The E Word

[Michelle P]

I used the E-word today. At 08:30 EDT this morning over the Springfield
Mixing bowl just south of Washington DC, I declared and emergency.

We had just finished our Potomac River crossing south of National
airport and headed south to Woodbridge and back to Springfield, VA.
Northbound I was just turning the corner to pick up the beltway and head
for Tyson's Corners and the engine instantly started running rough, very
rough. I thought we were going to loose it all together at 1000 feet AGL
over a densely populated area.

I immediately turned south again towards the last airport we had passed
and called the tower. "Davison tower, Fetter Three is coming in". Fetter
Three what is the nature of your trouble? "Engine running rough", How
many souls (I hate that question but the need to know to know how many
Ambulances to roll), "2." How much fuel? "40 gallons". Are you declaring
and emergency? "Yes" ,Would you like Fire rescue? "Yes". I have pushed
the button. I tried the Carb heat no results. Mixture full in, and I
used our excess airspeed to climb. This added about 200 feet to our
altitude. Oil pressure was reading ok as was oil Temp. I tried different
power settings no luck. Here we were at 70 KIAS "full" power and holding
altitude. I called on the Company air to air to report I was going down.
Our other Fixed wing immediately turned towards our position. I was not
sure how long this would last so both my observer and I were looking for
a place to land short of the field. I am usually looking for places to
land as we are cruising around the beltway. Never hurts. Interstate 95S
was lightly loaded and was a real possibility. We also had a couple of
"large" fields on our way. The engine held and we were cleared to land,
wind calm.
As we rolled out we we met by the entire fire crew. Since the event was
sudden I had no Idea how bad the damage was and weather we would have a
fire upon landing. It turns out we were not leaking any oil or fuel.

We pushed the airplane off the runway, they have no tow bars for Small
GA airplanes. It was parked with the other fixed wing aircraft on the
field. THe airfield manager came out and greeted us. Offered us the use
of the DV (Distinguished Visitors) lounge. I called my boss and
Maintenance. They were on their way. Our other plane landed about 10
minutes behind me. While I was Cleaning out the plane, My observer
climbed in our other plane and went back to home base.
While I was waiting for my Boss and the Mechanic to arrived I sat in the
DV lounge watching Satellite TV and filling out the mound of paper work
from an un-authorized landing. Being made Authorized.

I stayed with the plane in hopes we could fix it and fly it out today.
The plane turned out to be broken harder than I thought. I originally
thought the Mags (Dual Drive) had slipped a gear since the entire engine
was running badly. It became very obvious when we removed the cowling
that we had a problem with the #3 cylinder. The intake push rod was
bent. This seemed strange until we removed the rocker cover. The stud
for the exhaust valve had come loose in the head and the rocker was
cocked to one side. THe push rod was not even contacting the rocker arm.
This trapped the high pressure combustion results in the cylinder. When
the intake valve tried to open it couldn't. Too much pressure. The push
rod bent. Not only did we have a dead cylinder, we had the rest of the
engine pushing against a full Combustion charge that could not escape.
The mechanic and I removed the offending cylinder and return to home
base. I and my morning observer went out and flew the afternoon Survey run.
Everything went smoothly and it usually does.

The airplane looks like it will be there until Monday when some of the
parts under the cowling were broken by the shaking.

Michelle (Two engine failures in 15 years and counting)

[Guy Elden Jr]

Wow, great story Michelle, glad to hear everything turned out well.
Just curious - how close do they let you get to DCA these days, now
that GA is "allowed" back into the field?

--
Guy

[Michelle P]

Thanks,
We fly a Waiver so We are allowed within 7 NM of DCA VOR at all times. I
have one of my Class B charts with a beg red dot in the center. The do
not go there dot. We have nothing to do with GA into DCA.
Michelle

Guy Elden Jr wrote:

>Wow, great story Michelle, glad to hear everything turned out well.
>Just curious - how close do they let you get to DCA these days, now
>that GA is "allowed" back into the field?
>
>--
>Guy
>
>
>

[muzz]

As the Brits say, Jolly good show gal.






On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 01:12:34 GMT, Michelle P
> wrote:

