Airport/Hangar Home

[Jeff]

I am trying to buy a piece of property that will allow me to have a
3000' (or so) grass runway. We would build a house on the property
that would be our only residence. I have been looking around for some
home plans that incorporate a hangar attached to the home, but have not
had much success. I have found a few pictures of hangar doors on
airport homes, but that is about it. Short of hiring a designer, do
you know of any resources or web site with examples of airport homes?

Thanks,
Jeff

[Cy Galley]

Ask Steve Beert

"Jeff" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>I am trying to buy a piece of property that will allow me to have a
> 3000' (or so) grass runway. We would build a house on the property
> that would be our only residence. I have been looking around for some
> home plans that incorporate a hangar attached to the home, but have not
> had much success. I have found a few pictures of hangar doors on
> airport homes, but that is about it. Short of hiring a designer, do
> you know of any resources or web site with examples of airport homes?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>

[Steve Foley]

Search google for airparks.

"Jeff" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> I am trying to buy a piece of property that will allow me to have a
> 3000' (or so) grass runway. We would build a house on the property
> that would be our only residence. I have been looking around for some
> home plans that incorporate a hangar attached to the home, but have not
> had much success. I have found a few pictures of hangar doors on
> airport homes, but that is about it. Short of hiring a designer, do
> you know of any resources or web site with examples of airport homes?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>

[wmbjk]

On 2 Nov 2005 11:10:32 -0800, "Jeff" >
wrote:

>I am trying to buy a piece of property that will allow me to have a
>3000' (or so) grass runway. We would build a house on the property
>that would be our only residence. I have been looking around for some
>home plans that incorporate a hangar attached to the home, but have not
>had much success. I have found a few pictures of hangar doors on
>airport homes, but that is about it. Short of hiring a designer, do
>you know of any resources or web site with examples of airport homes?
>
>Thanks,
>Jeff

Floor plan of our home with attached 40X50' hangar/shop/garage.
http://www.citlink.net/~wmbjk/images/floorplan.jpg Three sectional
overhead doors with 2 removable mullions between the doors. 8' plate
height throughout, 40' scissor trusses over hangar. Photo
http://www.citlink.net/~wmbjk/images/misc/house_front.JPG

Wayne

[Lou]

As much as you don't want to have to hire a designer, no architech will
copy someone elses plans due to copyright laws. Your best bet is to sit
down with paper and pencil and start drawing. You could also buy a
program like 3-D architech. This is a good cheap program that is easy
and forgiving. Then, take your ideas, and a list of wants and needs to
an architech. Be sure to call a bunch first for cost, they run night
and day.

[Orval Fairbairn]

In article . com>,
"Jeff" > wrote:

> I am trying to buy a piece of property that will allow me to have a
> 3000' (or so) grass runway. We would build a house on the property
> that would be our only residence. I have been looking around for some
> home plans that incorporate a hangar attached to the home, but have not
> had much success. I have found a few pictures of hangar doors on
> airport homes, but that is about it. Short of hiring a designer, do
> you know of any resources or web site with examples of airport homes?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff

Where are you located? There are some 500 residential airparks in the
US, including the one I live at, Spruce Creek. SC is the largest (and,
IMHO, the best) in the world.

Check for openers.

[Scott]

Up North here (WI) there is a guy who has built two houses INSIDE of
hangars (metal pole buildings). Send me your email address and I will
get some pictures of his houses. His new one is awesome!

My email is acepilot at bloomer dot net

Scott



Jeff wrote:

> I am trying to buy a piece of property that will allow me to have a
> 3000' (or so) grass runway. We would build a house on the property
> that would be our only residence. I have been looking around for some
> home plans that incorporate a hangar attached to the home, but have not
> had much success. I have found a few pictures of hangar doors on
> airport homes, but that is about it. Short of hiring a designer, do
> you know of any resources or web site with examples of airport homes?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>

[.Blueskies.]

"Lou" > wrote in message oups.com...
> As much as you don't want to have to hire a designer, no architech will
> copy someone elses plans due to copyright laws. Your best bet is to sit
> down with paper and pencil and start drawing. You could also buy a
> program like 3-D architech. This is a good cheap program that is easy
> and forgiving. Then, take your ideas, and a list of wants and needs to
> an architech. Be sure to call a bunch first for cost, they run night
> and day.
>

Our find a good builder. Codes vary across the country, but our builder was able to take our 2300 sq ft house plan and
build straight from it...

[.Blueskies.]

