>continuous, uninterrupted tone except for the station identification
>every 30 seconds, that it later evolved to a "Pulsed on-beam tone"
>i.e., a series of dashes when flying "on the beam."
>
>Is that information correct? I'm looking for personal flight
>experience here, if possible.
>
>Thanks for any help.
>
>Charles Wood
vincent p. norris
September 9th 05, 01:08 AM
>Guys have been watching TCM too much "Texas Clarke in Plane Nine,
>I can't land unless you give me the dope"! Newark was a grass strip.
>Remember the movie?
>
>Bush
Gosh, you must be even more ancient than I am! When was that movie
made?
vince norris
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