First 2 1/2 hours PPL(H) today!

[Simon Robbins]

Today I started an intensive PPL(H) course. (I'm going to fly three times a
week, two hours a day.)

I did an hours trial lesson last year in an R22 which I enjoyed immensely
and cemented my determination to learn to fly these bizarre contraptions.

Finally, nearly a year later I've got the finances sorted out and I'm going
for it. (I'm actually supposed to be in the US doing a full CPL course, but
I couldn't sell my house in time so had to drop the place.) So I'm doing
the JAA PPL(H) in the UK as a first step before deciding on my next course
of action.

My nearest school flies Schweizer 300CBs, so I'm doing my PPL(H) on them. I
know everybody's got their views on the pro and cons of this compared to the
R22 but in the end for me it came down to local convenience.

So, it's a fine Oxfordshire autumn morning and I turn up for the first
lesson, hoping to get a second in today if there's an aircraft's available.
The sun's out, wind is 5 kts, and barring a bit of low haze it looks like
it's going to be a nice day.

The instructor does the initial pre-flight, startup and climb-out to the
west as I shadow him on the checklists and controls. We rise through a
turbulent layer (could be a small temperature inversion as the haze is
suddenly clear), and it's over to me for control familiarisation. Cyclic is
instantly familiar, and I do some turns while trying to keep the airspeed
constant by adjusting the nose attitude. Not too bad, but the instructor
knows I've a lot of r/c heli, a few hours of fixed-wing, and a lot of sim
time.

Next I'm given the collective and make the power adjustments as the
instructor demos climbs and descents. Easy enough. Then I've got the
pedals and things are a little more complicated. As the instructor changes
the power I'm having to compensate on the anti-torque, at this point
over-correcting and occasionally getting into a bit of a yawing oscillation,
but I get it under control. I try a bit of control co-ordination. I can see
it's going to be a challenge mastering them all at once, throughout the
flight envelope.

We land, grab a sarnie and de-brief. He's happy, says I did really well. I
didn't find any of it too taxing, and I've still got a grin on my face 20
minutes later.

The 300's free until late afternoon, so we head out again. This time I do
the checklists and startup, and do the pick-up to where we're light on the
skids. The instructor hover-taxies us out across the active to the heli
practice area on the field, and from there takes us west again away from the
airport. This is where it got interesting! I did turns again, this time
handling the collective, pedals and throttle on my own. Happy with that we
then did climbs and descents, again with me do al the attitude, power, trim
inputs, overspeeding the engine a few times! I'm not having trouble with
knowing what inputs I need to make, the difficulty is knowing how much I
need to do and learning the "feel" for the machine. A couple of times I had
to think twice about which way the throttle works, and it caught me out at
least once when I lowered the collective, and the throttle and the engine
rpm increased, and I reacted by twisting the wrong way. No hassle though,
only slightly above the red, and I corrected once I'm mentally kiced myself.

Climbs and descents went well, so on to climbing and descending turns. This
was 2 hours into the days flying and I was starting to feel a bit full.
Still as enthusiastic as hell, but I began to realise the values of breaks
to let it all sink in. Still, I got the hang of them, and got to the point
where I don't need to think attitude, power, trim, and just do it, otherwise
I too busy thinking about the order in which to do things rather than
watching what's actually happening.

Anyway, back to base for a coffee and debrief again. The instructor thinks
I did really well and reckons if I do 4 to 5 hours a week I should breeze
through it. Not sure how much of that is genuine, and how much is
encouragement to a newbie, but I came away pleased with myself.
Unfortunately, I can't go up again until next Wednesday due to other
commitments, and I can't wait!!

Si

[boB]

Simon Robbins wrote:

> Today I started an intensive PPL(H) course. (I'm going to fly three times a
> week, two hours a day.)
>
> I did an hours trial lesson last year in an R22 which I enjoyed immensely
> and cemented my determination to learn to fly these bizarre contraptions.
>
>My nearest school flies Schweizer 300CBs, so I'm doing my PPL(H) on them. I
> know everybody's got their views on the pro and cons of this compared to the
> R22 but in the end for me it came down to local convenience.
>


The 300 is the aircraft I began in. Love it.

> Happy with that we
> then did climbs and descents, again with me do al the attitude, power, trim
> inputs, overspeeding the engine a few times! I'm not having trouble with
> knowing what inputs I need to make, the difficulty is knowing how much I
> need to do and learning the "feel" for the machine.

Thank goodness for the overspeed governor. There were some that did the
same on their first solo. Picking the 300 up and accidentally adding
too much throttle. When the overspeed gov kicks the rpm back down the
student easily got confused and rolled the throttle the wrong way so the
aircraft was kicking around all over the sky. But somehow the ones we
watched were able to get the 300 back on the ground, where the
instructor climbed back in for some more hover work. :)

>A couple of times I had
> to think twice about which way the throttle works, and it caught me out at
> least once when I lowered the collective, and the throttle and the engine
> rpm increased, and I reacted by twisting the wrong way.
>

Many that drive motorcycles had a hard time getting used to the 300's
throttle direction.

> The instructor thinks
> I did really well and reckons if I do 4 to 5 hours a week I should breeze
> through it. Not sure how much of that is genuine, and how much is
> encouragement to a newbie, but I came away pleased with myself.
> Unfortunately, I can't go up again until next Wednesday due to other
> commitments, and I can't wait!!
>
> Si
>
>

Usually an instructor will give some positive feedback to the student
but they would never say that you should "breeze through it" unless they
meant it. So it sounds very good for you.... AAkkk, today is Wednesday,
how did it go??????

--

boB,
SAG 70

U.S. Army Aviation (retired)
Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK)

[Steve R]

I know that it give me fits at first, in the little bit of instruction I've
received in helicopters. Adding throttle is opposite of what it is on a
motorcycle. It's also the wrong hand which I think, actually helped me a
bit. Since I'm not used to operating the throttle with my left hand, the
fact that the throttle's movement was also backwards didn't seem to be as
big a deal as it might have been if I'd had the collective in my right hand.

FWIW! :-)
Fly Safe,
Steve R.


"boB" > wrote in message
.. .
>
> Many that drive motorcycles had a hard time getting used to the 300's
> throttle direction.
>
>
> boB,
> SAG 70
>
> U.S. Army Aviation (retired)
> Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK)

[Simon Robbins]

"Steve R" > wrote in message
...
> I know that it give me fits at first, in the little bit of instruction
I've
> received in helicopters. Adding throttle is opposite of what it is on a
> motorcycle. It's also the wrong hand which I think, actually helped me a
> bit. Since I'm not used to operating the throttle with my left hand, the
> fact that the throttle's movement was also backwards didn't seem to be as
> big a deal as it might have been if I'd had the collective in my right
hand.

Actually, I don't have to think about which way to turn the throttle until
some other effect does the opposite to what I'm expecting with the engine
RPM. It's bloody awkward trying to turn it the wrong way when raising the
collective, so despite my motorcycle history, I'm hoping it wont give me too
much trouble!

