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mhorowit
November 17th 05, 04:03 PM
I was working with an A&P while he did a pre-purchase for me.
He looked at the inside and remarked that 'red oxide primer is a plus".
Can someone elaborate? what's it better than?- Mike

Rip
November 18th 05, 12:13 AM
mhorowit wrote:
> I was working with an A&P while he did a pre-purchase for me.
> He looked at the inside and remarked that 'red oxide primer is a plus".
> Can someone elaborate? what's it better than?- Mike
>
Red oxide primer on what? On steel, its a plus. It's kind of "pre-rust",
and helps to protect steel parts from further corrosion, to a limited
extent. On aluminum (or magnesium, God forbid)it will promote corrosion
(do a Web search on the galvanic series), and is a definite no-no.

Rip

Michael Horowitz
November 18th 05, 01:19 AM
On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 00:13:25 GMT, Rip
> wrote:

>mhorowit wrote:
>> I was working with an A&P while he did a pre-purchase for me.
>> He looked at the inside and remarked that 'red oxide primer is a plus".
>> Can someone elaborate? what's it better than?- Mike
>>
>Red oxide primer on what? On steel, its a plus. It's kind of "pre-rust",
>and helps to protect steel parts from further corrosion, to a limited
>extent. On aluminum (or magnesium, God forbid)it will promote corrosion
>(do a Web search on the galvanic series), and is a definite no-no.
>
>Rip

Rip - 4130 - Mike

November 18th 05, 12:26 PM
I've seen red oxide on aluminum and wondered wth put it on there.
Zinc chromate is the aircraft builder's and owner's best bet for
aluminum, magnesium, or chromoly.

If I were welding up a fuselage of 4130, I'd powdercoat it. The old
ones I see which are well-preserved are painted with zinc chromate and
then injected with boiled linseed oil.

I agree with this writer:

http://www.paintcenter.org/rj/feb05d.cfm

Rip
November 19th 05, 12:11 AM
Michael Horowitz wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 00:13:25 GMT, Rip
> > wrote:
>
>
>>mhorowit wrote:
>>
>>>I was working with an A&P while he did a pre-purchase for me.
>>>He looked at the inside and remarked that 'red oxide primer is a plus".
>>>Can someone elaborate? what's it better than?- Mike
>>>
>>
>>Red oxide primer on what? On steel, its a plus. It's kind of "pre-rust",
>>and helps to protect steel parts from further corrosion, to a limited
>>extent. On aluminum (or magnesium, God forbid)it will promote corrosion
>>(do a Web search on the galvanic series), and is a definite no-no.
>>
>>Rip
>
>
> Rip - 4130 - Mike
>
4130, no harm, no foul.

Rip

mhorowit
November 27th 05, 09:17 AM
JLS - re: powdercoating. I've seen several comments discouraging use of
powdercoating as it hides cracks.YMMV - Mike

Jez
November 27th 05, 05:23 PM
"mhorowit" > wrote in message
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> JLS - re: powdercoating. I've seen several comments discouraging use of
> powdercoating as it hides cracks.YMMV - Mike
>

Depends. Here in the land of over-regulation, powdercoating isn't allowed
unless it can be proved to crack when the surface of the underlying material
cracks. Having tested several types, I'm pretty much convinced that the
hard polyester powder coats are fine. So are our CAA, who permit them on
aircraft structures, engine mounts etc.

The nylon ones definitely aren't OK though. I'm pretty sure that cheap
nylon podercoat is what's used on domestic garden goods, the sort where rust
bubbles up under the coat after a few years.

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