What Others Are Saying About Aircraft Spruce

[jls]

Just a sampling. There's volumes more in Google, enough to make a stout
hog retch:



Amen to HBW's comments. I've had the same problems with Spruce;
screwed up orders and no one who gives a damn. The fact that they got
so big so quickly is not an excuse for ****ty service. Unfortunately,
they don't accept blame.
GWJ

Recently, however, in the last 5 months, the pleasure has gone out of our
very
expensive relationship. It started with an order for a radio, transponder,
airspeed, vario, altimiter, electric horizon, vacuum directional gyro,
artificial horizon, vacuum pump, and a bunch of misc things to finish out
the
panel. I asked for a quote, got one. I was overcharged $1*00, and will not
win the argument with your service people. It was all "in stock", except for
the radio system, when I ordered it. Took over six shipments to date, and it
is still not complete. I was charged over $2300 when the radio was shipped,
without the tray or transponder. I am still waiting on the transponder.


wrote:
> On page 217 of the 1998-1999 catalog A/C Spruce advertises* "NEW BENDIX
> MAGNETOS (outright purchase)". I went to order a mag from *these thieves
> and they told me there is always a core charge on magnetos*. I replied
> "not on new mags there ain't". Well it turns out these are* not new mags
> they are rebuilt. I did some checking and it would seem th*ey are rebuilt
> by a disreputable rebuilder of A/C parts and may not even *be legal for
> use on certificated aircraft. They are selling them as NEW* and they are
> not.BEWARE!!! If they are doing this with mags what else a*re they doing?
> In the course of this fiasco they also burned me on a wind*shield. Ended
> me up with an AOG for about a month and cost me a hell


After placing the order [with AS&S], I sat down on the couch (with a
medicinal beer)
and picked up a SacSkyRanch flyer. As I browsed through, I *started
seeing some big price differences. Not just on one item, but EVERY item
was priced lower at SacSkyRanch. I got out my pad & paper, *and on my
$250 order the difference was over $60!


Whatever you do, don't ship with UPS. The synergy of incompetence with
AS&S and UPS working together is amazing.

My experiences, as well as everyone I know personally that has dealt with
A.S.S. have been negative ( to one degree or another ). Late orders, wrong
orders, incomplete orders, overcharging and horrible customer service seem
to
be the norm rather than the exception. The topper for me though was the
fraudulent "design contest" they held last year in which prizes were not
awarded as promised. They never did award all of the prizes. They justified
this by reinventing the rules after the fact. They still owe someone $10,000
in building materials. By the way, did they award the final $5000 owed from
the contest at Oshkosh this year? They do some good things, but overall they
are scoundrels. Reading these threads reminded me of why I* will never do
business with them again. I say "Starve the *******s!".

[abripl]

I spent $40K buying stuff over 3 years from AS&S, Wicks, Chief,
SacSkyRanch, etc. etc. before finishing my kit. The prices wary
somewhat, but are often slightly lower at AS&S. I got a lot of stuff
from Wicks too because they are closer and shiped faster. Generally
AS&S gave me good service and their terms were up front for me to agree
with or simply go elsewhere. I don't remember any time I could not
resolve a problem by simply calling them. And the "problems" were few
and far in between. At one time I complained about a $30 shipping
charge and they promptly refunded me $10. I find your original
characterizaton of AS&S somewhat unbelievable. I have a stack of bills
proving my dealings with AS&S - items ranging from $0.12 to $1850.00.
-----------------------------------------
SQ2000 canard: http://www.abri.com/sq2000

[Juan Jimenez]

I have found over the years that most people who whine about AS&S greatly
exaggerate the stories, and even if the stories were true, they probably
deserved to be treated the way they _claim_ they were treated. Case in
point, "jls". He certainly falls squarely into that category. :)