Si

[Simon Robbins]

"The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote in
message ...
> So, can we count on a blow-by-blow of your progress like I did with my
> PPH?? That would be very cool to read another's experiences as he
> trains.

Well, I'd like to think I could do that, but to be honest I doubt I'll
remember my lessons in quite as much detail as you did, (i.e. how many
sugars Q has in his coffee, etc!) But I'll try. It was funny when I was
writing that report, I struggled to remember the exact exercises I'd done in
the morning and what in the afternoon. It just all kind of blended
together.

Si

[Simon Robbins]

"boB" > wrote in message
.. .
> Usually an instructor will give some positive feedback to the student
> but they would never say that you should "breeze through it" unless they
> meant it. So it sounds very good for you....

Well, I'm keeping my fingers crossed, but I know there'll be times when
something just doesn't come together and I struggle. I'm doing this for the
challenge, so to be honest, that's what I want!

The hardest part for me is probably going to be doing all the study that JAA
insists on. I'm not good at studying anymore. My day job is all sitting
down, thinking and concentrating hard, so I don't have a lot of mental
energy left at the end of the day. And I hope sooner or later that the
gibberish I hear over the headphones begins to sound legible, cos it doesn't
at the moment!

Si

[Beav]

"The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote in
message ...
> On Thu, 8 Sep 2005 18:50:54 +0100, "Simon Robbins"
> > wrote:
>
>>"The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote in
>>message ...
>>> So, can we count on a blow-by-blow of your progress like I did with my
>>> PPH?? That would be very cool to read another's experiences as he
>>> trains.
>>
>>Well, I'd like to think I could do that, but to be honest I doubt I'll
>>remember my lessons in quite as much detail as you did, (i.e. how many
>>sugars Q has in his coffee, etc!) But I'll try. It was funny when I was
>>writing that report, I struggled to remember the exact exercises I'd done
>>in
>>the morning and what in the afternoon. It just all kind of blended
>>together.
>
> hehe, I'd forgotten about Q's coffee. Dunno where he is anymore.
> Rumor has it he up and quit a few weeks ago.

Probably got an earful off a student that didn't take to him:-))

Don't know for sure 'cuz
> I haven't been at that school since April.

So, you're a "Love 'em and leave 'em" type of guy eh? Get what you can, then
cast 'em aside like so much flotsam. :-))


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[Jim Carriere]

The OTHER Kevin in San Diego wrote:
> I forgot to mention this when I posted my responses last night. Flash
> Cards. They helped me tremendously. I picked up about a thousand 3x5
> cards (Dunno what the metric equivalent is. <grin>) and started
> writing questions on one side and the answers on the back.
>
> I'd have my kids quiz me in the car, at dinner, wherever we were. My
> 10 year old learned almost as much as I did. heheh
>
> I'm well into my 2nd stack of a thousand cards as I do my instrument
> and commercial work...

This is a great way to memorize a lot of facts in a little bit of time.

A dry-erase board complements flash cards as a study tool.
Especially if you need to draw diagrams from memory, practice them on
the dry erase, compare to your text book and see what you got right
and wrong, and repeat as necessary.

[Simon Robbins]

"The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote in
message ...
> Wow! Only need 200 here in the states... I might have to get hold of
> the 2005 regs for your part of the planet and see how they compare to
> ours..

The regs on licences and priveledges are abbreviated here:
www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/LASORS.PDF
Lasors is the bible for UK pilots.

Si

[Beav]

"The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote in
message ...
> On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 16:34:57 +0100, "Beav"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>> hehe, I'd forgotten about Q's coffee. Dunno where he is anymore.
>>> Rumor has it he up and quit a few weeks ago.
>>
>>Probably got an earful off a student that didn't take to him:-))
>
> Dunno the whole story and the bits and pieces of what I am hearing
> seem to indicate there was a falling out with management. (Not
> surprising since that's exactly why I left that school)

I remember you mentioning the odd prob.
>
>> Don't know for sure 'cuz
>>> I haven't been at that school since April.
>>
>>So, you're a "Love 'em and leave 'em" type of guy eh? Get what you can,
>>then
>>cast 'em aside like so much flotsam. :-))
>
> Never "loved" that school and thought it was a good thing, but having
> been out of there for 5 months and training elsewhere, I can say for
> certain the move was a very good choice. (Not to mention the new
> school is a 3 mile drive from work or home and the old as 43 miles
> each way.

That's always a good thing. You can even see the weather from your bed :-)

- plus the chief pilot has something like 20,000 hours in
> helicopters)

He must've used up all his luck by now:)


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>
>

[Beav]

"The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote in
message ...
> On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 01:14:18 +0100, "Beav"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>I remember you mentioning the odd prob.
>
> As soon as I get my refund (Which I *STILL* haven't received) I'll be
> posting all the gory details....

I wait with bated breath.
>
>>That's always a good thing. You can even see the weather from your bed :-)
>
> I have the airport's ATIS on my speed dial. Just press 1# and I'm
> connected.

You're beoming an anorak you are :-)

>
>> - plus the chief pilot has something like 20,000 hours in
>>> helicopters)
>>
>>He must've used up all his luck by now:)
>
> When I got my sign-off to fly their R22s under my ticket, I had to go
> do autos with him. He flew the 1st one with his left hand on the
> cyclic and his right hand on MY collective and did a full down with a
> setdown gentler than my setdowns with power.

*******:-) A friend of mine is an instructor on R22,'s and even with close
to 2000 hours insrucing on them, he still hates doing full down auto's when
he demo's them for students. He's about to convert to Enstroms now though,
and they auto a lot more easily.

>
> The man can fly the hell out of a helicopter (And he's a helluva nice
> guy to boot!)

Looks like a damed good combination.

>
> I've heard rumors he autos his MD500 to the trolley he uses to cart
> the thing in and out of the hangar with. I'd love to see that...

I have another pal in Sweden who used to do the same thing with both his
Bell 47G and his Enstrom. The cart had two lines painted on it (one for the
left skid, the other for the front cross strut) and was never more than half
an inch off being dead centre when he landed. Very impressive. He had a
(home fitted) gas strut that held the door open on his Enstrom and he
unlatched the door as he was auto-ing, then leaned out and just looked at
the cart. Put the ****s up me when I first experienced it, but he was GOOD,
so I got used to it.

Mind you, he's another guy that doesn't fly heli's anymore. He bought a
float plane (lots of places to land in Sweden in one of those) and now
enjoys much cheaper thrills.


