EAA Board Of Directors (Here We Go Again)

[RST Engineering]

I sort of feel like the Harold Stassen of the EAA election process, but here
we go again.

In 1997, I ran for the EAA Board Of Directors and got some 700 of you to
email me your proxies. The vote was 700 to 35,000 for the proxies that EAA
held for the current board member candidate. (I ran in 1988 with the same
results.)

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and
expecting different results. If things hadn't changed, I wouldn't have run
again.

However, EAA has expanded their board to an additional 11 new board members,
so I'm not running against an incumbent or an insider. I may just have a
chance if EAA wants to truly open up the process to the rest of the world.

Stand by for a request from you to nominate me to this board. Although all
it takes is 25 current EAA member signatures, a few thousand wouldn't hurt
at all in the process.

Bless you if you can help.


Jim

[Ron Natalie]

RST Engineering wrote:
hance if EAA wants to truly open up the process to the rest of the world.
>
> Stand by for a request from you to nominate me to this board. Although all
> it takes is 25 current EAA member signatures, a few thousand wouldn't hurt
> at all in the process.
>

You can count me and Margy in.
I don't suppose the EAA permits cumulative voting?

[Morgans]

"RST Engineering" > wrote in message
...
> I sort of feel like the Harold Stassen of the EAA election process, but
here
> we go again.
>
> In 1997, I ran for the EAA Board Of Directors and got some 700 of you to
> email me your proxies. The vote was 700 to 35,000 for the proxies that
EAA
> held for the current board member candidate. (I ran in 1988 with the same
> results.)
>
> The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and
> expecting different results. If things hadn't changed, I wouldn't have
run
> again.
>
> However, EAA has expanded their board to an additional 11 new board
members,
> so I'm not running against an incumbent or an insider. I may just have a
> chance if EAA wants to truly open up the process to the rest of the world.
>
> Stand by for a request from you to nominate me to this board. Although
all
> it takes is 25 current EAA member signatures, a few thousand wouldn't hurt
> at all in the process.
>
> Bless you if you can help.
>
>
> Jim

Fire away! My scanner is on stand-by!
--
Jim in NC

[G.R. Patterson III]

RST Engineering wrote:
>
> Stand by for a request from you to nominate me to this board.

Roger.

George Patterson
The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.

[Morgans]

"G.R. Patterson III" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> RST Engineering wrote:
> >
> > Stand by for a request from you to nominate me to this board.
>
> Roger.
>
> George Patterson
*****************

Roger, Roger? Surely, you could have done better than that?
--
Jim (stuck in the70's) in NC

[[email protected]]

You can count me in too. My renewal for the Poberancy trust fund comes
due next month and I really am debating not to fund their lavish
lifestyle under the cover of helping the TRUE experimental builders. We
need more people like you to talk some sense to these guys. Have ya
ever noticed how many times Pob's pic appears in each issue while
pressing stuff never gets too much attention?? One case in mind, if one
builds a experimental plane with a powerplant thats not a Lyc getting
insurance is a real fight.The whole idea of the EAA years ago was to
propagate cutting edge stuff, not quench it..Go for it Jim..
Ben Haaas N801BH

[Gig Giacona]

"RST Engineering" > wrote in message
...
>I sort of feel like the Harold Stassen of the EAA election process, but
>here we go again.
>
> In 1997, I ran for the EAA Board Of Directors and got some 700 of you to
> email me your proxies. The vote was 700 to 35,000 for the proxies that
> EAA held for the current board member candidate. (I ran in 1988 with the
> same results.)
>
> The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and
> expecting different results. If things hadn't changed, I wouldn't have
> run again.
>
> However, EAA has expanded their board to an additional 11 new board
> members, so I'm not running against an incumbent or an insider. I may
> just have a chance if EAA wants to truly open up the process to the rest
> of the world.
>
> Stand by for a request from you to nominate me to this board. Although
> all it takes is 25 current EAA member signatures, a few thousand wouldn't
> hurt at all in the process.
>
> Bless you if you can help.
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>

Count me in.

[Teranews]

Standing by... Al


"RST Engineering" > wrote in message
...
>I sort of feel like the Harold Stassen of the EAA election process, but
>here we go again.
>
> In 1997, I ran for the EAA Board Of Directors and got some 700 of you to
> email me your proxies. The vote was 700 to 35,000 for the proxies that
> EAA held for the current board member candidate. (I ran in 1988 with the
> same results.)
>
> The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and
> expecting different results. If things hadn't changed, I wouldn't have
> run again.
>
> However, EAA has expanded their board to an additional 11 new board
> members, so I'm not running against an incumbent or an insider. I may
> just have a chance if EAA wants to truly open up the process to the rest
> of the world.
>
> Stand by for a request from you to nominate me to this board. Although
> all it takes is 25 current EAA member signatures, a few thousand wouldn't
> hurt at all in the process.
>
> Bless you if you can help.
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>

[Roger]

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 03:32:08 GMT, "G.R. Patterson III"
> wrote:

>
>
>RST Engineering wrote:
>>
>> Stand by for a request from you to nominate me to this board.
>
>Roger.