"abripl" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>I spent $40K buying stuff over 3 years from AS&S, Wicks, Chief,
> SacSkyRanch, etc. etc. before finishing my kit. The prices wary
> somewhat, but are often slightly lower at AS&S. I got a lot of stuff
> from Wicks too because they are closer and shiped faster. Generally
> AS&S gave me good service and their terms were up front for me to agree
> with or simply go elsewhere. I don't remember any time I could not
> resolve a problem by simply calling them. And the "problems" were few
> and far in between. At one time I complained about a $30 shipping
> charge and they promptly refunded me $10. I find your original
> characterizaton of AS&S somewhat unbelievable. I have a stack of bills
> proving my dealings with AS&S - items ranging from $0.12 to $1850.00.
> -----------------------------------------
> SQ2000 canard: http://www.abri.com/sq2000
>

[jls]

"Juan Jimenez" > wrote in message
...
> I have found over the years that most people who whine about AS&S greatly
> exaggerate the stories, and even if the stories were true, they probably
> deserved to be treated the way they _claim_ they were treated. Case in
> point, "jls". He certainly falls squarely into that category. :)

The manifest weight of authority gleaned from a study of over 4,700 Google
entries is that Aircraft Spruce and Jim Irwin have been, are, and will
continue to be a shabby and dishonest merchandiser. Most of the complaints
are about abysmal customer service; rudeness: the customer is always wrong;
back-ordering after the customer has been told the merchandise is in stock;
sham overcharges; and slack and erroneous shipments.

Jaun's motives here one can surmise are pecuniary since his narcissistic
boss has been known to funnel off a little loot from Irwin on occasion.
>
> "abripl" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> >I spent $40K buying stuff over 3 years from AS&S, Wicks, Chief,
> > SacSkyRanch, etc. etc. before finishing my kit. The prices wary
> > somewhat, but are often slightly lower at AS&S. I got a lot of stuff
> > from Wicks too because they are closer and shiped faster. Generally
> > AS&S gave me good service and their terms were up front for me to agree
> > with or simply go elsewhere. I don't remember any time I could not
> > resolve a problem by simply calling them. And the "problems" were few
> > and far in between. At one time I complained about a $30 shipping
> > charge and they promptly refunded me $10. I find your original
> > characterizaton of AS&S somewhat unbelievable. I have a stack of bills
> > proving my dealings with AS&S - items ranging from $0.12 to $1850.00.
> > -----------------------------------------

I have had good service from them too, and for a period of months received
excellent treatment from them. But for the shifty way they reacted when
notified a CHT Gauge was dead on arrival, I would have continued purchasing
from them. A legitimate merchandiser, like Sears for example, gives
refunds for bad merchandise. If 2 of 3 PMA'd, 1-year-guaranteed Mitchell
CHT gauges are defective right out of the box, I don't want one of them.

Besides that, it's frustrating to install a gauge and all the wiring,
spending an entire afternoon getting the wires all neatly tie-wrapped and
threaded through the firewall and the instrument fastened neatly in the
panel, only to find out your work has been in vain and you will now have to
break in your engine without that soothing assurance there on the dial
telling you that the hottest cylinder of the six new cylinders you paid over
$5,000 for is not overheating. And you also want to know when the
temperature has stabilized and when it drops another 15 or 20 degrees,
indicating the cylinder is now broken in and the rings are seated.

Bet you $100 to a nickel Mitchell does not test their units.

Put yourself into the other guy's shoes.

Then anybody who has had experience with the hurdles you must get over to
get to Spruce's customer service, let that be a lesson to you: it is an
omen of the respect they have for their customers. On the other hand, if
you are happy with their service, good for you. You may be luckier than you
think.

A friend said he would never buy from them again, said he had an awful time
buying composite materials from them and the last time he bought Polytak,
the date was run out. I have had the same trouble from them, and one time
despised them for a year for sticking me with a $15 sham hazmat charge. I
learned not to ever, ever use e-mail to order from them. And when I ordered
I always made notes, so I had the understanding reduced to writing in case
of sticker shock or some other foulup.