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[Simon Robbins]

"The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote in
message ...
> OK, Ya lost me there... The only meaning of anorak I'm aware of is
> something like a jacket.. I guess you could be inferring I'm
> flatulent (i.e a "windbreaker") or I'm taking the wind out of your
> sales.. I wish you Brits would speak English... heehhe

Heh-heh... Got to love the subtleties of the English language as spoken by
the English. Reminds me of when I lived in Canada and my friends would
borrow my UK motorcycle magazines: "I don't get it. They rave about how
good this bike is, then say it's the ********... Doesn't ******** mean
bad?" I gave them the whole treatise on the word and found it's got about
six different meanings, most of which are contextual. But in this case,
you're right: Anorak is a type of jacket. But it's the most unfashionaly
uncool style of jacket you could have. The kind of lightweight thin (often
blue) plastic that folds up into it's own pocket allowing you to carry it
around strapped to your belt for that *really* uncool look. The term's used
to describe someone who's obsessive about their subject, (often one that
bores everyone else within range, like train spotting.) It's most commonly
used in jest, to imply someone just knows that little too much. Someone who
spends all day on their computer (and waffles to anyone who'll listen about
Linux, or memorises aircraft specifications, or football statistics could
all be called Anoraks.

Si

[Shiver]

> The OTHER Kevin in San Diego wrote:

> WTF is train spotting???

Kevin.... I'm shocked

train spotting - standing by train tracks looking at trains

plane spotting - hanging around airports looking at planes

girl spotting - hanging around anywhere looking at chicks

cop spotting - what drug dealers do when they are standing around

[Quilljar]

As I see it, the main problem is similar to 'You say tomahto, and I say
tomayto.'
In the UK we see an enormous amount of US media, films, TV, soaps etc. Our
TV is almost overpowered by it, and we soon get to know American slang, even
if we don't always use it.
On the other hand, the US only screens a very small percentage of UK films
and TV and so our contemporary slang is thus less familiar.

We know what a geek and a dork is, but we call them anoraks. ******** is not
good, but 'The dog's ********' is excellent !

I reckon the Freeflow Bermuda Scenery is the dog's ********!

Cheers,

Quilly

[Quilljar]

>
> Those 2 I know.. But what exactly is a "bollock"?

It's a long time since anyone asked me that!

But it is simply a more colourful word for a testicle.

--
Cheers,

Quilly

Sorry, but an individual reply goes into my spam filter

[Bill Leaming]

On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 17:52:50 +0100, Simon Robbins wrote:

> I remember from when I was a kid, as my dad was a "railway enthusiast",
> "train spotter" being considered a derogatory term if I recall correctly.
> Basically you can buy these little books with all the registration numbers
> of all the UK based trains. People travel the whole country just to track
> down or see by chance any engines they've not seen before. They then
> strike-off that reg in the book. (Yeah, I know. It doesn't make any
> rational sense...) I think plane spotters kind of do the same. Girl
> spotters, well yeah. Again, it only counts if you get their numbers!! :^)

Well, it takes all kinds to make the world interesting. Did you know that
there are actually people who make a hobby out of finding and documenting
navaids? The travel around and track down NDBs, VORs and other such
"interesting" things... <g>

Bill

[Simon Robbins]

"The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote in
message ...
> >train spotting - standing by train tracks looking at trains
>
> Sounds like fun... (uh huh)

I remember from when I was a kid, as my dad was a "railway enthusiast",
"train spotter" being considered a derogatory term if I recall correctly.
Basically you can buy these little books with all the registration numbers
of all the UK based trains. People travel the whole country just to track
down or see by chance any engines they've not seen before. They then
strike-off that reg in the book. (Yeah, I know. It doesn't make any
rational sense...) I think plane spotters kind of do the same. Girl
spotters, well yeah. Again, it only counts if you get their numbers!! :^)

Si

[Beav]

"The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote in
message ...
> On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:49:49 +0100, "Beav"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>> As soon as I get my refund (Which I *STILL* haven't received) I'll be
>>> posting all the gory details....
>>
>>I wait with bated breath.
>
> Like you have any other kind??? hehehe

Garlic tonight:)
>
>>>>That's always a good thing. You can even see the weather from your bed
>>>>:-)
>>>
>>> I have the airport's ATIS on my speed dial. Just press 1# and I'm
>>> connected.
>>
>>You're beoming an anorak you are :-)
>
> OK, Ya lost me there... The only meaning of anorak I'm aware of is
> something like a jacket..

Precisiely that. And people who wear them are usually some kind of nerdy
pencil collecting, speed dial using train spotters:-))

I guess you could be inferring I'm
> flatulent (i.e a "windbreaker") or I'm taking the wind out of your
> sales..

I'm selling nowt this week.

I wish you Brits would speak English... heehhe

I wish you Yanks could SPELL in english:-))) (Sails)

>
>>*******:-) A friend of mine is an instructor on R22,'s and even with close
>>to 2000 hours insrucing on them, he still hates doing full down auto's
>>when
>>he demo's them for students. He's about to convert to Enstroms now though,
>>and they auto a lot more easily.
>
> I don't care for autos in the R22 either. Things happen way too quick
> in 'em. Now the R44 is another story entirely....

He (my pal) was out in a 44 this week. Not doing the flying, but just
enjoying the ride. He thinks it's a world away from his 22.

>
>>> The man can fly the hell out of a helicopter (And he's a helluva nice
>>> guy to boot!)
>>
>>Looks like a damed good combination.
>
> Yep. Gonna get my R44 sign-off this weekend with him. Once that's
> done, I've promised my kids a ride for the $1000 lunch.. Looking
> forward to flying wit him 'cuz he's such a wealth of knowledge it's
> not even funny. I'd love to work for/with him once I get my CFI...

Get your request in now, or some other bugger will get in there before you.

>
>>I have another pal in Sweden who used to do the same thing with both his
>>Bell 47G and his Enstrom. The cart had two lines painted on it (one for
>>the
>>left skid, the other for the front cross strut) and was never more than
>>half
>>an inch off being dead centre when he landed. Very impressive. He had a
>>(home fitted) gas strut that held the door open on his Enstrom and he
>>unlatched the door as he was auto-ing, then leaned out and just looked at
>>the cart. Put the ****s up me when I first experienced it, but he was
>>GOOD,
>>so I got used to it.
>
> That'd be cool to see in either case, much cooler to be IN the thing
> when it was done. I wonder if Rocky can do that. :)

I wouldn't doubt it for a minute. As for it being cool, it is, but only
after you get the idea it's not all going to end in tears.

>
>>Mind you, he's another guy that doesn't fly heli's anymore. He bought a
>>float plane (lots of places to land in Sweden in one of those) and now
>>enjoys much cheaper thrills.
>
> I can't afford even the cheap thrills... Although I'd love to have a
> Lancair.. :)

I can't tell you which model of plank he has, but it'll be getting plenty of
use, I know THAT much at least. Too many aircraft spend too much time sat
sitting, but his never do.


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[Beav]

"Simon Robbins" > wrote in message
...
> "The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote in
> message ...
>> OK, Ya lost me there... The only meaning of anorak I'm aware of is
>> something like a jacket.. I guess you could be inferring I'm
>> flatulent (i.e a "windbreaker") or I'm taking the wind out of your
>> sales.. I wish you Brits would speak English... heehhe
>
> Heh-heh... Got to love the subtleties of the English language as spoken
> by
> the English. Reminds me of when I lived in Canada and my friends would
> borrow my UK motorcycle magazines: "I don't get it. They rave about how
> good this bike is, then say it's the ********... Doesn't ******** mean
> bad?"