What?

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
>
>George Patterson
> The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.

[G.R. Patterson III]

Roger wrote:
>
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 03:32:08 GMT, "G.R. Patterson III"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >RST Engineering wrote:
> >>
> >> Stand by for a request from you to nominate me to this board.
> >
> >Roger.
>
> What?

Forget it. William Ko took care of it.

George Patterson
The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.

[Bob Fry]

I'm in and have already emailed you.

However, just why do many think EAA is unresponsive and the top few
(one?) living lavishly? This is a genuine question of curiosity, not
trying to provoke a heated thread though I expect one will result
anyway.

I'm curious because first, didn't EAA do some good with the Sport
Aviation stuff? I'm assuming they were the main force behind it, I
haven't seen AOPA promote it much. And second, don't all the alphabet
groups get gripes? There's always the whining about Phil Boyer's
lavish lifestyle, and so on.

[Morgans]

"Bob Fry" > wrote in message
...
> I'm in and have already emailed you.
>
> However, just why do many think EAA is unresponsive and the top few
> (one?) living lavishly?

Although this was not aimed at me, I'll give you what everyone has. (my
opinion)

My main bitch about the EAA is not the lifestyle of the Ceo's, ect. There
will always be wealth at the top, and many other large groups prbably have
Ceo's with more wealth. My problem is the lack of concentration on the
homebuilder.

> I'm curious because first, didn't EAA do some good with the Sport
> Aviation stuff?

Yep, they done good, but perhaps, perhaps not, they could have done better.
Given that this is the FAA they were dealing with, who knows. Seems like
they could have gotten the weight limits high enough that the C-150/152
could have squeezed under the limit. Night VFR with an additional sign-off
would have been nice, too.

I'll still support anyone of fairly good character (I guess you will squeeze
in, Jim ;-) ) from our grassroots group that wants to get the "common man"
back into the power structure of the EAA.
--
Jim in NC

[TaxSrv]

Seems to me EAA cannot afford to support homebuilding/restoring as its
primary activity. It's made itself into a commercial money machine,
and not doing too well at that. Significant net losses in recent
years, per their IRS From 990. They now hide losses from members by
consolidating the income statement with the Foundation, which is
good-faith contributor money and bequests in wills for the museum and
education programs.

Membership has been flat for some years now, and may now be declining.
# of chapters declining, with their relevance declining as internet
email lists now provide better builder support than any chapter of old
duffs who no longer fly. % of dues spent on member services has been
on the decline. There is a necessary disclosure in the IRS forms
about who it is who controls the printing company which prints the
magazine, someone long associated with EAA. And what's the deal with
Zaug's, who has been the food vendor at the convention for as long as
I can remember? Are they getting the best deal for these services?
And they continue the big lie about 750,000 attendance at the
conventions. And the huge amount of money spent on the Wright Flyer
was an embarrassing flop. And Poberezny's compensation does not
appear to be performance based, just same as last year plus a good
COLA.

I am still a member. Only EAA can keep FAA from imposing stricter
rules on homebuilts, with onerous examples in some other countries.
But the financials suggest to me they gotta get their act together
soon, or the house of cards....

Fred F.

[Bob Moore]

" > wrote

> Ben Haaas N801BH

Ben, were you ever in the Navy at NAS Norfolk?
I used to fly R/C models with Ben back in the
early '60s, back when "reeds" ruled.

Bob Moore

[Shelly]

Count on me for a vote (or teo or three)!
Shelly

[Bob Chilcoat]

I'm with you, Jim.

--
Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)

"Shelly" > wrote in message
...
>
> Count on me for a vote (or teo or three)!
> Shelly

[jls]

"Bob Chilcoat" > wrote in message
...
> I'm with you, Jim.
>
> --
> Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)
>
> "Shelly" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Count on me for a vote (or teo or three)!
> > Shelly
>
>

Not shirking my duty to vote here, so you'll have to give me a few days to
pay dues. Matter of fact, I refused to pay dues this year because some
anonymous person told us about how EAA leadership had appeared to have
rigged a contest so that the award, an O-235 Lycoming, had gone to an EAA
director needing one for his project. (Smarmy in and of itself.) But in
order for him to win and thereby shoot two other contestants down, the
deadline for the competition was inexplicably extended so that a book of
questionable provenance could be published. I. e., it looked like a common,
crooked, smelly insider deal to me. Knowing some of those people it piXXed
me off so bad that I thought, well, hell, I'll boycott them this year and
attend Lumberton and maybe Alliance and Brodhead.

[Dave Butler]

Hey Jim,

Someone suggested putting the petition on a web site so we could download it and
print it, instead of you emailing them all over the place. Any chance that will
happen? If so, I'll do my best to circulate it.

Also, how about a brief explanation of why you are running and what your
platform is, since the people I will be talking to probably don't know you from
rec.aviation.*

I'm with you...