If you're building an aircraft you have to buy from someone. Thank
goodness AS&S doesn't yet have a monopoly or you would be at Jim Irwin's
shameless mercy. So I have concluded that Irwin is greedy and unscrupulous
(and will tell you a lie), but you are welcome to conclude as you please.

[Morgans]

" jls" > wrote

> So I have concluded that Irwin is greedy and unscrupulous
> (and will tell you a lie), but you are welcome to conclude as you please.
>

*That* looks close enough to slander, that I hope he sues your silly little
arse out of existence.
--
Jim in NC

[B2431]

>From: "abripl"
>Date: 2/2/2005 17:29 Central Standard Time
>Message-id: . com>
>
>I spent $40K buying stuff over 3 years from AS&S, Wicks, Chief,
>SacSkyRanch, etc. etc. before finishing my kit. The prices wary
>somewhat, but are often slightly lower at AS&S. I got a lot of stuff
>from Wicks too because they are closer and shiped faster.

I prefer AS&S for small orders or those I want fast simply because I get 2 day
service without paying for it due to being close to AS&S. As a benefit of being
a night person I have placed orders at 3am and gotten the shipment the next
day.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[Greybeard]

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 19:42:37 -0500, " jls" >
wrote:

>
<Bull****, bluster, wishful thinking hacked.>

Maybe someday something that even skirts the truth will come out of
the turd latchless larry, but then, maybe we'll all live forever, too.

Greybeard.

[RobertR237]

>
>I spent $40K buying stuff over 3 years from AS&S, Wicks, Chief,
>SacSkyRanch, etc. etc. before finishing my kit. The prices wary
>somewhat, but are often slightly lower at AS&S. I got a lot of stuff
>from Wicks too because they are closer and shiped faster. Generally
>AS&S gave me good service and their terms were up front for me to agree
>with or simply go elsewhere. I don't remember any time I could not
>resolve a problem by simply calling them. And the "problems" were few
>and far in between. At one time I complained about a $30 shipping
>charge and they promptly refunded me $10. I find your original
>characterizaton of AS&S somewhat unbelievable. I have a stack of bills
>proving my dealings with AS&S - items ranging from $0.12 to $1850.00.
>-----------------------------------------
>SQ2000 canard: http://www.abri.com/sq2000
>
>

My experience with AS&S would be about the same. Had some problems years ago
but even those were quickly resolved.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

[Ron Natalie]

Juan Jimenez wrote:
> I have found over the years that most people who whine about AS&S greatly
> exaggerate the stories, and even if the stories were true, they probably
> deserved to be treated the way they _claim_ they were treated. Case in
> point, "jls". He certainly falls squarely into that category. :)
>

I have to say that in the years I've dealt with them, they have
much improved. Years ago (long before they acquired Alexander)
a large percentage of my orders got screwed up. Not out of dishonesty,
just stupidity. Typical would be that they'd not tell you things
were backordered until you were sitting around wondering if it was
ever going to arrive. Another event was when their computer said
they had a part in stock, but the order pullers couldn't find it and
nobody did anything (call me, order some more inventory, etc...).
That and in those days, they wouldn't take customer service inquiries
on the 800 number.

Times pass. The last bunch of orders we made not only were dealt with
promptly and accurately, but they were even cheaper than the price we
got from the catalog. The 800 number now takes any call. Jerry
Aguilar even gave me my $5 credit that I got screwed out of back when
they used to make you pay for their catalog (refunable on your next
order, but in practice impossible to do).

[kumaros]

Ron Natalie wrote:
>
>
> I have to say that in the years I've dealt with them, they have
> much improved.

snipped...