>I used the E-word today. At 08:30 EDT this morning over the Springfield
>Mixing bowl just south of Washington DC, I declared and emergency.
>
>We had just finished our Potomac River crossing south of National
>airport and headed south to Woodbridge and back to Springfield, VA.
>Northbound I was just turning the corner to pick up the beltway and head
>for Tyson's Corners and the engine instantly started running rough, very
>rough. I thought we were going to loose it all together at 1000 feet AGL
>over a densely populated area.
>
>I immediately turned south again towards the last airport we had passed
>and called the tower. "Davison tower, Fetter Three is coming in". Fetter
>Three what is the nature of your trouble? "Engine running rough", How
>many souls (I hate that question but the need to know to know how many
>Ambulances to roll), "2." How much fuel? "40 gallons". Are you declaring
>and emergency? "Yes" ,Would you like Fire rescue? "Yes". I have pushed
>the button. I tried the Carb heat no results. Mixture full in, and I
>used our excess airspeed to climb. This added about 200 feet to our
>altitude. Oil pressure was reading ok as was oil Temp. I tried different
>power settings no luck. Here we were at 70 KIAS "full" power and holding
>altitude. I called on the Company air to air to report I was going down.
>Our other Fixed wing immediately turned towards our position. I was not
>sure how long this would last so both my observer and I were looking for
>a place to land short of the field. I am usually looking for places to
>land as we are cruising around the beltway. Never hurts. Interstate 95S
>was lightly loaded and was a real possibility. We also had a couple of
>"large" fields on our way. The engine held and we were cleared to land,
>wind calm.
>As we rolled out we we met by the entire fire crew. Since the event was
>sudden I had no Idea how bad the damage was and weather we would have a
>fire upon landing. It turns out we were not leaking any oil or fuel.
>
>We pushed the airplane off the runway, they have no tow bars for Small
>GA airplanes. It was parked with the other fixed wing aircraft on the
>field. THe airfield manager came out and greeted us. Offered us the use
>of the DV (Distinguished Visitors) lounge. I called my boss and
>Maintenance. They were on their way. Our other plane landed about 10
>minutes behind me. While I was Cleaning out the plane, My observer
>climbed in our other plane and went back to home base.
>While I was waiting for my Boss and the Mechanic to arrived I sat in the
>DV lounge watching Satellite TV and filling out the mound of paper work
>from an un-authorized landing. Being made Authorized.
>
> I stayed with the plane in hopes we could fix it and fly it out today.
>The plane turned out to be broken harder than I thought. I originally
>thought the Mags (Dual Drive) had slipped a gear since the entire engine
>was running badly. It became very obvious when we removed the cowling
>that we had a problem with the #3 cylinder. The intake push rod was
>bent. This seemed strange until we removed the rocker cover. The stud
>for the exhaust valve had come loose in the head and the rocker was
>cocked to one side. THe push rod was not even contacting the rocker arm.
>This trapped the high pressure combustion results in the cylinder. When
>the intake valve tried to open it couldn't. Too much pressure. The push
>rod bent. Not only did we have a dead cylinder, we had the rest of the
>engine pushing against a full Combustion charge that could not escape.
>The mechanic and I removed the offending cylinder and return to home
>base. I and my morning observer went out and flew the afternoon Survey run.
>Everything went smoothly and it usually does.
>
>The airplane looks like it will be there until Monday when some of the
>parts under the cowling were broken by the shaking.
>
>Michelle (Two engine failures in 15 years and counting)

[George Patterson]

Michelle P wrote:
> I used the E-word today. At 08:30 EDT this morning over the Springfield
> Mixing bowl just south of Washington DC, I declared and emergency.

Glad it worked out so well.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

[zatatime]

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 01:12:34 GMT, Michelle P
> wrote:

>Michelle (Two engine failures in 15 years and counting)


Glad it held together long enough for you to get to a field and I hope
you can stop counting at 2.

z

[John T]

Michelle P wrote:
>
> While I was Cleaning out the plane, My observer
> climbed in our other plane and went back to home base.

OK, I just have to ask about "cleaning out the plane"... :-D

Seriously, good job on handling the situation.

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[Michelle P]

Well my underwear is till clean, but it was close. I was shaking pretty
badly when I got out of the plane.
I would like to get a copy of the "tape".
It was just our personal stuff I cleaned out of the plane.....

Michelle

John T wrote:

>Michelle P wrote:
>
>
>>While I was Cleaning out the plane, My observer
>>climbed in our other plane and went back to home base.
>>
>>
>
>OK, I just have to ask about "cleaning out the plane"... :-D
>
>Seriously, good job on handling the situation.
>
>
>

[Denny]

Good decision making, Michelle... May it be at least 7.5 years to the
next engine failure <they do do that, don't they>...

cheers ... denny - 1 engine lunched, and counting...

[Cecil Chapman]

Great job and an excellent account! I'm forwarding your post to my wife.

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CP-ASEL-IA

Student - C.F.I.

Check out my personal flying adventures from my first flight to the
checkride AND the continuing adventures beyond!
Complete with pictures and text at: www.bayareapilot.com

"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery -

"We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
- Cecil Day Lewis -

[Maule Driver]

Nicely done and great story! Thanks.

What is the fixed wing that you fly on the job?

