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Ray Lovinggood
November 15th 05, 10:36 PM
If anyone has information on how to ship a glider OUT
of the USA, please contact me at the e-mail address:

vison at intrex dot net

Thanks,

Ray Lovinggood
Carrboro, North Carolina
USA

01-- Zero One
November 16th 05, 12:02 AM
Don't do it, Ray!!!!! Unless you are going to import 2 more to replace
it..



;-)



Larry





"Ray Lovinggood" > wrote in message
:

> If anyone has information on how to ship a glider OUT
> of the USA, please contact me at the e-mail address:
>
> vison at intrex dot net
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ray Lovinggood
> Carrboro, North Carolina
> USA

Ray Lovinggood
November 16th 05, 01:28 AM
Larry,

If only I could...

Now, what I should have given the subject line is:

'How to ship a glider out of the USA and ship it back
after it has been spiffied up?'

I am trying to price out the cost for shipping my LS1-d
to eastern Europe (Poland? Slovenia? ???) for a refinish
and shipping it back with its new finish (gel coat???
polyurethane???) in a new trailer.

Anyone in America have useful information?

Thanks,

Ray Lovinggood
Carrboro, North Carolina, USA
Where really good thermals might average 5 knots...


At 00:06 16 November 2005, 01-- Zero One wrote:
>Don't do it, Ray!!!!! Unless you are going to import
>2 more to replace
>it..
>
>
>
>;-)
>
>
>
>Larry
>
>
>
>
>
>'Ray Lovinggood' wrote in message
:
>
>> If anyone has information on how to ship a glider
>>OUT
>> of the USA, please contact me at the e-mail address:
>>
>> vison at intrex dot net
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ray Lovinggood
>> Carrboro, North Carolina
>> USA
>
>

David R.
November 16th 05, 03:32 AM
Contact Tom Knauff - he sent some out for refinish last year or the year
before.


dave r.


"Ray Lovinggood" > wrote in message
...
> If anyone has information on how to ship a glider OUT
> of the USA, please contact me at the e-mail address:
>
> vison at intrex dot net
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ray Lovinggood
> Carrboro, North Carolina
> USA
>
>
>
>

01-- Zero One
November 16th 05, 04:47 AM
Cool!!!!



Larry



"Ray Lovinggood" > wrote in message
:

> Larry,
>
> If only I could...
>
> Now, what I should have given the subject line is:
>
> 'How to ship a glider out of the USA and ship it back
> after it has been spiffied up?'
>
> I am trying to price out the cost for shipping my LS1-d
> to eastern Europe (Poland? Slovenia? ???) for a refinish
> and shipping it back with its new finish (gel coat???
> polyurethane???) in a new trailer.
>
> Anyone in America have useful information?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ray Lovinggood
> Carrboro, North Carolina, USA
> Where really good thermals might average 5 knots...
>
>
> At 00:06 16 November 2005, 01-- Zero One wrote:
> >Don't do it, Ray!!!!! Unless you are going to import
> >2 more to replace
> >it..
> >
> >
> >
> >;-)
> >
> >
> >
> >Larry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >'Ray Lovinggood' wrote in message
> :
> >
> >> If anyone has information on how to ship a glider
> >>OUT
> >> of the USA, please contact me at the e-mail address:
> >>
> >> vison at intrex dot net
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Ray Lovinggood
> >> Carrboro, North Carolina
> >> USA
> >
> >

BTIZ
November 16th 05, 05:41 AM
is it cheaper to pay freight to ship overseas and return for refinish
than it is to have a "local" shop in the US do the refinish?

BT

"Ray Lovinggood" > wrote in message
...
> Larry,
>
> If only I could...
>
> Now, what I should have given the subject line is:
>
> 'How to ship a glider out of the USA and ship it back
> after it has been spiffied up?'
>
> I am trying to price out the cost for shipping my LS1-d
> to eastern Europe (Poland? Slovenia? ???) for a refinish
> and shipping it back with its new finish (gel coat???
> polyurethane???) in a new trailer.
>
> Anyone in America have useful information?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ray Lovinggood
> Carrboro, North Carolina, USA
> Where really good thermals might average 5 knots...
>
>
> At 00:06 16 November 2005, 01-- Zero One wrote:
>>Don't do it, Ray!!!!! Unless you are going to import
>>2 more to replace
>>it..
>>
>>
>>
>>;-)
>>
>>
>>
>>Larry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>'Ray Lovinggood' wrote in message
:
>>
>>> If anyone has information on how to ship a glider
>>>OUT
>>> of the USA, please contact me at the e-mail address:
>>>
>>> vison at intrex dot net
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ray Lovinggood
>>> Carrboro, North Carolina
>>> USA
>>
>>
>
>
>

Ray Lovinggood
November 16th 05, 11:35 AM
BT,

I don't know. That's why I'm trying to find out all
about the shipping and possible problems with Customs
and other government agencies I'm sure I've never heard
of. And, of course, shipping costs.