It's "The ********" when it's good. Something that's "********" on it's own
is bad, but something that's "THE ********" or "the dog's ********" is good.
A LOAD of bollcks is te same a "it's bull****".

Here endeth the first English lesson, which was actually the dogs goolies of
a lesson, even if I do say so myself:-)


I gave them the whole treatise on the word and found it's got about
> six different meanings, most of which are contextual. But in this case,
> you're right: Anorak is a type of jacket. But it's the most unfashionaly
> uncool style of jacket you could have. The kind of lightweight thin (often
> blue) plastic that folds up into it's own pocket allowing you to carry it
> around strapped to your belt for that *really* uncool look.

The "Dwayne Dibbly" look. "Dwayne" is the Duke or Dork and stars in the
occasional episode of "Red Dwarf". His anorack is to DIE for, as are his
teeth. (You need to be a fan of course)

The term's used
> to describe someone who's obsessive about their subject, (often one that
> bores everyone else within range, like train spotting.) It's most
> commonly
> used in jest, to imply someone just knows that little too much. Someone
> who
> spends all day on their computer (and waffles to anyone who'll listen
> about
> Linux, or memorises aircraft specifications, or football statistics could
> all be called Anoraks.

Indeed they could (are:-)


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[Beav]

"The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote in
message ...
> On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:31:15 +0100, "Simon Robbins"
> > wrote:
>
>>"The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote in
>>message ...
>>> OK, Ya lost me there... The only meaning of anorak I'm aware of is
>>> something like a jacket.. I guess you could be inferring I'm
>>> flatulent (i.e a "windbreaker") or I'm taking the wind out of your
>>> sales.. I wish you Brits would speak English... heehhe
>>
>>Heh-heh... Got to love the subtleties of the English language as spoken
>>by
>>the English. Reminds me of when I lived in Canada and my friends would
>>borrow my UK motorcycle magazines: "I don't get it. They rave about how
>>good this bike is, then say it's the ********... Doesn't ******** mean
>>bad?" I gave them the whole treatise on the word and found it's got about
>>six different meanings, most of which are contextual. But in this case,
>>you're right: Anorak is a type of jacket. But it's the most unfashionaly
>>uncool style of jacket you could have. The kind of lightweight thin (often
>>blue) plastic that folds up into it's own pocket allowing you to carry it
>>around strapped to your belt for that *really* uncool look. The term's
>>used
>>to describe someone who's obsessive about their subject, (often one that
>>bores everyone else within range, like train spotting.) It's most
>>commonly
>>used in jest, to imply someone just knows that little too much. Someone
>>who
>>spends all day on their computer (and waffles to anyone who'll listen
>>about
>>Linux, or memorises aircraft specifications, or football statistics could
>>all be called Anoraks.
>
> OK, now that begs the question.. (and shows my apparent ignorance)
>
> WTF is train spotting???

Ahhh, well there you go. Train spotting is an art, only to be undertaken
whilst wearing an anorack and carrying a thermos flask and a plastic
Tupperware box full of cheese sandwiches. And a pickled onion.

It requires GREAT skill and fortitude as it entails spending endless hours
standing (real train spotters never SIT) at the side of a well travelled
railway track (or better still, at a train siding (depot to you blokes),
taking note of the locomotive's number as it rumbles, speeds or slitheres
by. This number is then checked against the numbers in the Train Spotter
Reference Book, where once found, the number is actually UNDERLINED in the
book. This can then be used to demonstrate to other train spotters that you
spotted NUMBER 432186. That can be worth at least 2 pints down the boozer. A
good train spoter will have at least 50 books all underlined in neat
script:-)

They are NOT obsessed:-)))


>
> Couldn't Beav have just said "you're a dork" or "you need to get out
> more often"?

"Dork" just doesn't cut it Kev. Sory, but anyone using a speed dialer is FAR
FAR beyond the Dork stage:-)


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> On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:20:23 +0000 (UTC), "Quilljar"
> > wrote:
>
>>As I see it, the main problem is similar to 'You say tomahto, and I say
>>tomayto.'
>>In the UK we see an enormous amount of US media, films, TV, soaps etc. Our
>>TV is almost overpowered by it, and we soon get to know American slang,
>>even
>>if we don't always use it.
>> On the other hand, the US only screens a very small percentage of UK
>> films
>>and TV and so our contemporary slang is thus less familiar.
>>
>>We know what a geek and a dork is, but we call them anoraks. ******** is
>>not
>>good, but 'The dog's ********' is excellent !
>>
>>I reckon the Freeflow Bermuda Scenery is the dog's ********!
>
> Those 2 I know.. But what exactly is a "bollock"?

A bollock is one of those two lumps hanging in a sac about 14 inches from
the end of a dick. I though everyone knew that:)

>
> Now if we Yanks could get you Redcoats to stop putting that bloody "U"
> in color... :)

And if only we Brits could get you Yanks to put a ****ing "S" at the end of
"Math", to give it's CORRECT diminution of the word "MathematicS" :-))
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> On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 03:15:57 GMT, Shiver >
> wrote:
>
>>> The OTHER Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>>
>>> WTF is train spotting???
>>
>>Kevin.... I'm shocked
>
> I'm not surprised. :)
>
>>train spotting - standing by train tracks looking at trains
>
> Sounds like fun... (uh huh)
>
>>plane spotting - hanging around airports looking at planes
>
> Do airshows count? I can't recall ever having just hung out at the
> airport looking at planes...
>
>>girl spotting - hanging around anywhere looking at chicks
>
> Pretty much every day.. I'm a guy.. hello???
>
>>cop spotting - what drug dealers do when they are standing around
>
> so.. would spot spotting be looking at dogs named Spot? hehehe

Nah, that'd be "zit" spotting.


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> Now the plane sits and gets washed every other weekend by the
> line handlers.. He hasn't flown in almost a year.. What a waste of
> an aircraft..

Sounds like my motorcycle. It needs about a grand spending on it.: major
service, set of sticky tyres, new chain and sprockets, plus road tax (like
the US license sticker but a good deal more expensive, naturally). Of
course at the moment I measure everything from essential vehicle maintenance
to chocolate bars in terms of fractions of flying hour costs, so it's just
sitting there unloved, but shiny.

Si

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> On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 02:20:28 +0100, "Beav"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Ahhh, well there you go. Train spotting is an art, only to be undertaken
>>whilst wearing an anorack and carrying a thermos flask and a plastic
>>Tupperware box full of cheese sandwiches. And a pickled onion.
>
> This just REEKS of personal experience..