[Stubby]

Michelle P wrote:
> I used the E-word today. At 08:30 EDT this morning over the Springfield
> Mixing bowl just south of Washington DC, I declared and emergency.
>
> We had just finished our Potomac River crossing south of National
> airport and headed south to Woodbridge and back to Springfield, VA.
> Northbound I was just turning the corner to pick up the beltway and head
> for Tyson's Corners and the engine instantly started running rough, very
> rough. I thought we were going to loose it all together at 1000 feet AGL
> over a densely populated area.
>
> I immediately turned south again towards the last airport we had passed
> and called the tower. "Davison tower, Fetter Three is coming in". Fetter
> Three what is the nature of your trouble? "Engine running rough", How
> many souls (I hate that question but the need to know to know how many
> Ambulances to roll), "2." How much fuel? "40 gallons". Are you declaring
> and emergency? "Yes" ,Would you like Fire rescue? "Yes". I have pushed
> the button. I tried the Carb heat no results. Mixture full in, and I
> used our excess airspeed to climb. This added about 200 feet to our
> altitude. Oil pressure was reading ok as was oil Temp. I tried different
> power settings no luck. Here we were at 70 KIAS "full" power and holding
> altitude. I called on the Company air to air to report I was going down.
> Our other Fixed wing immediately turned towards our position. I was not
> sure how long this would last so both my observer and I were looking for
> a place to land short of the field. I am usually looking for places to
> land as we are cruising around the beltway. Never hurts. Interstate 95S
> was lightly loaded and was a real possibility. We also had a couple of
> "large" fields on our way. The engine held and we were cleared to land,
> wind calm.
> As we rolled out we we met by the entire fire crew. Since the event was
> sudden I had no Idea how bad the damage was and weather we would have a
> fire upon landing. It turns out we were not leaking any oil or fuel.
>
> We pushed the airplane off the runway, they have no tow bars for Small
> GA airplanes. It was parked with the other fixed wing aircraft on the
> field. THe airfield manager came out and greeted us. Offered us the use
> of the DV (Distinguished Visitors) lounge. I called my boss and
> Maintenance. They were on their way. Our other plane landed about 10
> minutes behind me. While I was Cleaning out the plane, My observer
> climbed in our other plane and went back to home base.
> While I was waiting for my Boss and the Mechanic to arrived I sat in the
> DV lounge watching Satellite TV and filling out the mound of paper work
> from an un-authorized landing. Being made Authorized.
>
> I stayed with the plane in hopes we could fix it and fly it out today.
> The plane turned out to be broken harder than I thought. I originally
> thought the Mags (Dual Drive) had slipped a gear since the entire engine
> was running badly. It became very obvious when we removed the cowling
> that we had a problem with the #3 cylinder. The intake push rod was
> bent. This seemed strange until we removed the rocker cover. The stud
> for the exhaust valve had come loose in the head and the rocker was
> cocked to one side. THe push rod was not even contacting the rocker arm.
> This trapped the high pressure combustion results in the cylinder. When
> the intake valve tried to open it couldn't. Too much pressure. The push
> rod bent. Not only did we have a dead cylinder, we had the rest of the
> engine pushing against a full Combustion charge that could not escape.
> The mechanic and I removed the offending cylinder and return to home
> base. I and my morning observer went out and flew the afternoon Survey run.
> Everything went smoothly and it usually does.
>
> The airplane looks like it will be there until Monday when some of the
> parts under the cowling were broken by the shaking.
>
> Michelle (Two engine failures in 15 years and counting)

Great job. You're every man's dream -- you fly, are very competent,
replace engine parts and even clean the plane!



Was it Andrews AFB where you landed?

[[email protected]]

I love a happy ending.

When you told the tower you were "Coming In" how did they know you had
trouble?

[Larry Dighera]

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 01:12:34 GMT, Michelle P
> wrote in
t>::

>I used the E-word today. At 08:30 EDT this morning over the Springfield
>Mixing bowl just south of Washington DC, I declared and emergency.

Well done, Michelle. I only hope I am able to be as perspicacious in
managing the situation when my turn comes.

[Longworth]

Michelle,
Well done. I wish that I could be as calm and competent as you were
in handling emergency situations. Glad to hear of the good outcome.

Hai Longworth

[Michelle P]

Thanks You,
It was not mine. It was the companies.
We run these things to death and they keep on running. (Usually)
Michelle

Maule Driver wrote:

>
> Nicely done and great story! Thanks.
>
> What is the fixed wing that you fly on the job?

[Michelle P]

Stubby,
Thank You,
If I am every man's dream how come i cannot find the right one? I seem
to scare a lot off because I am more competent than they in a lot of
areas. Modest aren't I?
Michelle

Stubby wrote:

>
> Great job. You're every man's dream -- you fly, are very competent,
> replace engine parts and even clean the plane!
>
>
>
> Was it Andrews AFB where you landed?
>

[Michelle P]

We do not land at Davison AAF normally. We use their airspace all the
time. I may have told them we had a problem before they asked. That is
one of the reasons I want a copy of the Recording. 5 minutes seemed to
last forever.

