What kind of plane is that on their home page?

[Montblack]

Saw this in AvWeb today (pasted below)
http://www.pilotsharetheride.com/

Two questions:

1. What kind of plane is that on their home page?
2. Has anyone here used this service?


"Although many pilots wouldn't buy a plane with fewer than four seats, the
dirty little secret is that many if not most of us fly alone a lot. An
Arizona ranch hand has introduced a downright neighborly concept for putting
like-minded pilots together that not only helps people out, but can reduce
costs and boost the fun factor. Baldy (which he comes by honestly) Ivy
established PilotShareTheRide a year ago and so far hundreds of pilots have
connected with one another for trips, training and rides around the patch.
"It's about sharing the love of flying and if you can share expenses, then
so much the better." Pilots planning a flight register it on the Web site
and describe their itinerary. If someone happens to be going their way (or
just wants to get up in the air), he or she e-mails the pilot in the posting
and they sort out the details between themselves. Ivy stresses that he's not
arranging flights (that would be Part 135 work), he's just providing a kind
of pilot matchmaking service that leaves it up to the individuals to decide
when and where they fly. There are about 4200 pilots signed up and, at any
one time, about 500 flight postings."

<http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/506-full.html#190928>
(AvWeb story: Ride-Sharing, Aviation Style)


Montblack

[john smith]

In article >,
"Montblack" > wrote:

> http://www.pilotsharetheride.com/

I think it is a Ralley of some kind (French aircraft).

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Maybe French but not a Rallye. They had trailing link nosewheels,
were low winged with moving leading edge slats.

And some of the Aerospatiale Rallyes were made right here in the USA,
shipped over in parts and put together here.

Wonderful airplanes. A friend is going to Texas to pick up a 100 HP
Rallye powered with a Rolls-Royce engine soon. He already has a
Rallye with 220 HP Frankllin engine.

[george]

wrote:
> Maybe French but not a Rallye. They had trailing link nosewheels,
> were low winged with moving leading edge slats.
>
> And some of the Aerospatiale Rallyes were made right here in the USA,
> shipped over in parts and put together here.
>
> Wonderful airplanes. A friend is going to Texas to pick up a 100 HP
> Rallye powered with a Rolls-Royce engine soon. He already has a
> Rallye with 220 HP Frankllin engine.
I have 20 hours in the Rallye Cub and 10 in the Super Rallye.
Only bad thing is those automatic front edge slats on a cross country.
The banging keeps you awake :-)

[[email protected]]

Montblack wrote:
> Saw this in AvWeb today (pasted below)
> http://www.pilotsharetheride.com/
>
> Two questions:
>
> 1. What kind of plane is that on their home page?

It is a French plane, a Robin DR_something to be precise.
Very nice aircraft, very popular on this side of the pond.

By the look of it, it is not equiped with the diesel engine.

-Kees

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In that case you did something wrong or the slats were not rigged
properly.
Keep enough airspeed and those things will stay closed.

-Kees MS880B

[Markus Voget]

wrote:
> Montblack wrote:
>> http://www.pilotsharetheride.com/
>> 1. What kind of plane is that on their home page?
>
> It is a French plane, a Robin DR_something to be precise.
> Very nice aircraft, very popular on this side of the pond.
> By the look of it, it is not equiped with the diesel engine.

It is a wooden construction, thus quite light. After a change in ownership,
the current producer is Apex Aircraft in Darois, France:
http://www.apex-aircraft.com/en/robin/index.htm

As Kees pointed out, they recently introduced a version with the Thielert
Centurion 1.7 aerodiesel. This "Ecoflyer" is currently the cheapest new
aircraft on the market having the latest advances in engine technology.
From what I read elsewhere, the diesel-equipped model already makes up
around 90% of their production. Good news for renters like myself...I would
be thrilled to see one appear in my vicinity in the not-too-distant future.


Greetings,
Markus

[Stefan]

Montblack wrote:

> 1. What kind of plane is that on their home page?

It's a Robin, don't know which type exactly. Robin is a French airplane
and pretty popular in Europe.

http://www.apex-aircraft.com/

Stefan

[Thomas Borchert]

Montblack,

In addition to what Kees said: The Robins can be recognized easily by
the upward canted outer wing section, quite pronounced. Other features:
canopy sliding back and fabric-covered wings.