Are you kidding? I was an absessive train spotter when I was a kid. I lived
close by a MASSIVE siding, complete with all the maintenance sheds. (This
was in the steam days too) A day at the sheds was better than a day at
Disneyland for a train lover. All the building were destroyed when I was a
kid though, along with most of the local stations so it was a very short
obsession. Things don't get much better than riding on the footplate of "The
Royal Scotsman" when you're a steam driven kid.
>
>>It requires GREAT skill and fortitude as it entails spending endless hours
>>standing (real train spotters never SIT) at the side of a well travelled
>>railway track (or better still, at a train siding (depot to you blokes),
>>taking note of the locomotive's number as it rumbles, speeds or slitheres
>>by. This number is then checked against the numbers in the Train Spotter
>>Reference Book, where once found, the number is actually UNDERLINED in the
>>book. This can then be used to demonstrate to other train spotters that
>>you
>>spotted NUMBER 432186. That can be worth at least 2 pints down the boozer.
>>A
>>good train spoter will have at least 50 books all underlined in neat
>>script:-)
>
> I think I'd rather visit the dentist...

These days, me too and I'm **** scared of them.

>
>>They are NOT obsessed:-)))
>
> Oh, not at all..

It's more a way of life:))

>
>>"Dork" just doesn't cut it Kev. Sory, but anyone using a speed dialer is
>>FAR
>>FAR beyond the Dork stage:-)
>
> Yeah, well I'm a dork with a pilot's license then. hehehe

Yeah, but have you got your pencils in a row? :-)


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> On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 02:13:51 +0100, "Beav"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>It's "The ********" when it's good. Something that's "********" on it's
>>own
>>is bad, but something that's "THE ********" or "the dog's ********" is
>>good.
>>A LOAD of bollcks is te same a "it's bull****".
>
> So ********, is like the hip gangsta wannabes of the 80s using "bad"
> to be good or (get this!) bad...

Yeah, like something that's "hot" is "cool", something that's "good" is
"bad" and it's even gooder when it's BAD. Man:-). You learned all that
reverse crap from us y'know.

>
>>Here endeth the first English lesson, which was actually the dogs goolies
>>of
>>a lesson, even if I do say so myself:-)
>
> I'm glad someone does.. hehe
>
>>The "Dwayne Dibbly" look. "Dwayne" is the Duke or Dork and stars in the
>>occasional episode of "Red Dwarf". His anorack is to DIE for, as are his
>>teeth. (You need to be a fan of course)
>
> I haven't had the pelasure of watch and episode myself. I
> occasionally see it "airing" on my cable system's BBC channel, but
> never stop to check it out.

I believe there's a Yank version now, but it WON'T be anytihng like the
original. I mean how can you Yanks get your heads round a cast of characters
that consist of "Dave Lister", a toilet cleaner who eats chicken vindaloo
from an old sock and thinks he's a guitar god, "Arnold Rimmer" a vending
machine "tech" that doesn't know his arse from his elbow, but thinks he's
gods gift to quantum mechanics (he's also a hologram as he died in an
radiation leak he caused) and he can't touch anything or BE touched). The
other characters are "Kryton" a series 4000 'roid with the wisdom of the
universe programmed into him and "The Cat", who's a cat at the end of 3
million years of evolution in Red Dwarf's hold (Red Dwarf's the name of the
spaceship), and occasionally "Holly", the on-bard computer with an IQ of
6000. (Actually it's 6, but that's by the by:-)

It's THE cult TV show to watch and it's VERY cleverly written, as there's a
lot going on that requires a fairly open mind.

I do stop for the occasional Benny Hill
> or Kenny Everet show tho.

Oh please. If Benny Hill's face appeared on my TV, the next thing to appear
on it would be a steel toe-capped boot thrwon with every ounce of strength I
could muster.

>
>> The term's used
>>> to describe someone who's obsessive about their subject, (often one that
>>> bores everyone else within range, like train spotting.) It's most
>>> commonly
>>> used in jest, to imply someone just knows that little too much. Someone
>>> who
>>> spends all day on their computer (and waffles to anyone who'll listen
>>> about
>>> Linux, or memorises aircraft specifications, or football statistics
>>> could
>>> all be called Anoraks.
>>
>>Indeed they could (are:-)
>
> I have a neighbor like that (Except the football part. I doubt he
> knows what a football looks like...)

I doubt I would either. I believe I saw one once at school, but that was as
I was ducking out of the lesson for a ciggie. Once seen, never kicked.


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> On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 02:23:11 +0100, "Beav"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>A bollock is one of those two lumps hanging in a sac about 14 inches from
>>the end of a dick. I though everyone knew that:)
>
> I think you're exagerating now...
>
>>And if only we Brits could get you Yanks to put a ****ing "S" at the end
>>of
>>"Math", to give it's CORRECT diminution of the word "MathematicS" :-))
>>Humour me Kev:-))
>
> Is a ****ing S kinda like a metric S in that it's slightly more
> important than an imperial S? :)

You can use any, so long as you use one of them :))

And it's Aluminium too:-))))


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> On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 14:24:20 +0100, "Beav"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Are you kidding? I was an absessive train spotter when I was a kid. I
>>lived
>>close by a MASSIVE siding, complete with all the maintenance sheds. (This
>>was in the steam days too) A day at the sheds was better than a day at
>>Disneyland for a train lover. All the building were destroyed when I was a
>>kid though, along with most of the local stations so it was a very short
>>obsession. Things don't get much better than riding on the footplate of
>>"The
>>Royal Scotsman" when you're a steam driven kid.
>
> What an anorak... hehehe

Donkey jackets back then. (we're talking 45 years ago)
>
>
>>> I think I'd rather visit the dentist...
>>
>>These days, me too and I'm **** scared of them.
>
> I don't care for the dentist in general, but my dentist is rather cute
> and well endowed so it's not all bad. :)

I have a well blessed dentist in Sweden, and a very nice dental assistant
over here, but the Brit dentist's a bloke. Nice enough guy though and he's
helped me with this dentist phobia thing. He still nows better than come
anywhere NEAR me with a needle in his hand though.

>
>>It's more a way of life:))
>
> I'll take your word for it.

More correctly, it WAS.
>
>>>
>>>>"Dork" just doesn't cut it Kev. Sory, but anyone using a speed dialer is
>>>>FAR
>>>>FAR beyond the Dork stage:-)
>>>
>>> Yeah, well I'm a dork with a pilot's license then. hehehe
>>
>>Yeah, but have you got your pencils in a row? :-)
>
> haha, if you saw my desk here at home (or at work) you'd wonder why
> you ever asked that... This place is a ****-hole - BUT - I know where
> everything is...