"Jeff" > wrote in message oups.com...
>I am trying to buy a piece of property that will allow me to have a
> 3000' (or so) grass runway. We would build a house on the property
> that would be our only residence. I have been looking around for some
> home plans that incorporate a hangar attached to the home, but have not
> had much success. I have found a few pictures of hangar doors on
> airport homes, but that is about it. Short of hiring a designer, do
> you know of any resources or web site with examples of airport homes?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>

Are you really sure you want the house and hangar together? Insurance can be higher and some building codes limit the
size of 'garages'. You will want as big a hangar as you can afford to build and heat...

[Orval Fairbairn]

In article >,
".Blueskies." > wrote:

> "Jeff" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> >I am trying to buy a piece of property that will allow me to have a
> > 3000' (or so) grass runway. We would build a house on the property
> > that would be our only residence. I have been looking around for some
> > home plans that incorporate a hangar attached to the home, but have not
> > had much success. I have found a few pictures of hangar doors on
> > airport homes, but that is about it. Short of hiring a designer, do
> > you know of any resources or web site with examples of airport homes?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jeff
> >
>
> Are you really sure you want the house and hangar together? Insurance can be
> higher and some building codes limit the
> size of 'garages'. You will want as big a hangar as you can afford to build
> and heat...

Here in FL the hangar (with home) is part of your homestead and gives
you some major property tax advantages. Property taxes can only be
raised 3%/year on homestead property, while "commercial" property is
taxed at "full market value."

This has hurt a lot of people who purchased hangars a few years ago and
now see their property taxes on their hangars exceeding the taxes on
their homes!

[Steve Easudes]

I'm a Realtor in Michigan and we have a similar "homestead" law. In MI
not only is there a cap on your taxable value, you pay less millage
also. There are several runway communities around here (southeast MI)
and some people attach their hangars and others don't. The law says that
the land and all buildings on that piece of land form your "homestead"
so there is no tax advantage for an attached hangar.

Steve Easudes
Surovell Realtors

[Jeff]

Spent 3 hours looking through google hits for airparks. Found lots of
information on airparks, but only one home plane and it was something
like 7000 SF plus the hangar space.

[Jeff]

Thanks Wayne that is very nice.

Jeff

[Jeff]

I live in Rolla, MO. It looks like there are a lot of very nice
airparks around the US. I am not really looking for an airpark to live
in. I want to put a grass strip on my own piece of land and build a
house on it. I might sell off a few large lots (10-40 acres) to other
pilots looking for something similar to help reduce the overal cost.
The land here in south central MO is kind of hilly and there are not
many good locations for grass strips.

Jeff

[Jeff]

No I am not positive. No real building codes to speak of where I will
be building. I do not even have to get a building permit. Insurance
may be a concern, but if I build a house with attached hangar, the
hangar will really not be much larger than a standard 3 car
garage.....I will have to check this out. I do not think there is any
way that I could ever have too much space. I think no matter how big
the hangar is, I would come up with a way to fill it up with something.

Jeff

[Lou]

Jeff,
I found the website your looking for.
www.livingwithyourplane.com

You may have to join for a year at about $20

[Steve Foley]

This one's not as good as I thought. This was a place where I went to a
cook-out this past summer. (This picture is from the previous year).


http://xcski.com/gallery/Dave-Jablon-BBQ/113_1339


"Jeff" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Spent 3 hours looking through google hits for airparks. Found lots of
> information on airparks, but only one home plane and it was something
> like 7000 SF plus the hangar space.
>

[W P Dixon]

I have exactly that problem now! I watch my little one during the day and
when the wife gets home from work we eat and she is usually getting ready
for bed , or at least the wee one. My hangar is the basement right now and
well ...rivet guns make alot of noise, so she tells me ! ;)

Patrick
student SP
aircraft structural mech

"Morgans" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Steve Easudes" > wrote in message
> nk.net...
>> I'm a Realtor in Michigan and we have a similar "homestead" law. In MI
>> not only is there a cap on your taxable value, you pay less millage
>> also. There are several runway communities around here (southeast MI)
>> and some people attach their hangars and others don't. The law says that
>> the land and all buildings on that piece of land form your "homestead"
>> so there is no tax advantage for an attached hangar.
>
> Personally, I would not be in favor of building an attached hangar.
>
> My wife likes to retire early, while I like to stay up late. If I wanted
> to
> work on something, I would have to worry about making too much noise.
> Fumes
> would be another thing that would be a problem with an attached shop.
>
> A short walkway to the hangar would be all that is needed to isolate noise
> and smells.
> --
> Jim in NC
>

[Morgans]

"Steve Easudes" > wrote in message
nk.net...
> I'm a Realtor in Michigan and we have a similar "homestead" law. In MI
> not only is there a cap on your taxable value, you pay less millage
> also. There are several runway communities around here (southeast MI)
> and some people attach their hangars and others don't. The law says that
> the land and all buildings on that piece of land form your "homestead"
> so there is no tax advantage for an attached hangar.