Same company builds the CAP aerobatic planes. See
http://www.apex-aircraft.com/

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

[Greg Farris]

In article >,
says...
>
>
>Montblack,
>
>In addition to what Kees said: The Robins can be recognized easily by
>the upward canted outer wing section, quite pronounced. Other features:
>canopy sliding back and fabric-covered wings.
>



Other features not advertised :
Wooden structure that has a habit of snapping in midair
Company in receivership (related to above)


>Same company builds the CAP aerobatic planes.

CAP entered liquidation this year.


G Faris

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Ahum Thomas,

The canopy is sliding forward on Robins.

-Kees.

[Thomas Borchert]

Greg,

> Wooden structure that has a habit of snapping in midair
>

BS. But you're right on the other points.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

[Thomas Borchert]

Oops! You're right!

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

[Greg Farris]

In article >, says...
>
>
>Greg,
>
>> Wooden structure that has a habit of snapping in midair
>>
>
>BS. But you're right on the other points.

http://jeunes-ailes.forumactif.com/ftopic442.Accident-d-un-avion-de-tourisme-dans-l-Oise.htm

The problem exists - or existed, and is responsible for at least one crash.
Others are disputed. An emergency AD was issued and IIRC all of these planes were grounded until they could be returned for
inspection. In the end, only a small percentage needed to be "re-glued".


G Faris

[Thomas Borchert]

Greg,

> and is responsible for at least one crash.
>

that's what you call "a habit"? Aah, the number habits Cessnas, Pipers
and Bonanzas have by that count...

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

[Greg Farris]

In article >,
says...
>
>
>Greg,
>
>> and is responsible for at least one crash.
>>
>
>that's what you call "a habit"? Aah, the number habits Cessnas, Pipers
>and Bonanzas have by that count...
>

One confirmed fatal crash. Unconfirmed suspicion for others. Emergency
AD. Undisclosed number "fixed" (the post AD inspections did reveal
others in danger of breaking). If it looks like a habit, feels like a
habit, acts like a habit . . .

GF

[Montblack]

wrote)
> The canopy is sliding forward on Robins.


In (slow) flight? Is that possible with a forward sliding canopy?


Montblack

[Stefan]

Greg Farris wrote:

> http://jeunes-ailes.forumactif.com/ftopic442.Accident-d-un-avion-de-tourisme-dans-l-Oise.htm

Oh how I *love* those references to second hand chit chat when there's
authoritative first hand info available:
http://www.bea-fr.org/docspa/1997/f-qf970622/pdf/f-qf970622.pdf

I'm not aware of any other accidents of Robins which may be related to a
problem of glue voids. There were two accidents with CAP 10, but at that
time, they were still built by an unrelated company (and it wasn't a
glue problem).

As to your claim that there's no info about that accident on the Robin
web site: There is, in the FAQs. And Robin denies that the glue problem
was the cause of the accident. (I can't judge this myself, but of
course, glue voids in the main spar are uncomforting.)

Stefan

[John Godwin]

wrote in news:1131436196.697882.269270
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

> In that case you did something wrong or the slats were not rigged
> properly.
> Keep enough airspeed and those things will stay closed.

If you encounter turbulence, they can deploy since the slats operate on
AOA.

John Godwin
Silicon Rallye Inc.

[george]

wrote:
> In that case you did something wrong or the slats were not rigged
> properly.
> Keep enough airspeed and those things will stay closed.
>
The slats were automatic and New Zealand is a country of very steep
ridges.
Flying across the ridge systems (into wind) the airflow changes
abruptly and so the slats open and shut.
Great machine though.
The Club was restricted to 3 POB here after an accident..
Is there such a restriction on the MS880 in the USA ?

[john smith]

In article >,
Greg Farris > wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> >
> >
> >Greg,
> >
> >> and is responsible for at least one crash.
> >>
> >
> >that's what you call "a habit"? Aah, the number habits Cessnas, Pipers
> >and Bonanzas have by that count...
> >
>
> One confirmed fatal crash. Unconfirmed suspicion for others. Emergency
> AD. Undisclosed number "fixed" (the post AD inspections did reveal
> others in danger of breaking). If it looks like a habit, feels like a
> habit, acts like a habit . . .

What was the group that made the song, "What Were Once Vices Are Now
Habits"?

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