Just like my brother. Not like me. I'm a little on the obsessive side when
it comes to things being in their rightful place and having things cleaner
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> On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 14:36:20 +0100, "Beav"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Yeah, like something that's "hot" is "cool", something that's "good" is
>>"bad" and it's even gooder when it's BAD. Man:-). You learned all that
>>reverse crap from us y'know.
>
> It's too bad we didn't learn how to spell properly as well. heehh

It's a forlorn hpe that things'll change too:-))
>
>>I believe there's a Yank version now, but it WON'T be anytihng like the
>>original. I mean how can you Yanks get your heads round a cast of
>>characters
>>that consist of "Dave Lister", a toilet cleaner who eats chicken vindaloo
>>from an old sock and thinks he's a guitar god, "Arnold Rimmer" a vending
>>machine "tech" that doesn't know his arse from his elbow, but thinks he's
>>gods gift to quantum mechanics (he's also a hologram as he died in an
>>radiation leak he caused) and he can't touch anything or BE touched). The
>>other characters are "Kryton" a series 4000 'roid with the wisdom of the
>>universe programmed into him and "The Cat", who's a cat at the end of 3
>>million years of evolution in Red Dwarf's hold (Red Dwarf's the name of
>>the
>>spaceship), and occasionally "Holly", the on-bard computer with an IQ of
>>6000. (Actually it's 6, but that's by the by:-)
>
> Sounds a bit like Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy".

Better, but with a similar snese of the ridiculous. One TV prog from the
states WAS (what appeared to be) a half arsed attempt at Red Dwarf, but it
didn't work too well. That was "Lexx" with that lip enhanced tart who's name
escapes me. She was a sex slave in the program.

Loved the books,
> the movie sucked rocks.

I heard that, but I never saw it. I believe it's on one of the movie
channels this month, so I'll look out for it and see if it's as bad as
reports say it is.

>
>>It's THE cult TV show to watch and it's VERY cleverly written, as there's
>>a
>>lot going on that requires a fairly open mind.
>
> Well, I don't watch a lot of television and those few shows I do watch
> are usually documentaries or other such "educational" shows. (he one
> on building a bridge across the Bering Strait was pretty cool)

I'm a bit of an anorak when it comes to those shows too. Massive Engines,
Mega Structures, etc. Disovery Wings ain't too bad either when something new
airs.

>
>>I do stop for the occasional Benny Hill
>>> or Kenny Everet show tho.
>>
>>Oh please. If Benny Hill's face appeared on my TV, the next thing to
>>appear
>>on it would be a steel toe-capped boot thrwon with every ounce of strength
>>I
>>could muster.
>
> Most sane people would just change the channel.. hehehe

Not enough violence involved doing that. I can't beleive his shows still go
out on air y'know. He was Ok(ish) "back then", but slapstick comedy died a
well deserved death over here, thank ****.


>
>>> I have a neighbor like that (Except the football part. I doubt he
>>> knows what a football looks like...)
>>
>>I doubt I would either. I believe I saw one once at school, but that was
>>as
>>I was ducking out of the lesson for a ciggie. Once seen, never kicked.
>
> I know quite a few dogs like that.. Those little yappie kind that
> just NEED a boot planted in their ass...

At least I don't have to dress up in wimmins tights and wear a **** load of
protective gear. Oops, as you were, I'm bike rider:-))


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> "The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote in
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>> Now the plane sits and gets washed every other weekend by the
>> line handlers.. He hasn't flown in almost a year.. What a waste of
>> an aircraft..
>
> Sounds like my motorcycle. It needs about a grand spending on it.: major
> service, set of sticky tyres, new chain and sprockets, plus road tax (like
> the US license sticker but a good deal more expensive, naturally).

Isn't it just! (Don't mention gas prices Si, I couldn't handle another
thread on that subject:-)

I just put new tyres on my Zed 1000. Conti Race Attack's they are, and
they're sticky as buggery. I'm off to a meeting tomorrow which'll give me a
chance to give 'em a good scrubbing in.

Of
> course at the moment I measure everything from essential vehicle
> maintenance
> to chocolate bars in terms of fractions of flying hour costs, so it's just
> sitting there unloved, but shiny.

Mine's siting in the garage panting in anticipation of the ru out tomorrow.
Well it COULD be panting from the caning it got today, I'm not exactly sure.
The Zed is a superb bike for hooning around on and it's bloody addictive
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...
> Mine's siting in the garage panting in anticipation of the ru out
tomorrow.
> Well it COULD be panting from the caning it got today, I'm not exactly
sure.
> The Zed is a superb bike for hooning around on and it's bloody addictive
> too.

Yeah, a couple of mates of mine had classic Z1000s. I can appreciate the
classic beauty of the design, but I'm more of a rocket boy myself. Mine's a
Ducati 748 with 853 big-bore and top-end blueprint. (Hence the
ultra-expemsive service I can no longer afford to pay for!)

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"Beav" > wrote in message
...
> Are you kidding? I was an absessive train spotter when I was a kid. I
lived
> close by a MASSIVE siding, complete with all the maintenance sheds. (This
> was in the steam days too) A day at the sheds was better than a day at
> Disneyland for a train lover. All the building were destroyed when I was a
> kid though, along with most of the local stations so it was a very short
> obsession. Things don't get much better than riding on the footplate of
"The
> Royal Scotsman" when you're a steam driven kid.

I spent most of my childhood being dragged around from Portsmouth to
Doncaster, Newcastle to Crewe, all over the place by my dad in search of
elusive engine numbers. I enjoyed it, as it was a day out with my dad,
which looking back seemed quite rare. I loved the adventure of the travel,
going somewhere I'd never been for a day with binoculars and a camera. My
dad grew up in the steam age, and worked in his teens on the footplate of
steam trains coaling the furnaces, before he joined the RAF. So I guess I
can excuse his anorakism!

Si

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> On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 01:05:24 +0100, "Beav"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Donkey jackets back then. (we're talking 45 years ago)
>
> Damn.. You must remember when the Dead Sea was merely ill... when
> the Great Wall of China was merely so-so.. :)

I used to have the occasional cup of tea with Methusela too:-))
>
>>I have a well blessed dentist in Sweden, and a very nice dental assistant
>>over here, but the Brit dentist's a bloke. Nice enough guy though and he's
>>helped me with this dentist phobia thing. He still nows better than come
>>anywhere NEAR me with a needle in his hand though.
>
> Ooh.. The swedish dentist... ehehhe

The perfect foil for my Swedish wife.

>
>
>>Just like my brother. Not like me. I'm a little on the obsessive side when
>>it comes to things being in their rightful place and having things cleaner
>>than they were when new:-)
>
> My office is a pig-sty. My kitchen is as organized as can be. Same
> with my garage. No room in there for anything, but everything is
> where it's supposed to be and very well organized.