I sure hope so. The only order I placed
with them some years ago, for their
catalogue, they bungled royally. Having
just ordered AeroCanard plans from
Aerocad, I'll have to rely on AS for
many parts.
Kumaros
It's all Greek to me

[jls]

"Ron Natalie" > wrote in message
m...
> Juan Jimenez wrote:
> > I have found over the years that most people who whine about AS&S
greatly
> > exaggerate the stories, and even if the stories were true, they probably
> > deserved to be treated the way they _claim_ they were treated. Case in
> > point, "jls". He certainly falls squarely into that category. :)
> >
>
> I have to say that in the years I've dealt with them, they have
> much improved. Years ago (long before they acquired Alexander)
> a large percentage of my orders got screwed up. Not out of dishonesty,
> just stupidity. Typical would be that they'd not tell you things
> were backordered until you were sitting around wondering if it was
> ever going to arrive. Another event was when their computer said
> they had a part in stock, but the order pullers couldn't find it and
> nobody did anything (call me, order some more inventory, etc...).
> That and in those days, they wouldn't take customer service inquiries
> on the 800 number.

They *still* don't take customer service inquiries on the 800 number. They
switch you off to another 800 number after you have spent 5 to 10 minutes
punching numbers, looking for the correct pigeon-hole, and holding.

Don't take my word for it.

Try 877.477.7823, which is their toll-free number, and see. You won't get
customer service. You won't get anything but a runaround at that number
unless you're buying --- it is a purchase number only --- and while you're
waiting to get a real person rather than a rash of vague recordings, odious
worn-out music, and unsolicited advice you will hold the receiver between
your jaw and shoulder and be doing something else when a recorded voice will
come on and very quickly tell you that if you want customer service, you
will have to call this new number. Try it. The setup is designed to give
you the run-around. If you miss any one of the digits of the new number,
as I did because I was concentrating on something at the keyboard, you will
have to start the entire process over again, wasting another 5 to 10 minutes
punching keys and holding.

I buy thousands of dollars in parts from many different suppliers, and
Aircraft Spruce's "communication" system and so-called customer service are
by far the most abusive, hostile messes I have encountered in a year. And
the only conclusion I can draw is that Jim Irwin is slick and oily. If you
want to know who sets standards for professionalism and courtesy, try
McMaster, Aviall, McFarlane, Stene Aviation, Brodie's, or Wicks. I buy
parts from several parts houses, some of them in California, who are not
friendly, but they make up for it in competence and punctual service, two
qualities Aircraft Spruce conspicuously lacks.


When you finally get one of Aircraft Spruce's gravel-voiced misanthropes on
the phone (and you had better have all the paperwork including the invoice
in front of you or you'll be brushed off immediately) you are then directed
to call Mitchell Instruments, the manufacturer in Illinois, "because they
prefer to deal with you directly on their guarantee." If you suggest that
your purchase was with ACS&S, not Mitchell, your "friendly" customer service
representative will hang up on you. So then you are required to call back
using their "friendly" telephone system imported from Somalia. And by then
you are beginning to be perturbed.

Looking back, I would have sent an e-mail directly to Irwin:



Warning: I order a lot of stuff using e-mail. Try www.widgetsupply.com
for instance. but if you're a masochist and want to get yourself into a lot
of trouble, try ordering by e-mail from Aircraft Spruce.

[Mark Hickey]

" jls" > wrote:

>Don't take my word for it.
>
>Try 877.477.7823, which is their toll-free number, and see. You won't get
>customer service. You won't get anything but a runaround at that number
>unless you're buying --- it is a purchase number only --- and while you're
>waiting to get a real person rather than a rash of vague recordings, odious
>worn-out music, and unsolicited advice you will hold the receiver between
>your jaw and shoulder and be doing something else when a recorded voice will
>come on and very quickly tell you that if you want customer service, you
>will have to call this new number. Try it. The setup is designed to give
>you the run-around. If you miss any one of the digits of the new number,
>as I did because I was concentrating on something at the keyboard, you will
>have to start the entire process over again, wasting another 5 to 10 minutes
>punching keys and holding.

I took you advice and tried it.

I had to listen to ONE recorded message telling me which of several
simple options I could select by pressing a number - or to stay on the
line and wait and a real person would pick up.

I chose the option for "dealing with a previous order" and it
immediately rang through to a customer service rep.

It took me all of about 35-40 seconds to do this, including waiting to
hear the entire message even though the option for "previous order"
was early on in the recorded message.

