More Jet Blue Photos

[Jay Honeck]

Here are some more pix of the Jet Blue landing incident, sent in by a
fellow with "connections" to the investigation...

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/nose_gear_incident.htm
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, "Jay Honeck" > said:
>Here are some more pix of the Jet Blue landing incident, sent in by a
>fellow with "connections" to the investigation...
>
>http://www.alexisparkinn.com/nose_gear_incident.htm

His "connection" being that he reads AvWeb too?

--
Paul Tomblin > http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
"I love the smell of burning components in the morning.
Smells like victory." (The ******* Operator From Hell)

[Mike Adams]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote:

> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/nose_gear_incident.htm

Hey Jay,

Great pictures but your intro should say it was an A320 not an A340!

Mike

[Kev]

Jay Honeck wrote:
> Here are some more pix of the Jet Blue landing incident, sent in by a
> fellow with "connections" to the investigation...
>
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/nose_gear_incident.htm

Uh, not quite.

Most, if not all, of those pictures are from a different, though very
similar, Jet Blue incident.

Note the water next to the runway, the ice on the runway, and the man
in cold-weather gear... at LAX??? Nope. Not to mention that the name
of the plane is different from the LAX incident.

Cheers,
Kev

[Ron Garret]

In article om>,
"Kev" > wrote:

> Jay Honeck wrote:
> > Here are some more pix of the Jet Blue landing incident, sent in by a
> > fellow with "connections" to the investigation...
> >
> > http://www.alexisparkinn.com/nose_gear_incident.htm
>
> Uh, not quite.
>
> Most, if not all, of those pictures are from a different, though very
> similar, Jet Blue incident.
>
> Note the water next to the runway, the ice on the runway, and the man
> in cold-weather gear... at LAX??? Nope. Not to mention that the name
> of the plane is different from the LAX incident.

To say nothing of the extra tire.

rg

[George Patterson]

Kev wrote:

> Uh, not quite.

Yes, quite.

> Most, if not all, of those pictures are from a different, though very
> similar, Jet Blue incident.

All photos are from the September 21 landing at LAX.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?J13564CEB

> Note the water next to the runway, the ice on the runway, and the man
> in cold-weather gear... at LAX??? Nope. Not to mention that the name
> of the plane is different from the LAX incident.

That's foam on the runway, and the man is wearing a light windbreaker with a
hood. It's typically windy at airports. Can't say that I noticed the name on the
9/21 plane, but the number on the gear door is the same.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

[Jay Beckman]

"George Patterson" > wrote in message
news:IcI0f.474$026.37@trndny09...
> Kev wrote:
>
>> Uh, not quite.
>
> Yes, quite.
>
>> Most, if not all, of those pictures are from a different, though very
>> similar, Jet Blue incident.
>
> All photos are from the September 21 landing at LAX.
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?J13564CEB
>
>> Note the water next to the runway, the ice on the runway, and the man
>> in cold-weather gear... at LAX??? Nope. Not to mention that the name
>> of the plane is different from the LAX incident.
>
> That's foam on the runway, and the man is wearing a light windbreaker with
> a hood. It's typically windy at airports. Can't say that I noticed the
> name on the 9/21 plane, but the number on the gear door is the same.
>
> George Patterson

I'm with Kev on this one...

That's light, blowing snow (they didn't foam the runway at LAX, did they?)
That man is wearing much more than a light windbreaker (looks like Eddie
Bauer to me...). You wouldn't see water standing perpendicular to the
runways at LAX.

Jay B

[Flyingmonk]

Hey George! Hehehe

Sorry George, I'm w/ Kev on this too. First picture gear aligned 90*
to the right, all others, gear aligned 90* to the left.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

[Jay Honeck]

> Most, if not all, of those pictures are from a different, though very
> similar, Jet Blue incident.

Interesting -- I've been "had"! Oh well, they're worth exactly what I
(and you) paid for them...

:-)

I received this guy's email right before leaving the inn for my "weekend"
(Wed/Thu) yesterday, and (obviously!) didn't look at them very closely
before posting them.

They're still amazing pix -- I'll just have to re-label the page.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Flyingmonk]

Also, in the first picture, half of the horizontal cylinder, just above
the pivot elbow, is black whereas in all other pitures, the cylinder is
all silver.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

[George Patterson]

Jay Beckman wrote:

> I'm with Kev on this one...

Kev is right. After posting, I located some better shots of the 9/21 plane.
Definitely a different case.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

[George Patterson]

Jay Honeck wrote:

> Interesting -- I've been "had"!

Looks like ABC news fell for it too.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

[Ron Garret]

In article <IcI0f.474$026.37@trndny09>,
George Patterson > wrote:

> Kev wrote:
>
> > Uh, not quite.
>
> Yes, quite.
>
> > Most, if not all, of those pictures are from a different, though very
> > similar, Jet Blue incident.
>
> All photos are from the September 21 landing at LAX.
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?J13564CEB
>
> > Note the water next to the runway, the ice on the runway, and the man
> > in cold-weather gear... at LAX??? Nope. Not to mention that the name
> > of the plane is different from the LAX incident.
>
> That's foam on the runway, and the man is wearing a light windbreaker with a
> hood. It's typically windy at airports. Can't say that I noticed the name on
> the 9/21 plane, but the number on the gear door is the same.

No, it isn't. The 9/21 plane was number 536 and was called Canyon Blue.
Some of the images in question are of this plane, but others (including
the one with the man in the windbreaker) are of plane #503, apparently
named Bluebird.

Plane 503 has its gear doors fully open. Plane 536 landed with the main
nose gear door closed.

Plane 536 only has one tire left at the end. Plane 503 has both tires.

If you look closely you can also see that plane 503 didn't grind the
wheels down quite as far as 536. 536 went past the hub; 503 didn't.

Finally, plane 503 pretty clearly has a chunk of ice, not foam, up
against the wheel.

rg

[Kev]

Jay Honeck wrote:
> > Most, if not all, of those pictures are from a different, though very
> > similar, Jet Blue incident.
>
> Interesting -- I've been "had"! Oh well, they're worth exactly what I
> (and you) paid for them...

Not to worry. Apparently a lot of people were had by those photos.

After a bit of research, the winter pics are apparently from a Jet Blue
flight from Buffalo to JFK on Nov 1, 2002. On Feb 16, 1999, an
America West A320 did the same thing at Columbus, Ohio. There's been
about seven similar Airbus landing gear incidents.

Cheers, Kevin

[Montblack]

("Kev" wrote)
> After a bit of research, the winter pics are apparently from a Jet Blue
> flight from Buffalo to JFK on Nov 1, 2002. On Feb 16, 1999, an
> America West A320 did the same thing at Columbus, Ohio. There's been
> about seven similar Airbus landing gear incidents.


Seven? I would think that would rate a sim training program being written
for the A320 that would address this exact scenario ...give or take icy
conditions.

And the FAA's reaction to seven similar incidents? This is kind of what they
do.


Montblack

[LWG]

You could take the CBS News tack and say they're forged, but accurate...


>> Interesting -- I've been "had"! Oh well, they're worth exactly what I
>> (and you) paid for them...

[.Blueskies.]

"George Patterson" > wrote in message news:8LS0f.2533$ar6.1679@trndny01...
> Jay Honeck wrote:
>
>> Interesting -- I've been "had"!
>
> Looks like ABC news fell for it too.
>
> George Patterson
> Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
> It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.
>

All these news guys and not checking their sources, how 21st century!