Personally, I would not be in favor of building an attached hangar.

My wife likes to retire early, while I like to stay up late. If I wanted to
work on something, I would have to worry about making too much noise. Fumes
would be another thing that would be a problem with an attached shop.

A short walkway to the hangar would be all that is needed to isolate noise
and smells.
--
Jim in NC

[Jeff]

Thanks Lou. I saw this web site, but did not thoroughly read all the
details. I plunked down the $20 to give it a shot.

Jeff

[.Blueskies.]

"Orval Fairbairn" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> ".Blueskies." > wrote:
>
>> "Jeff" > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>> >I am trying to buy a piece of property that will allow me to have a
>> > 3000' (or so) grass runway. We would build a house on the property
>> > that would be our only residence. I have been looking around for some
>> > home plans that incorporate a hangar attached to the home, but have not
>> > had much success. I have found a few pictures of hangar doors on
>> > airport homes, but that is about it. Short of hiring a designer, do
>> > you know of any resources or web site with examples of airport homes?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Jeff
>> >
>>
>> Are you really sure you want the house and hangar together? Insurance can be
>> higher and some building codes limit the
>> size of 'garages'. You will want as big a hangar as you can afford to build
>> and heat...
>
> Here in FL the hangar (with home) is part of your homestead and gives
> you some major property tax advantages. Property taxes can only be
> raised 3%/year on homestead property, while "commercial" property is
> taxed at "full market value."
>
> This has hurt a lot of people who purchased hangars a few years ago and
> now see their property taxes on their hangars exceeding the taxes on
> their homes!

I didn't mean to build the hanger at some far away place, I meant to keep it separate from the house but on the same
parcel; certainly not as some commercial venture...

[.Blueskies.]

"Jeff" > wrote in message oups.com...
> Thanks Lou. I saw this web site, but did not thoroughly read all the
> details. I plunked down the $20 to give it a shot.
>
> Jeff
>

Let me know what you see. We live at 4N0 in SW Michigan, 2300 sq ft house, 2300 sq ft hangar ;-)

[[email protected]]

On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 00:34:49 GMT, ".Blueskies."
> wrote:

>
>"Orval Fairbairn" > wrote in message
...
>> In article >,
>> ".Blueskies." > wrote:
>>
>>> "Jeff" > wrote in message
>>> oups.com...
>>> >I am trying to buy a piece of property that will allow me to have a
>>> > 3000' (or so) grass runway. We would build a house on the property
>>> > that would be our only residence. I have been looking around for some
>>> > home plans that incorporate a hangar attached to the home, but have not
>>> > had much success. I have found a few pictures of hangar doors on
>>> > airport homes, but that is about it. Short of hiring a designer, do
>>> > you know of any resources or web site with examples of airport homes?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Jeff
>>> >
>>>
>>> Are you really sure you want the house and hangar together? Insurance can be
>>> higher and some building codes limit the
>>> size of 'garages'. You will want as big a hangar as you can afford to build
>>> and heat...
>>
>> Here in FL the hangar (with home) is part of your homestead and gives
>> you some major property tax advantages. Property taxes can only be
>> raised 3%/year on homestead property, while "commercial" property is
>> taxed at "full market value."
>>
>> This has hurt a lot of people who purchased hangars a few years ago and
>> now see their property taxes on their hangars exceeding the taxes on
>> their homes!
>
>I didn't mean to build the hanger at some far away place, I meant to keep it separate from the house but on the same
>parcel; certainly not as some commercial venture...
>
In Canada, a hangar at an airstrip for personal non-commercial
aircraft is apparently not taxable by the municipa;lity, because an
aerodrome is federal. A house built on the property for the purpose of
maintaining an airstrip is likewize non taxable, from what I've been
told.

[wright1902glider]

Our here in the country, it seems you just find an old farmhouse with a
big 'ole honkin' barn (my uncle's is 64'x192') and make 'urself a very
long "driveway" or very flat "cow pasture." Lots of "STOLports" in the
area too.

You might try some of the very small airports in your area as well as a
flight park. One of our county airports has a few hangar-homes ajacent
to it.

Harry

[[email protected]]

Living With Your Plane is an offshoot of the Western Flyer aviation
newspaper. They publish a listing of airparks once a year in the
newspaper. Don't know which issue, though.