Mark Hickey

[wmbjk]

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 19:42:37 -0500, " jls" >
wrote:

>"Juan Jimenez" > wrote in message
...
>> I have found over the years that most people who whine about AS&S greatly
>> exaggerate the stories, and even if the stories were true, they probably
>> deserved to be treated the way they _claim_ they were treated. Case in
>> point, "jls". He certainly falls squarely into that category. :)

>Jaun's motives here one can surmise are pecuniary since his narcissistic
>boss has been known to funnel off a little loot from Irwin on occasion.

Juan versus Latchless!! OMG, it's like Boris Badenoff up against
Snidely Whiplash. Will Boris make wild claims about Snidely's vehicle
registration? Will Snidely unleash the power of his Thesaurus of
Incoherence? Stay tuned for the next exciting episode!

> So I have concluded that Irwin is greedy and unscrupulous
>(and will tell you a lie), but you are welcome to conclude as you please.

Ok then, I conclude that you're having a hissy fit over a perceived
slight, and that your mommy should have dropped you on your head less
often.

Wayne

[John Ammeter]

On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 07:41:17 -0700, Mark Hickey
> wrote:

>" jls" > wrote:
>
>>Don't take my word for it.
>>
>>Try 877.477.7823, which is their toll-free number, and see. You won't get
>>customer service. You won't get anything but a runaround at that number
>>unless you're buying --- it is a purchase number only --- and while you're
>>waiting to get a real person rather than a rash of vague recordings, odious
>>worn-out music, and unsolicited advice you will hold the receiver between
>>your jaw and shoulder and be doing something else when a recorded voice will
>>come on and very quickly tell you that if you want customer service, you
>>will have to call this new number. Try it. The setup is designed to give
>>you the run-around. If you miss any one of the digits of the new number,
>>as I did because I was concentrating on something at the keyboard, you will
>>have to start the entire process over again, wasting another 5 to 10 minutes
>>punching keys and holding.
>
>I took you advice and tried it.
>
>I had to listen to ONE recorded message telling me which of several
>simple options I could select by pressing a number - or to stay on the
>line and wait and a real person would pick up.
>
>I chose the option for "dealing with a previous order" and it
>immediately rang through to a customer service rep.
>
>It took me all of about 35-40 seconds to do this, including waiting to
>hear the entire message even though the option for "previous order"
>was early on in the recorded message.
>
>Mark Hickey


That puts the lie to Larry's statement, doesn't it??

John

[Juan Jimenez]

"wmbjk" > wrote in message
...
>
> Juan versus Latchless!! OMG, it's like Boris Badenoff up against
> Snidely Whiplash. Will Boris make wild claims about Snidely's vehicle
> registration? Will Snidely unleash the power of his Thesaurus of
> Incoherence? Stay tuned for the next exciting episode!

Not really. jls, whatever his name is, is on my permanent twit list. I don't
even see his foam-at-the-mouth comments unless someone replies and comments.
He just doesn't have enough grey matter to qualify as cheap entertainment.
:)

> Ok then, I conclude that you're having a hissy fit over a perceived
> slight, and that your mommy should have dropped you on your head less
> often.

Seconded. :)

[Sean Trost]

I would agree that the lie is with JLS. I would think this type of
communication is designed to hurt buisness also.
JLS I would not sell you a dust bunny.
Sean