My son asks me where "such and such" is and I say, "Back right hand corner
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"Simon Robbins" > wrote in message
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> "Beav" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Are you kidding? I was an absessive train spotter when I was a kid. I
> lived
>> close by a MASSIVE siding, complete with all the maintenance sheds. (This
>> was in the steam days too) A day at the sheds was better than a day at
>> Disneyland for a train lover. All the building were destroyed when I was
>> a
>> kid though, along with most of the local stations so it was a very short
>> obsession. Things don't get much better than riding on the footplate of
> "The
>> Royal Scotsman" when you're a steam driven kid.
>
> I spent most of my childhood being dragged around from Portsmouth to
> Doncaster, Newcastle to Crewe, all over the place by my dad in search of
> elusive engine numbers. I enjoyed it, as it was a day out with my dad,
> which looking back seemed quite rare. I loved the adventure of the
> travel,
> going somewhere I'd never been for a day with binoculars and a camera. My
> dad grew up in the steam age, and worked in his teens on the footplate of
> steam trains coaling the furnaces, before he joined the RAF. So I guess I
> can excuse his anorakism!

Steam trains always draw huge crowds even now, so "Anorakism" is alive and
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> On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 01:12:51 +0100, "Beav"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>It's a forlorn hpe that things'll change too:-))
>
> Old dogs.. new tricks....

And in my case, a new dog this week. (We rescued one from the vet's needle)
>
>>Better, but with a similar snese of the ridiculous. One TV prog from the
>>states WAS (what appeared to be) a half arsed attempt at Red Dwarf, but it
>>didn't work too well. That was "Lexx" with that lip enhanced tart who's
>>name
>>escapes me. She was a sex slave in the program.
>
> I can think of several dozen lip enhanced tarts I'd like to have as my
> sex slave... Hell, I can think of a bunch more with OEM lips that can
> have that same honor..oops.. honoUr hehe

I think her name was Xenia something. Weird looking tart I have to say.
Seeburg, that was her last name. (it just popped up)
>
>>I heard that, but I never saw it. I believe it's on one of the movie
>>channels this month, so I'll look out for it and see if it's as bad as
>>reports say it is.
>
> I made the mistake of actually paying to see it in a theatre...

That bad eh?

>
>>I'm a bit of an anorak when it comes to those shows too. Massive Engines,
>>Mega Structures, etc. Disovery Wings ain't too bad either when something
>>new
>>airs.
>
> We don't get Discovery Wings anymore. Cable company changed it to The
> Military Channel. Watching a show on he development of the Mig 21
> right now..

We're still "Winging", but it's getting to the point where every show's a
repeat.

>
>>Not enough violence involved doing that. I can't beleive his shows still
>>go
>>out on air y'know. He was Ok(ish) "back then", but slapstick comedy died a
>>well deserved death over here, thank ****.
>
> I liked the ladies in their lingerie.. :)

You are forgiven:-)

>
>>At least I don't have to dress up in wimmins tights and wear a **** load
>>of
>>protective gear. Oops, as you were, I'm bike rider:-))
>
> As in the pedal kind?

Yeah, right. I can just imagine me pedalling a bike around!!

I know you right a street-fighter of sort...
> The visual of you in tights and elbow pads gives me the willies...

I've got my VN 750 and my Z1000, so of COURSE I need to wear ladies
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"Simon Robbins" > wrote in message
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> "Beav" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Not enough violence involved doing that. I can't beleive his shows still
> go
>> out on air y'know. He was Ok(ish) "back then", but slapstick comedy died
>> a
>> well deserved death over here, thank ****.
>
> Reminds of a few years back when I was camping at Loudon for the AMA
> Superbike race weekend. An American guy starts telling me how much he
> loves
> British TV, and one show in particular, except he can't remember the name.
> It was about a shop, and there was a woman in it who kept on about her
> pussy... "Are you being served"!!!! God, I thought those tapes had been
> burnt years ago.

They should've been burnt before anyone put them on the air. That was THE
biggest load of crap I've ever seen.

And this was a young guy asking me if I knew when the next
> series was out as all he was getting were re-runs! He was dead shocked
> when
> I told him they were twenty years old. That's one thing I noticed about
> my
> North American friends was that they find it impossible to date British TV
> culture.

Last night, someone in another place (America) commented that he was under
the impression that Britain doesn't see temperatures above 70 degrees, even
during the height of summer. NOTHING surprises me about American's views of
anything outside of America unless they've been outside of America. Then
they see the light:-)

>
> A few of my friends watched Red Dwarf. It's got a small cult following in
> NA. Same for Blackadder, but I think that's even more English than Red
> Dwarf. Still, I guess turnip jokes are universal..

"Bladder" is excellent. Better even than Fawlty Towers which was good first
time around, but got old VERY qiuckly. I can watch all the Blackadder series
as many times as they air. As for the turnips jokes... Classic:-)

Baldrick should get an Oscar:-)

Actually, Tony Robinson's on the box right now doing a "Da Vinci Code"
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> > We don't get Discovery Wings anymore. Cable company changed it to The
> > Military Channel. Watching a show on he development of the Mig 21
> > right now..
>
> We're still "Winging", but it's getting to the point where every show's a
> repeat.

I have great fun every time Sk phone up and ask if I want to renew my
subscription, since I cancelled it about a year ago. I love all the
documentary channels, but I don't need another season of the same shows
recut and re-editted. 3 months with satellite tv and I could probably pass
a "Nazi history" exam or get a job as a shark expert...

I take great joy in telling Sky jus how rubbish their 200 odd channels are!
(I do miss Wings though.)

Si

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"Beav" > wrote in message
...
> Last night, someone in another place (America) commented that he was under
> the impression that Britain doesn't see temperatures above 70 degrees,
even
> during the height of summer. NOTHING surprises me about American's views
of
> anything outside of America unless they've been outside of America. Then
> they see the light:-)

I'm not surprised. I was at a US Superbike race a few years back and one of
the commentators was English. It was raining (as it seems to do every year
in New Hampshire) and the English commentator was jokingly apologising for
bringing the weather with him. That's bloody typical I thought. When I
brought a friend over for the World Superbike at Donington he was shocked to
experience California like sun. We don't do our climate any favours. I
flew today (report later) and it was bright, sunny, calm wind. A perfect
day. (Oh, and I gave up going to New Hamshire for the racing (before I moved
back to the UK), it rained 3 years on the trot and they wouldn't race in
conditions the British series would take in its stride.)

> Actually, Tony Robinson's on the box right now doing a "Da Vinci Code"
> destruction:-)

Yeah, I saw that a couple of months ago. I'm completely blaise (sp?) about
Dan Brown's book. I read all the stuff he plagerised for his book years ago,
and also the stuff disproving and debunking a lot of the theories his book
relies on. I wont be watching he movie!

Si

[Beav]

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> On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 16:49:01 +0100, "Beav"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>I used to have the occasional cup of tea with Methusela too:-))
>
> Yeah? How's he doin' these days?

He's dong well, but his Dad's not as good as he could be. I think a little
exercise s called for.

