which headset??? david clark.......

[Hercul]

hi all,


im student pilot and im looking for headset! my pilot school offer
sennheiser hme100 but i think ill buy david clark!
i find david clark modem h10-60 at
http://www.acespilotshop.com/pilot-supplies/aviation-headsets/aviation-headsets.htm
344$ + shipping, are that model and price ok?? what u can suggest?


regards!!

[Hercul]

Hercul wrote:
> hi all,
>
>
> im student pilot and im looking for headset! my pilot school offer
> sennheiser hme100 but i think ill buy david clark!
> i find david clark modem h10-60 at
> http://www.acespilotshop.com/pilot-supplies/aviation-headsets/aviation-headsets.htm
> 344$ + shipping, are that model and price ok?? what u can suggest?
>
>
> regards!!


btw, there is one more interesting model h10-66!???!

[Jon Kraus]

spinnerspilotshop.com has them for $305 verses the $344 at ACE's. I
haven't found anyone that can beat their prices and their service is
excvellent too. Not a paid consultant but a satified customer for
several years now.

I have the H20-10XL's and I love them. Good luck!!

Jon Kraus
'79 Mooney 201
443H @ TYQ

Hercul wrote:

> hi all,
>
>
> im student pilot and im looking for headset! my pilot school offer
> sennheiser hme100 but i think ill buy david clark!
> i find david clark modem h10-60 at
> http://www.acespilotshop.com/pilot-supplies/aviation-headsets/aviation-headsets.htm
> 344$ + shipping, are that model and price ok?? what u can suggest?
>
>
> regards!!
>
>

[Michelle P]

I have a pair of 20-10XL's and love them. I also have a pair of 20-10's
and two pair of 10-13.4's
David Clark is my only choice. Lightspeed also makes decent headsets.
I believe the h10-60 are for Helos only. Are your flying rotary wing or
fixed wing?
Michelle

Hercul wrote:

>hi all,
>
>
>im student pilot and im looking for headset! my pilot school offer
>sennheiser hme100 but i think ill buy david clark!
>i find david clark modem h10-60 at
>http://www.acespilotshop.com/pilot-supplies/aviation-headsets/aviation-headsets.htm
>344$ + shipping, are that model and price ok?? what u can suggest?
>
>
>regards!!
>
>
>
>

[john smith]

> I believe the h10-60 are for Helos only. Are your flying rotary wing or
> fixed wing?
> Michelle

I thought that, too, when I first saw the posting.
I went to the DC homepage to check.
10-60's come in three flavors now. Fixed, coiled cord helo, and dual
impedence.

[Chris G.]

http://www.pacific-coast-avionics.com is also a good shop! I live about
30 mins from them and have been very happy with their service and prices.

Chris


Hercul wrote:
> hi all,
>
>
> im student pilot and im looking for headset! my pilot school offer
> sennheiser hme100 but i think ill buy david clark!
> i find david clark modem h10-60 at
> http://www.acespilotshop.com/pilot-supplies/aviation-headsets/aviation-headsets.htm
> 344$ + shipping, are that model and price ok?? what u can suggest?
>
>
> regards!!
>
>

[Thomas Borchert]

Hercul,

> are that model and price ok??
>

Actually, I don't think any DC models are ok, especially not regarding
price, but also regarding comfort. Have you tried the headset for a
while? Do you think it is comfortable? Have you wondered why you should
pay almost twice as much as for the Sennheiser?

IMHO you should look into an active headset, which can be had in the
price range you mention. Look into the Lightspeeds.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

[Hercul]

Jon Kraus wrote:
> spinnerspilotshop.com has them for $305 verses the $344 at ACE's. I
> haven't found anyone that can beat their prices and their service is
> excvellent too. Not a paid consultant but a satified customer for
> several years now.
>
> I have the H20-10XL's and I love them. Good luck!!

great prices, but they dont ship worldwide, im from croatia, europe
:(((((((((

[[email protected]]

Hercul
I'd wait for a while to see if you are going to continue flying or not.
Why spend money for a headset and later have to sell it for half price?
I'd find the lightest set I could and the lowest price for the time
being. You may find someone who is doing just as I said and you can buy
a set cheaply! I think the Clarks are too heavy for me. I've used a
Planatronics set with custom ear pieces for nearly 30 years in both
airplanes and helicopters. My helmet has earphones and a mic for use
when I am crop spraying and have a radio. I've also got a couple of the
earmuff type headsets but I don't use them for myself and let my PAX
use them.
Ol shy & Bashful
Hercul wrote:
> hi all,
>
>
> im student pilot and im looking for headset! my pilot school offer
> sennheiser hme100 but i think ill buy david clark!
> i find david clark modem h10-60 at
> http://www.acespilotshop.com/pilot-supplies/aviation-headsets/aviation-headsets.htm
> 344$ + shipping, are that model and price ok?? what u can suggest?
>
>
> regards!!

[Michelle P]

Thomas,
I would agree that the 10- series is not the most comfortable. However
the 20- series are quite comfortable.
Dc's are pricey but they have the best service in the business in my
opinion.
Michelle (owner of five DC headsets)

Thomas Borchert wrote:

>Hercul,
>
>
>
>>are that model and price ok??
>>
>>
>>
>
>Actually, I don't think any DC models are ok, especially not regarding
>price, but also regarding comfort. Have you tried the headset for a
>while? Do you think it is comfortable? Have you wondered why you should
>pay almost twice as much as for the Sennheiser?
>
>IMHO you should look into an active headset, which can be had in the
>price range you mention. Look into the Lightspeeds.
>
>
>

[Mike W.]