John Ammeter wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 07:41:17 -0700, Mark Hickey
> > wrote:
>
>
>>" jls" > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Don't take my word for it.
>>>
>>>Try 877.477.7823, which is their toll-free number, and see. You won't get
>>>customer service. You won't get anything but a runaround at that number
>>>unless you're buying --- it is a purchase number only --- and while you're
>>>waiting to get a real person rather than a rash of vague recordings, odious
>>>worn-out music, and unsolicited advice you will hold the receiver between
>>>your jaw and shoulder and be doing something else when a recorded voice will
>>>come on and very quickly tell you that if you want customer service, you
>>>will have to call this new number. Try it. The setup is designed to give
>>>you the run-around. If you miss any one of the digits of the new number,
>>>as I did because I was concentrating on something at the keyboard, you will
>>>have to start the entire process over again, wasting another 5 to 10 minutes
>>>punching keys and holding.
>>
>>I took you advice and tried it.
>>
>>I had to listen to ONE recorded message telling me which of several
>>simple options I could select by pressing a number - or to stay on the
>>line and wait and a real person would pick up.
>>
>>I chose the option for "dealing with a previous order" and it
>>immediately rang through to a customer service rep.
>>
>>It took me all of about 35-40 seconds to do this, including waiting to
>>hear the entire message even though the option for "previous order"
>>was early on in the recorded message.
>>
>>Mark Hickey
>
>
>
> That puts the lie to Larry's statement, doesn't it??
>
> John

[wmbjk]

On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 16:07:51 -0400, "Juan Jimenez" >
wrote:

>"wmbjk" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> Juan versus Latchless!! OMG, it's like Boris Badenoff up against
>> Snidely Whiplash. Will Boris make wild claims about Snidely's vehicle
>> registration? Will Snidely unleash the power of his Thesaurus of
>> Incoherence? Stay tuned for the next exciting episode!

>Not really.

You can't see yourself as Boris? OK then, you can be the Black Knight,
with Chuck as Arthur.
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~ebarnes/python/black-knight.htm

Wayne (it's all about the casting)

[Matt Whiting]

jls wrote:

> "Ron Natalie" > wrote in message
> m...
>
>>Juan Jimenez wrote:
>>
>>>I have found over the years that most people who whine about AS&S
>
> greatly
>
>>>exaggerate the stories, and even if the stories were true, they probably
>>>deserved to be treated the way they _claim_ they were treated. Case in
>>>point, "jls". He certainly falls squarely into that category. :)
>>>
>>
>>I have to say that in the years I've dealt with them, they have
>>much improved. Years ago (long before they acquired Alexander)
>>a large percentage of my orders got screwed up. Not out of dishonesty,
>>just stupidity. Typical would be that they'd not tell you things
>>were backordered until you were sitting around wondering if it was
>>ever going to arrive. Another event was when their computer said
>>they had a part in stock, but the order pullers couldn't find it and
>>nobody did anything (call me, order some more inventory, etc...).
>>That and in those days, they wouldn't take customer service inquiries
>>on the 800 number.
>
>
> They *still* don't take customer service inquiries on the 800 number. They
> switch you off to another 800 number after you have spent 5 to 10 minutes
> punching numbers, looking for the correct pigeon-hole, and holding.
>
> Don't take my word for it.

I don't think any of us are...

Matt

[Bashir]

jls is Leisure Suit Larry the Latchless? OK, now it all makes sense.

John Ammeter wrote:

>
> That puts the lie to Larry's statement, doesn't it??
>
> John

[Morgans]

"Bashir" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> jls is Leisure Suit Larry the Latchless? OK, now it all makes sense.

I know the feeling. (of realizing this) No small wonder I had put latchless
and jls in the looney bin. I took everyone out a while back, but no small
wonder he is back in, now.
--
Jim in NC

[Rob Turk]

" jls" > wrote in message
.. .
> Just a sampling. There's volumes more in Google, enough to make a stout
> hog retch:
>

My experience has been opposite of yours. Five years ago I started ordering
from them. Being in Europe, the international shipments seemed to be
impossible for AS&S to get right. There were always missing items, or
shipment took three weeks.

This has improved dramatically. Last year I have placed two orders through
the web on a monday afternoon, to find them on my doorstep in The
Netherlands on wednesday morning! That's better than some local 'same day
shipping' companies do!

I'm happy with them. They have their odds every now and then, but they have
my vote.

Rob

[Darrel Toepfer]

Rob Turk wrote:

> I have placed two orders through the web on a monday afternoon,
> to find them on my doorstep in The Netherlands on wednesday
> morning! That's better than some local 'same day shipping'
> companies do!