Michelle

wrote:

>I love a happy ending.
>
>When you told the tower you were "Coming In" how did they know you had
>trouble?
>
>
>

[Michelle P]

I am not how I would have handled this say 1500 or so hours ago.
Experience has built my confidence. I am a lot more comfortable on the
flight deck and abnormal things do not upset me as much as they used too.
Michelle

Longworth wrote:

>Michelle,
> Well done. I wish that I could be as calm and competent as you were
>in handling emergency situations. Glad to hear of the good outcome.
>
>Hai Longworth
>
>
>

[Michelle P]

Ok the poster did not do what I expected it to do. I select and replied
to individual messages but it grouped them all together.
Michelle

Michelle P wrote:

> I am not how I would have handled this say 1500 or so hours ago.
> Experience has built my confidence. I am a lot more comfortable on the
> flight deck and abnormal things do not upset me as much as they used too.
> Michelle
>
> Longworth wrote:
>
>> Michelle,
>> Well done. I wish that I could be as calm and competent as you were
>> in handling emergency situations. Glad to hear of the good outcome.
>>
>> Hai Longworth
>>
>>
>>

[Ross Richardson]

You never know how you will act in an emergency. In 1973 I lost an
engine and came to a successful landing, except it was off airport.


-------------
Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI


Longworth wrote:
> Michelle,
> Well done. I wish that I could be as calm and competent as you were
> in handling emergency situations. Glad to hear of the good outcome.
>
> Hai Longworth
>

[Montblack]

[Maule Driver]
>> Nicely done and great story! Thanks.
>>
>> What is the fixed wing that you fly on the job?

("Michelle P" wrote)
> Thanks You,
> It was not mine. It was the companies.
> We run these things to death and they keep on running. (Usually)


{Montblack}
I'll take it from here Maule Driver.

BTW, nice write up MP.

High wing?

[Longworth]

Michelle,
Your post reminded me once again of a story told by Rick Durden. He
met a single female pilot at an aviation event and heard her making
this comment:

"The odds are good, but the goods are odd"

The ones who were scare away from you are not worthy of you anyway
;-)

Hai Longworth

[Orval Fairbairn]

In article t>,
Michelle P > wrote:

> I am not how I would have handled this say 1500 or so hours ago.
> Experience has built my confidence. I am a lot more comfortable on the
> flight deck and abnormal things do not upset me as much as they used too.
> Michelle
>
> Longworth wrote:
>
> >Michelle,
> > Well done. I wish that I could be as calm and competent as you were
> >in handling emergency situations. Glad to hear of the good outcome.
> >
> >Hai Longworth
> >
> >
> >

Michelle,

You dine good!

You followed the aviator's three primary rules:
1. Aviate (Fly the damn airplane!)
2. Navigate.
3. Communicate.

#2 and #3 are no good if you aren't flying the airplane.
#3 doesn't do a lot of good if you don't know where you are.

[Matt Whiting]

Michelle P wrote:
> Stubby,
> Thank You,
> If I am every man's dream how come i cannot find the right one? I seem
> to scare a lot off because I am more competent than they in a lot of
> areas. Modest aren't I?

Well, I'm already happily married so I won't ask for a list of which
areas... :-)

Matt

[Larry Dighera]

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:31:16 GMT, Matt Whiting >
wrote in >::

>> If I am every man's dream how come i cannot find the right one?

What qualities and qualifications must the "right one" possess for
your to perceive him as being right?

[Matt Whiting]

Larry Dighera wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:31:16 GMT, Matt Whiting >
> wrote in >::
>
>
>>>If I am every man's dream how come i cannot find the right one?
>
>
> What qualities and qualifications must the "right one" possess for
> your to perceive him as being right?

Larry, you need to exercise more care in your posts. I wrote nothing
above, yet you have it attributed to me.

Matt

[Gerald Sylvester]

Michelle -
Thanks for the write up. Great job. I'm usually shaken
up when I make a normal landing (just kidding). I can't imagine
what I'd be like during something like this.
BTW, did they clear you for runway 05 or just runway 5.
(or whatever it was)? Just kidding.