If it ends up too expensive because of shipping costs,
then it will get refinished here, I guess.

I just want to know my options.

Thanks,

Ray Lovinggood


At 05:42 16 November 2005, Btiz wrote:
>is it cheaper to pay freight to ship overseas and return
>for refinish
>than it is to have a 'local' shop in the US do the
>refinish?
>
>BT
>
>'Ray Lovinggood' wrote in message
...
>> Larry,
>>
>> If only I could...
>>
>> Now, what I should have given the subject line is:
>>
>> 'How to ship a glider out of the USA and ship it back
>> after it has been spiffied up?'
>>
>> I am trying to price out the cost for shipping my
>>LS1-d
>> to eastern Europe (Poland? Slovenia? ???) for a
>>refinish
>> and shipping it back with its new finish (gel coat???
>> polyurethane???) in a new trailer.
>>
>> Anyone in America have useful information?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ray Lovinggood
>> Carrboro, North Carolina, USA
>> Where really good thermals might average 5 knots...
>>
>>
>> At 00:06 16 November 2005, 01-- Zero One wrote:
>>>Don't do it, Ray!!!!! Unless you are going to import
>>>2 more to replace
>>>it..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Larry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>'Ray Lovinggood' wrote in message
:
>>>
>>>> If anyone has information on how to ship a glider
>>>>OUT
>>>> of the USA, please contact me at the e-mail address:
>>>>
>>>> vison at intrex dot net
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Ray Lovinggood
>>>> Carrboro, North Carolina
>>>> USA
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Raphael Warshaw
November 16th 05, 02:56 PM
Do you really want to ship all that money overseas? Issues of employment
and balance of payments aside, supporting a local infrastructure of capable
repairmen is, IMHO, worthwhile in and of itself.

Raphael Warshaw
1LK


"Ray Lovinggood" > wrote in message
...
> BT,
>
> I don't know. That's why I'm trying to find out all
> about the shipping and possible problems with Customs
> and other government agencies I'm sure I've never heard
> of. And, of course, shipping costs.
>
> If it ends up too expensive because of shipping costs,
> then it will get refinished here, I guess.
>
> I just want to know my options.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ray Lovinggood
>
>
> At 05:42 16 November 2005, Btiz wrote:
>>is it cheaper to pay freight to ship overseas and return
>>for refinish
>>than it is to have a 'local' shop in the US do the
>>refinish?
>>
>>BT
>>
>>'Ray Lovinggood' wrote in message
...
>>> Larry,
>>>
>>> If only I could...
>>>
>>> Now, what I should have given the subject line is:
>>>
>>> 'How to ship a glider out of the USA and ship it back
>>> after it has been spiffied up?'
>>>
>>> I am trying to price out the cost for shipping my
>>>LS1-d
>>> to eastern Europe (Poland? Slovenia? ???) for a
>>>refinish
>>> and shipping it back with its new finish (gel coat???
>>> polyurethane???) in a new trailer.
>>>
>>> Anyone in America have useful information?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ray Lovinggood
>>> Carrboro, North Carolina, USA
>>> Where really good thermals might average 5 knots...
>>>
>>>
>>> At 00:06 16 November 2005, 01-- Zero One wrote:
>>>>Don't do it, Ray!!!!! Unless you are going to import
>>>>2 more to replace
>>>>it..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Larry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>'Ray Lovinggood' wrote in message
:
>>>>
>>>>> If anyone has information on how to ship a glider
>>>>>OUT
>>>>> of the USA, please contact me at the e-mail address:
>>>>>
>>>>> vison at intrex dot net
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ray Lovinggood
>>>>> Carrboro, North Carolina
>>>>> USA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

November 17th 05, 03:36 AM
Get in touch with Jerzy Szemplinski at the SZD dealership Windpath
(www.windpath.ca) in Canada, he has/had a container going (gone?) with
one ship over for refinish, was looking for a second ship to fill the
container... drive up to Ontario in less than a day.....

November 17th 05, 03:36 AM
Get in touch with Jerzy Szemplinski at the SZD dealership Windpath
(www.windpath.ca) in Canada, he has/had a container going (gone?) with
one ship over for refinish, was looking for a second ship to fill the
container... drive up to Ontario in less than a day.....