David Johnson

[Stuart & Kathryn Fields]

Jeff: Way back in the 70's I built an EconoStar metal bldg that was 40X72.
At one end I built a 24X40 living quarters with a complete basement of the
same size, plus a matching sized attic above. The house was built
completely inside the metal building. This gave me a 48X40 hangar. The
building had 14' ceiling. While I'm not setting on a runway, I do have a
helipad just outside the 30' sliding shop doors. There has been essentially
zero building maintenance since it was erected. My house walls are
insulated and noise from the shop doesn't seem to be a big problem. It is
so handy if it is raining or wind blowing to just walk out the back door
into the shop. Living in Southern Ca. we have had winds in the 80 mph and
earthquakes. To date..No problem. If I did it again, I would add a little
more to both living and shop spaces.
My wife doesn't want a separate shop building. She has her Clay pottery
equipment in one corner and we are planning on expanding the shop building
to give her more room. Part of our living quarters has been taken up in the
publishing of the Experimental Helo magazine and an expansion of the living
area is also being planned. We thoroughly enjoy our integral shop/house
design. A picture of the shop, helipad and our helicopter is on the
www.acehelicopter.com website under photos and award winners.

good luck with your search.

--
Stuart Fields
Experimental Helo magazine
P. O. Box 1585
Inyokern, CA 93527
(760) 377-4478
(760) 408-9747 general and layout cell
(760) 608-1299 technical and advertising cell

www.vkss.com
www.experimentalhelo.com


"Jeff" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> I am trying to buy a piece of property that will allow me to have a
> 3000' (or so) grass runway. We would build a house on the property
> that would be our only residence. I have been looking around for some
> home plans that incorporate a hangar attached to the home, but have not
> had much success. I have found a few pictures of hangar doors on
> airport homes, but that is about it. Short of hiring a designer, do
> you know of any resources or web site with examples of airport homes?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>

[Morgans]

"Stuart & Kathryn Fields" > wrote
> A picture of the shop, helipad and our helicopter is on the
> www.acehelicopter.com website under photos and award winners.

I don't see a place linking photos or awards. Suggestions?
--
Jim in NC

[Montblack]

("Morgans" wrote)
>> A picture of the shop, helipad and our helicopter is on the
>> www.acehelicopter.com website under photos and award winners.

> I don't see a place linking photos or awards. Suggestions?


http://www.acehelicopter.com/builderssite/builderindex.htm

http://www.acehelicopter.com/builderssite/builderindex.htm
On a houseboat.


Montblack

[Darrel Toepfer]

Montblack wrote:
> ("Morgans" wrote)
> > Stuart wrote:
>>> A picture of the shop, helipad and our helicopter is on the
>>> www.acehelicopter.com website under photos and award winners.
>
>> I don't see a place linking photos or awards. Suggestions?
>
> http://www.acehelicopter.com/builderssite/builderindex.htm

Reserve Grand Champions Popular Rotorcraft Association National Meet
2002:
http://www.acehelicopter.com/builderssite/builders/fields/Safari%20completion150.jpg

Frames do have a way of screwing things up. Guess Stuart needed a few
hits on the website...

[Darrel Toepfer]

Morgans wrote:
> "Darrel Toepfer" > wrote

>>Frames do have a way of screwing things up. Guess Stuart needed a few
>>hits on the website...
>
> I was hoping for an inside shot, but....
> Oh, well!

Might have to subscribe to the publication... ;)

[Morgans]

"Darrel Toepfer" > wrote

> Frames do have a way of screwing things up. Guess Stuart needed a few
> hits on the website...

I was hoping for an inside shot, but....
Oh, well!
--
Jim in NC

[Stuart & Kathryn Fields]

Well, that website is Canadian Home Rotors, the kit manufacturer of the
Safari kit helicopter and is not my website. Also, I have never been asked
for interior photos, but if I get a chance, I'll try to grab a few shots
and make them available on my website.

--
Stuart Fields
Experimental Helo magazine
P. O. Box 1585
Inyokern, CA 93527
(760) 377-4478
(760) 408-9747 general and layout cell
(760) 608-1299 technical and advertising cell

www.vkss.com
www.experimentalhelo.com


"Darrel Toepfer" > wrote in message
. ..
> Morgans wrote:
> > "Darrel Toepfer" > wrote
>
> >>Frames do have a way of screwing things up. Guess Stuart needed a few
> >>hits on the website...
> >
> > I was hoping for an inside shot, but....
> > Oh, well!
>
> Might have to subscribe to the publication... ;)

[Morgans]

"Stuart & Kathryn Fields" > wrote

> Also, I have never been asked
> for interior photos, but if I get a chance, I'll try to grab a few shots
> and make them available on my website.

Thanks! I would love to see how the place looks, from the shop looking
towards the house, and from the house looking out into the shop (hangar). I
might build something like that, someday. Also, if you get the chance, make
a rough sketch of the floor plan, and scan or take a picture of it. It
would just be my wife and me, and a guest room, I'm thinking.
--
Jim in NC