Gerald


Michelle P wrote:
> I used the E-word today. At 08:30 EDT this morning over the Springfield
> Mixing bowl just south of Washington DC, I declared and emergency.
>
> We had just finished our Potomac River crossing south of National
> airport and headed south to Woodbridge and back to Springfield, VA.
> Northbound I was just turning the corner to pick up the beltway and head
> for Tyson's Corners and the engine instantly started running rough, very
> rough. I thought we were going to loose it all together at 1000 feet AGL
> over a densely populated area.
>
> I immediately turned south again towards the last airport we had passed
> and called the tower. "Davison tower, Fetter Three is coming in". Fetter
> Three what is the nature of your trouble? "Engine running rough", How
> many souls (I hate that question but the need to know to know how many
> Ambulances to roll), "2." How much fuel? "40 gallons". Are you declaring
> and emergency? "Yes" ,Would you like Fire rescue? "Yes". I have pushed
> the button. I tried the Carb heat no results. Mixture full in, and I
> used our excess airspeed to climb. This added about 200 feet to our
> altitude. Oil pressure was reading ok as was oil Temp. I tried different
> power settings no luck. Here we were at 70 KIAS "full" power and holding
> altitude. I called on the Company air to air to report I was going down.
> Our other Fixed wing immediately turned towards our position. I was not
> sure how long this would last so both my observer and I were looking for
> a place to land short of the field. I am usually looking for places to
> land as we are cruising around the beltway. Never hurts. Interstate 95S
> was lightly loaded and was a real possibility. We also had a couple of
> "large" fields on our way. The engine held and we were cleared to land,
> wind calm.
> As we rolled out we we met by the entire fire crew. Since the event was
> sudden I had no Idea how bad the damage was and weather we would have a
> fire upon landing. It turns out we were not leaking any oil or fuel.
>
> We pushed the airplane off the runway, they have no tow bars for Small
> GA airplanes. It was parked with the other fixed wing aircraft on the
> field. THe airfield manager came out and greeted us. Offered us the use
> of the DV (Distinguished Visitors) lounge. I called my boss and
> Maintenance. They were on their way. Our other plane landed about 10
> minutes behind me. While I was Cleaning out the plane, My observer
> climbed in our other plane and went back to home base.
> While I was waiting for my Boss and the Mechanic to arrived I sat in the
> DV lounge watching Satellite TV and filling out the mound of paper work
> from an un-authorized landing. Being made Authorized.
>
> I stayed with the plane in hopes we could fix it and fly it out today.
> The plane turned out to be broken harder than I thought. I originally
> thought the Mags (Dual Drive) had slipped a gear since the entire engine
> was running badly. It became very obvious when we removed the cowling
> that we had a problem with the #3 cylinder. The intake push rod was
> bent. This seemed strange until we removed the rocker cover. The stud
> for the exhaust valve had come loose in the head and the rocker was
> cocked to one side. THe push rod was not even contacting the rocker arm.
> This trapped the high pressure combustion results in the cylinder. When
> the intake valve tried to open it couldn't. Too much pressure. The push
> rod bent. Not only did we have a dead cylinder, we had the rest of the
> engine pushing against a full Combustion charge that could not escape.
> The mechanic and I removed the offending cylinder and return to home
> base. I and my morning observer went out and flew the afternoon Survey run.
> Everything went smoothly and it usually does.
>
> The airplane looks like it will be there until Monday when some of the
> parts under the cowling were broken by the shaking.
>
> Michelle (Two engine failures in 15 years and counting)

[Mike]

Glad to hear everything worked out OK. What year/type AC?


"Michelle P" > wrote in message
nk.net...
>I used the E-word today. At 08:30 EDT this morning over the Springfield
>Mixing bowl just south of Washington DC, I declared and emergency.
>
> We had just finished our Potomac River crossing south of National airport
> and headed south to Woodbridge and back to Springfield, VA. Northbound I
> was just turning the corner to pick up the beltway and head for Tyson's
> Corners and the engine instantly started running rough, very rough. I
> thought we were going to loose it all together at 1000 feet AGL over a
> densely populated area.
>
> I immediately turned south again towards the last airport we had passed
> and called the tower. "Davison tower, Fetter Three is coming in". Fetter
> Three what is the nature of your trouble? "Engine running rough", How many
> souls (I hate that question but the need to know to know how many
> Ambulances to roll), "2." How much fuel? "40 gallons". Are you declaring
> and emergency? "Yes" ,Would you like Fire rescue? "Yes". I have pushed the
> button. I tried the Carb heat no results. Mixture full in, and I used our
> excess airspeed to climb. This added about 200 feet to our altitude. Oil
> pressure was reading ok as was oil Temp. I tried different power settings
> no luck. Here we were at 70 KIAS "full" power and holding altitude. I
> called on the Company air to air to report I was going down. Our other
> Fixed wing immediately turned towards our position. I was not sure how
> long this would last so both my observer and I were looking for a place to
> land short of the field. I am usually looking for places to land as we are
> cruising around the beltway. Never hurts. Interstate 95S was lightly
> loaded and was a real possibility. We also had a couple of "large" fields
> on our way. The engine held and we were cleared to land, wind calm.
> As we rolled out we we met by the entire fire crew. Since the event was
> sudden I had no Idea how bad the damage was and weather we would have a
> fire upon landing. It turns out we were not leaking any oil or fuel.
>
> We pushed the airplane off the runway, they have no tow bars for Small GA
> airplanes. It was parked with the other fixed wing aircraft on the field.
> THe airfield manager came out and greeted us. Offered us the use of the DV
> (Distinguished Visitors) lounge. I called my boss and Maintenance. They
> were on their way. Our other plane landed about 10 minutes behind me.
> While I was Cleaning out the plane, My observer climbed in our other plane
> and went back to home base.
> While I was waiting for my Boss and the Mechanic to arrived I sat in the
> DV lounge watching Satellite TV and filling out the mound of paper work
> from an un-authorized landing. Being made Authorized.
>
> I stayed with the plane in hopes we could fix it and fly it out today. The
> plane turned out to be broken harder than I thought. I originally thought
> the Mags (Dual Drive) had slipped a gear since the entire engine was
> running badly. It became very obvious when we removed the cowling that we
> had a problem with the #3 cylinder. The intake push rod was bent. This
> seemed strange until we removed the rocker cover. The stud for the exhaust
> valve had come loose in the head and the rocker was cocked to one side.
> THe push rod was not even contacting the rocker arm. This trapped the high
> pressure combustion results in the cylinder. When the intake valve tried
> to open it couldn't. Too much pressure. The push rod bent. Not only did we
> have a dead cylinder, we had the rest of the engine pushing against a full
> Combustion charge that could not escape.
> The mechanic and I removed the offending cylinder and return to home base.
> I and my morning observer went out and flew the afternoon Survey run.
> Everything went smoothly and it usually does.
>
> The airplane looks like it will be there until Monday when some of the
> parts under the cowling were broken by the shaking.
>
> Michelle (Two engine failures in 15 years and counting)