BTIZ
November 17th 05, 05:23 AM
Last price I heard for a pair of LS3-17 wings only was about $7-8K on the
west coast.
I would think the shipping one way and insurance alone would be that much.
(Based on costs reported of shipping new gliders to west coast from EU)

BT

"Ray Lovinggood" > wrote in message
...
> BT,
>
> I don't know. That's why I'm trying to find out all
> about the shipping and possible problems with Customs
> and other government agencies I'm sure I've never heard
> of. And, of course, shipping costs.
>
> If it ends up too expensive because of shipping costs,
> then it will get refinished here, I guess.
>
> I just want to know my options.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ray Lovinggood
>
>
> At 05:42 16 November 2005, Btiz wrote:
>>is it cheaper to pay freight to ship overseas and return
>>for refinish
>>than it is to have a 'local' shop in the US do the
>>refinish?
>>
>>BT
>>
>>'Ray Lovinggood' wrote in message
...
>>> Larry,
>>>
>>> If only I could...
>>>
>>> Now, what I should have given the subject line is:
>>>
>>> 'How to ship a glider out of the USA and ship it back
>>> after it has been spiffied up?'
>>>
>>> I am trying to price out the cost for shipping my
>>>LS1-d
>>> to eastern Europe (Poland? Slovenia? ???) for a
>>>refinish
>>> and shipping it back with its new finish (gel coat???
>>> polyurethane???) in a new trailer.
>>>
>>> Anyone in America have useful information?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ray Lovinggood
>>> Carrboro, North Carolina, USA
>>> Where really good thermals might average 5 knots...
>>>
>>>
>>> At 00:06 16 November 2005, 01-- Zero One wrote:
>>>>Don't do it, Ray!!!!! Unless you are going to import
>>>>2 more to replace
>>>>it..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Larry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>'Ray Lovinggood' wrote in message
:
>>>>
>>>>> If anyone has information on how to ship a glider
>>>>>OUT
>>>>> of the USA, please contact me at the e-mail address:
>>>>>
>>>>> vison at intrex dot net
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ray Lovinggood
>>>>> Carrboro, North Carolina
>>>>> USA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Greg Arnold
November 17th 05, 05:36 AM
Are you sure that wasn't the price per wing?



BTIZ wrote:
> Last price I heard for a pair of LS3-17 wings only was about $7-8K on the
> west coast.
> I would think the shipping one way and insurance alone would be that much.
> (Based on costs reported of shipping new gliders to west coast from EU)
>
> BT
>
> "Ray Lovinggood" > wrote in message
> ...
>> BT,
>>
>> I don't know. That's why I'm trying to find out all
>> about the shipping and possible problems with Customs
>> and other government agencies I'm sure I've never heard
>> of. And, of course, shipping costs.
>>
>> If it ends up too expensive because of shipping costs,
>> then it will get refinished here, I guess.
>>
>> I just want to know my options.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ray Lovinggood
>>
>>
>> At 05:42 16 November 2005, Btiz wrote:
>>> is it cheaper to pay freight to ship overseas and return
>>> for refinish
>>> than it is to have a 'local' shop in the US do the
>>> refinish?
>>>
>>> BT
>>>
>>> 'Ray Lovinggood' wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Larry,
>>>>
>>>> If only I could...
>>>>
>>>> Now, what I should have given the subject line is:
>>>>
>>>> 'How to ship a glider out of the USA and ship it back
>>>> after it has been spiffied up?'
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to price out the cost for shipping my
>>>> LS1-d
>>>> to eastern Europe (Poland? Slovenia? ???) for a
>>>> refinish
>>>> and shipping it back with its new finish (gel coat???
>>>> polyurethane???) in a new trailer.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone in America have useful information?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Ray Lovinggood
>>>> Carrboro, North Carolina, USA
>>>> Where really good thermals might average 5 knots...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 00:06 16 November 2005, 01-- Zero One wrote:
>>>>> Don't do it, Ray!!!!! Unless you are going to import
>>>>> 2 more to replace
>>>>> it..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Larry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Ray Lovinggood' wrote in message
>>>>> :
>>>>>
>>>>>> If anyone has information on how to ship a glider
>>>>>> OUT
>>>>>> of the USA, please contact me at the e-mail address:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> vison at intrex dot net
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ray Lovinggood
>>>>>> Carrboro, North Carolina
>>>>>> USA
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

ventus2
November 17th 05, 12:18 PM
Do it yourself - It's character building ;-)

Chris
(who has hung up the torture board)

Marc Ramsey
November 17th 05, 04:00 PM
BTIZ wrote:
> Last price I heard for a pair of LS3-17 wings only was about $7-8K on the
> west coast.

Who have you found that will do it for that price? That's a bargain
compared to the recent quotes I've heard.

> I would think the shipping one way and insurance alone would be that much.
> (Based on costs reported of shipping new gliders to west coast from EU)

It is significantly cheaper to ship to to/from the east coast, and even
then it is likely only cost effective if you can send 2 or 3 gliders in
a container...

