Re: Ease of attaching and detaching

[Steve Leonard]

Not meaning to bag on them, but I have NEVER been around
an Astir of any kind that went together easily. I
am not a real fan of the 'twist to lock' front and
rear fittings. Someone, please tell me they can go
easy!

Of the rest, they can all be good. Get the seller
to walk you through assembling it and taking it apart.
You will get a real feel for how good the trailer
setup is when you do this one time. Most important
here is YOU do the work, with him telling you what
to do.

Glasflugels are really nice, since the have the bar
you can use to pull the wings together. As with any,
they must be in close alignment first, but you can
then pull them together. MUCH easier than telling
the person at the tip to 'wiggle and push in'. But
I think you will find that most that you are looking
at will just slide right together.

Have fun with whatever you buy!

Steve Leonard

[toad]

Steve Leonard wrote:
> Not meaning to bag on them, but I have NEVER been around
> an Astir of any kind that went together easily. I
> am not a real fan of the 'twist to lock' front and
> rear fittings. Someone, please tell me they can go
> easy!

Mine go real easy, in fact the whole glider rigs real easy.
I have the Std III, which was the lastest model made.

This is the most key advice, below.

> Of the rest, they can all be good. Get the seller
> to walk you through assembling it and taking it apart.
> You will get a real feel for how good the trailer
> setup is when you do this one time. Most important
> here is YOU do the work, with him telling you what
> to do.

My previous owner did this and I have had a great time rigging
ever since.

Have fun.
Todd
G102 Std III, 3S

[Chris Reed]

toad wrote:
> Steve Leonard wrote:
>
>>Not meaning to bag on them, but I have NEVER been around
>>an Astir of any kind that went together easily. I
>>am not a real fan of the 'twist to lock' front and
>>rear fittings. Someone, please tell me they can go
>>easy!
>
And replied:

> Mine go real easy, in fact the whole glider rigs real easy.
> I have the Std III, which was the lastest model made.
>
Toad is quite right, and I have regularly rigged an Astir with just
myself and one helper (though the wings are on the heavy side).

The reason some people have problems is because they wiggle the wing.
This makes it almost certain that it won't slide into place. The key is
looking inside the cockpit to see that the pin on the end of the second
(port) wing is lined up with the hole in the first (starboard) wing. If
it is, all will slide into place (if you've greased all the pins). If
you can't line these up, the starboard wing tip is too high or too low.
A trestle for the starboard wingtip, and a belly dolly which doesn't
allow the fuselage to rotate, are probably the most useful things to have.

[Michael Huber]

From: "Chris Reed" >

> The reason some people have problems is because they wiggle the wing.
> This makes it almost certain that it won't slide into place. The key is
> looking inside the cockpit to see that the pin on the end of the second
> (port) wing is lined up with the hole in the first (starboard) wing. If
> it is, all will slide into place (if you've greased all the pins).

Exactly!

> A trestle for the starboard wingtip, and a belly dolly which doesn't
> allow the fuselage to rotate, are probably the most useful things to have.

A trestele not on the wingtip but in the middle of the wing and a dolly that
allows a very slight wiggle around the fuselage axis works even better for
me.

Michael

[Robin Birch]

In message >, Steve Leonard
> writes
>Not meaning to bag on them, but I have NEVER been around
>an Astir of any kind that went together easily. I
>am not a real fan of the 'twist to lock' front and
>rear fittings. Someone, please tell me they can go
>easy!
>
Yes they can but you need to make sure that there is loads of grease and
that everything is lined up before the last wing is pushed into place.
Works best with two tip trestles.

>Of the rest, they can all be good. Get the seller
>to walk you through assembling it and taking it apart.
> You will get a real feel for how good the trailer
>setup is when you do this one time. Most important
>here is YOU do the work, with him telling you what
>to do.
>
Yes, just went through this with someone looking at my glider with a
view to selling it.
>Glasflugels are really nice, since the have the bar
>you can use to pull the wings together. As with any,
>they must be in close alignment first, but you can
>then pull them together. MUCH easier than telling
>the person at the tip to 'wiggle and push in'. But
>I think you will find that most that you are looking
>at will just slide right together.
>
Having seen most of the gliders on the list I have to agree that their
owners seem to rig and de-rig fairly quickly.

Robin
>Have fun with whatever you buy!
>
>Steve Leonard
>
>
>

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Robin Birch