[[email protected]]

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 01:12:34 GMT, Michelle P
> wrote:

>I used the E-word today. At 08:30 EDT this morning over the Springfield
>Mixing bowl just south of Washington DC, I declared and emergency.
snip
>The airplane looks like it will be there until Monday when some of the
>parts under the cowling were broken by the shaking.
>
>Michelle (Two engine failures in 15 years and counting)

Excellent job! Two thumbs (one slightly mangled) up!

TC

[Larry Dighera]

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 00:39:25 GMT, Matt Whiting >
wrote in >::

>Larry Dighera wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:31:16 GMT, Matt Whiting >
>> wrote in >::
>>
>>
>>>>If I am every man's dream how come i cannot find the right one?
>>
>>
>> What qualities and qualifications must the "right one" possess for
>> your to perceive him as being right?
>
>Larry, you need to exercise more care in your posts. I wrote nothing
>above, yet you have it attributed to me.
>
>Matt

You are absolutely correct.

I just upgraded to a new version of Forte Agent. In the past, Agent
always got the attribution correctly, but perhaps there is a bug in
the new version. Here is the correct quote:

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 18:23:20 GMT, Michelle P
> wrote in
t>::

>If I am every man's dream how come i cannot find the right one?

[AJ]

Michelle: You made it unhurt and in one piece -- excellent piloting.
You go, girl!

AJ

[Private]

"Michelle P" > wrote in message
nk.net...
> Stubby,
> Thank You,
> If I am every man's dream how come i cannot find the right one? I seem to
> scare a lot off because I am more competent than they in a lot of areas.
> Modest aren't I?
> Michelle
>

Good job.

I have a friend who asks the same question as you. She is young(ish),
hardbody, has her own aircraft (four place retract?) which she earned by
operating her own mountain sports equipment store. She has nice dogs, is
intelligent and nice to talk with and would certainly have my undivided
attention if I did not have a similar partner of over thirty years.

Happy landings,

[Jack Allison]

Great Post Michelle, glad to hear that everything worked out.


--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-IA Student
Arrow N2104T

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

(Remove the obvious from address to reply via e-mail)

[Michelle P]

Thank You,
It is a High wing. C172N.
Michelle

Montblack wrote:

> [Maule Driver]
>
>>> Nicely done and great story! Thanks.
>>>
>>> What is the fixed wing that you fly on the job?
>>
>
> ("Michelle P" wrote)
>
>> Thanks You,
>> It was not mine. It was the companies.
>> We run these things to death and they keep on running. (Usually)
>
>
>
> {Montblack}
> I'll take it from here Maule Driver.
>
> BTW, nice write up MP.
>
> High wing?

[Michelle P]

Thanks,
Fly or die.... That is the way I look at it.
It is hard to get lost when you have to know where you are at all times.
Washington Dc ADIZ/FRZ airspace is always changing. It reinforced my
belief that you always need to know where the closest airport is and
which direction. This was easy since we had just passed it and we were
still talking to the tower controller.
Michelle

Orval Fairbairn wrote:

>
>
>You dine good!
>
>You followed the aviator's three primary rules:
>1. Aviate (Fly the damn airplane!)
>2. Navigate.
>3. Communicate.
>
>#2 and #3 are no good if you aren't flying the airplane.
>#3 doesn't do a lot of good if you don't know where you are.
>
>

[Michelle P]

Had the engine not continued enough power to keep us airborne, we would
have made the evening news. I talked to my observer when we went out and
flew the afternoon run. We were both looking at 95S at Lorton, Va as a
quite likely landing site. The Fairfax County parkway was option as
well. The old Fort Belvior proving grounds was an option as well. It had
grown up significantly in the last few years. The airplane would not
have been flyable if we had landed there. I would much rather hit trees
rolling out than Cars. Trees are predicable. They do not move
un-expectedly and I can try to point the fuselage between two of them
and take the hit in the wings.

