Airbus A380 whistleblower article

[Guy Elden Jr]

I'd certainly be a little wary of the new plane after reading this, but
honestly, this does not surprise me in the least. The aviation industry
is concerned with money first, safety a far distant second.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q121218EB

[John T]

"Guy Elden Jr" > wrote in message
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> I'd certainly be a little wary of the new plane after reading this,
> but honestly, this does not surprise me in the least. The aviation
> industry is concerned with money first, safety a far distant second.

As long as we're supporting the theory of conspiracies (rooted in money),
consider he's an American working on a European airliner considered by many
to be a Boeing-killer. No possibility of ulterior motive there, right? :)

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[Larry Dighera]

On 2 Oct 2005 11:31:21 -0700, "Guy Elden Jr" >
wrote in . com>::

>I'd certainly be a little wary of the new plane after reading this, ...
>

Quote from :
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-whistleblower27sep27,0,7486292.story?track=tottext

By Peter Pae, Times Staff Writer:
"Airbus, owned by Dutch and British companies, surpassed Boeing in
2003 as the world's largest maker of airliners."

After reading the above LA Times quote, I'm a little wary of Mr. Pae's
facts. Shouldn't that be "French" rather than "Dutch"?

[James Robinson]

Larry Dighera > wrote:

> Quote:
>
> By Peter Pae, Times Staff Writer:
> "Airbus, owned by Dutch and British companies, surpassed Boeing in
> 2003 as the world's largest maker of airliners."
>
> After reading the above LA Times quote, I'm a little wary of Mr. Pae's
> facts. Shouldn't that be "French" rather than "Dutch"?

German, British, French, and Spanish, plus some generally traded shares. No
Dutch, unless they own some of the common shares.

[Larry Dighera]

On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 19:07:15 -0500, James Robinson >
wrote in 2>::

>Larry Dighera > wrote:
>
>> Quote:
>>
>> By Peter Pae, Times Staff Writer:
>> "Airbus, owned by Dutch and British companies, surpassed Boeing in
>> 2003 as the world's largest maker of airliners."
>>
>> After reading the above LA Times quote, I'm a little wary of Mr. Pae's
>> facts. Shouldn't that be "French" rather than "Dutch"?
>
>German, British, French, and Spanish, plus some generally traded shares. No
>Dutch, unless they own some of the common shares.

Right.

Oh well, I guess we all misspeak at times. US Supreme Court Chief
Justice, the reputed brilliant, John Roberts certainly did while
speaking after being sworn in:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/09/29/text_of_the_swearing_in_of_john_roberts_as_chief_j ustice/?page=3

The process we have just completed epitomizes the separation of
powers that is enshrined in our Constitution.

My nomination was announced some 10 weeks ago here in the White
House, the home of the executive branch. This morning, further up
Pennsylvania Avenue, it was approved in the Capitol, the home of
the executive branch.

And, tomorrow, I will go into the Supreme Court building to join
my colleagues, the home of the judicial branch, to undertake my
duties.

[Michelle P]

This type of design may or may not be a problem depending on the fail
safe mode of the valves. Most pressurization valves I know of are are
spring loaded shut and require electrical and/or pneumatic power to be
opened.
Michelle

Guy Elden Jr wrote:

>I'd certainly be a little wary of the new plane after reading this, but
>honestly, this does not surprise me in the least. The aviation industry
>is concerned with money first, safety a far distant second.
>
>http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q121218EB
>
>
>

[Montblack]

("Larry Dighera" wrote)
> Oh well, I guess we all misspeak at times. US Supreme Court Chief
> Justice, the reputed brilliant, John Roberts certainly did while
> speaking after being sworn in:


The one I'll alsways remember:

Hubert (Horatio) Humphrey
(Mayor of Mpls, MN Senator, VP under LBJ, 1968 Presidential candidate, MN
Senator again)

Humphrey's 1978 funeral - President Jimmy Carter's eulogy. Ooops!!
"I am speaking of a great man who should have been President and would have
been one of the greatest Presidents in history, Hubert Horatio Hornblower."


Montblack

[Chris]

"James Robinson" > wrote in message
. 97.142...
> Larry Dighera > wrote:
>
>> Quote:
>>
>> By Peter Pae, Times Staff Writer:
>> "Airbus, owned by Dutch and British companies, surpassed Boeing in
>> 2003 as the world's largest maker of airliners."
>>
>> After reading the above LA Times quote, I'm a little wary of Mr. Pae's
>> facts. Shouldn't that be "French" rather than "Dutch"?
>
> German, British, French, and Spanish, plus some generally traded shares.
> No
> Dutch, unless they own some of the common shares.

A pathetic mistake by a journalist.

The Airbus majority shareholder company EADS NV has a Dutch addess viz

European Aeronautic Defence and Space Company EADS N.V.
Le Carré · Beechavenue 130-132 · 1119 PR Schiphol Rijk · The Netherlands.

Airbus itself is 80% owned by EADS and 20% by BAE Systems.

it took 2 minutes to find that out.

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John T wrote:
> "Guy Elden Jr" > wrote in message
> oups.com
> >
> > I'd certainly be a little wary of the new plane after reading this,
> > but honestly, this does not surprise me in the least. The aviation
> > industry is concerned with money first, safety a far distant second.
>
> As long as we're supporting the theory of conspiracies (rooted in money),
> consider he's an American working on a European airliner considered by many
> to be a Boeing-killer. No possibility of ulterior motive there, right? :)

Except that the pressurization system overall is being done by Hamliton
Sundstrand, part of UTC which si quite an American company, and Boeing
is apparently interested in using the parts this guy is blowing the
whistle on. Plus it's pretty clear this guy is digging himself a very
deep hole in terms of his own future. None of which proves that he is
right, not a crank, etc, but it does seem to reduce the possibilities.

-cwk.

[Stefan]

wrote:

> Except that the pressurization system overall is being done by Hamliton
> Sundstrand, part of UTC which si quite an American company, and Boeing

Ah! That's it! This American company deliberately sells broken parts to
Airbus to ruin their reputation! And I'm sure Boeing is paying them to
do so! :-)

Stefan

[Ron Natalie]

Montblack wrote:

>
> Humphrey's 1978 funeral - President Jimmy Carter's eulogy. Ooops!!
> "I am speaking of a great man who should have been President and would
> have been one of the greatest Presidents in history, Hubert Horatio
> Hornblower."

Nice try, but it wasn't Humphrey's funeral, although people frequently
cliam it was. It was during his acceptance speech at the Democtratic
National Convention in August of 1980. I remember watching that speech
live. Humphrey died over two years earlier.

[Montblack]

("Ron Natalie" wrote)
> Nice try, but it wasn't Humphrey's funeral, although people frequently
> cliam it was. It was during his acceptance speech at the Democtratic
> National Convention in August of 1980. I remember watching that speech
> live. Humphrey died over two years earlier.


Agreed.

<http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/08/18/politics/main225899.shtml>


Montblack

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Montblack wrote:
> ("Larry Dighera" wrote)
> > Oh well, I guess we all misspeak at times. US Supreme Court Chief
> > Justice, the reputed brilliant, John Roberts certainly did while
> > speaking after being sworn in:
>
>
> The one I'll alsways remember:
>

I am a jelly donut.