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AJ
October 24th 05, 03:56 PM
>From the New York Daily News:

A pilot was killed yesterday when his twin-engine airplane crashed in
the middle of the Village of East Hampton, terrifying movie stars and
fans mobbing an annual film festival.

The Cessna 411 aircraft plummeted out of the clear eastern Long Island
sky at 1:44 p.m. with at least one of its engines smoking, witnesses
said.

It clipped a tree, then fell with a fiery thud onto Mill Hill Lane, 100
feet from Main St.

"Oh, my God! I feel terrible," said actress Polly Draper, who had just
screened her movie, "Naked Brother's Band," on the last day of the East
Hampton International Film Festival when someone ran into Guild Hall
and screamed, "A plane just crashed!"

The blue-and-white plane landed on its belly and rolled at least once
before coming to a flaming stop, just missing multimillion-dollar homes
and the pricey Maidstone Arms Inn - where Draper and actors Miranda
Richardson, Kevin Bacon and Kyra Sedgwick were among the guests.

"We heard an explosion and everyone ran to see what happened," said
Liliana Vecino, 56, who was working the front desk at the Maidstone.

"We saw the plane in flames," Vecino said. "One of our employees tried
to get closer to the plane. She heard a knocking from inside, but it
was all in flames and she couldn't do anything."

Firefighters sprayed fire-smothering foam on the crumpled wreck and
doused a tree and telephone pole that had caught fire.

"I was on the phone when I heard the plane go overhead very, very low,"
said Dorothy Moss, who lives on Mill Hill Lane. "My friend [on the
phone] let out a scream and said it sounded like the plane was right on
top of my house."

Village Police Chief Jerry Larsen said the pilot was the only one on
the plane, which seats eight. Larsen did not release the victim's name,
pending notification of relatives.

He said the airplane was not headed to or taking off from the East
Hampton airport, 5 miles west of the village.

The aircraft had been registered to John Schisler of Buford, Ga., but
Schisler's wife, Patty, said her husband sold it a couple of years ago
to a man from Nantucket, Mass.

The Federal Aviation Administration and the National Transportation
Safety Board sent investigators to investigate the cause of the crash.

Larry Dighera
October 24th 05, 06:17 PM
On 24 Oct 2005 07:56:15 -0700, "AJ" > wrote in
. com>:

The N-number is clearly visible in the photograph at this link:
http://www.nydailynews.com/10-24-2005/news/story/358662p-305632c.html
The mishap occurred on October 23, 2005.

The Nantucket airport monitor is available here:
http://www4.passur.com/ack.html

>The aircraft had been registered to John Schisler of Buford, Ga., but
>Schisler's wife, Patty, said her husband sold it a couple of years ago
>to a man from Nantucket, Mass.

The FAA database shows:

N-number : N7345U
Aircraft Serial Number : 411-0045
Aircraft Manufacturer : CESSNA
Model : 411
Engine Manufacturer : CONT MOTOR
Model : GTSIO-520-C
Aircraft Year : 1965
Owner Name : SCHISLER JOHN
Owner Address : [XXXXX]
BUFORD, GA, 30518-5524
Type of Owner : Individual
Registration Date : 15-Apr-2002
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard
Approved Operations : Normal

But an owner search for N7354U yields "no records found.

Why would a pilot fail to register his newly purchased Cessna 411?
Would such a pilot be attempting to circumvent the property tax?

How would having the aircraft registered in the name of the old owner
affect the new owner's ability to insure his Cessna 411?

What would dodging the personal property tax, operating without
insurance, and failing to recover from an engine-out in a twin-engine
aircraft imply about the pilot's character and abilities?

George Patterson
October 24th 05, 06:38 PM
Larry Dighera wrote:

> But an owner search for N7354U yields "no records found.

If you run a search on N3162Q in the landings.com database, the owner name comes
up as "Sale Reported" and the address is a PO box. I assume the reason it comes
up that way is that I notified the FAA it was sold at the time I sold the plane,
but the new owner hasn't registered it. The address is the one which I provided
to the FAA.

> Why would a pilot fail to register his newly purchased Cessna 411?
> Would such a pilot be attempting to circumvent the property tax?

That's my guess in this case. NC also has such a tax.

> How would having the aircraft registered in the name of the old owner
> affect the new owner's ability to insure his Cessna 411?

Probably have no effect. Financing the plane would be a problem, however.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

Peter R.
October 24th 05, 06:40 PM
Larry Dighera > wrote:

> What would dodging the personal property tax, operating without
> insurance, and failing to recover from an engine-out in a twin-engine
> aircraft imply about the pilot's character and abilities?

Wow, you were able to conclude all of this from that sensationalistic
adjective-littered short account of the crash?

You are incredible.

--
Peter
























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Larry Dighera
October 24th 05, 10:24 PM
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 13:40:00 -0400, "Peter R."
> wrote in
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>Wow, you were able to conclude all of this ...

I concluded nothing. I asked a question?

Peter R.
October 24th 05, 11:13 PM
Larry Dighera > wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 13:40:00 -0400, "Peter R."
> > wrote in
> >::
>
>>Wow, you were able to conclude all of this ...
>
> I concluded nothing. I asked a question?

I once met a man named Terry who was very prejudiced and had a very poor
moral character.

Terry rhymes with Larry.

Why are you prejudiced, Larry?

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Morgans
October 25th 05, 12:09 AM
"Peter R." > wrote

> Wow, you were able to conclude all of this from that sensationalistic
> adjective-littered short account of the crash?
>
> You are incredible.

I started to reply about Larry, but now I decided to bite my tongue. Ouch,
I had to bite it really hard! <g>
--
Jim in NC

Larry Dighera
October 25th 05, 12:33 AM
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 18:13:42 -0400, "Peter R."
> wrote in
>::

[Childish BS snipped]

So, what would be your explanation for flying an unregistered airplane
for two years?

George Patterson
October 25th 05, 03:53 AM
Larry Dighera wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 13:40:00 -0400, "Peter R."
> > wrote in
> >::
>
>>Wow, you were able to conclude all of this ...
>
> I concluded nothing. I asked a question?

The question stipulates that the pilot dodged the personal property tax,
operated without insurance, and failed to recover from an engine-out in a
twin-engine aircraft.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

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