Michelle

Ross Richardson wrote:

> You never know how you will act in an emergency. In 1973 I lost an
> engine and came to a successful landing, except it was off airport.
>
>
> -------------
> Regards, Ross
> C-172F 180HP
> KSWI
>
>
> Longworth wrote:
>
>> Michelle,
>> Well done. I wish that I could be as calm and competent as you were
>> in handling emergency situations. Glad to hear of the good outcome.
>>
>> Hai Longworth
>>

[Michelle P]

Gerald,
I was shaking after I got out of the plane. Once the adrenaline stopped
running. I seriously felt like a nap. They have a very comfortable lounge.

They cleared me to land. I do not think any mentioned a runway number.
If they did, I did not hear it. I was landing on the closest runway.
I asked about getting a copy of the tower recording. I am going to
contact the manager on monday to see if that is possible.

Michelle

Gerald Sylvester wrote:

> Michelle -
> Thanks for the write up. Great job. I'm usually shaken
> up when I make a normal landing (just kidding). I can't imagine
> what I'd be like during something like this.
> BTW, did they clear you for runway 05 or just runway 5.
> (or whatever it was)? Just kidding.
>
> Gerald
>
>
> Michelle P wrote:
>
>>

[Michelle P]

1970s C172N

Mike wrote:

>Glad to hear everything worked out OK. What year/type AC?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

[Sylvain]

Michelle P wrote:
> rolling out than Cars. Trees are predicable. They do not move
> un-expectedly and I can try to point the fuselage between two of them
> and take the hit in the wings.

I did that once (though it was kinda unplanned); I would
not recommend it (might be ok if already on the ground and
slowing down, not when airborne)

--Sylvain

[[email protected]]

Private wrote:
> "Michelle P" > wrote in message
> nk.net...
> > Stubby,
> > Thank You,
> > If I am every man's dream how come i cannot find the right one? I seem to
> > scare a lot off because I am more competent than they in a lot of areas.
> > Modest aren't I?
> > Michelle
> >
>
> Good job.
>
> I have a friend who asks the same question as you. She is young(ish),
> hardbody, has her own aircraft (four place retract?) which she earned by
> operating her own mountain sports equipment store. She has nice dogs, is
> intelligent and nice to talk with and would certainly have my undivided
> attention if I did not have a similar partner of over thirty years.

It's been my experience that women have a much tougher time "dating
down" than men do. Women strongly prefer men who are more
powerful/successful than they are and when you get a lady like your
friend the pool gets really small. Meanwhile the men in that pool have
no problem marrying their secretaries so the odds are doubly bad.

-cwk.

[Michelle P]

Larry,
I am looking for someone who is not on a power trip, out to prove
something. I.e. Full of them self. Interested in airplanes or flying.
Light drinker to non-drinker, non-smoker.
Beyond that I am pretty flexible.
I like to stay busy, Outside mostly. Kayaking (touring), I weld, Work on
my own airplane, not cars unless necessary. I have been know to build
houses (Habitat for Humanity), Donate my time to other charitable
causes, and make sawdust in the basement. I spent today cleaning and
staining the deck.

That is a good start.....

Michelle

Larry Dighera wrote:

>On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:31:16 GMT, Matt Whiting >
>wrote in >::
>
>
>
>>>If I am every man's dream how come i cannot find the right one?
>>>
>>>
>
>What qualities and qualifications must the "right one" possess for
>your to perceive him as being right?
>
>

[W P Dixon]

Well heck!,
You sound like a keeper to me Michelle. I had to give up the whitewater
kayaking, it was just way to much on my bum leg. But I'd still like to kayak
, maybe I'll break down one of these days and get another boat! And you know
in the aviation industry meeting anybody who is not full of themself is
going to be the hard part! ;) You'll find him.... most of the time when you
aren't looking!

Patrick
student SP
aircraft structural mech

"Michelle P" > wrote in message
nk.net...
> Larry,
> I am looking for someone who is not on a power trip, out to prove
> something. I.e. Full of them self. Interested in airplanes or flying.
> Light drinker to non-drinker, non-smoker.
> Beyond that I am pretty flexible.
> I like to stay busy, Outside mostly. Kayaking (touring), I weld, Work on
> my own airplane, not cars unless necessary. I have been know to build
> houses (Habitat for Humanity), Donate my time to other charitable causes,
> and make sawdust in the basement. I spent today cleaning and staining the
> deck.
>
> That is a good start.....
>
> Michelle
>
> Larry Dighera wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:31:16 GMT, Matt Whiting >
>>wrote in >::
>>
>>
>>>>If I am every man's dream how come i cannot find the right one?
>>>>
>>
>>What qualities and qualifications must the "right one" possess for
>>your to perceive him as being right?
>>

[Michael Houghton]

Howdy!