Don Johnstone
November 17th 05, 04:32 PM
Can't help with the shipping side but it may be worth
a visit to http://www.refinish.biz/index.php
Cost for a single seater was iro £6k sterling $9k USD,
refinish biz will give you a quote. I have seen several
gliders which have been refinished and the quality
is excellent.

In Europe it's easy, the glider goes on the ferry but
you may want to send more than one if you need a container.

DAJ

At 01:30 16 November 2005, Ray Lovinggood wrote:
>Larry,
>
>If only I could...
>
>Now, what I should have given the subject line is:
>
>'How to ship a glider out of the USA and ship it back
>after it has been spiffied up?'
>
>I am trying to price out the cost for shipping my LS1-d
>to eastern Europe (Poland? Slovenia? ???) for a refinish
>and shipping it back with its new finish (gel coat???
> polyurethane???) in a new trailer.
>
>Anyone in America have useful information?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ray Lovinggood
>Carrboro, North Carolina, USA
>Where really good thermals might average 5 knots...
>
>
>At 00:06 16 November 2005, 01-- Zero One wrote:
>>Don't do it, Ray!!!!! Unless you are going to import
>>2 more to replace
>>it..
>>
>>
>>
>>;-)
>>
>>
>>
>>Larry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>'Ray Lovinggood' wrote in message
:
>>
>>> If anyone has information on how to ship a glider
>>>OUT
>>> of the USA, please contact me at the e-mail address:
>>>
>>> vison at intrex dot net
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ray Lovinggood
>>> Carrboro, North Carolina
>>> USA
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

BTIZ
November 18th 05, 01:56 AM
it was about 3 years ago...
BT
"Greg Arnold" > wrote in message
news:3FUef.144$qw.97@fed1read07...
> Are you sure that wasn't the price per wing?
>
>
>
> BTIZ wrote:
>> Last price I heard for a pair of LS3-17 wings only was about $7-8K on the
>> west coast.
>> I would think the shipping one way and insurance alone would be that
>> much. (Based on costs reported of shipping new gliders to west coast from
>> EU)
>>
>> BT
>>
>> "Ray Lovinggood" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> BT,
>>>
>>> I don't know. That's why I'm trying to find out all
>>> about the shipping and possible problems with Customs
>>> and other government agencies I'm sure I've never heard
>>> of. And, of course, shipping costs.
>>>
>>> If it ends up too expensive because of shipping costs,
>>> then it will get refinished here, I guess.
>>>
>>> I just want to know my options.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ray Lovinggood
>>>
>>>
>>> At 05:42 16 November 2005, Btiz wrote:
>>>> is it cheaper to pay freight to ship overseas and return
>>>> for refinish
>>>> than it is to have a 'local' shop in the US do the
>>>> refinish?
>>>>
>>>> BT
>>>>
>>>> 'Ray Lovinggood' wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Larry,
>>>>>
>>>>> If only I could...
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, what I should have given the subject line is:
>>>>>
>>>>> 'How to ship a glider out of the USA and ship it back
>>>>> after it has been spiffied up?'
>>>>>
>>>>> I am trying to price out the cost for shipping my
>>>>> LS1-d
>>>>> to eastern Europe (Poland? Slovenia? ???) for a
>>>>> refinish
>>>>> and shipping it back with its new finish (gel coat???
>>>>> polyurethane???) in a new trailer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone in America have useful information?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ray Lovinggood
>>>>> Carrboro, North Carolina, USA
>>>>> Where really good thermals might average 5 knots...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At 00:06 16 November 2005, 01-- Zero One wrote:
>>>>>> Don't do it, Ray!!!!! Unless you are going to import
>>>>>> 2 more to replace
>>>>>> it..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Ray Lovinggood' wrote in message
>>>>>> :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If anyone has information on how to ship a glider
>>>>>>> OUT
>>>>>>> of the USA, please contact me at the e-mail address:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> vison at intrex dot net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ray Lovinggood
>>>>>>> Carrboro, North Carolina
>>>>>>> USA
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

BTIZ
November 18th 05, 01:57 AM
it was about 3 years ago.. and I do believe that was the price mentioned..
sanded and painted.. not re gel coated
BT

"Marc Ramsey" > wrote in message
. net...
> BTIZ wrote:
>> Last price I heard for a pair of LS3-17 wings only was about $7-8K on the
>> west coast.
>
> Who have you found that will do it for that price? That's a bargain
> compared to the recent quotes I've heard.
>
>> I would think the shipping one way and insurance alone would be that
>> much. (Based on costs reported of shipping new gliders to west coast from
>> EU)
>
> It is significantly cheaper to ship to to/from the east coast, and even
> then it is likely only cost effective if you can send 2 or 3 gliders in a
> container...
>

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