I mailed a package (25lbs by parcel post) to Holland (Nijmegan)
yesterday, it should arrive sometime in the next 5 to 6 weeks... ;-(

[Bashir]

Greybeard > wrote in message >...
> On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 19:42:37 -0500, " jls" >
> wrote:
>
> >
> <Bull****, bluster, wishful thinking hacked.>
>
> Maybe someday something that even skirts the truth will come out of
> the turd latchless larry, but then, maybe we'll all live forever, too.
>
> Greybeard.


Graybeard, I am very very angry with you.

For months I've known jls was a loon but I'm the last one on the
newsgroup to find out that he's really latchless Larry, leisure suit
lounge lizzard!

WHY DIDN'T ANY OF YOU TELL ME!!!! I feel like a moron.

Bash

[Bashir]

wmbjk > wrote in message >...

> Ok then, I conclude that you're having a hissy fit over a perceived
> slight, and that your mommy should have dropped you on your head less
> often.

Or more often. Either would work for the rest of us.

[Greybeard]

On 4 Feb 2005 14:08:17 -0800, (Bashir) wrote:


>
>
>Graybeard, I am very very angry with you.
>
>For months I've known jls was a loon but I'm the last one on the
>newsgroup to find out that he's really latchless Larry, leisure suit
>lounge lizzard!
>
>WHY DIDN'T ANY OF YOU TELL ME!!!! I feel like a moron.
>
Not my week for the "larry watch".

He's a poor second for ralphie, but "any loon in a pinch".

Greybeard.

(PS. Please don't insult the lizzards.)

[RST Engineering]

You idiots that bottom post without snipping do understand that most of you
will never be read, don't you?

Jim




"Mark Hickey" > wrote in message
...
>" jls" > wrote:
>
>>Don't take my word for it.
>>
>>Try 877.477.7823, which is their toll-free number, and see. You won't
>>get

[Mark Hickey]

"RST Engineering" > wrote:

>You idiots that bottom post without snipping do understand that most of you
>will never be read, don't you?
>
>Jim

Looks like someone (with a dog in this hunt?) has hijacked Jim's
account (header shows the routing info is all wrong).

Mark Hickey

>"Mark Hickey" > wrote in message
...
>>" jls" > wrote:
>>
>>>Don't take my word for it.
>>>
>>>Try 877.477.7823, which is their toll-free number, and see. You won't
>>>get
>

[Bob K.]

My experience with ACS has also been very good. Every order that I can
remember (and it has been dozens and dozens) has been shipped correctly
and promptly. And the one or two times I ordered the wrong thing, they
took it back and credited me without a problem.

I'm in Northern California, and often I order stuff one morning, and
find it on the doorstep the next afternoon. I consider that to be great
service.

Bob K.
http://www.hpaircraft.com

[wmbjk]

On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 07:00:55 -0700, Mark Hickey >
wrote:

>"RST Engineering" > wrote:
>
>>You idiots that bottom post without snipping do understand that most of you
>>will never be read, don't you?
>>
>>Jim

>Looks like someone (with a dog in this hunt?) has hijacked Jim's
>account (header shows the routing info is all wrong).
>
>Mark Hickey

Your previous post and the quoted text only takes up about one-half of
my screen height. There wasn't even any need to strain my scroll-wheel
finger. So I assumed that Jim (or whoever) either has his font size
set to "Mr. Magoo", or is wearing his foggles upside down. :-)

Wayne

[Jim351]

"RST Engineering" > wrote in
:

> You idiots that bottom post without snipping do understand that most
> of you will never be read, don't you?
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>


When you call me an idiot I would recommend you do it with a grin.
Dickwad.
I couldn't care less if you read my post.
I think Aircraft Spruce is the best homebuilt supplier in the world. I
have nothing but the highest praise for them. I have built two
homebuilts and theirs is the first site I go to when I need supplies. I
used to use Chief exclusively but D. has lost site of his roots. I don't
understand a $20 minimum after I've spent thousands there over the years.

jim