In article >,
Stubby > wrote:
>Michelle P wrote:
>> I used the E-word today. At 08:30 EDT this morning over the Springfield
>> Mixing bowl just south of Washington DC, I declared and emergency.
>>
[snip]
>
> Was it Andrews AFB where you landed?
>
Nope. Davison Army Airfield is on the grounds of Fort Belvoir, about six miles
south of the I-95/Beltway intersection.

I drive through the mixing bowl every day...the prospect of making an
off-airport landing in that area is daunting.

yours,
Michael

--
Michael and MJ Houghton | Herveus d'Ormonde and Megan O'Donnelly
| White Wolf and the Phoenix
Bowie, MD, USA | Tablet and Inkle bands, and other stuff
| http://www.radix.net/~herveus/wwap/

[Larry Dighera]

>Larry Dighera wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 Michelle P >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>If I am every man's dream how come i cannot find the right one?
>>>>
>>
>>What qualities and qualifications must the "right one" possess for
>>your to perceive him as being right?
>>
>>
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:48:03 GMT, Michelle P
> wrote in
t>::

>Larry,
>I am looking for someone who is not on a power trip, out to prove
>something. I.e. Full of them self.

Right. The truly superior don't need to act superior; their
superiority is tacitly apparent. It is those who feel inferior who
need to constantly assert their pseudo superiority.

Of course, many cultures (ours included to some extent despite the
progress made in the last few decades) demand the man to be the leader
in the relationship, and the woman to be subservient to his will. As
a rather extreme example, I can recall seeing a man walking along the
road in Mexico City in the '60s with his wife trailing several paces
behind. This "old world" thinking is anathema to an independent
woman, and it is a poor substitute for true collaboration. But it
does impose some subtle expectations on both individuals in a
relationship. I doubt that is what you are referring to, but it's a
matter that needs to be worked out explicitly, so that no one has
unreasonable expectations.

>Interested in airplanes or flying.

Would you settle for supportive of your aviation activities? Not that
it's impossible to find a man with an airmans certificate who doesn't
need to prove he's superior, but selecting from a larger pool might be
more realistic.

I've had the pleasure of a long relationship with an aviatrix (in the
past now), and I didn't find it significantly more harmonious nor
fulfilling than a relationship with a SO who just enjoys traveling the
Victor airways in pursuit of new experiences. What really makes a
difference is an attitude of eagerness, willing participation, and
enjoyment of flight as a means of transportation, rather than
apprehension and discouragement.

>Light drinker to non-drinker, non-smoker.

That is a wise requirement. Over time those things tend to grow in
magnitude. And it's reasonably safe to presume, that alcohol tends to
induce a certain amount of aggressive behavior and accentuate any
latent machismo the man may possess. Most folks tend to find the
resulting boorish behavior repugnant.

>Beyond that I am pretty flexible.

If it's not too presumptuous, I would suspect that intelligence
matching or exceeding yours, the ability to command an income adequate
to support a family, and the desire for children might also be veiled
longings buried beneath the conscious.

What are your long-term goals?

>I like to stay busy, Outside mostly. Kayaking (touring),

So you'd probably find someone who lacked physical conditioning and
stamina less than desirable.

>I weld, Work on my own airplane, not cars unless necessary. I have
>been know to build houses (Habitat for Humanity), Donate my time to
>other charitable causes, and make sawdust in the basement. I spent
>today cleaning and staining the deck.

So constructive physical activity appears to be a mainstay for you.
What man who enjoys working with his hands wouldn't welcome someone
with your industry and skills?

>That is a good start.....
>
>Michelle
>

Although you haven't mentioned it, I'd guess you have a cerebral side
as well. What about the arts and theater, philosophy; do you have any
interest in those sort of activities? Is sociality with friends and
family something you need?

There are a few major attributes we've failed to mention also:

1. Race
2. Religion or lack thereof
3. Height
4. Weight
5. Marital status and dependent children
6. Criminal record
7. Appearance
8. Fidelity
9. Honesty
...

[Jay Honeck]

>I am not how I would have handled this say 1500 or so hours ago. Experience
>has built my confidence. I am a lot more comfortable on the flight deck and
>abnormal things do not upset me as much as they used too.

I know I'm late to the show here, but great job, Michelle!

A rough engine is a scary thing. It's only happened once to me, and I still
had five (of six) cylinders pulling strong, but it sure seemed to take
forever to get on the ground. At the same time, I had to keep reminding
myself not to *rush* things, cuz that's when we make mistakes.

Glad it worked out well.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"