Dave

[RST Engineering]

Absolutely. That's a hell of an idea. I'll have it up for download along
with a resume and platform by 2000Z today, Thursday the 20th of January
2005.

Email comments on the resume and platform encouraged. I get my best ideas
from you guys.

www.rstengineering.com/eaabod

Jim


"Dave Butler" > wrote in message
news:1106237056.670790@sj-nntpcache-3...
> Hey Jim,
>
> Someone suggested putting the petition on a web site so we could download
> it and print it, instead of you emailing them all over the place. Any
> chance that will happen? If so, I'll do my best to circulate it.
>
> Also, how about a brief explanation of why you are running and what your
> platform is, since the people I will be talking to probably don't know you
> from rec.aviation.*
>
> I'm with you...
>
> Dave
>

[RST Engineering]

That's a hell of a good idea. I'll have them both up by 2000Z today, 20
January 2005.

I'd appreciate email feedback on how to make the resume and platform better.
I get my best ideas from you folks.

www.rstengineering.com/eaabod

Jim



"Dave Butler" > wrote in message
news:1106237056.670790@sj-nntpcache-3...
> Hey Jim,
>
> Someone suggested putting the petition on a web site so we could download
> it and print it
>
> Also, how about a brief explanation of why you are running and what your
> platform is,

[RST Engineering]

Posted 1745Z www.rstengineering.com/eaabod all in .pdf format.

Jim


"RST Engineering" > wrote in message
...

> Absolutely. That's a hell of an idea. I'll have it up for download along
> with a resume and platform by 2000Z today, Thursday the 20th of January
> 2005.

[Dave Butler]

RST Engineering wrote:
> Posted 1745Z www.rstengineering.com/eaabod all in .pdf format.
>

Nicely done, Jim, and duly captured. Now to fulfill my part of the bargain...

Dave

[Dave Butler]

RST Engineering wrote:
> Posted 1745Z www.rstengineering.com/eaabod all in .pdf format.
>

I went back through your postings and I can't find the date you need to have the
sigs. I know you said it before...

Maybe you could add a sentence about that.

I suppose the snail-mail address to send the wet signatures is on the RST web
site somewhere.

Dave

[RST Engineering]

Readme.pdf file uploading....



"Dave Butler" > wrote in message
news:1106249761.687581@sj-nntpcache-5...
> RST Engineering wrote:
>> Posted 1745Z www.rstengineering.com/eaabod all in .pdf format.
>>
>
> I went back through your postings and I can't find the date you need to
> have the sigs. I know you said it before...
>
> Maybe you could add a sentence about that.
>
> I suppose the snail-mail address to send the wet signatures is on the RST
> web site somewhere.
>
> Dave

[RST Engineering]

Uploaded...

Jim


"RST Engineering" > wrote in message
...


> Readme.pdf file uploading....
>
>
>
>> I suppose the snail-mail address to send the wet signatures is on the RST
>> web site somewhere.
>>
>> Dave
>
>

[Jon Woellhaf]

Jim,

<Jim'sNomPet.pdf> doesn't open for me in Acrobat but the other three do. Any
thoughts as to why?

Jon

[Morgans]

"Jon Woellhaf" > wrote in message
...
> Jim,
>
> <Jim'sNomPet.pdf> doesn't open for me in Acrobat but the other three do.
Any
> thoughts as to why?
>
> Jon

I hate "me too" posts, but... Me Too
--
Jim in NC

[RST Engineering]

No, but I'll go resave it under another name without the ' punctuation and a
regulation 8x3 and see what that does.

Jim



"Morgans" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Jon Woellhaf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Jim,
>>
>> <Jim'sNomPet.pdf> doesn't open for me in Acrobat but the other three do.
> Any
>> thoughts as to why?
>>
>> Jon
>
> I hate "me too" posts, but... Me Too
> --
> Jim in NC
>
>

[RST Engineering]

Try it now www.rstengineering.com/eaabod jweaapet.pdf

Please report results...

Jim


"RST Engineering" > wrote in message
...

> No, but I'll go resave it under another name without the ' punctuation and
> a regulation 8x3 and see what that does.
>
> Jim

[Jon Woellhaf]

"RST Engineering" > wrote in message
...
> Try it now www.rstengineering.com/eaabod jweaapet.pdf
>
> Please report results...

Works fine for me now.

[Morgans]

"Jon Woellhaf" > wrote in message
...
> "RST Engineering" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Try it now www.rstengineering.com/eaabod jweaapet.pdf
> >
> > Please report results...
>
> Works fine for me now.
>
Geez......Me too! :-)
--
Jim in NC

[RST Engineering]

Geez... I win again {;-)

Jim



">> Works fine for me now.
>>
> Geez......Me too! :-)
> --
> Jim in NC
>
>

[gbwiz]

There is a necessary disclosure in the IRS forms
about who it is who controls the printing company which prints the
magazine, someone long associated with EAA.

<EAA has just changed its printer. Tough decision after so long with
one company. But evidence that EAA is indeed looking out for the best
deal.>