>
>
>>My son asks me where "such and such" is and I say, "Back right hand corner
>>of the third drawer down in the 2nd cabinet, where it always is" :-)
>
> Yep.. Wife asked me for something the other day. "Third pile on the
> left, about halfway down, right under the pink paper" Damned if that
> wasn't what she was looking for.. ehehh

hehhee. My missus is currently nursing a broken foot, so I've quickly had to
learn where everything in the house is. MY places I know, but the rest of
the house is hers and I don't even know where the bread is (was). She
mentioned something about a washing machine tonight, said it was in the
kitchen somewhere, but I'm not even looking for it:-)


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> "Beav" > wrote in message
> ...
>> > We don't get Discovery Wings anymore. Cable company changed it to The
>> > Military Channel. Watching a show on he development of the Mig 21
>> > right now..
>>
>> We're still "Winging", but it's getting to the point where every show's a
>> repeat.
>
> I have great fun every time Sk phone up and ask if I want to renew my
> subscription, since I cancelled it about a year ago. I love all the
> documentary channels, but I don't need another season of the same shows
> recut and re-editted. 3 months with satellite tv and I could probably
> pass
> a "Nazi history" exam or get a job as a shark expert...

That's a ****er isnt't it, when a "new" show os advertised only to discover
that it's just a re-titled re-gurgitation. maybe that's why it's called the
Discovery channel.
>
> I take great joy in telling Sky jus how rubbish their 200 odd channels
> are!
> (I do miss Wings though.)

Aerobatics: Pushing the limits. that starts at 1o'clock tonight/this
morning. I'll be watching that then. I don't *think* I've seen it, but all
will be revealed:-)


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> On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 16:56:56 +0100, "Beav"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>And in my case, a new dog this week. (We rescued one from the vet's
>>needle)
>
> Been thinking about surprising the kids with a pooch... But then
> common sense gets the better of me and I realize it'll be dad picking
> the **** up out of the back yard.

I'm married and her indoors wanted the first dog, so she got that job. she
wanted the new one too, so she get's THAT job too:-)
>
>>I think her name was Xenia something. Weird looking tart I have to say.
>>Seeburg, that was her last name. (it just popped up)
>
> I'll have to goolge for her to satisfy my curiosity..

Weird looking woman that. VERY weird around the lips. Looks like someone
shoved two lengths of rubber inside 'em. Great legs though:)



>
>>That bad eh?
>
> As with most books made into movies, it just left a lot to be
> desired..

I read "Timeline" (Micheal Crichton) last week and as I was reading it, I
was thinking "I've read this book before" but I knew I hadn't. Then it
dawned on me. I'd read a resume of the film earlier last week and it was
showing again later. I finished the book the day the film aired again, so I
watched it. I almost wish I hadn't bothered. The film was good, but it
missed a LOT of "the good stuff" from the book.

>
>>We're still "Winging", but it's getting to the point where every show's a
>>repeat.
>
> Yeah, that was getting old.. Military Channel is pretty cool. Got a
> nasty cold so I didn't go to work today.. Been lying in bed watching
> a documentary on Wernher von Braun and his work with the V2 and
> running NASA..

Better than watching Sesame Street:-))
>
>
>>Yeah, right. I can just imagine me pedalling a bike around!!
>
> In your wimmin's tights no less!

Oh yes. Gotta keep them spindly legs warm and i goves the hospital staff
something else to laugh at:-)
>
>> I know you right a street-fighter of sort...
>>> The visual of you in tights and elbow pads gives me the willies...
>>
>>I've got my VN 750 and my Z1000, so of COURSE I need to wear ladies
>>tights:)Elbow pads are optional:)
>
> I'd have figured you for a knee pad guy.. ehheh

Knee pads are for those who can't get their knees down. Scars: The mark of a
man:-))


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"The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote in
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> On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 16:56:56 +0100, "Beav"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>I think her name was Xenia something. Weird looking tart I have to say.
>>Seeburg, that was her last name. (it just popped up)
>
> Yeah, she's odd looking.. Says she played "interstellar love slave
> Xev" on some show called Lexx. Her mouth looks like it needs a hook
> in it.
>
> Looks ok from the neck down tho...

Every sliver lining has a cloud though. She's a lizard in the show (in human
form), 'til she gets ****ed off, then her tongue... well you really don't
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"Simon Robbins" > wrote in message
...
> "Beav" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Last night, someone in another place (America) commented that he was
>> under
>> the impression that Britain doesn't see temperatures above 70 degrees,
> even
>> during the height of summer. NOTHING surprises me about American's views
> of
>> anything outside of America unless they've been outside of America. Then
>> they see the light:-)
>
> I'm not surprised. I was at a US Superbike race a few years back and one
> of
> the commentators was English. It was raining (as it seems to do every
> year
> in New Hampshire) and the English commentator was jokingly apologising for
> bringing the weather with him. That's bloody typical I thought.

Every ****er wants to be a comedian. Commentators are the worst too.

When I
> brought a friend over for the World Superbike at Donington he was shocked
> to
> experience California like sun. We don't do our climate any favours.

Very true, and I'd rather have our climate than ny other. At least we don't
get hurricanes or huge tornado's every summer, or the beginnings of an ice
age every winter. Our biggest fear is ****ing leaves on the train tracks:-))

I
> flew today (report later) and it was bright, sunny, calm wind. A perfect
> day. (Oh, and I gave up going to New Hamshire for the racing (before I
> moved
> back to the UK), it rained 3 years on the trot and they wouldn't race in
> conditions the British series would take in its stride.)

Wuss's :-))

>
>> Actually, Tony Robinson's on the box right now doing a "Da Vinci Code"
>> destruction:-)
>
> Yeah, I saw that a couple of months ago. I'm completely blaise (sp?)
> about
> Dan Brown's book.

Well it's total ******** innit? entertaining i it's won way, but not even
close to being factual.

I read all the stuff he plagerised for his book years ago,
> and also the stuff disproving and debunking a lot of the theories his book
> relies on. I wont be watching he movie!

Nor me, but I did make the mistake of reading his other book "Demons and
Angels" It could've been the forst draft of "Da Vinci". Same "hero", and all
the people he encounters have similar links to others in the book as they do
in Da Vince. Good looking tart with a father who's top bollock at some
organisation who gets chopped, that sort of thing. Not at all original.

That's the last Dan Brown book I'll bother with.


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[Beav]

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> "Beav" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Mine's siting in the garage panting in anticipation of the ru out
> tomorrow.
>> Well it COULD be panting from the caning it got today, I'm not exactly
> sure.
>> The Zed is a superb bike for hooning around on and it's bloody addictive
>> too.
>
> Yeah, a couple of mates of mine had classic Z1000s. I can appreciate the
> classic beauty of the design, but I'm more of a rocket boy myself. Mine's
> a
> Ducati 748 with 853 big-bore and top-end blueprint. (Hence the
> ultra-expemsive service I can no longer afford to pay for!)

Mine isn't the old Zed though, it's the new one with the streetfighter style
and the ZX-9R motor. About 120ish bhp and an easy 150mph when you get down
behind the screen. Rip your head off if you don't:-) I even fitted an after
market screen with an aeroblade thing on it to help lift the blast. Worked
perfectly too as it still looks mean as **** but isn't so neck breakingly
windy.


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