Emergency airports

[Paul kgyy]

After hurricanes and earthquakes, it appears that often the airports
become operable before highways and railroads for emergency supplies.

It seems to me that a reasonable (required?) part of ANY community
planning for emergencies in areas subject to these kinds of disasters
should be thoughtful location of a small airport with 1 runway and
plenty of area for parking while unloading.

Perhaps "thoughtful" combined with political action is an oxymoron,
however.

[sfb]

Not for Katrina, the FAA had to truck in equipment before opening some
of the airports. The relief types have said that nothing beats the
bandwidth of 18 wheelers which go directly where needed such as the
Superdome where despite what was reported in the media FEMA delivered
food and water Monday afternoon.

can be a
"Paul kgyy" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> After hurricanes and earthquakes, it appears that often the airports
> become operable before highways and railroads for emergency supplies.
>
> It seems to me that a reasonable (required?) part of ANY community
> planning for emergencies in areas subject to these kinds of disasters
> should be thoughtful location of a small airport with 1 runway and
> plenty of area for parking while unloading.
>
> Perhaps "thoughtful" combined with political action is an oxymoron,
> however.
>

[Steve Foley]

Except for when the 18 wheelers go to Ft Lauderdale and run out of fuel. No
electricity means no working gas pumps.


"sfb" > wrote in message news:P67af.8809$N73.5346@trnddc04...
> Not for Katrina, the FAA had to truck in equipment before opening some
> of the airports. The relief types have said that nothing beats the
> bandwidth of 18 wheelers which go directly where needed such as the
> Superdome where despite what was reported in the media FEMA delivered
> food and water Monday afternoon.
>
> can be a
> "Paul kgyy" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
> > After hurricanes and earthquakes, it appears that often the airports
> > become operable before highways and railroads for emergency supplies.
> >
> > It seems to me that a reasonable (required?) part of ANY community
> > planning for emergencies in areas subject to these kinds of disasters
> > should be thoughtful location of a small airport with 1 runway and
> > plenty of area for parking while unloading.
> >
> > Perhaps "thoughtful" combined with political action is an oxymoron,
> > however.
> >
>
>

[A Guy Called Tyketto]

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Paul kgyy > wrote:
> After hurricanes and earthquakes, it appears that often the airports
> become operable before highways and railroads for emergency supplies.
>
> It seems to me that a reasonable (required?) part of ANY community
> planning for emergencies in areas subject to these kinds of disasters
> should be thoughtful location of a small airport with 1 runway and
> plenty of area for parking while unloading.
>
> Perhaps "thoughtful" combined with political action is an oxymoron,
> however.

On a side note to this, I really like what Paul Freeman has
been doing in charting/finding all the old abandoned/unused airfields
and showing them on his site. He has the mindset that outside the
history of the field in question, if he is ever in a bind and needs to
land and can't make it to the closest active field, he could put down
at one that has been abandoned or not used anymore, and consider it no
small sacrifice. Granted, there would be investigations and such with
it, but hey, he could land, and walk away with his life, which is good.

His site is at http://www.airfields-freeman.com . It's a pretty
good read, and he keeps it rather updated. Perhaps those communities in
the planning stages that happen to be in/around an old airfield may
take this into consideration.

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[sfb]

If mankind lets a failure stop progress, the wheel would yet to be
invented.

"Steve Foley" > wrote in message
news:li7af.2592$Ar5.367@trndny01...
> Except for when the 18 wheelers go to Ft Lauderdale and run out of
> fuel. No
> electricity means no working gas pumps.
>
>
> "sfb" > wrote in message
> news:P67af.8809$N73.5346@trnddc04...
>> Not for Katrina, the FAA had to truck in equipment before opening
>> some
>> of the airports. The relief types have said that nothing beats the
>> bandwidth of 18 wheelers which go directly where needed such as the
>> Superdome where despite what was reported in the media FEMA delivered
>> food and water Monday afternoon.
>>
>> can be a
>> "Paul kgyy" > wrote in message
>> ups.com...
>> > After hurricanes and earthquakes, it appears that often the
>> > airports
>> > become operable before highways and railroads for emergency
>> > supplies.
>> >
>> > It seems to me that a reasonable (required?) part of ANY community
>> > planning for emergencies in areas subject to these kinds of
>> > disasters
>> > should be thoughtful location of a small airport with 1 runway and
>> > plenty of area for parking while unloading.
>> >
>> > Perhaps "thoughtful" combined with political action is an oxymoron,
>> > however.
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

[Steve Foley]

I think I need to know your definition of a GA airport. Your earlier post
regarding GA security was clearly at an air carrier airport. Now you're
talking about turbo props and jets.

My idea of a GA airport is a 1900 foot strip with a gas pump.



"Skylune" > wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...


> This whole argument again demonstrates the schizophrenia affecting the
> industry. On the one hand, GA airports don't need security or ADIZs
> because of the limited payload of the planes (AOPA BS of course, since
> jets and turbo props are GA planes). On the other hand, more airports
> s/b
> built to move supplies in the event of national emegency. Outstanding!
>
> How much good did light GA do after Katrina (yeah, some one off stories
> about Angel Flights are easy enough to Google, but what about real relief
> to thousands? Light aircraft are useless. Trucks, large cargo transport
> planes, or military HELICOPTERs are the way to go here.
>
> Small planes are mostly for training, amusement, or crop dusting in most
> of the lower 48. I can see such an argument for very remote areas such
> as
> Alaska. Of course, my tax $ are going to build a bridge in Ketchikan, so
> maybe...
>

[Skywise]

"Skylune" > wrote in
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> by A Guy Called Tyketto > Nov 2, 2005 at
> 06:30 PM
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> Paul kgyy > wrote:
>> After hurricanes and earthquakes, it appears that often the airports
>> become operable before highways and railroads for emergency supplies.
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<Snipola>

I don't know what you use to post your messages with, but there is
nothing in your messages delineating quoted messages and your own
content. As you can see by my own post, the newsreader automatically
puts in '>' symbols to indicate what is a quote.

You're messages are difficult to read due to that lack of this. One
has to scan the whole message trying to find where the previous quote
ends and your new message begins. If someone reads your message without
having read the previous one that you quoted, they will have no way
to know what text is yours or not. People may erroneously attribute
text to you that you did not write.

Brian
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[Skylune]

by "Steve Foley" > Nov 2, 2005 at 08:01 PM


I think I need to know your definition of a GA airport. Your earlier post
regarding GA security was clearly at an air carrier airport. Now you're
talking about turbo props and jets.

My idea of a GA airport is a 1900 foot strip with a gas pump."

Steve: I like your definition much better than the FAAs! Huge budget
savings would result from a simple redefinition of GA airports (those with
short grass strips). That would help the FAA budget tremendously, and
maybe would eliminate the argument for FAA user fees!