H10-60 comes with a cord that can be changed: straight or coiled for fixed
wing, or coiled helo cord. H10-66 is the dual-impedance model.
I have a H10-60, the only thing I don't like about it is the plug on the
detachable cord is long enough (strain relief) that it sometimes catches on
your jacket collar or shoulder belt when you try to look left. I have gotten
used to it, but it can be really distracting at first.
"john smith" > wrote in message
...
> > I believe the h10-60 are for Helos only. Are your flying rotary wing or
> > fixed wing?
> > Michelle
>
> I thought that, too, when I first saw the posting.
> I went to the DC homepage to check.
> 10-60's come in three flavors now. Fixed, coiled cord helo, and dual
> impedence.

[Thomas Borchert]

Michelle,

> Dc's are pricey but they have the best service in the business in my
> opinion.
> Michelle (owner of five DC headsets)
>

Well, that might make you kind of biased ;-) I am, too, I have a
Lightspeed. And, also from what I read here, I can't really see where
their service is less than DC's. I truly think the DCs are way
overpriced - you pay for the name. I know they will probably hold up
better to abuse for those of us who think they should treat a
500-$-plus investment like sh*t, but heck, you can buy a headset and
another replacement headset from most manufacturers for what you pay
for a single DC.

DC's ANR is clearly inferior to most "new-generation" (NG) headsets.
Most heads (mine, for sure) consider DCs less comfortable than NG
headsets - they aren't called David Clamps for nothing. Their feature
set is lacking, too (think music and cell phone inputs). For all that,
you pay a price way above most comparable headsets from other brands -
and you get a service that every NG headset manufacturer has to and
does match, if he wants to stay in business, since it is the gold
standard of the industry. So, in all, I just can't see the value
proposition.

Also, I wouldn't want to be seen dead wearing that puke green. But
that's a matter of taste ;-)

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

[Michelle P]

THomas,
Have you tried the 20- series. They are not clamps. the 10- series was.
David clark focuses on making the best headset they can. Not ones with
cute features.
Pure, basic, simple, bullet proof headsets.
How is DC's latest ENR headset inferior to say Lightspeed current offerings?
Michelle

Thomas Borchert wrote:

>Michelle,
>
>
>
>>Dc's are pricey but they have the best service in the business in my
>>opinion.
>>Michelle (owner of five DC headsets)
>>
>>
>>
>
>Well, that might make you kind of biased ;-) I am, too, I have a
>Lightspeed. And, also from what I read here, I can't really see where
>their service is less than DC's. I truly think the DCs are way
>overpriced - you pay for the name. I know they will probably hold up
>better to abuse for those of us who think they should treat a
>500-$-plus investment like sh*t, but heck, you can buy a headset and
>another replacement headset from most manufacturers for what you pay
>for a single DC.
>
>DC's ANR is clearly inferior to most "new-generation" (NG) headsets.
>Most heads (mine, for sure) consider DCs less comfortable than NG
>headsets - they aren't called David Clamps for nothing. Their feature
>set is lacking, too (think music and cell phone inputs). For all that,
>you pay a price way above most comparable headsets from other brands -
>and you get a service that every NG headset manufacturer has to and
>does match, if he wants to stay in business, since it is the gold
>standard of the industry. So, in all, I just can't see the value
>proposition.
>
>Also, I wouldn't want to be seen dead wearing that puke green. But
>that's a matter of taste ;-)
>
>
>

[Thomas Borchert]

Michelle,

> Have you tried the 20- series.

Yes. But head shapes vary, it's an individual thing.

> How is DC's latest ENR headset inferior to say Lightspeed current offerings?

Have you compared both in an airplane environment? I have. Other reviewers
have, too.


--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

[john smith]

Thomas, I find it interesting that you do not consider Lightspeeds
overpriced, given their inferior construction and high "fall-apart" rate.
Many pilots I know who own Lightspeeds have not abused them, the units
just break apart from average, light useage.
In 25 years, my DC's have never come loose, let alone fall apart or have
parts break.

[Thomas Borchert]

John,

> Thomas, I find it interesting that you do not consider Lightspeeds
> overpriced, given their inferior construction and high "fall-apart" rate.
>

Well, do you actually KNOW that rate? Do you know their sales volume
compared to complaints you read here? Do you think they, having been an
upstart in this business only 8 years ago, would still be around, let alone
have become as big as they have, if they didn't make money in spite of
having a very generous repair and return policy?

That said, construction has improved over time - ask Jay. THAT said, I
still own and use my first-gen 20K, which needed new plugs once - that's
it. I bought it in 1997 for something like 450 $, IIRC. Yes, I DO think
that's an excellent value.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

[Michelle P]

Thomas,
I can tell you my 20-10XL's are "Professional Grade". I use mine 5-7
hours a day 5 days a week. I have over 600 hours on them in the last six
months. All I do is swap my rechargeable battery pack about every 10 days.

Michelle

Thomas Borchert wrote:

>John,
>
>
>
>>Thomas, I find it interesting that you do not consider Lightspeeds
>>overpriced, given their inferior construction and high "fall-apart" rate.
>>
>>
>>
>
>Well, do you actually KNOW that rate? Do you know their sales volume
>compared to complaints you read here? Do you think they, having been an
>upstart in this business only 8 years ago, would still be around, let alone
>have become as big as they have, if they didn't make money in spite of
>having a very generous repair and return policy?
>
>That said, construction has improved over time - ask Jay. THAT said, I
>still own and use my first-gen 20K, which needed new plugs once - that's
>it. I bought it in 1997 for something like 450 $, IIRC. Yes, I DO think
>that's an excellent value.
>
>
>

[Hercul]

tnx to all for answers!